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Post# 261734   1/4/2014 at 05:44 (3,736 days old) by keiththomas (Northumberland, England)   |   | |
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Hi My hoover pure power has been patched up now and becomming worn out so time to move with the times. I got a Dyson which is fine but a cylinder, I looked at Dyson but I cannot justify spending £300.00 or abouts. I seen Morphy Richards No Loss of suction Dyson look a like, and another one a bit ugly. Also Vax Mach 8. I noticed a lot of Bagless machines are not that good. There is the Hoover Jazz or Globe others are poor. Which magaziine only recommends Dyson but too expensive my the occassional use.
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Post# 261735 , Reply# 1   1/4/2014 at 05:47 (3,736 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Have you considered reconditioned dysons? |
Post# 261744 , Reply# 2   1/4/2014 at 07:55 (3,736 days old) by keiththomas (Northumberland, England)   |   | |
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Post# 261745 , Reply# 3   1/4/2014 at 08:05 (3,736 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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If its for "occasional use" then what is wrong with a bagged cleaner? |
Post# 261746 , Reply# 4   1/4/2014 at 08:06 (3,736 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Hi, There are some great machines in your price range. One machine I would definitely recommend is a AEG precision at currys for £160. I comes with a 2 yr guarantee and the cyclone tech is very efficient for what you pay. Its a lot better than a Hoover Globe or Jazz. I would also recommend a Morphy Richard Vorticity is £75. I will put a link in below. Fantastic machine, robust and very good cyclone tech for what you pay. I would suggest both machines as a good price. and a Panasonic MC-CL934 is pretty good to at £172.
Thanks, Josh www.thesseshop.co.uk/p-3353-panas... www.electricaldiscountuk.co.uk/st... www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/home-applia... |
Post# 261747 , Reply# 5   1/4/2014 at 08:34 (3,736 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Sorry I wouldnt recommend the AEG.
The Vax Mach Air Reach is a good one and its currently on sale at Argos for £99. I might get one myself again, but only for my aunt who has the pets from hell. You can't beat Vax's 6 year guarantee, either. I've had this vacuum before. It's pretty good but has the usual modern plastic pros and cons. Small dust bin capacity but at the same time its very lightweight, compact, easy to store and pretty easy to use. Hoover in the U.S have a similar model in their Windtunnel Air series. The Reach model means you get an extra long hose that you don't have to use unless you do, 10 metre long cable and a turbo brush for pet hair or stairs. Everything you would need, really in a well thought out upright. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK |
Post# 261749 , Reply# 6   1/4/2014 at 09:01 (3,736 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Post# 261750 , Reply# 7   1/4/2014 at 09:06 (3,736 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Post# 261765 , Reply# 9   1/4/2014 at 10:22 (3,736 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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In my long experience, there's virtually no difference between any of the "No Loss of Suction" vacuums compared to Dyson. They may well have different names to distinguish each brand, but end of the day they're all Chinese made vacuums and all have similar hose measurements and motors. My Vax filters didn't require to be cleaned until after 6 or 7 months when used as a daily driver. After 2 years I eventually bought a new filter for it when a friend of mine was quite impressed with it - I eventually sold it to him.
The Vax has a pretty low 1200 watt motor as standard. The REACH model also has a 1.1 metre hose as standard but on top of that you get another 1.5 metres extension hose that stores on the machine. The bin capacity is 1.5 litres, so you're losing out a little cubic capacity over the AEG and Hoover.
However, the Vax is far easier to use and push than the Hoover Slalom that I bought to replace it. Had the REACH been available at £99 I wouldn't have bought the Slalom.
End of the day, I like a lightweight upright to push and not something that appears too bulky. Certainly if you want something as heavy as your Purepower, then go with the other models but to me, the Reach offers it all in terms of a cut price (now) upright that pretty much does what it says. If you want an upright with a long warranty, the Vax offers that as a sweet bonus.
