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Post# 263994   1/18/2014 at 19:17 (3,740 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

I know Electrolux manufactured a 2100 series of vacuum cleaners, but I thought there were only three models: Hi-Tech, System 90, and Special Edition. Was there also just a 2100?

Were there different versions of each? Some have white on/off switches and some have blue. Also, some have PN-6Bs and some have PN-7Bs.

Following are a couple photos from eBay listings from an "Electrolux 2100" search:

"2100":

Post# 263995 , Reply# 1   1/18/2014 at 19:18 (3,740 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

"Hi-Tech 2100" (PN-6B):

Post# 263996 , Reply# 2   1/18/2014 at 19:19 (3,740 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

"Hi-Tech 2100" (PN-7B):

Post# 264032 , Reply# 3   1/19/2014 at 05:00 (3,740 days old) by thermokid (Casper, Wyoming)        
Electrolux 2100

 I have the same model 2100 in post #263994 mine is Black and gray. I bought it for my collection because it was in like new condition hardly being used. Great right? well the problem it has is when you turn it on, it immediately turns itself back off( yes it has a new bag installed so that isn't it.. If you lay the machine on it's side it will run for about 5 minutes before it shuts off.. I just don't know what could be wrong with the machine...... Dan

Post# 264034 , Reply# 4   1/19/2014 at 05:59 (3,740 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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There were actually several versions of the 2100. The first one was with the PN5 power nozzle and had the long crevice tool. The second one was with the PN6 power nozzle and had the clip on the exhaust cover for the small crevice tool and dusting brush. They both had light grey switches (the blue one is a replacement).

There was also a third version that came out several years later as a "special" sale machine (In your first picture above) that was black and grey instead of Jadestone and Grey.

The System 90 and Special Edition were also 2100's.

Post# 264079 , Reply# 5   1/19/2014 at 11:51 (3,740 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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I once had a brown/burgundy ish? model like that , my first plastic Lux, it was not good.Maybe my bad luck, but two motors says no. They did have a blue version like that at Sams for a while too, very low price.

Post# 264083 , Reply# 6   1/19/2014 at 12:32 (3,740 days old) by ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        

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I've got a burgundy topped 2100 Special Edition. One of my favorites because I remember them being sold in Service Merchandise.

Post# 264170 , Reply# 7   1/19/2014 at 19:09 (3,739 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
2100

 the 2100 that started out the thread was the newest and latest cleaner that came out maybe 5 years ago. I will look up the specs tomorrow.

Post# 264196 , Reply# 8   1/19/2014 at 22:45 (3,739 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Thanks for responding thermokid, Collector2, Suckolux, ultraLux88, and tig21er.

Tig21er, Looking forward to your follow-up.

Can you explain why there are so many overlapping versions of Luxes...starting around the Diamond J... 1521s, 2100s, Ambassadors, Regencys, Guardians, Legacys...? The history profile on Aerus's website doesn't help that much, since it is incomplete. I'm thinking back to the time that there was a top-tier model, a low-tier model, and an upright. Since then it seems that there have been groups of top-tier, middle-tier, and low-tier models. Is that right? Does it have anything to do with the Canadian market?

Post# 264228 , Reply# 9   1/20/2014 at 11:25 (3,739 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
2100

 the 2100 illustrated that I said came out 5 years ago came out in 2001. Time passes by quickly for me these days and I do make a small error once in awhile but not enough to kill me.

Post# 264233 , Reply# 10   1/20/2014 at 12:06 (3,739 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

I wish we had cool electroluxes like that! They look great, and not that old at all

Post# 264236 , Reply# 11   1/20/2014 at 12:30 (3,739 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

I can help clear up the problem of overlapping models somewhat. Electrolux's don't overlap as much as you think. In 1968 they radically changed the design of the machine with the 1205 model. They pretty much stuck with that basic model for the next 25 years with only incremental changes and cosmetic differences. Each new incremental changed had a different number right on down the line to the 1521. Starting around the middle 1980's they created several lower tier models to complement the higher tier one. All of these were variations on the same basic model. The Epic machines, for example, were basically the same as the 2100 with a tool caddy built on top and the symbols arranged differently. They just put fewer features on them as they went down the list. The Ambassador was a very basic 2100 with no lights, dial, or automatic shut off. The basic 1205 continued on as a metal body until the early 1990's as a different name. Olympia, Diamond Jubilee, Silverado, Ultralux, etc. were the same machine with minor differences. The Regency was an upright model and they followed this general pattern with those too. Incremental differences with a new name and number. Other Lux experts can tell you much more than me I'm sure. Hope this helps clear you up a little.

Post# 264238 , Reply# 12   1/20/2014 at 13:02 (3,739 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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I think I can clear up some of this too. A lot of it deals with free trade and Electrolux being bought out.

