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Post# 2039   10/5/2006 at 09:03 (4,991 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        

Dc16- Somewhere round 99 @ launch


Post# 2040 , Reply# 1   10/5/2006 at 09:05 (4,991 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
And the Dc18....

Approx 29


Post# 2063 , Reply# 2   10/5/2006 at 17:43 (4,991 days old) by converto-skip ()        

A friend of mine has a Dyson DC14 Upright it is very used but works fine. My question is What would be the most it would go for on ebay? He wants me to sell it for him but I think He is expecting to much. He said it sells new for over 800.00 and wants at least half of that, which would be 400.00 and I doubt it would get that much off ebay.Seamus I'm posting a pic of it so You can see and Please let me know what You think
Thanks Skip...

Post# 2071 , Reply# 3   10/5/2006 at 19:49 (4,991 days old) by cirtcele ()        
Hygenic Bin Emptying

Am I the only one who finds that amusing? I've got allergies, and the only way I can "empty" a vacuum is to seal the paper bag with tape as soon as I take it out. I get other people to empty bagless machines if I have to use them
Stunning handheld vac, though.

Post# 2078 , Reply# 4   10/5/2006 at 21:36 (4,991 days old) by compactc9 ()        

Miele bags seal themselves closed as you pull them out of the vacuum, so no dust comes out. Many others have either a plug that you can snap in, or a sticky flap that will cover the opening. I agree, bagless vacuums tend to annoy me. But of all the bagless, Dysons are the most hygenic and easy to empty.

Post# 2123 , Reply# 5   10/6/2006 at 10:40 (4,990 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        

Hey :
Obviously im not too sure on US prices but the closest model we have to that(the turbo tool is smaller) retails approx 250($450 odd)
Either Dyson are MUCH more expensive over there or he kinda paid over the odds :(
I would have thought he would be VERY lucky to get anywhere close to what hes expecting, but you can only try....

Post# 2125 , Reply# 6   10/6/2006 at 11:12 (4,990 days old) by ahzeks ()        
Dysons sell from $399 to...

...$599 new here in the U.S. A quick check of the U.S. Dyson site shows that the model above (CD-14 Full Access) sells for $529 new.


Post# 2132 , Reply# 7   10/6/2006 at 14:48 (4,990 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)        

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I'm very curious about the dc18. I really wanna examine the nozzle and brushroll. They have easily the best bagless design (with its fabulous cyclones and all) but below the waist the vacuums a mess. My fingers are crossed that this one can deep clean wonderfully.

Post# 2135 , Reply# 8   10/6/2006 at 17:43 (4,990 days old) by converto-skip ()        
Seamus and Mike

Thanks so much For You'll's input, I think I will tell Anthony that he will be lucky enough to get at least 100.00 for it. It really works well been has really been well used as ont e side of it are white scrapes on it. He said if It were cleaned up it should get what he wants. He thinking I'm going to clean it but I'm not
Thanks Again Skip...

Post# 2168 , Reply# 9   10/7/2006 at 13:23 (4,989 days old) by dysonman ()        

I don't understand why ANYONE would want to sell their Dyson. I have never had anyone trade in a Dyson, but would LOVE it, then I could sell someone a used one for less than brand new price. People all the time ask me if I ever get used ones, and I always say NO since I don't. You can't get better than a Dyson, so why would anyone want to go back to the filthy bag? Don't see it happening. However, if he does want $100 for it, I'll be first to give it to him. I'd clean it up and sell it to a customer for $400, with a warranty.

Post# 2171 , Reply# 10   10/7/2006 at 13:31 (4,989 days old) by dysonman ()        

We've never had anyone trade in or sell a Dyson. It would be wonderful if they did, since so MANY people ask me if we have used ones (Dysons)
I'm not sure if anyone who owns a Dyson would ever be happy with bags again. Certainly not with having to buy them, along with filters and belts.
We sell new Miele's and Sebo's as well as Dysons. While I can and do sell the bag vacuums, it seems like such a struggle to do so. The Dysons just walk out of the store by themselves. The word of mouth advertising is excellent
If you friend wants to sell his machine, i'd be first in line to buy it for $100.

