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Just wondering what's so special about this hose...
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Post# 2060   10/5/2006 at 15:23 (4,373 days old) by charles~richard ()        

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Post# 2061 , Reply# 1   10/5/2006 at 16:12 (4,372 days old) by myhooverco ()        

This hose is to a Holiday cylinder cleaner (model #415) made in 1953-54. I think that this design was way more popular in England. Hoover made apprx. 180,000 of these machines, but is was overshadowed by the "new" Connie model 82. It has the woven hose that was used in England. The ends are pure Hoover. I almost bid on it but it went for too much. I would like to find a Holiday cleaner...this is my last Hoover to find from the 1950's!!! Anyone out there in Vacuumland have one they want to sell??????


Post# 2067 , Reply# 2   10/5/2006 at 18:16 (4,372 days old) by charles~richard ()        

I see. (said the -- er, never mind!)

I figured it must be something usual and special given the high bidding on it. It does look like it's brand new. Just hope it's not fossilized in that coiled up shape!

Post# 2087 , Reply# 3   10/5/2006 at 22:44 (4,372 days old) by eluxomarty (Palm Springs)        
I was bidding

I was the highest bidder FOREVER until i was sniped. I wanted it because it looked like it would have fit my Hoover model 41. Needless to say i was so outraged at losing i threw a vase across the room! What did i say about ebay some time back? It brings out the worst in people, me included!

Post# 2088 , Reply# 4   10/5/2006 at 22:47 (4,372 days old) by swingette ()        
i threw a vase across the room...

did you get it on tape, Martin?

Post# 2089 , Reply# 5   10/5/2006 at 22:49 (4,372 days old) by eluxomarty (Palm Springs)        
high bid

as for the high bid i was caught up in the bidding war. My model 41 has been without tools and hose since i bought it at a thrift store. it was also the second time i lost an auction of 41 tools. I hate ebay.

Post# 2090 , Reply# 6   10/5/2006 at 22:55 (4,372 days old) by eluxomarty (Palm Springs)        

the noise startled everyone, what a mess

Post# 2091 , Reply# 7   10/5/2006 at 22:59 (4,372 days old) by swingette ()        

YouTube, Marty, YouTube!

Post# 2092 , Reply# 8   10/5/2006 at 23:01 (4,372 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Broken Vase...

At least you can vacuum up the bits of broken glass...

Post# 2093 , Reply# 9   10/5/2006 at 23:02 (4,372 days old) by charles~richard ()        
Marty, I feel your pain

Post# 2095 , Reply# 10   10/5/2006 at 23:17 (4,372 days old) by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.)        
Vase throwing?

Ohhh Myyy....

Post# 2097 , Reply# 11   10/5/2006 at 23:22 (4,372 days old) by swingette ()        


Post# 2098 , Reply# 12   10/5/2006 at 23:23 (4,372 days old) by eluxomarty (Palm Springs)        


Post# 2116 , Reply# 13   10/6/2006 at 02:24 (4,372 days old) by charles~richard ()        


Post# 2119 , Reply# 14   10/6/2006 at 09:48 (4,372 days old) by kirbykid ()        

God you guys are so funny ! He's right though Ebay can really piss you off... but don't think I ever threw anything over it, I'll have to try that....Hmmmmm

Post# 2130 , Reply# 15   10/6/2006 at 13:35 (4,372 days old) by charles~richard ()        

I guess some of you know of some of my eBay rage attacks but the one that lasted the longest -- because it's still ongoing -- is over a certain person who shall remain nameless whom I have christened "Queen of the eBay Snipers."

Before sniping was really a known thing, you know, before "evvvvverybody" was doing it and all these sniping programs had come out, this person already had it down to an art. And I seemed to be one of her favorite victims. Auction after auction that I had bid on was SNATCHED from my quivering fingertips mere seconds before the auction ended.

The first time it happened I sent a cordial but curious email, "Gee, didn't you see I had bid on that? I thot there was a sort of unwritten code of honor amongst vacuum cleaner collectors who have been chums for a while..."

Well, it happened a 2nd and a 3rd time, after having gotten no reply from the Sniper Queen. My next email was not quite so cordial. After it happened 3 more times in rapid succession, I let loose -- full bore with both guns. Those who have been the unhappy recipients of my ire via email can just imagine... Yes, Maggie DOES have a very bad temper sometimes.

