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| Post# 262419 , Reply# 1 1/8/2014 at 11:51 (3,752 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
Hi Dave,
Sebo are probably the best uprights you can get, but they can be quite heavy to use, so I probably wouldn't recommend that avenue. Are your folks wanting a bagged or bagless upright? Argos currently have the Vax Mach Air Reach on sale at £99.99. It's a VERY lightweight machine but also powerful. Could be ideal. If they're wanting bagged, the basic Panasonic uprights are ok - they retail for about £80 and are quite nice to use. Hope this helps. Chris | ||
| Post# 262421 , Reply# 2 1/8/2014 at 11:54 (3,752 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262422 , Reply# 3 1/8/2014 at 11:55 (3,752 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262424 , Reply# 4 1/8/2014 at 12:20 (3,752 days old) by jade_angel (Fort Collins, CO) | ||
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Though it's a little expensive, maybe a Sebo Felix? Those are much lighter than the X-series. | ||
| Post# 262429 , Reply# 5 1/8/2014 at 13:29 (3,752 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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I would consider getting the Vax Mach air :) | ||
| Post# 262430 , Reply# 6 1/8/2014 at 13:38 (3,752 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Those are much lighter than the X-series.
The Sebo Felix is 6.8kg, vs the 7.4kg of the Automatic X. It's quite top-heavy though, so it can be quite heavy to use.
The cheapest I've seen the Felix is £208.90. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Turbo500's LINK | ||
| Post# 262574 , Reply# 7 1/9/2014 at 12:42 (3,751 days old) by rutger (England) | ||
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Hi all There's some great suggestions here, many thanks all for your help on this, I really appreciate it. Cheers Dave :-) | ||
| Post# 262575 , Reply# 8 1/9/2014 at 12:56 (3,751 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 262666 , Reply# 10 1/10/2014 at 10:34 (3,750 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262669 , Reply# 12 1/10/2014 at 11:07 (3,750 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 262714 , Reply# 13 1/10/2014 at 18:31 (3,750 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
The best light upright I've tried so far is the Panasonic MC-UG522 bagged upright Vacuum Cleaner. It isn't as yet available from Argos but it is available from Amazon UK. It is now £66 which is a great price from what I paid, originally.
Only has a single drive belt compared to the white Panasonics at Argos. It is also lighter and easy to push. I loved the Oreck style handle on it. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 262778 , Reply# 15 1/11/2014 at 10:33 (3,749 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 262792 , Reply# 18 1/11/2014 at 12:01 (3,749 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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One thing that bothers me... Rutger - I don't know what link you are looking at on Amazon UK. The one that I'm looking at now shows 108 five star ratings compared to just 11 for one star. Some of the 1 star reviews relate to a "used-good" condition Panasonic upright, which doesn't surprise me in the least.
You can buy the same model at Argos: Product code 406/4406 for £79-50 or the black one, product code 406/5543.
I had to laugh at some of the reviews on Amazon UK as one owner moaned that the cord was too short - which means they would really hate Miele cylinder vacs since this Panasonic has 6.7metres of cord. Hoover fit 6.5 metres, so you're not getting that much of a short cord.
Whilst those Panasonics have been on the market for longer, I bought the newer bagged upright only last year and sold it onto a friend who was in dire need of a bagged upright in a home full of carpet and cleaning up after two cats.
Though the burgundy MG-UG522 doesn't come with a small turbo brush as standard, it doesn't do a bad job as a main upright vacuum cleaner. It is also a tad lighter than the white and black models and has an Eco-friendly 1200 watt motor.