Post# 2174 , Reply# 11   10/7/2006 at 13:42 (4,989 days old) by dysonman ()        
New Dyson models

There are three new Dysons for America due out in two weeks. One if the hand held DC16 (I'll be showing it off at the October 13th Mini Meet in chicago). The other is the DC17 Absolute, a new upright just for America. The third is launching in January, which is a new canister Dyson with electric power nozzle. The "slim" is for Europe, and will eventually make its way here to compete with Oreck. The DC17 was designed specifically for American thick carpets.

Post# 2186 , Reply# 12   10/7/2006 at 21:33 (4,989 days old) by myhooverco ()        

Yuck...I will keep my deep cleaning bagged Hoover

Post# 2207 , Reply# 13   10/8/2006 at 01:29 (4,989 days old) by swingette ()        

assuming the Dyson is a superior design, why hasnt it expanded into the commercial market? the bagless feature seems like a natural for a commercial cleaner, no? as for sales, the Oreck cleaners sell quite well also. i wonder how a Dyson would handle the volumes of fine powder and imbedded grit that cleaners like the Sanitaire and Hoover Convertible manage to collect from heavy carpets?

Post# 2208 , Reply# 14   10/8/2006 at 02:35 (4,988 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        

Amen to that- I wouldnt have one if it was given to me lol!

Post# 2209 , Reply# 15   10/8/2006 at 06:42 (4,988 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I will keep my Bagged Kirbys and Royals-and I got a Dyson "yellow-all floors"model from a Kirby dealer-It was traded towards a Diamond G-A VASTLY better machine!!I thought at one time Dyson had a commercial machine-remember seeing it on their website.It didn't have any attachments-and had a 3 wire grounded cord to meet OSHA and ANSI safety standards.There is a cleaning service here that uses Dysons-and they come in regularly to the Vac Hospital or Greenville Vac and sew to get their Belt and clutch assemblies replaced.Most of the commercial outfits here use Sanitaires.The Sanitaire has a better brushroll.Would like to see the new Dysons-though.

Post# 2213 , Reply# 16   10/8/2006 at 08:04 (4,988 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
Dyson Commercial

Dyson do make commercial versions of their DC04, called Dyson Constant Max...see the link below (although site doesn't seem to be loading for me at the moment for some reason) - perhaps Dyson's stopped making them. I don't know if the commercials are available in the US yet...

CLICK HERE TO GO TO vintagehoover's LINK

Post# 2229 , Reply# 17   10/8/2006 at 12:40 (4,988 days old) by myhooverco () had better hide the knives
(ducks and runs

Post# 2230 , Reply# 18   10/8/2006 at 12:46 (4,988 days old) by converto-skip ()        

I'm sure it will be yours. I talked to the office Manager and she said Kayla could at least get a 100.00 for it, so I told Sonja and she said she is almost positive that Kayla And Anthony would agree to Your offer

Post# 2250 , Reply# 19   10/8/2006 at 21:16 (4,988 days old) by charles~richard ()        
The world's butchest vacuum cleaner...

I have a feeling that the Dyson's styling and aesthetics are being marketed -- almost subliminally, really -- to men. The machines look all rugged and manly and like machine shop tools instead of something as sissy as a vacuum cleaner
While their designs are, overall, cool and innovative - if a bit over the top - I think the lot of them is butt ugly. I don't like the harsh, garish colors, and the heavy-industrial look of them doesn't appeal to me at all. Just MY opinion mind you; obviously plenty of people don't agree or they wouldn't be selling the way they are. But I echo what someone else said - I'd only have one if someone gave it to me

Post# 2254 , Reply# 20   10/8/2006 at 21:56 (4,988 days old) by myhooverco ()        

Charles...I agree with you...I do not like the styling at all...and they just don't work well with that tiny agitator. Who wants to revisit that nasty dirt everyday. (I vacuum everyday and don't like the thought of having to dump the thing and clean it out...much easier to change a bag ONCE a week...simple...clean...easy...and cheap...bags from the employee sales center are like $0.20 each on average!
The gal at work got a dyson in pink! She loves it. I will have to keep you updated on her love affair with it. I think she is in the honeymoon stage right now.
I don't want one at all...any bagless cleaner...any brand

Post# 2261 , Reply# 21   10/8/2006 at 23:54 (4,988 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I can remember more than one Kirby salesmen mentioning that Kirbys appeal more to men then women.Women often don't like changing the attachments-like going from floor cleaning to the hose.On the Dysons-the hose and attachments are rather unfreindly to use-awkward.The Kirby hose is actually MUCH easier to use.I hope Dyson improves their hose and attachment design.From what I have seen around here-Dysons are NOT top sellers.Their appearence to me is UNUSUAL!-they do sort of look to "cheap" and platsticy.

