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Post# 270611 , Reply# 1   3/7/2014 at 18:43 (3,700 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 270612 , Reply# 2   3/7/2014 at 18:45 (3,700 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Yep I'm keeping this one! Will be our upstairs machine. The lady also said she would have the instructions filed away somewhere, will facebook me when she finds it! It does need a spa session though. Will do that when we get moved and settled though. |
Post# 270623 , Reply# 3   3/7/2014 at 20:16 (3,699 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 270646 , Reply# 4   3/7/2014 at 23:34 (3,699 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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Post# 270649 , Reply# 5   3/8/2014 at 01:48 (3,699 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 270656 , Reply# 7   3/8/2014 at 03:37 (3,699 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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They do but I believe they only have recently started to sell them on mass, I think Ryan posted a thread about them. Your certainly can!!
I've not used the X Series ones (but they would be the same) as I don't own one of them yet, but I've just used my first one in my Felix and I can honestly say I prefer them over the paper ones. They seem to last longer and compact the dust and dirt more and you don't notice any drop in performance as they fill. It was like a brick when I removed it! |
Post# 270660 , Reply# 9   3/8/2014 at 05:38 (3,699 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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They are good, I'm impressed with them. Sounds like they work in your garage vac ok.
Thats impressive its working ok then, pulling up dirt from your carpets. Thats I believe the beauty of the X Series it's not over aggressive but still performs well protecting your carpets. Thats what I like about my Felix although manual height adjustment it doesn't feel like it being aggressive but performs well and grooms the carpet. Good idea and as you already have paper ones might as well use them for that. Gosh I bet she does with 3 large dogs, they will come in handy for her then. Thats what is mostly in my Felix bags pet hair from one dog, although this new synthetic bag I used last 5 months 1-2 months more than the paper ones I used to use. |
Post# 270662 , Reply# 10   3/8/2014 at 05:46 (3,699 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 270663 , Reply# 11   3/8/2014 at 05:49 (3,699 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Ah I used to tear a paper numatic bag within minutes sometimes cleaning out the garage, normally with gravel that's been tracked in off the drive. Top tip though, don't clean out a full ashtray then leave it for 2 months, had to leave the garage it stank so much! Very good! |
Post# 270664 , Reply# 12   3/8/2014 at 05:57 (3,699 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 270665 , Reply# 13   3/8/2014 at 06:22 (3,699 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 270677 , Reply# 14   3/8/2014 at 09:32 (3,699 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 270680 , Reply# 15   3/8/2014 at 09:42 (3,699 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Hi Sam,
Fantastic find, well done! Glad you're pleased with it. You can really see it bringing the carpet up in that video. If you really want to get it working like new, you can get replacement brushrolls from Sebo for a very reasonable price. That will improve performance even more. Chris CLICK HERE TO GO TO Turbo500's LINK |
Post# 270688 , Reply# 16   3/8/2014 at 10:52 (3,699 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Its not as good at grooming as a decent junior or turbo power that's for sure... Brushroll seems quite stiff too |
Post# 270689 , Reply# 17   3/8/2014 at 10:53 (3,699 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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The brush roll doesn't look that actual worn, Beko. If the machine has a red light coming up on the panel to show that the brush roll needs replacing, then by all means then replace it.
I would disagree - the brush roll is the same they use on the Felix and I find both the X and Felix groom well - but then I have pure wool short loop carpets and I use SEBO's delicate brush roll which has softer bristles. The stiffer standard one you have should be effective but the auto sensor is probably not allowing it to look as groomed compared to a conventional upright that ploughs through carpets. The X series was originally designed to be gentle on carpets. What you could buy for it are a set of fresh filters - thus you'll be purging the vacuum cleaner and giving it a better quality of air that emerges out of it. That's the beauty of the SEBO - the spares are readily available for the X series - plus the brush roll comes out via a touch of a button - so unlike so many other uprights of the period that require the screws to undo. Check that the filter roll by the bag is clean though - dust on the back of it can be wiped off. |
Post# 270694 , Reply# 18   3/8/2014 at 11:05 (3,699 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 270703 , Reply# 19   3/8/2014 at 11:20 (3,699 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Well, if they were pretty AVERAGE performers, the non-sensor models worldwide wouldn't sell - yet they are found in most industrial areas and your favourite brand HOOVER saw fit to copy the SEBO G1 and turn it into their "9 years in the making" Hoover Insight and Profile uprights, Alex.
