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Thread Number: 23406
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| Post# 262010 , Reply# 1 1/5/2014 at 21:49 (3,757 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City) | ||
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| Post# 262044 , Reply# 2 1/6/2014 at 06:03 (3,757 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio) | ||
Sanitaire SC889A
"I have been looking at uprights..."
Sanitaire SC889A •Allergen filtration Have to bend over to adjust height, and no attachments, but you still have a canister for that. Worth a look at $215.00 US. CLICK HERE TO GO TO ornery's LINK 
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| Post# 262045 , Reply# 3 1/6/2014 at 06:10 (3,757 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City) | ||
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| Post# 262048 , Reply# 4 1/6/2014 at 06:17 (3,757 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
Hi Elliot and welcome to the forum!
Neither the Aerus or Sanitaire are available in the UK. I'd highly recomend Sebo cleaners. I've been using them for years now - I have an Automatic X1.1, my mother has a Felix and my brother has a K1. All their range come with Hospital Grade S Class filtration. They also have bags which have a plastic cap that fits over the opening, so no dust escapes when you change it. Depending on your floor type and personal perference, there are many models available. The Felix is probably the most versatile upright on the market, as it comes with interchangable heads for different floortypes and can be used as a handheld cleaner. Miele are also an excellent choice, with a sealed HEPA system. The Miele dustbags are self-sealing, so again, no dust escapes. Miele consumables (bags, filters etc)are quite expensive compared with Sebo, so the running costs may be higher. I would avoid Hoover like the plague. They haven't been any good in years and are well known of being excessively loud with cheap, chinese motors and not very reliable. If you've any questions on any machines you particularly like, feel free to ask and I'm sure one of us will be able help. Below is a link to a thread with lots of Sebo info on it, although please excuse how "gay" the thread got. All the best, Chris CLICK HERE TO GO TO Turbo500's LINK | ||
| Post# 262050 , Reply# 5 1/6/2014 at 06:40 (3,757 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
Hi Elliott,
I think you will get better advice if you can provide us with more details about your cleaning needs: what kinds of surfaces need cleaning? What kind of home do you live in? Do you have lots of stairs? Are your carpets low pile or deeper plush pile? Is your home mostly carpeted from wall-to-wall, or do you mostly have bare floors with a few large Persian rugs? Do you have any cats or dogs? Do you use your vacuum to dust your furniture and bookshelves? What price range are you considering for your purchase? All of this can help us choose which vacs might be better for your situation...:-) | ||
| Post# 262051 , Reply# 6 1/6/2014 at 06:46 (3,757 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
 Hi Elliot - welcome to the Forum - Good to see another UK member too!
Though the Felix can convert to a hand held vacuum, it's about the size of a sports bag which isn't that compact to carry around with. Some members will offer a different opinion, but I thought I would just ask what you feel are the downsides to the Henry and what you like about it, rather than just jump at the chance of buying a new vacuum.
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| Post# 262055 , Reply# 8 1/6/2014 at 07:48 (3,756 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Hi Elliot,
I would recomend any of the Sebo range. The brushroll is one of the best you'll find on a modern upright and really grooms the carpet pile well. The Felix would probably be better for you as it has the function to switch off the brushroll and/or change the floorhead completely, so you can vacuum all your different floortypes without changing cleaner and it won't scratch the floors. It also has the same S class filtration as the Automatic X machines. The one downside to the Felix is that the bags are smaller than on the X series, but if you've no pets, it shouldn't fill up too quickly. My Mum changes the bag on her Felix once every 3 months or so. See link. I know exactly how your other half feels. I'm very allergic to dust, so much so that emptying any bagless cleaner will trigger streaming eyes and a sneezing fit. One thing you can do to help (if you don't already) is to vacuum the mattress and flip it over once a fortnight. It keeps dust particals and dust mites away, and it's dust mite allergens that usually trigger allergic reactions. Hope that helps, Chris CLICK HERE TO GO TO Turbo500's LINK | ||
| Post# 262056 , Reply# 9 1/6/2014 at 07:48 (3,756 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Aha. Now we have a little more info to work with.