Post# 2282 , Reply# 22   10/9/2006 at 16:06 (4,987 days old) by colovacman ()        

I have owned two Dysons and have given one away to a friend and will gladly part with the other. I love the way they empty -- the best of the bagless lot. But they don't seem to be great for my carpet. I hope that the new American version of both the upright and the canister will be better suited toward our carpets. As with most collectors on this board, it's definitely fun to see and use different machines -- Dyson included. The whole "bagless" trend seems to be a major turning point in American vacuum sales and consumers should reap the rewards of the competition that's out there.

Post# 2299 , Reply# 23   10/9/2006 at 21:44 (4,987 days old) by charles~richard ()        
"The whole "bagless" trend seems to be a majo

Well I for one certainly hope not! To me that would seem a huge step BACKWARD in vacuum cleaner dust management and disposal.
The idea of a sanitary, hygenic, disposable SEALED container of dirt originates with the Electrolux "wrapper" introduced in 1952 where a rubber membrane and cardboard finger seals the dirt inside when the paper bag is removed from the cleaner. And of course disposable paper (cellulose actually) bags go all the way back to the 1920s with the Air-Way uprights
I really don't get the point of all that hepa-this and quadruple-filtered-that (mostly sales hype I suspect), if the user is going to be exposed to a cloud of spewing dust particles when dumping the vacuum cleaner dirt from one open container [the vacuum cleaner's dirt bin] into another open container [the trash can]
Of course, this is slightly less objectionable to the water-based machines where one is obliged to completely dismantle the machine, then pour out filthy, disgusting looking wastewater, and then leave the works dismantled until it dries out - meaning you can't just "vac and go" as most people tend to do --- do their sweeping and then open the hall closet door and toss the sweeper inside ... as my mom loves to do!
Mama does not even unhook the hose and attachments, nor coil the cord up -- just pitches the entire lot into the closet and tosses the cord in on top!! And she has done that ever since I was a teeny toddler and she had her Electrolux E-Automatic
Not that I recommend that sort of treatment, nor do I do so ... but it makes me laugh imagining my mother faced with a pile of dripping wet sweeper parts to deal with every time she vacuums! I have a feeling it wouldn't be long before the lot was sitting at the front curb waiting for the trash collector

Post# 2300 , Reply# 24   10/9/2006 at 21:48 (4,987 days old) by myhooverco ()        

Charles...amen to your post...very well written! It is nice to hear some common sense!!!

Post# 2307 , Reply# 25   10/9/2006 at 22:25 (4,987 days old) by compactc9 ()        

I too like a bag that seals closed when taken out of the vacuum. It makes bag changing sooo much nicer.

Post# 2314 , Reply# 26   10/10/2006 at 00:16 (4,987 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I can agree with Charles too-whats the point of the bagless machines-if they have a "HEPA" filter system-then when you have to dump it--you are exposed to the dirt and dust you were trying to aviod-and if dumpted inside-just spreads the dust you just picked up!I will stick with the BAGGED machines.Have had no problems of bags clogging or smelling.

Post# 2325 , Reply# 27   10/10/2006 at 15:37 (4,986 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
As Miele says.........

Bags ARE Best
The number of people with allegies that dont give a thought about how a bagless cleaner of any make is emptied never fails to amaze me lol. Even the way Dyson recommend (plastic bag etc) still leaves the dust exposed when removing the container from the bag
Any bagged cleaner-especially those with self sealing bags avoid the flying dust problem way better and If anyone wants clean easy dirt disposal I personally would never recommend a bagless of any make
Just my opinion

Post# 2376 , Reply# 28   10/10/2006 at 23:38 (4,986 days old) by compactc9 ()        

The DC17.


Post# 2377 , Reply# 29   10/11/2006 at 00:04 (4,986 days old) by swingette ()        
as one of the old Hoover adverts advised...

show me the agitator!