To begin with the 2100 was a Canadian model. Up until "Free trade" came in Electrolux in Canada and the USA were operated as pretty much separate entities. Both with their own R & D divisions and factories that developed machines in accordance with the demands of their separate markets. They did, however, also share concepts. The E series machines were developed in Canada in 1982. Starting with the E2000 (which used a slightly modified version of the US PN4 dubbed the PN2000). It was replaced in 1985 by the 2100 with the PN5 and, subsequently in 1987 by the System 90. About this time was when "free trade" came into being. Electrolux closed the Canadian Factories and moved production to the US as a cost cutting measure. (Hence the Canadian style LE taking over from the US special model as the lower line) The S90 was replaced by the US Grand Marquis which proved to be a BIG mistake. The Canadian market HATED it. It was much heavier and more cumbersome than the previous Canadian made machines. Sales plummeted like never before. In a effort to recover their market the Diplomat was brought out and the recovery began. Throughout this time Electrolux went through several changes in hands, each of which resulted in more and more of the facilities being stripped away. This finally culminated in Aeris taking over and the design of these machines has not been changed since(Aside from colour)

Post# 264755 , Reply# 13   1/25/2014 at 18:57 (3,733 days old) by Kevin (Livonia)        

Here are a couple more versions I found--at least the labels are slightly different:

Post# 264756 , Reply# 14   1/25/2014 at 18:58 (3,733 days old) by Kevin (Livonia)        

(photos courtesy of Ebay)

Post# 264757 , Reply# 15   1/25/2014 at 19:02 (3,733 days old) by Kevin (Livonia)        

Some also had a pinstripe in the bumper (like the Diamond Js) and wheel pinstripes:

Post# 264760 , Reply# 16   1/25/2014 at 19:51 (3,733 days old) by Kevin (Livonia)        

I am wondering if the different logos represent retail models and door-to-door models?

It seems to me that the machines that were sold in stores (e.g. Regency series and Special Edition) had the bold "ELECTROLUX" letters without the border while the door-to-door models had the customary logo with the border during that time period.

That would be one reason why there are different labels. I am taking for granted that the machine in the original posting was the only version of the 21st century run which may not be true.

Post# 264841 , Reply# 17   1/26/2014 at 19:14 (3,732 days old) by BrianKirbyClass (Eudora Kansas)        

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Never having used one of these models,,what does the dial on the top of the machine do?

Post# 264842 , Reply# 18   1/26/2014 at 19:58 (3,732 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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The dial is used to regulate when the machine shuts off depending on the type of dirt that is being vacuumed i.e. very course dirt or very fine dirt. Fine dirt will cause the pores of the bag to clog faster, thus cutting off suction and causing the bag full indicator to light and the machine to shut off.

Gary

Post# 264940 , Reply# 19   1/27/2014 at 15:52 (3,731 days old) by Kevin (Livonia)        

I just noticed that I haven't thanked electromatik and Collector2 for their responses to my queries. Many thanks to you both.

Electromatik: Your response did help to clear things in my mind. I understand that there were not all that many styles. My confusion lies in which machines were offered at the same time. For example, if I walked into an Electrolux store in 1990 (or any year since) which of the current models would have been on the show floor? I know now that there is a high tier, middle tier, and low tier option available. When did that change from the former standard and economical choices? Also, which models were sold through retail, and in what years?

Collector2: Your response also helped clarify my uncertainty. I do wonder if the 2100 and the L-E was sold in the U. S. as well as Canada? Are there any other machines that were sold exclusively in the U.S. and exclusively in Canada? If so, that would also explain why there appears to be an abundance of machine names.

Both: What was the incentive for creating so many versions/names of the same model? When I think of the fact that the Model XXX was manufactured for 17 years (1937-1954) I don't understand why Electrolux chose to have so many series/models in the '80s and '90s. Admittedly, I am not familiar with the Aerus line of machines, so that could be a similar situation.

It's too bad that Charles Richard Lester, or someone else, doesn't post a survey of machines from the '80s to the present with all the different versions just as he did with the Model V to the Model 1205 since they, too, are part of the Electrolux "family".



Post# 267718 , Reply# 20   2/14/2014 at 20:09 (3,713 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Does anyone know why the Hi-Tech 2100 is called "hi-tech"? Is it just a name, or is there an engineering detail that sets it apart from the other machines?

Also, do any of the machines actually have "Hi-Tech 2100" on the label or just on the inside of the bag chamber door? The only labels I have seen are the ones in this thread ("Electrolux 2100" and "2100").

Does anyone have a run-down of the different versions--like Charles Richard Lester has done with the earlier machines?

Post# 273155 , Reply# 21   3/23/2014 at 16:34 (3,676 days old) by ronni (USA)        

From Aerus ...

The Hi-tech 2100 was the first model with the plastic body canister. It is also the first model to offer the after-filter and the suction control valve dial design with the information panel that some of our current models still use. Since it was the first model to use this technology, it was branded as a hi-tech unit.