Anyway, I found something for you on the Internet. Its about as pointless as the amount of opinions you've added on this thread and the other one. Enjoy! |
Post# 270736 , Reply# 21   3/8/2014 at 14:26 (3,699 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 270759 , Reply# 24   3/8/2014 at 18:08 (3,699 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Actually Ive just thought of something - Hoover used to produce excellent stitched cloth dust bags for the Junior and Senior. Well, Im not sure it was Hoover that produced them, themselves but I had a few rescue Junior uprights that had them and by god it would take months for them to fill up.
Knowing that the Purepower also had a Fabric SMS dust bag, was there ever one made for use with the Turbopower? Or was the offensive pushed towards the Perma Dust box instead on other MOL models (Middle-of-the-line). |
Post# 270760 , Reply# 25   3/8/2014 at 18:10 (3,699 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 270769 , Reply# 27   3/8/2014 at 18:34 (3,699 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 270775 , Reply# 29   3/8/2014 at 19:04 (3,699 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 270899 , Reply# 31   3/9/2014 at 17:09 (3,698 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 270908 , Reply# 33   3/9/2014 at 17:38 (3,698 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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I have turbopower wheel circlips coming if anyone needs one... |
Post# 270916 , Reply# 34   3/9/2014 at 18:20 (3,698 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 270925 , Reply# 36   3/9/2014 at 18:55 (3,698 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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I did know that I could buy a new chassis for the Purepower so was not to miffed. Speaking of that I watched for an entire week and bid at the last few seconds I decided to make my bid at 15 seconds and then it said "please sign in"...My heart was in my mouth so I tried signing in , it said "wrong password try again", I was getting more and more anxious, so I put in my password again and it said "wrong password, please try again" At this point I was screaming at the computer, so I put it in again knowing that this would probably be my final attempt and it said "confirm bid" I was like yessssss, I confirmed it and it said "you are the high bidder", it went back to the listing and the clock had 1 second remaining and then...."you have won this auction" I stood up shaking and out of breath, that was how badly I wanted it.
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Post# 270931 , Reply# 38   3/9/2014 at 19:11 (3,698 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 270933 , Reply# 39   3/9/2014 at 19:13 (3,698 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 274403 , Reply# 41   4/1/2014 at 06:06 (3,675 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Had a play with the X1 yesterday! Sebo Automatic X1 vs Quaker Oats: |
Post# 274413 , Reply# 42   4/1/2014 at 09:54 (3,675 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 274528 , Reply# 43   4/2/2014 at 15:02 (3,674 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Its doing a stunning job. Had a dc07 in for a motor swap and it picked hardly anything up after using the x1 since the carpet was laid! |
Post# 274529 , Reply# 44   4/2/2014 at 15:03 (3,674 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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And no, that's not a cheap OMGALLDYSONSR gag! |
Post# 274586 , Reply# 46   4/3/2014 at 01:55 (3,673 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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I have alot of love for Sebo at the moment! I've always wanted one, having used my sister in laws X4 a few times, and I'm glad I've got one now. Our carpets are wasted on it though tbh, so it will probably get a spa day then sit with the rest of my collection rather than be a daily, but I'm glad I've got it! |
Post# 274590 , Reply# 47   4/3/2014 at 06:13 (3,673 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I know you've always wanted one, so I'm chuffed you got the X1 Automatic. I always try and recommend that model to those who are looking for a cheap priced upright if they have their heart set on the X1.1 or X4. Let's face it, the X1A is an old upright vacuum now on the basis that it is no longer sold, but it is a very popular vacuum that still sees a lot of bids whenever they appear on EBAY.
I've had no regrets since selling off my X4. I'm happy with my older X1 Automatic. The key here is that at the end of the day you're getting a commercial built vacuum cleaner. I think that's the major difference between SEBO and other brands and quite a few people forget that even if there's a "domestic" line compared to commercial. |
Post# 274612 , Reply# 48   4/3/2014 at 12:06 (3,673 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Glad to hear you are liking your SEBO X1. Great video too by the way. One pass pick up too. Was interested to read about the Dyson DC07 being used after the X1 just shows you don't need complicated vacuum cleaners to clean effectively or have brut force suction to clean well. I'm impressed by that at the X1 has a 850 watt motor! Keep saying I will get an X Series model some day!