First of all, if your partner has allergies, I would stay away from bagless vacs like Dyson. Emptying the bin and keeping the filters clean can be a messy process. With bags, you often get a seal to keep dust from spewing out when disposing of the bag. Living in North America, I can't really know the details of what is on the market in the UK...but it sounds like a high-filtration Miele canister with a power nozzle might be your best bet. Carrying a heavy upright up and down the stairs can be tiring. Miele's new S8 canisters are very lightweight and you can add a variety of tools to match your needs, such as a mini-turbo nozzle for your carpeted stairs. Not sure if you can get a Miele with an electric power nozzle in the UK, but if these are available, that would be your best option since Miele electric carpet brushes are very good at lifting the nap and removing ground in dirt and embedded dust. In North America, the Miele power nozzle canisters have often rated better for deep carpet cleaning than the Sebo canisters. Even the Miele uprights deep clean carpets better than our Sebo uprights....according to Consumer Reports tests. Good luck! | ||
| Post# 262057 , Reply# 10 1/6/2014 at 07:57 (3,756 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Not sure if you can get a Miele with an electric power nozzl
Sadly, Miele discontinued the powernozzle models in the UK in 2009. The nearest you can get to one is the Miele Cat & Dog, which comes with the air driven turbo brush.
The Miele S7 uprights are fantastic cleaners, but they're very heavy and very large to use. They're great if you have a big house, but not so great for your average UK semi or terraced house. I certainly found it awkward to use in my house. They've also had a number of reliability issues, such as the handle release mechanism failing and annoyingly, the whole machine needs dismantling just to replace this. I've also found that Miele consumables are a lot more expensive to buy than Sebo's, so running costs may be more. | ||
| Post# 262062 , Reply# 12 1/6/2014 at 08:18 (3,756 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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glad to know I'm in good company
Put the flowers out, boys, we've got another one ;).
Sebo have been around since 1978 as a commercial upright. They were actually the first upright vacuum ever to feature an on-board hose and the first vacuum ever to feature an electronic clutch controlled brushroll, which shuts down the machine if the brushroll becomes jammed or the machine becomes blocked in order to protect the motor and the belt. They're the only vacuum manufacturer that guaruntee the belt for the life of the machine. They branched into the domestic market with the X1 in 1991, which was the first upright to feature computer-controled automatic height adjustment. They've been a Which? best buy pretty much constantly since then. They're also recommended by Good Housekeeping. They really are terrific machines and because Sebo come from a commercial background, they're real workhorses and have been known to last for years. The first Sebo I ever saw was in 1998 and belonged to a friend who's parents had a working farm. 15 years on, it's still going strong. A lot of places have return policies if you're not happy with your purchase. I think John Lewis have a 10 day no questions asked return policy, so you could always buy one and return it if you're not completely happy with it. | ||
| Post# 262066 , Reply# 13 1/6/2014 at 08:33 (3,756 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262068 , Reply# 14 1/6/2014 at 09:11 (3,756 days old) by elliot () | ||
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Flowers for me how nice Chris ;-) :-) Thanks Joe that's another vote for Sebo :-) what model do you have? | ||
| Post# 262069 , Reply# 15 1/6/2014 at 09:18 (3,756 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Flowers for me how nice Chris ;-) :-) | ||
| Post# 262070 , Reply# 16 1/6/2014 at 09:37 (3,756 days old) by elliot () | ||
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Lol well I came out about the same time as the Dyson DC07 :-) | ||
| Post# 262071 , Reply# 17 1/6/2014 at 09:41 (3,756 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City) | ||
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The big drawback of the Sebos ... | ||
| Post# 262072 , Reply# 18 1/6/2014 at 09:43 (3,756 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262073 , Reply# 19 1/6/2014 at 09:45 (3,756 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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… is their lack of a headlight.
Well, that's a matter of opinion. I personally don't see the point of a headlight on a modern cleaner - it's not like we need to be vacuuming in the dark in 2014. Headlights have never been an overly popular feature in the UK and the only vacuum in the UK with a headlight is the TOL Miele S7 which is rather expensive.