Post# 2379 , Reply# 30   10/11/2006 at 00:09 (4,986 days old) by convertible68 ()        

I am another who prefer bags over bagless. Much easier to change (yes, even bottom-fill bags on uprights), no filters or bins to mess with, and you don't have to worry about emptying out after each use. We had a Wal-Mart/GE bagless upright a few years ago (which was probably Eureka-made), and over time, regardless of how often you cleaned the filter, it slowly began to lose power. We're now using a Rainbow D4C as our main vacuum, which, for all intents and purposes, is bagless. My mom loves it; she is amazed every time at the junk it picks up in the water. All this time I thought she would have been the last person to love a Rainbow, considering the fact that emptying and keeping the tank clean can be a chore. It does a fantastic job of cleaning but I do think it's a bit inconvenient, though. Although I've never had to use it in my room anyway...the Frankenvertible takes care of that.
However, if I *HAD* to have a bagless upright, it would be a Dyson and nothing else. I will definitely keep that DC17 Absolute in mind; NICE-looking machine. Hopefully the brushroll is better than its predecessors; if it is, perhaps this will be the model that I will "bite the bullet" for and purchase
All of the "standard" Dysons such as the DC07, DC14, etc. have absolutely no appeal to me. Noisy and flimsy, in my opinion. I did try a DC15 Ball shortly after it came out and the way it handled almost had me sold, as well as the fact that it was a very quiet machine. However, when the Best Buy rep dumped the contents of the bin on the floor to vacuum back up, it did not like the pile of dirt at all. Took a few passes, and some of it either scattered across the floor or stuck to the nozzle itself. It's a shame because except for the nozzle, I really like the overall design of it. Except for those retractible wheels, it seemed more "solid" than the others,

Post# 2451 , Reply# 31   10/13/2006 at 01:44 (4,983 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
Dyson DC16 Root6 Handvac

From the UK website...

CLICK HERE TO GO TO vintagehoover's LINK

Post# 2457 , Reply# 32   10/13/2006 at 03:34 (4,983 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

$549 for THAT!! Forget it!!!also-show me the brushroll.does it use the belt-ratchet system?when I visited one of the vac places here-he replaced another ratchet-belt unit in a Dyson-an $80 job.I'll stick to the $2 belt!!and you can change it yourself.

Post# 2460 , Reply# 33   10/13/2006 at 03:45 (4,983 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

The Dyson Airblade hand-dryer sounds interesting; I think the case of Dyson Airblade vs. ordinary hand-dryers is much more clear-cut than Dyson vacuum cleaner vs. bagged vacuum cleaners. I can't wait to try one! Just hope they're better made than Dyson's vacuums...a broken-down Dyson hand-dryer vs. ordinary hand-dryer isn't gonna impress anyone!

Post# 2487 , Reply# 34   10/13/2006 at 21:52 (4,983 days old) by compactc9 ()        

For belts, just give me a geared belt that I won't have to think about for a long time.

Post# 2593 , Reply# 35   10/16/2006 at 17:04 (4,980 days old) by acerone ()        

Here's a really big picture of the DC18.. I want one of those....


Post# 2599 , Reply# 36   10/16/2006 at 18:09 (4,980 days old) by ahzeks ()        
Suprising Dyson Recommedation From a "Pro"

I had breakfast this past weekend with friends, one of whom works for the local university in the "Residence Life" department. He maintains and repairs the cleaning equipment (vacuum cleaners, floor scrubbers, extractors, etc.) that are used by the custodial staff in the residence halls. He also services the vacuum cleaners that are kept in the buildings for student use in their dorm rooms. The other friend was in the market for a new vacuum cleaner. Much to my suprise, my cleaning equipment repair friend recommeded a Dyson to my other friend. In the past, he had always only recommended Windsor or Sebo commerical models. When I asked him why he was recommending the Dyson, he said that it's because it is the only vacuum cleaner that the students haven't been able to destroy. He said they bought two of them two years ago for student use and he hasn't had to do a single repair on them. So this year, they bought several more Dysons to replace commercial machines that the students have managed to destroy. He said that the Sanitares and commercial Hoovers lasted less that a year in the hands of the students. And, while they held up much better, he said the Windsors/Sebos were always coming in for repair with broken handles, broken handle releases, broken bag covers, broken cogged belts (!) and almost always completely clogged from bag to floor nozzle, because the students never checked or changed the bags.

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