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Post# 274617 , Reply# 49   4/3/2014 at 12:25 (3,673 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I can't see SEBO replacing the X Series anytime soon it's still popular I would have thought for the main design not to have really changed over the years! They will more likely update it I bet with slight changes!
Interestingly I was watching a video on YouTube on the new BS 36 and 46 Compact (with the new improved cleaning head) and got me thinking about the X Series. I know people including myself have said why don't the X included brush roll switch off and variable suction! Why change a winning tried and tested formula! A new X Series could be a version of the BS Comfort enabling brush roll turn off due to twin motor setup and even 2 versions with manual and auto height adjustment! Then add variable suction like the Felix has! Just a thought but like I said why change a formula that works for them! It still sells all these years later and lasts the user for years in a market which is full of bagless vacuums cheap or expensive! So it still has some appeal simply as it does what it says it does and is easy to use and maintain compared to current offerings! |
Post# 274621 , Reply# 50   4/3/2014 at 13:14 (3,673 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I think that is one reason to why SEBO UK don't have the G2 with manual height adjustment because they know buyers can go with the commercial uprights instead.
The thought has also crossed my mind with the brush roll on/off function. Perhaps whatever comes in above the X series will offer brush roll on/off. But then again SEBO may well be happy with what they have at present. Unlike Miele, it takes SEBO a long time to get something new out that doesn't steal sales from what they have on their books already. |
Post# 274665 , Reply# 51   4/3/2014 at 17:51 (3,673 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Very true. That's probably why they haven't relaxed the X Series yet as they are happy with it as it stands. Suppose that's why the Felix came out like you say so it doesn't steal sales away from what it already has. Plus the Felix was designed to appeal to another market sector was it not? Or what I once read at the younger age group! Unless it's a replacement model like the D was for the C.
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Post# 274666 , Reply# 52   4/3/2014 at 17:59 (3,673 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()   |   | |
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Never thought a Vacuum Cleaner needed balls Steve! #45 |
Post# 274696 , Reply# 53   4/3/2014 at 20:24 (3,673 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Not sure about the younger group, but I can see why it would, or rather to those after style and function - something, despite the colours and soft curves, the X series can't get away with.
Actually, the Felix came about when one of the original designers for Vorwerk ended up working at SEBO and designed a very similar model, obviously in conjunction with Vorwerk's previous design. Thus, the height adjustable handle comes from Vorwerk design as well as interchangeable floor heads and the swivel joint. Thus, the Felix was made for those looking for an upright in a medium home with the X designed for larger homes. Evidently though it shares a similar bag capacity (by some 0.5 litres) to the K cylinder vacuum, the Felix has always had lower power to match the X4. That's excluding the 175 watt small PN or the 200 watt PN. I'd be interested to see if SEBO can lower the motor power of the PN with the EU law coming in. |
Post# 274769 , Reply# 54   4/4/2014 at 16:20 (3,672 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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That's probably one of the reasons I picked the Felix over the X Series for the versatility.
Thanks Sebo_fan for that bit of info on how the Felix came about very interesting to know. It does echo some of the Vorwerk's designs of their vacuums. You can see why people say the Felix is similar to some Vorwerk's vacuums. I did wonder if the Felix bag capacity was similar to the K Series. It will be interesting to see what happens to the Felix for future versions of it and like you say see what SEBO can do with the PN wattage. Wonder if the new EU Law includes the PN motor wattage with the main unit motor wattage? I noticed the Vorwerk VK150 has a 900 watt motor in the main unit but combined with additional equipment it's 1300 watts (which must include the PN which surely isn't 400 watts?). I was quite surprised how very light the new Vorwerk is! Mind you if that new K Series has a 700 watt motor and performs ok they could fit a 700 watt motor and keep the 175 and 200 watt PN. |
Post# 274793 , Reply# 55   4/4/2014 at 19:27 (3,672 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 274848 , Reply# 56   4/5/2014 at 07:23 (3,671 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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They sure are for now! See what the future brings. One thing is for sure quality easy to use vacuums will still emerge from SEBO. The only thing I'm not clear on unless I've mis understood this new EU law is it new vacuums to the market excluding existing ones already on sale. Suppose it means all currently on the market!? I've seen pictures of the D series filter system but not actually touch or seen them in person. I take it the pre motor filter on the D series above the bag uses a new type of material?
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Post# 274853 , Reply# 57   4/5/2014 at 09:19 (3,671 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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