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| Post# 262075 , Reply# 20 1/6/2014 at 09:53 (3,756 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262085 , Reply# 21 1/6/2014 at 10:26 (3,756 days old) by elliot () | ||
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Well it wasnt by choice lol... I've read up on Sebo and now can't decided on which one, oh dear I think I might have to get both at this rate! | ||
| Post# 262090 , Reply# 22 1/6/2014 at 10:38 (3,756 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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It depends what you're priorities are, Elliot. The benefit of the Felix is that it's very versatlie, has the swivel action and the manual guided height adjustment but has smaller bags. The benefit of the Automatic X is that it has a larger capacity and the automatic, computer controlled height adjustment but doesn't have brushroll on/off controls. What would your preference be?
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| Post# 262094 , Reply# 24 1/6/2014 at 10:59 (3,756 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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The Felix is great if you have different floor types. It's a bit like a cylinder stood on it's head. The Felix Premium in my link above comes with 2 floorheads - the powernozzle for carpets (which can also be switched off for bare floors) and the deluxe parquet nozzle for bare floors. You have the option with it of either just turning the brushroll in the PN off or switching heads completely.
All the Sebo tools and accessories fit the Felix, so if you wanted to buy additional tools like the extension hose etc, then that option is there too. If you're still undecided, maybe you should try them both out in John Lewis or Currys before you buy, then you can see which you prefer using? This post was last edited 01/06/2014 at 11:26 | ||
| Post# 262097 , Reply# 25 1/6/2014 at 11:13 (3,756 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I think you answered well the first time, Chris.
Since Elliot has given more info, the Felix is probably going to be the pick of the bunch.
However Elliot, the Henry will not be the cause of any allergy unless the filter basket hasn't been cleaned in quite a while. Henry vacuums don't tend to leak dust like bagless vacuums and the cause of red eyes could be something else in the air or bedding/mattress.
The only downside to the Felix that is inherent/same as the X series is that the hoses on board are short - they are also located at the top which means when they are taken out, they can pull the vacuum over. Luckily SEBO do recognise this fact and the rears of the uprights are well protected.
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| Post# 262098 , Reply# 26 1/6/2014 at 11:28 (3,756 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio) | ||
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In The Dark
@NYCWriter
Good point about the missing headlights. I really thought there was one on that Sanitaire, but that's moot now anyway. Coincidently, I just picked up an LED flashlight from Harbor Freight ($4.99)to mount on the front of my Royal 1030z. Yeah, it will be a ghetto setup, but I can't figure out a better way to do it. The blower housing has a different shape, so you can't easily mount the proper hood and lamp. CLICK HERE TO GO TO ornery's LINK | ||
| Post# 262130 , Reply# 28 1/6/2014 at 14:51 (3,756 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 262199 , Reply# 31 1/7/2014 at 04:13 (3,756 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Slightly off topic but I received a lovely thank you card and a cheque this morning from my mum's friend who has now fallen for the charms of the SEBO X4 Extra I loaned her.
She loves how light it is to push on her carpets but also for the fact that the X4 seems to have more suction than the same power rating of the old Electrolux Boss Filtraire upright but less of a chore to push and adores the handy "whip out" hoister handle and hose design. ] | ||
| Post# 262200 , Reply# 32 1/7/2014 at 04:17 (3,756 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262203 , Reply# 33 1/7/2014 at 04:28 (3,756 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 262209 , Reply# 34 1/7/2014 at 04:54 (3,756 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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My cat hasn't been too well recently. She picked up fleas from somewhere (as they do) and has had conjunctivitis. I absolutely blizted my house this weekend just gone, and sprayed ALL the floors with a flea spray I got from the vet as well as treating the cat with frontline.
This, of course, meant a lot of vacuuming as everywhere need to be vacuumed and the treated with flea spray, especially in undisturbed areas like under beds and sofas. Having completely blitzed the place with the help of my significant other, he's now wanting a Sebo after being impressed with mine to replace his 10 year old Panasonic. Out of interest, Ry, which Sebo did you/do you use the most? | ||
| Post# 262212 , Reply# 35 1/7/2014 at 05:02 (3,756 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Aww, poor pooty! Well Chris, that's a hard one to ask me (ooh-er!)
If I want to do a few rooms to clean around the home, I use the X series as the bigger wand and traditional push/pull process is more reliant.
If I require a quick clean, I use the Felix.