Post# 273281 , Reply# 22   3/24/2014 at 15:07 (3,676 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Kevin:

I am sorry it took so long to write back but I haven't checked this thread in a while... Electrolux didn't use to have many models at one time. As far as I know, there usually was only one unit. They did produce a bare bones model called the T which was not very successful. I forget which model it was sold alongside and what year. Starting in the 1960's they began to offer different features for more money. For example, my mom had a Model R with NO cordwinder, but my grandmother had a Model R WITH a cordwinder. So product differentiation was in motion. The Hospital G before that was a special model with a special filter designed for "health" reasons. Flash forward to 1968 and the 1205. They sold the 1205, albeit with different names and numbers, through the 70's with the Golden J, Super J, Olympia, Diamond J, Silverado, Marquis, Grand Marquis, and Ultralux until about the late 1980's to early 1990's. During this time they also introduced "special" models of the Olympia, Silverado, and perhaps one more. These did not have any features such as shut off, bag light, etc., and no cordwinders. Beginning in 1984 or so they introduced the first plastic bodied machine to judge the public's response. It was the Hi-Tech 2100. It was basically a 1205 with a lexan body and different lights and with a dial on top. They had to convince the public it would hold up like a metal machine. They were planning on phasing out metal body machines and the 2100 was the start. They sold these alongside each other for several years with the Silverado, etc. metals. Along the way, changes to the power nozzle came along at different periods, often appearing on a machine later in it's production. The Marquis, Grand Marquis, and Ultralux were the last metal body canisters. The design of the 2100 continued on with the Diplomat, Epic 6500, Epic 6500SR. At some point they took away the dial, lights, and automatic technology and made it the Ambassador (I, II, III) and it became the low tier model. Shortly after 1990 the metal canisters ended and the Renaissance came out, thus ending the run of the 1205 as the high tier model. The 1205 continued on as a plastic body under different names and with varying degrees of technology as the reborn 2100, reborn Ultralux, Classic, etc. For example, in the late 1980's they sold in the mall near me. They had the Ultralux, Epic 6500SR, Ambassador, and Diplomat at the same time. Some were discontinued he told us. They sold discontinued vacuums until they were gone. If they couldn't get you to buy the Renaissance, they would sell you an Ambassador. They sold a few of these on QVC but I'm not sure which ones. They had a very different upright sold on TV that looked WAY different than any you've ever seen. Bottom line, all metals with increasing amounts of plastic from beginning to 1980's, then no metals made after the last Ultralux. The Renaissance was sold alongside the Ambassador (perhaps different name) and the Epic 6500SR. I'm not sure when the Epic 6500SR was renamed the Legacy but it is one of the few machines to not have been changed much since introduction. Only the power nozzle is differently shaped. The Ren continued until the introduction of the Guardian Ultra. Hope this helps understand the continuity.

Post# 273315 , Reply# 23   3/24/2014 at 20:02 (3,675 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)        

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The Regency 2000 was another version of the 2100. The Epic 6000 SR, 6500 SR etc and Lux Legacy were all built on the 2100 platform.

Post# 273660 , Reply# 24   3/27/2014 at 13:21 (3,673 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
BikerRay,

 you are right the Regency 2000 was based on the body of the 2100. It was sold in the Premium Department Store Line. It used the standard(10.0 Amps)motor. It included the sidekick and had I believe a P/N 6. A two year warranty 244 Airwatts power.
The Diplomat that was sold door to door was a High Performance (11.0 Amps) motor, Sidekick include, Five Year Warranty and 292 Airwatts power and a few bonus extras. Known as the Deluxe Product Line.
Anytime a manufacturer makes a significant change to their line they change the model number and name. Look at the Kirby G-3, Change bag and trim and you have G-4.


Post# 273690 , Reply# 25   3/27/2014 at 16:27 (3,672 days old) by Kevin (Livonia)        

Thanks for your responses, Christopher (#21), Ray (#22), and John (#23).

Christopher -
1) You mentioned the 6500 and 6500 SR--what are the differences between the two models? I thought the 'SR' just meant 'series'.

2) Please post a pic of the "a very different upright sold on TV that looked WAY different than any you've ever seen."

Ray - I still don't get why Electrolux felt the need to make so many different Model 2100s with different names. To me, it would have made more sense to do 2100-A, 2100-B, et cetera.

John - I sent you an email requesting some other info. Let me know if you didn't get it. Otherwise, take your time in responding. I have lots of questions!



Post# 273704 , Reply# 26   3/27/2014 at 17:18 (3,672 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Kevin, when the Epics came out they had the old style wand and power nozzle like a Marquis, etc. Later the SR was equipped with the all plastic snap lock wand system with steerable power nozzle and the power nozzle was changed to the headlight version. I don't have a picture of the Lux model but a vacuum collector has a video up of it. I'll see if I can locate it.

Post# 273713 , Reply# 27   3/27/2014 at 17:52 (3,672 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
"it would have made more sense"

 Not everything after the leveraged buy out that led to the "New Era of Exellence" and later to 'Aerus' made sense!Aerus still has great vacs but do you have as many branches and salesmen in your area as before these changes?!Do as many of your friends and neighbors use Electrolx/Aerus as before!?!.
The plastic body vacs were very good with less weight and the after filter.
Trivia-the first LE had no bag lock out switch.It later reappeared.
Why the High Tech name?In the 80s High Tech became a phrase for a decorating style using industrial/commercial components.Not sure the relation to Elux vacs.

Post# 273721 , Reply# 28   3/27/2014 at 18:17 (3,672 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Another reason for the "Hi-Tech" 2100 name was because it was, in part, a response to Hoover's digital wonder, the Sensotronic.