I did a video of it. Bear in mind, mine cost £120 at the time and the current £60 is a far better price when putting up with some of its downsides. However as a general carpet upright Id pick it over Hoover's Purepower and the Electrolux Powerlite uprights, especially at the £60 asking price. The white/black models benefit from slightly thicker plastics though.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK This post was last edited 01/11/2014 at 12:16 | ||
| Post# 262795 , Reply# 19 1/11/2014 at 12:24 (3,749 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Forgot to add that, despite the newer Panasonic being far more eco-friendlier, I agree with Beko that the white and black bagged uprights are very durable. The white Panasonics also have plentiful suppliers for dust bags since it is a very popular vacuum for those after bagged design - the newer Panasonic uses higher filter bags and can be harder to find. The prices for the white models are dirt cheap - cheaper than Hoover Purepower and less of an effort to use in general. | ||
| Post# 262796 , Reply# 20 1/11/2014 at 12:36 (3,749 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City) | ||
If she's looking for "rugged" ... | ||
| Post# 262816 , Reply# 21 1/11/2014 at 14:15 (3,749 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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A used TriStar from garage sale or thrift store? I dont know if Eureka (UK Electrolux) The Boss 1934 is available in your side of the Atlantic? Link for US Eureka The Boss 1934 CLICK HERE TO GO TO floor-a-matic's LINK This post was last edited 01/11/2014 at 18:07 | ||
| Post# 262880 , Reply# 22 1/11/2014 at 17:35 (3,749 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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I'm forever seeing them at car boots and the like in need of a clean. Get a decent second hand one and new belts/filters/bags and it will be fine. Although £80 new isn't so bad. Better than anything else (saddens me to say) in that price range. If the brushroll was stiffer I'd rate it alot more. | ||
| Post# 262884 , Reply# 23 1/11/2014 at 17:38 (3,749 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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That was it the other day. There it is the day I pulled it out of the skip. Was very lucky to find 9 genuine bags with it too! Shows the short hose though | ||
| Post# 262896 , Reply# 24 1/11/2014 at 17:59 (3,749 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 263210 , Reply# 26 1/13/2014 at 17:17 (3,747 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 263231 , Reply# 27 1/13/2014 at 21:10 (3,746 days old) by Jaker15 (Meridian, ID) | ||
If it were me....
I would personally recommend a 500 series Kirby. Now, I have to remember that they may have been a bit different in the UK, but my model 514 from 1954 is one of the best I've used. It's pretty light, fairly quiet, and would put a modern upright to shame. If you happen to stumble upon one of the earlier Kirbys, that might be a pretty good choice. Besides, your mum would love the old-time feel of the machine! :) best of luck!
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| Post# 263270 , Reply# 28 1/14/2014 at 04:38 (3,746 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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I would personally recommend a 500 series Kirby | ||
| Post# 263371 , Reply# 29 1/14/2014 at 20:25 (3,745 days old) by Jaker15 (Meridian, ID) | ||
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Turbo500 | ||
| Post# 263399 , Reply# 30 1/15/2014 at 05:09 (3,745 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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never seen a Moulinex Master | ||
| Post# 263502 , Reply# 31 1/15/2014 at 18:11 (3,745 days old) by Jaker15 (Meridian, ID) | ||
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I would | ||
| Post# 264061 , Reply# 33 1/19/2014 at 08:29 (3,741 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 264173 , Reply# 34 1/19/2014 at 19:33 (3,740 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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By the looks of it Hoover still have their Dust Manager Evo GreenRay Upright for sale direct from Hoover UK for £89-99.
Id sooner buy that than go for the bagged Purepower. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK 
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| Post# 264208 , Reply# 35 1/20/2014 at 02:59 (3,740 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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This purepower was linked to in another thread, if it's any help CLICK HERE TO GO TO beko1987's LINK | ||
| Post# 264452 , Reply# 37 1/22/2014 at 10:34 (3,738 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Dave, you need to re-read what's been said above. Hoover don't exist anymore, they are just cheap, generic, chinese made machines with the word "Hoover" stamped on it.
After Hoover got taken over by Candy in 1995, their floorcare division was slowly dissolved and all production is now outsourced to China. Hoover haven't existed as you remember them in almost 20 years. Granted, the later Turbo 2's and early Purepower's weren't bad, but quality has been on a steady decline ever since. The Purepower you have bought your mother has absolutely no link what so ever to the Senior's and Turbopower's you remember, apart from that it has the same word printed on the front of it. It isn't designed by or produced by the same company. You could write "Hoover" on a Dyson with a sharpie but it's still a Dyson and still not a Hoover. As sad as it is, it won't be long before that Purepower needs replacing. The most common faults are: - Broken handle release - jammed height adjustment and/or broken height adjustment knob - cracked or smashed chasis due to the amount of force you have to put on the handle release to get it to work - failed power switch, either stuck in "on" or "off" - siezed brushroll bearings Every Purepower I've ever known anybody own has met it's make with one or all of the above. | ||
| Post# 264459 , Reply# 38 1/22/2014 at 12:00 (3,738 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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The other problem I had with them was the HEPA door on the back of the Purepower failing to stay on. Poor plastic lugs on the back facing plates. Don't know if they have improved any but after three attempts and two replacements, enough was enough.