If I require the home to have a complete all over clean, from room to room from one plug, the 12 metre D2 cylinder vac gets used. | ||
| Post# 262214 , Reply# 36 1/7/2014 at 05:20 (3,756 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 262215 , Reply# 37 1/7/2014 at 05:28 (3,756 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262216 , Reply# 38 1/7/2014 at 05:46 (3,756 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 262217 , Reply# 39 1/7/2014 at 05:49 (3,756 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262218 , Reply# 40 1/7/2014 at 05:52 (3,756 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 262219 , Reply# 41 1/7/2014 at 05:57 (3,756 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262220 , Reply# 42 1/7/2014 at 06:33 (3,756 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 262229 , Reply# 43 1/7/2014 at 09:36 (3,755 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 262232 , Reply# 44 1/7/2014 at 10:20 (3,755 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Arrrr cute cat
Hi Dan,
Ain't she just? Don't be fooled, though, she can be a RIGHT little madam. She's a big softy though and loves affection, but she's very fussy with who she trusts at times. I've entered that competition a million times and I never seem to get anywhere lol. Which model are you interested in? I know you like your cylinders - are you after a D series or K series model? Chris | ||
| Post# 262238 , Reply# 45 1/7/2014 at 10:47 (3,755 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 262240 , Reply# 46 1/7/2014 at 10:53 (3,755 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Hi Dan,
Good choice - a future collectable, I imagine, as it was produced as a limited edition for the jubilee in 2012. I heard from a reliable source that Sebo had major trouble shifting stock of the Felix Royale, so they might be more inclined to pick that model as a winning choice just to get rid of it. Good luck! Chris | ||
| Post# 262245 , Reply# 47 1/7/2014 at 11:23 (3,755 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 262247 , Reply# 48 1/7/2014 at 11:41 (3,755 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 262275 , Reply# 49 1/7/2014 at 14:57 (3,755 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
SEBO all the way!
Probably came in a bit late on this thread, welcome to the forum Elliot.
I can personally recommend the SEBO Felix, I've had mine over 6 years with no issues, love it! The bags on mine last on average 3 months and the Felix is used 3 to 5 times a week and we have a dog so it's packed full of pet hair as well as dirt and dust. The new synthetic bags you can get for the Felix are fantastic prefer them over the paper ones, the airflow and suction remain strong even when the bag is full! The bags are like bricks when you remove them, dust and dirt is compact tight and they fill to the top too. I'm yet to replace the pre and post motor filters as in it's early years I didn't use it much unlike I do now. They are due for a change very soon. The bags and filters are easy enough to replace and reasonable price too. I use the parquet attachment that came with mine for hard floors but the main power head is ok to use to as others say you can turn the brush bar off. The variable power is useful too. I have also purchased the long extension hose and dusting brush as additions which are useful. I have a Miele S7 which I have had over a year now as I wanted an additional upright with a hose and wand onboard. I would have gone for a SEBO X4 but this S7 was a great price at the time. Why it's a great machine, performance etc.. like others have said it's big, bulky and heavy and the bags are not cheap compared to the SEBO's. I choose the Felix over the X Series 6 years ago for me it was due to the versatile of the Felix compared to the X although I do love the X series too. Try the Felix I'm sure you will like it. | ||
| Post# 262305 , Reply# 50 1/7/2014 at 17:03 (3,755 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262329 , Reply# 52 1/7/2014 at 21:22 (3,755 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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If Miele no longer offers electric power nozzles on their canister vacs in the UK, then it looks like the Sebo D4 is your best bet. It's got one of the longest cables offered on a canister vac! And the power nozzle's brush roll is a breeze to remove for maintenance!
CLICK HERE TO GO TO eurekaprince's LINK | ||
| Post# 262330 , Reply# 53 1/7/2014 at 21:27 (3,755 days old) by Loganvac (Kennett Square, Pennsylvania) | ||
I'm inspired!!! | ||
| Post# 262368 , Reply# 54 1/8/2014 at 03:24 (3,755 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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claw my eyes out if I didn't let her outside
LOL, Gyps would be clawing to get back in. She like her home comforts far too much. Being an indoor cat was her own choice, and even if I leave the front door open, she's not bothered. She'll sit on the front step in summer but that's about it.
