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Post# 271660   3/13/2014 at 12:51 (3,690 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        

Sometimes you just have to use your Hoover!

Post# 271662 , Reply# 1   3/13/2014 at 12:52 (3,690 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Even got the dusting tools out today

Post# 271663 , Reply# 2   3/13/2014 at 12:56 (3,690 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Not made in China. All metal base and proud real Hoover Name plate on the front. No cheap decals on this Hoover.

Post# 271664 , Reply# 3   3/13/2014 at 12:58 (3,690 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Still having problem with the bags leaking BIG TIME in the bag chamber.
This is after only one use with clean bag


Post# 271665 , Reply# 4   3/13/2014 at 13:01 (3,690 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Here is the bag I am using. It seems to fit the tube tight.
I am just picking the dirt off the rug and throwing it back in the room.
More concerned that it will damage the motor.
Any suggestions?


Post# 271666 , Reply# 5   3/13/2014 at 13:07 (3,690 days old) by jade_angel (Fort Collins, CO)        

Is it possible to MacGyver a newer type of bag in there? I can't recall what the fill tube on a DAM looks like, but would a Riccar bag fit?

Post# 271667 , Reply# 6   3/13/2014 at 13:07 (3,690 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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the bottom plate (which is all metal) still says:

The Hoover Cleaner
Made in North Canton, Ohio

The Hoover makes rug last longer

"It beats,as it sweeps,as it cleans"

It has the old Hoover sound and a FAR cry from the piece of junk I got when I bought the new Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary Upright.


Post# 271669 , Reply# 7   3/13/2014 at 13:15 (3,690 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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I am not sure but the Hoover bag seems to fit tight on the tube. No way I could use this on a weekly basis. I am just blowing dust everywhere and then chasing the dust the next day as it settles on everything.
I don't remember this happening years ago. This machine belonged to my parents.
My main concern is to NOT damage the motor.
Maybe I have gotten too used to the Rainbow, with no dust leaking and this is pretty old machine, but what a good example of proud Hoover products!



Post# 271672 , Reply# 8   3/13/2014 at 13:55 (3,690 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Rob

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makes me wonder just how good that Rainbow really is if the Dial a Matic is getting all that fine dust the Rainbow left behind ?

great condition Vacuum you got there .

Dan :)


Post# 271679 , Reply# 9   3/13/2014 at 14:24 (3,690 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)        

Rob -

I wouldn't worry too much about damaging the motor on that. They're workhorses!  If you are worried about it, bring the DAM to Minneapolis sometime, I'd be happy to rebuild it for you!  Cool

 

I've said this in other threads; there's a great way to "bojack" better filtration into these older machines...

I took a HEPA typy Y bag, and carefully tore the cardboard collar off. Then I took a type D bag, and carefully tore that cardboard collar off. I used some fabric glue and glued the type D collar to the type Y bag. I let it sit under a book or something heavy overnight, to be sure it cures... I am then able to fit the Y bag into the Dial A Matic, and now have HEPA filtration in my Dial A Matic. I've done this with a few other machines as well, and I usually do a few bags at a time if I'm going to expend the effort.

 

Fred


Post# 271683 , Reply# 10   3/13/2014 at 15:07 (3,690 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Fred,
That is a great idea. I will give that a try. Just didn't want to ruin the old girl. I even found mom's tool set for the machine. Great to see the metal agitator and those metal beater bars with soft brushes.

Dan,
Now don't be silly, this is a vintage machine. I have not swept for several days and what use it is to pick it up and redistribute it all over the room again? I have a cocker spaniel and I can be sure dirt gets tracked in the house EVERY day.
My main concern is that I don't damage my vintage machine that is 42 years old and it still works perfect. It was really something when they brought out the Dail A Matic.


Post# 271686 , Reply# 11   3/13/2014 at 15:36 (3,690 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Rob

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lol just sayin ...

;)

Dan


Post# 271695 , Reply# 12   3/13/2014 at 16:03 (3,689 days old) by Oreck_XL (Brooklyn, New York 11211)        

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What you have there is truly a beauty indeed! I've never seen a DAM with a pristine base like that, much less one with powerdrive. The powerdrive models especially tended to get scratched from the herky-jerky action of the transmission. Can I ask what model number that is?

- Hershel


Post# 271697 , Reply# 13   3/13/2014 at 16:47 (3,689 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Hershel,
I had to go look on the machine. It is model #1176. Parents bought it new back in 1972 and it was bought from a Hoover dealer.
As Dan said on his thread, I think people used to take better care of an appliance years ago, not expecting to replace it every year at a discount store with another cheap ,plastic, made in China junky vacuum.
This s ONE heavy sweeper but it runs so smooth.
I have the original sales slip and I think it CAME with the tool set.