It's a real shame about Hoover. I noticed that the Hoover Athos has been made into a "English" translated video on You Tube. Looks quite good but obviously trying to snatch sales from Miele's S5/S8 vacs on looks alone as well as Bosch. | ||
| Post# 264467 , Reply# 39 1/22/2014 at 13:15 (3,738 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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I like the Nanopack System on this, but if Hoover UK bought it to the UK I would buy one straightaway as long as it wasn't too expensive. | ||
| Post# 264474 , Reply# 40 1/22/2014 at 15:07 (3,738 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 264504 , Reply# 42 1/22/2014 at 21:24 (3,737 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Is that what Hoover told you?
When I phoned Hoover in Wales, they said that they don't know very much and only what the Italian company send over. No wonder the company in the UK are in a mess if they don't know in advance what they are receiving. Thing is, apart from the Nanopack design, there's virtually nothing distinguishable of the Athos compared to Miele's S5 or S8 when taking into consideration the bag capacity. Even in the video the woman looks like she has a short hose to put up with. I agree, the cost price will be the biggest's attractant. As a fan of the original Telios, it was like a softened version of the ARIA that went before it back in the 1980s and even then when you looked at it, it always had a Miele style about it. Hoover were also rapped in the 1980s for copying Miele's dust bag design. The Nanopack IMHO isn't as well designed as the Miele XXL handle that is available in other countries - a reason to why the S6 models have twin parking storage slots on either side of the vacuum cleaner and with the S8 too - the handle has an ingenious clip on the underside that allows the hose to be curved around the body of the Miele and the handle locked on one side of the vacuum cleaner with the floor head stored on the other. The Germans wouldn't put a clip that could in theory snap off at the front where the major controls sit. 
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| Post# 268244 , Reply# 43 2/17/2014 at 19:29 (3,711 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
Since I own one of the VERY early Purepower's which is from 1997 and I have owned a 2010 Purepower I can say that the quality, performance and noise level is NOTHING like that of the old one!!
The handle release on my 97 Purepower is far superior to the one that was on my 2010 model on my 97 one you just have to press it ever so lightly and it releases, unlike the 2010 model where an elephants foot was required. The Turbopower 2's were MUCH better, but that is another story and I am sure some or most people on here have heard me talk enough about Turbopower's. | ||
| Post# 268250 , Reply# 44 2/17/2014 at 20:28 (3,711 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 268278 , Reply# 45 2/18/2014 at 01:58 (3,711 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
I have had the mach air range and they really are very over rated. Cheaply built, very weak brush roll. It wont groom thick pilled carpets well at all.
The best lightweight vacuum I have used is what I have - Felix by Sebo. Not only is it lightweight but as we know, its detachable and has incredible vacuuming capabilities. Might also be easier because it swivels. Also, the on/off, suction control and the cable storage is up high on the cleaner. No bending down what so ever. | ||
| Post# 268299 , Reply# 46 2/18/2014 at 07:55 (3,711 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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Where the early Purepower's are concerned, the handle release was less temperamental as it actually had a metal spring under the pedal which would compress down when releasing and wouldn't snap under to much force, unlike the later and indeed new models did/do. The later and new models have a pedal which has a stiff plastic piece attached to the bottom of the it and is supposed to flex when compressed, however this can brake as it is only plastic which requires to bend. That is also the reason the handle release is so hard to press down because there is no spring under the pedal like the original design, it has that relatively rigid plastic piece which you have to nearly stamp on to get it to release and of course as mentioned if it is pressed to hard it will snap.
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