The Sebo D4 would be a good choice, but it is on the expensive side. They're about Ł100 more than the base model Felix, but both are similar in terms of performance as they use the same powernozzle. If you're after another cylinder, then deffo the D4 if you can stretch too it. | ||
| Post# 262384 , Reply# 55 1/8/2014 at 06:46 (3,755 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City) | ||
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| Post# 262385 , Reply# 56 1/8/2014 at 07:48 (3,754 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Matt, there is no cleaner at all on the UK market with an electric upholstery nozzle.
I've found that the air-driven turbo brushes are perfectly fine for cleaning furniture as there is no pile as such and therefore one only really requires a surface clean to remove threads, hair and dust. Just for the record, I use the standard straight suction upholstery tool on my stairs and furniture and it's absolutely fine. I have never needed a turbine or electric nozzle to clean either as the standard Sebo upholstery tool picks everything up, including cat hair, just fine. | ||
| Post# 262403 , Reply# 57 1/8/2014 at 09:45 (3,754 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Yesterday I took out an old tea towel that I adore but it was covered in black bobbling due to the old quality of the cotton and it had been dried with an old sweater. Took out the stair turbo brush and fixed it to my Felix and went along the tea towel quickly to get rid of the bobbling. All done and no problem.
As for pets, the standard SEBO tools are just fine but in recent years I have used the stair cleaning turbo brush to remove pet hair that lines up and down curtains. It is a Wessel Werk unit similar to the one Miele sell and it is superb.
I don't think I could handle an electric upholstery nozzle - the ones I've seen in the U.S look too bulky and heavy IMHO. | ||
| Post# 262462 , Reply# 59 1/8/2014 at 17:17 (3,754 days old) by moojuiceuk (Southampton, England) | ||
+1 vote for a Sebo... albeit a bit late.
Mum has an X4 and it's a really nice machine to use. Bags can be filled 90% solid before suction drops off, the charcoal filters keep the doggie smells at bay and its probably the best plastic built upright I've seen for sale today (hers takes a regular beating about the house). The bags on a Sebo X4 come with little plastic stoppers, so you can remove the bag and pop a stopper over the opening before any dust and dirt escapes. A nice little touch I thought. also +1 for me too.. pass the flowers here ;) My ex, he used to collect cleaners as a kid too. Im starting to notice a pattern here! | ||
| Post# 262509 , Reply# 60 1/8/2014 at 22:14 (3,754 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 262522 , Reply# 61 1/9/2014 at 01:47 (3,754 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262524 , Reply# 62 1/9/2014 at 02:31 (3,754 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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starting to notice a pattern
It's been a pattern for a long time around these parts lol. I've found it's best not to ask too many questions and just go with it lol.
Also, really great to see people with such good taste in vacuums with their Sebo's and Miele's. I have to say though, while the S7 is a great cleaner, it's very large and can be very awkward to use. It's also not as solidly built as the Sebo X series or as easy to steer as the Felix. | ||
| Post# 262525 , Reply# 63 1/9/2014 at 02:32 (3,754 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 262542 , Reply# 64 1/9/2014 at 06:10 (3,754 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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No matter how heavy the Miele S7 is (22 lbs) it is still a far better deep carpet cleaner than most other uprights on the market in both North America and Europe. All Miele S7 models have rated "excellent" in cleaning of medium pile carpets in recent Consumer Reports testing. The Sebo Felix only rated "very good" and the $700 Sebo X5 only rated "good" in the carpet cleaning test. The X5 also had far weaker airflow through the hose for cleaning with tools compared to the Miele S7. The Miele uprights are also quieter than the Felix and the X5 when the Sebos are used with the power heads turned on.
Many Vacuumlanders have noted that it's best to avoid the Sebo uprights that have an electronic automatic height control on the power nozzle as it does not set the height needed for effective carpet cleaning. Others have warned that it has a tendency to misread very deep carpet as too much stress on the rotating brush which causes it to shut off unnecessarily. If buying a Sebo, better to get a model with the manual height adjustment dial. | ||
| Post# 262545 , Reply# 65 1/9/2014 at 06:35 (3,754 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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best to avoid the Sebo uprights that have an electronic auto
I completely disagree. I've found the Sebo automatic height adjustment to be pretty spot on and reach a level where it deep cleans the carpet enough without being difficult to push. The only time this has ever been an issue, was on my landing which had a rather uneven floor. But since fitting a new carpet that's much thicker, I have not had this problem at all.