Post# 271703 , Reply# 14   3/13/2014 at 17:40 (3,689 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Rob

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I remember my Grandfather using Turtle wax on my Nannys vacuums and all the appliances in their house . It was awesome the way people took care of their belongings that's why all their Vacuums I inherited still look brand new .

Dan


Post# 271713 , Reply# 15   3/13/2014 at 19:17 (3,689 days old) by smow69 (Muskogee Oklahoma)        
bags

i have used eureka style s bags and it fit good the canned ham style

Post# 271749 , Reply# 16   3/13/2014 at 22:39 (3,689 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
BEAUTIFUL vacuum!

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It will last forever. None of mine leaks like that, though.

Post# 271758 , Reply# 17   3/13/2014 at 23:36 (3,689 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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John,
I know you are right and I know for a fact it did NOT used to do this as over the years I would borrow it once in a while and always changed the bag BEFORE returning it and I don't remember that red filter at the bottom ever collecting dirt on top.
I know we have talked about this before. It is just a mystery to me.
I still think I may just have a bad batch of bags.
I thank you guys for the suggestions.


Post# 271789 , Reply# 18   3/14/2014 at 07:43 (3,689 days old) by jade_angel (Fort Collins, CO)        
Bag door cover

Was the bag door cover originally yellow like that, or is it sun-yellowed over time? If it's sun-yellowed, there's something called Retr0Bright that can remove the yellowing and return it to its original color. Google that name, it can be made at home if need be.

Post# 271795 , Reply# 19   3/14/2014 at 08:28 (3,689 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Eric,
That is the exact color the bag door has always been. In fact the machine that was demonstrated at the Hoover dealer's was all one color ( very light beige-brownish) so when they got it home and unboxed the machine they were surprised that it was such a strange color combination.
Now 42 years later, I think the color combination is somewhat more interesting.
The metal nozzle and handle grip have almost a slight pinkish cast to the paint. I have seen this color combination before and some were packed with a darker brown hose and attachments. Interesting note is that the attachment kit came with BOTH the regular sofa tool and a smaller sofa tool with the brush plus all the regular Hoover dusting tools. I always wondered if that was a mistake during the original packing at North Canton.
This is the original colors of the paint and trim. It was always stored in a dark pantry closet. The tools were never used and the attachment bag has turned a little yellow over the years.


Post# 271805 , Reply# 20   3/14/2014 at 09:44 (3,689 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)        

The all beige model is the model 1178 - like the one you described being demonstrated by the Hoover dealer. I also have a model just like you have, Rob. I found it on CraigsList maybe two years ago; it's in line awating a restoration (as so many machines are), but it is in really nice shape. I'll have to check the model number on mine; I am pretty sure it's an 1176 as well. I know that the model 1178 was produced for a few years through the mid 70s; I bet the 1176 is a model that wasn't produced for very long, perhaps a transition model. You certainly don't see nearly as many 1176s as you do 1178s. Perhaps the 1178 had just been introduced when your parents went in for the demo, and the Hoover dealer was trying to get rid of older stock, that's how they ended up with the 1176. I think the 1176 is a much sharper looking machine compared to the all-beige 1178.

Post# 271806 , Reply# 21   3/14/2014 at 10:02 (3,689 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Fred,
I agree with you. After all these years I have grown to like the strange colors.
I got my Spirit out today and just look at the difference in the amount of dirt leaking . Very little from my Hoover Spirit.
I did notice it has a GREEN Hoover bag and the Dail A Matic has a gray Hover bag.


Post# 271807 , Reply# 22   3/14/2014 at 10:04 (3,689 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Here is a shot of the cover. Not much leaking dirt here either.
I can see a little in the corners but to me it seems very good for it's age.


Post# 271808 , Reply# 23   3/14/2014 at 10:08 (3,689 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Not sure why but this has always been one of my favorite canisters and the only Hoover canister I kept when I sold off the vacuums last year.
It is light weight, tools on board, came with floor brush and I like the deluxe wands and power nozzle. I love the color combination as it almost looks retto Hoover from the 40's. It seems to be very good rug cleaner too.


Post# 271811 , Reply# 24   3/14/2014 at 10:21 (3,689 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)        

I found a picture from the day I brought the 1176 home... I got it because the base is nearly flawless. I'll have to dig that out and breathe some new life into it...

Post# 271812 , Reply# 25   3/14/2014 at 10:39 (3,689 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Fred,
Now we have Sister vacs!
Your's is the only other one I have seen with that color combination.
I do remember seeing a Convertible once that had the same brown base, handle, cord, trim with the bag door color used on the on the hood. It was one with the light. Strange, ugly and at the same time very appealing.