I finally got a very insulting "get over it dearie" sort of reply and that was that. And thus ended a several-year-long friendship between us, and all because of greed and selfishness.

I don't have any problem with someone sniping once in a while for something they really want, and honestly, today, I can see the point in it. Especially with so many people doing it now. If you bid early, your bid is going to increase, a dollar at a time, until you either are outbid or end up paying through the nose. I've been known to snipe a time or to myself.

But what separates the men from the, uh, queens, is those who do it compulsively, excessively, seemingly snatching away every thing that comes along. Especially literature in this one case, and never mind the fact that this person has accumulated so much stuff that she was obliged to rent three silos in her area to store it. She grabs, and grabs, and grabs, even on things that I know for a fact she already has multiple copies of......

And especially because none of this literature will ever see the light of day again. It gets squirreled away (probably into Silo Number Seven by now) and no one ever sees it again. If it was shared, you know, copied, passed on, submitted for Picture of the Day (fat chance of that ever happening), her greed would not be so egregious. But since nothing is ever shared, that just makes her compulsive sniping all the more disheartening.

So the upshot of THAT is, rather than keep my blood pressure in the stratosphere, I simply don't bid on paperwork anymore because I know the likelihood is great that I'm just gonna get sniped, and irritated. A crumpled sweeper brochure is not worth my health and generally happy state of mind.

Actually, my perpetual impoverishment, coupled with a constant need to reduce my inventory, also has caused me to become little more than an eBay window shopper -- drooling over some of the things that come along but letting them pass by with a sad sigh.

(The flip side of the Sniper is the "Territory Marker" -- there are certain people who come trotting over, lift their leg, and leave their mark on auctions the minute they are listed as if to mark their territory and warn other dogs to stay away! This of course has no effect whatsoever on the Sniper Queen, a big nasty poodle who, nose aloft, demurely saunters in and deposits HER mark at the last possible second.)

"And So It Goes."

Post# 2137 , Reply# 16   10/6/2006 at 17:55 (4,371 days old) by convertible68 ()        

Marty, sorry you lost the hose, I know EXACTLY what it's like to lose an auction for something I REALLY need, usually vacuum or washer-related.

The unfortunate truth is that one almost HAS to snipe in order to be a successful bidder. I did it manually before, and now I use AuctionSniper for things I want. I don't normally place a bid on something a few days in advance, because I don't want to drive the price up. The only exception to that is to take away the Buy-It-Now price on an enticing item, and even then, there's a big risk that some idiot is going to come along and drive the price up.

When I see a familiar eBay ID of a fellow member, I don't bid, unless that member has been outbid by someone else near the auction closing. For example, there was a nice Singer upright for sale a while back that you (Marty) were bidding on, and while I would have liked to have had the machine, I wasn't going to bid against you. Then someone from Applianceville came along (who I'm going to keep anonymous, but will say that he's a high-ranking "club psycho" who isn't well-liked) and outbid you. Had I been keeping track of the auction, I would have outbid this person to get the machine. Later on, I saw that the auction had ended and who had bid on it; I was disappointed that you didn't win the machine, and that I didn't have a chance to snipe this person out!

In response to Charles' comment, this is a very controversial topic on Applianceville in regards to members bidding against other members, especially after 2 years ago, a rare 1966 Philco washer/dryer set sold for $5,325 total, just from "in-bidding", so to speak! There are mixed opinions concerning that; for some, it doesn't matter, and others simply won't do it. For me, it depends on who it is I'm bidding against, and what the item is. If I know they already have one, I have no qualms about outbidding them.

Of course one of the other things about eBay that bugs the hell out of me is the market itself; another unfortunate truth is that vintage vacuums are going for much more than they used to. On the auctions I have bid on, the closing price has been more than $40 for used, unrestored cleaners in otherwise decent shape that, 5 years ago, would have gone for $9.99 or so. That, and the fact that I'm out of room both fund-wise and space-wise, is one of the reasons I'm taking a break from eBay for a while. That will probably be short-lived though, ha!

Just my 2 cents.


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