Post# 273731 , Reply# 29   3/27/2014 at 19:53 (3,672 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)        

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The Epic 6000 SR had the steel wands and the regular plastic body hose. The Epic 6500 SR had the Plastic wands and the Gas pump handle hose.

As to all the different models based on the 2100 platform, you also had the 1205 which morphed into the Golden J, the Super J, etc. all of these used the control valve in the front door of the unit. The 2100 just moved the control valve to the top.

Some of this I think is just like Ford coming out with the Edsel, they were the same model just a little different styling and name change and almost the same price.

The LE (Limited Edition) didn't have a bag switch then later on it did, the motor had a thermostat but I don't think the thermostat was connected to anything.

Another strip down model was the SE (Special Edition) like the Olympia Special edition (model 1453) didn't have a cord winder inside the body and was a shorter unit. It also didn't have the dial on the front door as well like the regular Olympia.

Post# 273737 , Reply# 30   3/27/2014 at 20:37 (3,672 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Kevin here is a link to the Electrolux Ultralux upright that was supposedly sold on TV. This person got it used so who knows where it was bought.






Post# 273749 , Reply# 31   3/27/2014 at 22:00 (3,672 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Biker Ray,

 What do you know about the difference of the 1205, Golden Jubilee and the Super J? Do you Know?
Special Edition came out to replace the Model L. A cordwinder was available as an option. It was also a non automatic, that is the reason for no dial on the front.


Post# 273802 , Reply# 32   3/28/2014 at 11:54 (3,672 days old) by ronni (USA)        

(from Biker Ray: "Another strip down model was the SE (Special Edition) like the Olympia Special edition (model 1453) didn't have a cord winder inside the body and was a shorter unit. It also didn't have the dial on the front door as well like the regular Olympia."

Actually, the Special Edition (sand/burgundy) had two versions--automatic and non-automatic. I know one was Model 2100, but I'm not certain if the other one had the same or different model identifcation.

Following are photos I located on eBay:

Post# 273804 , Reply# 33   3/28/2014 at 11:56 (3,672 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Electrolux Special Edition (for Premium Discount Stores) Non-Automatic version:

Post# 273806 , Reply# 34   3/28/2014 at 12:14 (3,672 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Ronni,

 the Special edition illustrated were not sold in stores but sold at fairs and home shows as a special by sales reps and their branch office. The Special Model was the referenced cleaner earlier. I made the mistake of putting Edition in my wording. I sold both and know where they sold.

Post# 273816 , Reply# 35   3/28/2014 at 14:04 (3,672 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)        

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This is the Olympia Special that I was talking about, this picture came from ebay.
There was also a Silverado version of this, they were both model 1453.

As to the 1205 etc. 1205 and Golden Jubilee (also a 1205 or sometimes a 1210) used the same motor. The Super J, Olympia, Silverado, Marquise etc. used the Super J motor which the armature is about an inch longer than the 1205. If you open up the front of any one of these and take out the four screws you will see the control valve mounted sideways in the front driven by a gear from the control dial. They have used this valve since the later model 60's ( back then the knob just stuck out the bottom ( in the case of the 60 and 61) or the front ( in the case of the Automatic E, Automatic F or model G)

Post# 273818 , Reply# 36   3/28/2014 at 14:09 (3,672 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)        

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Oops, I forgot to mention the Special Edition you're showing is a plastic body with the model number 1623 on the inside of the door.

Oh and when I said to take out the 4 screws it should have been from the four corners of the front door to get the plastic cover off.

Post# 273820 , Reply# 37   3/28/2014 at 14:24 (3,672 days old) by ronni (USA)        

BikerRay,

So was the automatic Special Edition a Model 2100 and the non-automatic Special Edition a Model 1623?

Regarding the Model 1453s, there were actually for color versions: brown/ivory (like the Olympia One/1401) like you pictured above, two-toned gray (like the Silverado/1505), sand/jade (like the Diamond Jubilee/1521), and sand/taupe (like the Marquise/1521).



Here are photos of the last two. First, the Diamond J-version (I wonder if the cover has been replaced, or if it has just discolored?) Interestingly, the side bumpers are totally jade-colored, while the Diamond J's were sand with a pin-stripe of jade in the centers:

Post# 273821 , Reply# 38   3/28/2014 at 14:25 (3,672 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Marquise version of the 1453 (had a short run and was replaced by the sand/taupe version of the Model L-E/1623):

Post# 273824 , Reply# 39   3/28/2014 at 14:32 (3,672 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Thanks for the information, John. I had taken for granted that the Special Editions replaced the Regency Series at the premium discount stores. I appreciate the correction.

I am curious to know why they went with different models for door-to-door, fair shows, tv, etc. Was it simply easier for record keeping; was it to differentiate the mechanics; and/or was it to mark the difference in prices?

Post# 273835 , Reply# 40   3/28/2014 at 15:31 (3,672 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Ronni,

 To know a companies mind is hard. Making money is good. When you go to a fair, you go to get leads, it is also nice to sell a cleaner as well. When the Special Edition came out the cleaner was one that was no longer produced due to more powerful motors and certain feature changes in the door to door model. At a fair or home show everybody has a fair or show special. Why not Electrolux. Back then we asked is there any way to have a special. They listened. If you were at the fair and was wanting an Electrolux and got a good deal you might buy then. You always had the better machine to show but if it was buy now and save many did. That is not say it isn't done today but we are talking history right now.