When recomending a vacuum, you have to know your market. You have to remember that shag carpeting has been a thing of the past for a long time in the UK. Most homes now have a mixture of bare floors and medium pile. Infact, I know more people now with laminate floors throughout their entire downstairs than I do those with wall to wall carpets. UK homes are also a LOT smaller than US homes. I found the S7 far too bulky and awkward to use in my house, whereas the Sebo is pretty much the perfect size. I never take much notice of consumer reports. Which? have been known to give 2 cleaners in the same range a different rating, despite the only difference being the filters. For example, Which? gave 2 Miele cylinders a different rating on pick up, despite the only difference being that 1 model had upgraded HEPA filters. Same story with Dyson Animal and All Floors getting different ratings for carpet pickup, despite being exactly the same machines just with different tools. But if you're wanting to go down the consumer reports route, the Sebo uprights have been a Which? best buy pretty much constantly since 1991 and are also Good Housekeeping Institute approved. Being close friends with a number of repair shop owners, it's been reported that the S7 has had a number of reliability issues (such as the handle release mechanism failing) compared with the Sebo, which hardly ever needs a major repair and mostly needs minor servicing and replacement of consumables that wear naturally over time. | ||
| Post# 262546 , Reply# 66 1/9/2014 at 07:16 (3,753 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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See, that's the difference between actual ownership and consumer testing. Where a company slates one vacuum cleaner or promotes another, as an owner you may find a totally different experience - same with anything really that gets tested by an official organisation. Why should it be different for vacuum cleaners to rely on Consumer Reports?
I find it deeply ironic that a low of U.S members on here are quite happy to slate the automatic sensor height adjustment of the SEBO X series but seem to adore the Windsor Sensor uprights - they're virtually the same!! Ok, save for a new motor and a curvier body, the X series is the same machine! The difference between SEBO and Miele however is that the X series was designed to be repaired BY THE OWNER. It is not one of those "send me back to the shop" jobs. The U.S should be counting their blessings - the UK have stopped getting the G2 with manual height adjustment - at least your guys have the option to have such a model on the market - SEBO UK sell the Dart commercial vacuum as the G2's replacement, which in my mind is not the same at all. | ||
| Post# 262549 , Reply# 67 1/9/2014 at 07:54 (3,753 days old) by elliot () | ||
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ordered Hi again everyone thank you for your advice I've ordered the Sebo Felix, it's looks great and it seems to be more manouvable will add a picture when it arrives :) | ||
| Post# 262550 , Reply# 68 1/9/2014 at 08:19 (3,753 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262553 , Reply# 69 1/9/2014 at 09:17 (3,753 days old) by elliot () | ||
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Hi Chris, I got the Pet edition I like the black and silver colour looks smart I think :) Elliot :) | ||
| Post# 262554 , Reply# 70 1/9/2014 at 09:29 (3,753 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Eurekaprince
Im unsure what you mean about "Sebo's are louder when the power nozzle is turned on" with regards to the X5 - the brush roll constantly spins when the vacuum cleaner is switched on.
Whilst Miele's S7 is quieter, it is a far more modern design than the 20 something year old SEBO X range. The phrase that springs to mind that SEBO certainly aspire to comes from Thomas Bertram Lance, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget in Jimmy Carter's 1977 administration, "if it 'aint broke, don't fix it." I am sure that other members could easily pick apart CR's test findings. The only thing that the S7 shares with SEBO in my mind is the fact that they are both German in origin and each brand offer an upright vacuum unlike Bosch. The S7 is nothing like the X series in my experience. I know. I owned an S7. Very quiet and great to use in a large home...which the UK don't tend to have rather a lot of. But I found it too heavy, too bulky and yes the hose and wand is longer, but it can't be removed easily if there is a clog, requiring two screws to undo, which isn't very practical. Great for wide hallways too as well as plenty of open minimalist furniture since the model swivels - but I find the Felix far more nimble and easier to use. In my mind, the S7 was more designed for the U.S than Europe & Asia in general. You only need to look at Miele's website in Japan and other countries to realise that - they all sell canister/cylinder vacs. | ||
| Post# 262560 , Reply# 71 1/9/2014 at 09:49 (3,753 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262569 , Reply# 72 1/9/2014 at 11:17 (3,753 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Good choice! The black one certainly looks classy, Elliot.