Post# 271823 , Reply# 26   3/14/2014 at 11:30 (3,689 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
Well ...

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"I think people used to take better care of an appliance years ago, not expecting to replace it every year at a discount store with another cheap ,plastic, made in China junky vacuum."

They DID.

For two reasons:

1. They paid the equivalent of $926 for the Dial-A-Matic (as opposed to the equivalent of around $600 for the Convertible).

2. There were no cheap, plastic, made-in-China junky vacuums in existence back then. The only options were well-built vacuums starting at the equivalent of $600 (and upwards). If it broke, you took it to the repair shop.


Post# 271824 , Reply# 27   3/14/2014 at 11:35 (3,689 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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Funny, as popular as Dial-A-Matics were (even Samantha Stevens had one!), only once did I ever seen one in someone's house. That was a high-school friend of mine whose mom had one.

It was off-white with a medium blue panel in the front and a tan handle. They kept it in a shallow closet in their rec room. The attachments were in a box in a corner of the closet. I never saw his mom using it.

Every time I'd go over there I'd peek in the closet to look at it. I was amused that it was never put away the same way -- sometimes it was front-in, sometimes back-in, and sometimes sideways!


Post# 271828 , Reply# 28   3/14/2014 at 12:12 (3,689 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
I think ...

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Electrolux, the reason you didn't see very many Dial-A-Matics was because they were so darn expensive. I also didn't see very many of them, and the ones I DID see were in the "rich" households.

Post# 271831 , Reply# 29   3/14/2014 at 12:32 (3,689 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Re: Reply 18

Here is information I located regarding RetrObright at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retro_brigh...


Retr0bright is a public domain chemical mixture used to remove yellowing from ABS plastic computer and electronics cases, including computers that were manufactured by Commodore, Apple, and Amiga in the 1980s and 1990s, and various video game consoles and cartridges.

Yellowing is caused by both bromine and exposure to UV light. Bromine is added[clarification needed] to ABS plastic, acting as a fire retardant.

Retr0bright is hydrogen peroxide, a small amount of an "active oxygen" laundry booster TAED as a catalyst, and a UV lamp. Sunlight can be used instead of a UV lamp.

The optimum mixture and conditions for reversing yellowing of plastics:
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- UV light, either from sunlight or a UV lamp.
- Approximately 1/4 teaspoonful (4.9 ml) per gallon (3.8 l) (1/3072) of Tetraacetylethylenediamine (TAED)-based laundry booster (concentrations of TAED vary).
- Xanthan gum or arrowroot can be added to the mixture, creating an easier-to-apply gel.

NOTE: When making and applying the mixture, users are advised take proper safety precautions and wear protective gloves and goggles. Hydrogen peroxide can cause serious chemical burns and blindness if splashed in the eyes.


BE AWARE: (from retr0bright.wikispaces.com/...)

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Post# 271839 , Reply# 30   3/14/2014 at 12:54 (3,689 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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My friends mom had one, with the attachment bag hanging just like in the pics here. I asked her about it and she said its not a good cleaner, use yours. I thought, hmm.Maybe it had a bad belt they never fixed?

Post# 271890 , Reply# 31   3/14/2014 at 18:47 (3,688 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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What a beautiful Hoover!  Here in the UK we had them but under the name "Convertible" and they are quite rare. 

 

I will definitely have to find one someday!


Post# 272315 , Reply# 32   3/17/2014 at 21:56 (3,685 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Ad from 1971 (eBay):

Post# 272363 , Reply# 33   3/18/2014 at 07:09 (3,685 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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They wouldn't get away with that slogan today - "All it needs is a woman's touch".

Gary


Post# 272364 , Reply# 34   3/18/2014 at 07:35 (3,685 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Kevin,
Thanks for posting the ad. I have NEVER seen any ad with the exact colors of the machine. Of course I wonder WHY in the heck would they have ever thought to put a brownish/orange color with a pinkish beige and think it looked good?

Of course NOW is do like it because it is so strange.

Gary,
"Woman's touch"-have you ever tried to lift that machine? It takes a real man!
That is one beast of a Hoover.


Post# 272370 , Reply# 35   3/18/2014 at 09:39 (3,685 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
Even the non self propelled models

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weigh a ton.  No wonder so many of them have wobbly handle syndrome from people trying to carry them from the handle.


Post# 272386 , Reply# 36   3/18/2014 at 12:02 (3,685 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Rob,

Yes I know they are heavy! I had a power drive model but I found that it really did not groom the carpet that well even after I installed new brush strips so I gave it to another collector.

Gary


Post# 272498 , Reply# 37   3/19/2014 at 08:59 (3,684 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Gary!

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I thought the same thing reading that add!Laughing



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