Post# 273838 , Reply# 41   3/28/2014 at 15:43 (3,672 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Just for history information,

 Electrolux and now Aerus don't change models on a whim. If there is something significant that will help the cleaners and be better than it's predecessor a model number and name will change as well. This is what I have witnessed thru the years. The Model G was Aquamarine for I believe 5 years and Tan for the remaining 3 years. The Significant change was the motor. The 1205 was all new from A-Z when Consolidated Foods bought Electrolux in 1968.

Post# 273846 , Reply# 42   3/28/2014 at 16:47 (3,671 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Electrolux

 Much good information on also good vacs.
To clarify the motor info the the Super J,Olympia & Silverado had the same motor with continuing improvements.Then the Diamond Jubilee,the last Silverados and later metal body deluxe tanks had the new motor that required much continuing improvement.
The Special in reply 37 has front from earlier model.
"don't change on a whim" is very true as once a factory has equipment or molds for certain size and shape parts a change is a big production.Also consider that if you make say 50,000 new shape and color vacs you will need 100,000 rear wheels,50,000 top trims,50,000 left bumpers,50,000 right bumpers and on & on & on.
Electrolux always had vacs that were easier to interchange bags,hoses,atts and many other parts.

Post# 273859 , Reply# 43   3/28/2014 at 17:36 (3,671 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Thanks for all the responses, Christopher, Jimmy, Ray, John, and Ronni. This thread is getting more interesting and informative each time!

Our McDonald's has a Lenten Filet-o-Fish special on Fridays ($1.29 each), so I'm getting ready to go there and am short on time. So I'm not going to respond to each comment, but I do appreciate all of them along with the vid Christopher posted. I did view that and found it interesting. I don't know if he's a Vacuumlander or a VCCC member, but he does a nice job and seems like he knows his vacuum cleaners.

Ray mentioned the Regency Series, so I did some digging and found the following pics on eBay. It seems there were four canisters and one upright in the series:

Regency Series 1000 (Model 1623) Economy:



Post# 273861 , Reply# 44   3/28/2014 at 17:38 (3,671 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Regency Series 1500 (Model 1515)--Automatic:

Post# 273862 , Reply# 45   3/28/2014 at 17:39 (3,671 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Regency Series 2000 (Model not known)--Automatic:

Post# 273863 , Reply# 46   3/28/2014 at 17:40 (3,671 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Regency Series 3500 (Model not known)--Automatic:

Post# 273864 , Reply# 47   3/28/2014 at 17:41 (3,671 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Regency Series Upright (no series #; Model not known):

Post# 273866 , Reply# 48   3/28/2014 at 17:42 (3,671 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Just noticed that I goofed in reply #46 (Regency Series 3500). This appears to be an economy model instead of an automatic.

Post# 273867 , Reply# 49   3/28/2014 at 17:45 (3,671 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

One more thing ... thanks, Jimmy for your replies. Somehow I overlooked you in reply #43.

Time for some Filet-O-Fish sandwiches!

Post# 273880 , Reply# 50   3/28/2014 at 18:26 (3,671 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
In the

 reply #45 that is Regency Series 2000 Automatic came with sidekick, p/n 6 ,a standard (10.0 Amps) motor,standard floor tool,short crevice tool,combo tool(dusting,upholstery),
244 Airwatts power, and 2 year warranty.
Reply #46
Series 1000 Non Automatic no Sidekick, Standard (10.0 Amps) Motor,2 Year Warranty, and 244 Airwatts power.Short crevice tool,standard floor tool , combo tool ( upholstery/Dusting brush)
Reply # 47 There was no model number , Standard (8.5 Amps) motor,140 airwatts power, 2 Year Warranty, Accessories kit and caddy, 30 foot cord.
The door to door models were:
Ultralux: HP(11.0 Amps) motor, 292 Airwatts Power, Metal body, Sidekick, Best floortool, long crevice tool, Combo tool, 5 years warranty,P/N6
Diplomat HP (11.0 Amps) motor Hi impact plastic body, Sidekick ,Long crevice tool,Better Floor tool, Combo tool, five year warranty P/N 6
Genesis Upright HP(9.5 Amps) motor ,154 Airwatts power, Sidekick, Accessories kit, 35 foot cord, 5 years warranty

Post# 273882 , Reply# 51   3/28/2014 at 18:31 (3,671 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)        

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From what I've seen -

Regency model 2100 year 1988
Regency 1000 model 1623 year 1989 -
Regency 1500 model 2100 year 1991 -
Regency 2000 model 2100 year 1989 -
Regency upright model 1572E year 1989

The first Regency upright the cord plugged into the body then in 1991 the cord was in the handle

Is that Fillet-O-fish glutin free?

Post# 273891 , Reply# 52   3/28/2014 at 19:15 (3,671 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Sorry

Regency series came out in 1990.The Regency was referred to as Premium Department Store Line.

Post# 273893 , Reply# 53   3/28/2014 at 19:51 (3,671 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Thanks for the additional information, John and Ray.