You might want to invest in buying the extension hose if you require more stretch from the on board hose. SEBO's latest ones are dark silver in colour to match the current range though you can pick up the original cream/grey ones online at cheaper costs. One thing I will say about the Felix - you don't need to raise all the power to the maximum when cleaning carpets as there's enough power at the start. I rarely use the high power on mine. | ||
| Post# 262571 , Reply# 73 1/9/2014 at 11:46 (3,753 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire ) | ||
I wouldn't recommend the D4 | ||
| Post# 262585 , Reply# 74 1/9/2014 at 14:54 (3,753 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Great choice....
On your purchase of a new SEBO Felix Pet Elliot. Hope you enjoy using it, I certainly love mine easy and a joy to use. The black and silver colour of the Felix Pet looks stylish. The optional extension hose is worth investing in and the dust brush too! I use the extension hose sometimes for car and stair cleaning.
Enjoy your new vacuum when it arrives! | ||
| Post# 262586 , Reply# 75 1/9/2014 at 15:11 (3,753 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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I agree with you there Ryan you don't need to put the Felix on full power to clean carpets. I've especially noticed it more since using the new synthetic bags. I do use nearly full
power when cleaning hard floors not all the time though! Same with your comments on Miele S7, it is designed for the larger homes. I do like mine and it cleans very well but it is large bulky and heavy and the hose\wand is not as user friendly as the SEBO X looks. Yes the hose is longer and the wand extends on the Miele S7 but the SEBO X wand\hose is quick release. My S7 was a good price hence why I got one, probably should of got the SEBO X4 instead to go with the Felix. I do use my Felix more though. | ||
| Post# 262590 , Reply# 76 1/9/2014 at 16:28 (3,753 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City) | ||
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| Post# 262591 , Reply# 77 1/9/2014 at 16:31 (3,753 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Aerus Lux Guardian Platinum UK has seen nothing remotely like that since the early-mid 1980's. | ||
| Post# 262593 , Reply# 78 1/9/2014 at 16:36 (3,753 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 262616 , Reply# 80 1/9/2014 at 21:05 (3,753 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Hey there Matt,
Indeed, it's interesting that there is no UK division of Lux International. The Swiss company is the one that developed the Platinum canister for continental Europe and so it seems to be available everywhere from France to Finland. But not the UK. I know the Australian version - the Sauber Intelligence - has its own power nozzle. | ||
| Post# 262626 , Reply# 81 1/9/2014 at 22:38 (3,753 days old) by elliot () | ||
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Hey Chris, I ordered it from John Lewis Liverpool they didn't have one on the shop floor only available to order on-line which I thought was a bit strange as they have 2 versions of the X4 on display :s | ||
| Post# 262639 , Reply# 82 1/10/2014 at 02:59 (3,753 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Maybe possibly one day Aerus may appear in the UK but I don't hold out for much confidence since Electrolux have ceased making vacuums with their own name on it. Its a sign of the times - unless a U.S only brand such as Riccar or Simplicity arrive here in the UK with the idea of selling products - Aerus would probably follow suit.
However, I was watching QVC a couple of nights ago and they were selling a new "exclusive" Oreck single motor swivel bagged upright. Looked good in the tests but Orecks always seem to do. Half the problem with the UK general public is the way something looks - I don't think buyers would be swayed on the looks of a product like the Aerus, no matter how good it is. | ||
| Post# 262648 , Reply# 83 1/10/2014 at 05:27 (3,753 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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ceased making vacuums with their own name | ||
| Post# 262649 , Reply# 84 1/10/2014 at 05:52 (3,753 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 262790 , Reply# 86 1/11/2014 at 11:27 (3,751 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City) | ||
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Dan ... | ||
| Post# 262791 , Reply# 87 1/11/2014 at 11:29 (3,751 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City) | ||
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Benny ...
"...despite all the UK comedy shows which have been enjoyed by those in the USA, few seem able to visualise just how small the rooms in many UK homes are."
Same here for New York City-based shows. "Friends", "Seinfeld", and "Mad About You" immediately come to mind. Now, back in the '70s, they were a bit more realistic with "Rhoda" ... particularly her sister's tiny studio apartment (even making her mother sit on the toilet seat during a party when they ran out of chairs!). | ||
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