I think I goofed on the 3500 Series, though. First, I doubt that Electrolux would have had another 3500 Series along with the Epic. Second, I tried an online search for it and found nothing except the Epic. So, either I mislabeled the pic, or an eBay seller had mislabeled it. Anyway, sorry for the inaccuracy.

John, what you mentioned about the Regency Series in #50 fits regarding the Special Edition, and that's why it only had the two canister versions (minus the door-to-door version). Please post the detailed information on them like you did the Regency Series if you have it available.

Ray, I'm wondering where you got your model information, as my search indicated that the Regency 1500 Series was a Model 1515. The next two pics are of the same machine--a Regency Series 1500--a current eBay listing.

Also, I did an online search for McDonald's Gluten-Free Menu and found this:

celiac-disease.com/mcdonalds-glut...

I also learned that the Filet-O-Fish was introduced in 1962, was developed by a franchise owner whose store was in a predominately Roman Catholic neighborhood and wanted to offer his customers during Lent (the time that many Roman Catholics do not eat meat on Fridays), is made mostly of pollock, was the first non-hamburger sandwich on the menu, and was temporarily replaced by the Fish Filet Deluxe 1996 to 1998 but was brought back by popular request. Can you tell I like trivia? haha

Regency Series 1500--top and side view:

Post# 273894 , Reply# 54   3/28/2014 at 19:52 (3,671 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Regency Series 1500 inside cover showing model id:

Post# 273902 , Reply# 55   3/28/2014 at 20:23 (3,671 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Here is the Special Edition Line up. 2101 Floor polisher

 , Canister and Upright.

Post# 273904 , Reply# 56   3/28/2014 at 20:27 (3,671 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Here is some more of the book

 on the Special

Post# 273906 , Reply# 57   3/28/2014 at 20:31 (3,671 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Awesome, John. Thanks for posting. I've often thought it would be cool to have all the machines in a set.

Post# 273907 , Reply# 58   3/28/2014 at 20:32 (3,671 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
And

some more. Specs are 10.0 Amps ,200 Air watts power. No sidekick. Upright was 8.5 Amps and 140 Airwatts power. Sold in mid 80 to late 80's. Haven't found my paperwork to be accurate.

Post# 273917 , Reply# 59   3/28/2014 at 22:20 (3,671 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)        

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I got the information from hunting through the Electrolux Dealer website looking at all the different service manuals. Also I put the information in a spreadsheet as different models came in I would write down model # and name of the unit. One of the service manuals lists the Regency series as starting in 1988 or 1989.

BTW I have never seen a Regency 3500.

I have yet to see a fish with glutin, it's like Jay Leno says "I never knew how tastey glutin was until I had glutin free"

Post# 273943 , Reply# 60   3/29/2014 at 08:23 (3,671 days old) by kirbyguy (Columbia, MO)        
Switch problems w/my 2100 models

 I have a couple of the 2100 series lux's in my collection great machines fantastic suction and actually very quiet running for as powerful as they are. However, I keep having issues with either the on/off switch's jambing or breaking and these particular model machines are not fun to take apart to do repairs on.

Whereas my older metal tank Lux's (Jubilee's etc) with the rocker type on/off switch I've never had any problems with.

Post# 273963 , Reply# 61   3/29/2014 at 12:04 (3,671 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Ray,

You should try to post your spreadsheet on here sometime. Sounds like you have a pretty complete list.

Regarding the Model 1572E, a quick search (not in-depth) revealed that the upright Regency Series, Special Edition, and Discovery Advantage had that model id. There may be more.

Post# 273965 , Reply# 62   3/29/2014 at 12:28 (3,671 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Kevin,

 the Discovery Advantage also is Model 8453. When I would sell a machine that is the Model # I would put down.

Post# 273968 , Reply# 63   3/29/2014 at 13:03 (3,671 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Thanks, John. I'll make a note that it had two model ids. Any idea what the differences were?

Post# 273971 , Reply# 64   3/29/2014 at 13:46 (3,671 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
The

way the model numbers that I have and have seen helps the company and sales rep determine when the cleaner was sold, what the price was, what was on the cleaner originally. If the cleaner motor was a new style and performance , the body style could be the same and model number could change. An example, The book for the Discovery Advantage upright says Model 1572 E , well I have the same Discovery Advantage Model 8453 and is a Direct Ship machine meaning you bought the cleaner and it would come off the line at the factory. You couldn't get this one from the dealer. At the time it was a drop down model. The time period was Oct. 1992.Specs were the same as the Regency Upright which had a Model Number 0012.

Post# 274029 , Reply# 65   3/29/2014 at 17:42 (3,670 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
some

 papers on lux models, 2100 year 2000

Post# 274030 , Reply# 66   3/29/2014 at 17:44 (3,670 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
The

specs

Post# 274032 , Reply# 67   3/29/2014 at 17:50 (3,670 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Here is

 another

Post# 274033 , Reply# 68   3/29/2014 at 17:52 (3,670 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
2500

 spec and info

Post# 274036 , Reply# 69   3/29/2014 at 17:56 (3,670 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
And now

 the 3500 SR. 2500 was drop down model.

Post# 274038 , Reply# 70   3/29/2014 at 17:58 (3,670 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
and

specs.

Post# 274040 , Reply# 71   3/29/2014 at 18:01 (3,670 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Last

 but not least the 1572E Discovery Advantage. What model #?

Post# 274041 , Reply# 72   3/29/2014 at 18:03 (3,670 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
If

 you want more maybe I can help. I don't always keep machines but info yes.


Post# 274234 , Reply# 73   3/30/2014 at 18:38 (3,669 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

John,

Thanks for posting the flyers. Very interesting! Yes, please keep posting--and include years of production for each machine and any model ids you have. I'm still not sure I understand about the different model ids--like the 0219 for the Discovery Advantage. Usually when I type a model id in a search engine I can find matching machines. But the ones you've mentioned don't produce any results.

I also wanted to ask you if there is any significance to the crown logo that was on the Diplomats and Ambassadors (that had series ids such as LX and III in them)? Were they like a "crown" or "royal" series?

In addition, were there other special models that sold at fairs, etc. besides the Special Editions?

The Epic 2500 SR must not have had a long run. I haven't seen many online anyway--including eBay. Didn't know that they had drop-down upright models (sounds funny together haha). What were the other drop-down models/names?

Post# 274237 , Reply# 74   3/30/2014 at 18:55 (3,669 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Both

the Epic 3500 and Epic 2500 came out in 1993-1994.

Post# 274251 , Reply# 75   3/30/2014 at 19:47 (3,669 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Epic Series 6000 SR canister

 Model Code 2039 came out October 1992 and replaced the Diplomat LX.
The Epic Series 3000 SR Upright Model code 2041 came out and replaced the Genesis LXe Model code 1541
The Ultralux Classic Model code 2038 replaced the Ultralux LX Model code 1038
In 1993 the Epic 3500 G Model code 1041 replaced the 3000.
The Epic 2500 SR Model code 0041 came out in 1994-I know at least Oct 1996.


Post# 274252 , Reply# 76   3/30/2014 at 19:56 (3,669 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Epic

 3500 and Epic 2500 were still sold up to October 1998.Oyster color.

Post# 274253 , Reply# 77   3/30/2014 at 20:44 (3,669 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

As always, John, thanks! You're helping me put together a big Aerus/Electrolux "jigsaw puzzle".

Post# 274269 , Reply# 78   3/30/2014 at 21:49 (3,669 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)        

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Kevin

The model code is different then the model number that is on the machine.

Example my 2004 Aerus Lux Classic

Aerus Classic canister model code 546 the number in the machine C151D (if it's 2004 - 2008) C151G (2009 on)

So if your typing 0219 for the Discovery Advantage the machine would have the number 1572E the person listing it wouldn't know that it was model code 0219



Post# 274272 , Reply# 79   3/30/2014 at 21:58 (3,669 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)        

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As to Epic 2500 and 3500

in 1994 the Epic 2500 was model 1770 then it became model U112A, U112B then later U112C
in 1993 the Epic 3500SR was model 1719 then it became model U110A, U110B then later U110P

Post# 274273 , Reply# 80   3/30/2014 at 22:01 (3,669 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Oh, that makes sense, Ray. Thanks for the clarification.



Post# 274275 , Reply# 81   3/30/2014 at 22:07 (3,669 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Kevin,

 If you read what I said earlier on I was giving you the model #s I got at Electrolux. They tell me when it was sold, how much and what came with it. When some one tells me they paid a certain amount I have the model code tell me that info.

Post# 274276 , Reply# 82   3/30/2014 at 22:09 (3,669 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
The

 Discovery Advantage Model # 0219 (Electrolux ) that was on the paper shown was priced at $449.00


Post# 274279 , Reply# 83   3/30/2014 at 22:18 (3,669 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)        

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The sales sheet

It gives you the description (model name), model code number, Price, trade in, and commission (%)

Post# 274281 , Reply# 84   3/30/2014 at 22:21 (3,669 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Got it, John. Thanks.

Post# 274282 , Reply# 85   3/30/2014 at 22:21 (3,669 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
BikerRay

Are you selling?

Post# 274283 , Reply# 86   3/30/2014 at 22:24 (3,669 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)        

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Oh no one would buy me :)

Post# 276431 , Reply# 87   4/15/2014 at 23:49 (3,653 days old) by DJub85 (Virginia)        

Has anyone ever discussed the similarities between the US Electrolux 2100 series (1984-present) and the Canadian Electrolux AP series (1974-1982)?

At first glance, the Canadian AP series looks a lot like the American 1205 series. But the AP series from Canada is plastic, not metal like the 1205. Then you start to notice that the AP units have a hose latch button on the canister, not on the hose. Then you notice that the control valve is on the top of the unit rather than on the front. And the cord hole is square, like the 2100, not round like the 1205. Then, if you look hard enough online, you can see that the AP units have an after-filter under the rear cover. And if you see pictures online, the bottom on the AP canister--including the front wheel and pontoon gliders--looks exactly like the 2100 series.

For the record, I've seen where Canada started selling the 2100 body in 1982, TWO years before the US, calling it the E-2000. Seeing as the AP series lasted until 1982, I'd say this is pretty damning evidence that the 2100 and AP canisters are one in the same.

Was the Canada 1974 AP series actually the predecessor to the 1984 2100? Maybe the 2100 was just a "face lift" of the Canadian model. If so, that means Electrolux has been making the same plastic body canister for 40 years. I'm not complaining though. I hope they never stop making the 2100 style bodies. I just picked up a 90th Anniversary Lux Legacy, and I'm loving it.

Pics of the AP:

www.automaticwasher.info/TD/VLJPE...





Post# 276437 , Reply# 88   4/16/2014 at 01:45 (3,653 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

I'm not that familiar with the AP series, so I will yield to Doug Smith or someone else. You do make some good points comparing it to the Hi-Tech 2100s. To me, though, the APs are a cross between the 1205s and its successors (1968-1993) and the Hi-Tech 2100s (which have had several iterations and are currently known as the Lux Classic machines). As for the year, I thought the 2100s and L-Es made their USA debut in 1985.

I do think that the Canadian AP series has more flair than their USA counterparts. In fact, the AP end cap trim reminds me of the fishtail Coke/Coca-Cola logo and the chevron image.

Post# 276460 , Reply# 89   4/16/2014 at 08:20 (3,653 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)        

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If I remember correctly the early Hi Tech 2100's were listed as being Canadian. I just looked at the inside of the door and it has "Vacuum Cleaner Hi-Tech 2100 Manufactured in Canada by Electrolux Corporation"

Post# 276664 , Reply# 90   4/17/2014 at 12:14 (3,652 days old) by DJub85 (Virginia)        

From what I found online, the E-2000 (the first vacuum model manufactured in the style of the American 2100) started out life in Canada in 1982 and was first marketed the same year that the AP series was discontinued--which is coincidental since their main bodies have many similarities. Then the free trade agreement caused Electrolux to close its Canadian plant, so production of the E-2000 shifted to America, where it was renamed the 2100 for our market (and Canada, too).

For reference, I found this pic online. The E-2000 is on the right--it came in a brown color combination that we never got in the US prior to being renamed the 2100.

Having never owned an AP, I can't say for sure, but the bodies of that series have way too much in common with the bodies of the modern day Lux Legacy/Classic. I'd be shocked if you couldn't disassemble an AP and reassemble it with Classic/2100 parts.

I think the AP series started out life in Canada as a plastic, light-weight alternative to our American 1205 and its successors. That's probably why they look so much alike. Then, because they were so heavily stylized in 70s looks, they were redesigned in '82 and modernized to become the E-2000/2100/Legacy/Classic etc. that we still have today. I'd love for someone from Canada to chime in. Apparently the AP series was rather common there, and I'm sure someone from Canada would know how similar they and the 2100s really were on the inside (under the front/rear/top covers).

Post# 278949 , Reply# 91   5/1/2014 at 17:13 (3,637 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Regency Series Upright Accessory Kit Box:

Post# 278951 , Reply# 92   5/1/2014 at 17:14 (3,637 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Regency Series Upright Accessory Kit:

Post# 278969 , Reply# 93   5/1/2014 at 18:47 (3,637 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Electrolux attachment box

 Nice box above in reply 91 that I don't recall seeing but many of theses were for various dept/catalog stores.Reply 92 shows what seems to be Eureka upholstery and crevice.The original Elux crevice would have been the short one first seen on DJ as the longer with not fit tightly on plastic hose end.

Post# 278971 , Reply# 94   5/1/2014 at 19:29 (3,637 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Thanks, Jimmy. I thought the black attachments were from another cleaner.

Post# 308354 , Reply# 95   12/9/2014 at 14:58 (3,416 days old) by ronni (USA)        
Re: Reply #90

 While I'm not a Canadian I'd like to offer my views on your observations.

I think that all the U. S. and Canadian squared-edge canisters look similar--both metal and plastic. However, they are even similar in appearance to their rounded-edge predecessors. Indeed, succeeding models of cleaners are often revisions and/or additions to their predecessors. So, if the claim that the E-2000 is essentially an AP series machine is true, then the claim that it is essentially an 80 series machine is also true--simply based on similar appearances.

However, I think it is more accurate to say that the E-2000, with its illuminated operations indicators, on/off switch, cord winder, recessed handle grip, wheels, et cetera (like the System 90, Hi-Tech 2100, Diplomat, and so on) are more closely related and therefore mark a distinction of the newer technology of the '80s versus those of previous decades.

As far as the internal parts go some may indeed be similar, but it is unlikely that most are interchangeable. Take, for instance, that the U. S. Model 1205 and the U. S. Model 1505--which look very similar and were only manufactured a decade apart--have different motors with different motor mounts; albeit some of their body parts--like the bag cages and the on/off switches--are interchangeable.

In conclusion, I would say that the Canadian Model E-2000 ushered in a new generation of Electrolux (Aerus) canisters that began in 1982 (rather than, say, 1957 or 1973), and that its basic version, the Model E-Special, continues on in the style of the Lux Classic.


Here is a photo of the Model ESpecial (1982-1985) from Doug Smith's vacuum cleaner collection website:

smithcollection.altervista.org/in...


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