Dyson Boy - do you actually own the AEG?? It doesn't appear to be listed in your collection on your profile on here. |
Post# 261769 , Reply# 11   1/4/2014 at 12:03 (3,736 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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In my experience all Loss of suction machines are all different Like the Hoover slalom cyclones Let through hair And not dust And vax gives out a lot of fine dust That clogs the filter Dyson's latest cyclones Give out Nothing that's fantastic And yes I have got AEG And I've had VAX And Hoover Any machine you can think of Have you even got a vax? The hose on the vax Is very fiddly You have to connect a extension hoses the AEG The Hose is Built-in And it comes off with one push of a button And the poll is extremely long to In my view the aeg a lot better But it's up to What vacuum u Like
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Post# 261770 , Reply# 12   1/4/2014 at 12:07 (3,736 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Post# 261771 , Reply# 13   1/4/2014 at 12:26 (3,736 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Another vote here for the Vax Mach Air Reach. Absolute bargain. The cyclone is not as efficient as the current Dyson filter, but still very efficient - similar to that of a DC04. The suction is great and the cleaner has some great features, such as the extension hose, brushroll on/off function for hard floors, easy access to the brushroll to clean. It's a lovely, lightweight machine too. The Vax also comes with a 6 year guarantee (as opposed to Dyson and Morphy Richards/Shark 5 years and AEG's 2 years).
Be careful with Vax cleaners, though. Only the models branded "no loss of suction" with the 6 year guarantee are worth owning. Any of the Power or Zoom models aren't worth knicker! |
Post# 261772 , Reply# 14   1/4/2014 at 12:29 (3,736 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)   |   | |
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Post# 261777 , Reply# 15   1/4/2014 at 13:21 (3,736 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I don't need to use the AEG when it weighs 7kg. It is far bulkier looking than the Vax Mach Air too. For an "occasional" use upright vacuum, the Vax is small enough to compete and when it offers so much for £99 when the "swivel" upgrade Air3 is obviously the model that is going to replace it before Vax bring out something else, the fixed position is a much better design IMHO.
I've owned the Vax Mach Air since it was released in the UK; when the Reach appeared in 2010, I bought that too.
Though I prefer bagged uprights, I bought the Vax Mach Air originally when I lived away from home in a temporary year long job and it performed well. The short cord annoyed me to no end though. I found the REACH model is far better and great for a medium to large home with new carpets or lots of pets to clear up after.
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Post# 261778 , Reply# 16   1/4/2014 at 13:35 (3,736 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Post# 261782 , Reply# 18   1/4/2014 at 13:46 (3,736 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()   |   | |
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It's just how Dyson Machines are ALL plastic whereas the Vax Mach Air has an aluminium pole because I had one. |
Post# 261789 , Reply# 19   1/4/2014 at 14:17 (3,736 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Post# 261839 , Reply# 20   1/4/2014 at 18:21 (3,736 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 261843 , Reply# 21   1/4/2014 at 19:15 (3,736 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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I meant That's the machine That you would like to get And save up for And it's always best to try and test out the machine before you buy it Like you said some people don't have Companies where they Cannot test them. some machines Aren't available to view. I buy my machines by selling Doing up Dysons I'm selling some of my collection.
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Post# 261877 , Reply# 22   1/5/2014 at 02:28 (3,736 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()   |   | |
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Dyson Boy, I do the same. I am however saving up for a Dyson which I am going to purchase this year. I have wanted a new Dyson for a couple of years now & am interested in their technology. |
Post# 261889 , Reply# 24   1/5/2014 at 07:46 (3,735 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 261893 , Reply# 25   1/5/2014 at 08:32 (3,735 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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I am not sure if they are available in the UK, but you might try to hunt down some of LG's new bagless uprights. In Consumer Reports testing, the LG Kompressor LuV350p actually performed better on carpets than any of the Dysons. Here is CR's summary of the vac's test results:
"Superb carpet cleaning makes this Kompressor model one of the best bagless uprights for carpets. You also get excellent bare-floor cleaning, along with a brush on/off switch (to safeguard bare floors and prevent scattered debris). And sure to its name, a revolving blade compresses what's in the bin for added capacity and easier emptying--though emptying a bagless vac's bin can be a dusty, messy chore. And airflow for tools was only mediocre. Among upright brands, LG has consistently been among the top performers over the past several years. High Points • Excels at removing embedded dirt from carpets • Performs well when cleaning bare floors, ideal for kitchens, bathrooms, and hardwood floors • Does well at picking up pet hair, useful if you have a cat or dog • Excels at capturing all the dust it picks up, important if you have allergies or other respiratory illnesses • Has a brush on/off switch, which safeguards bare floors and prevents scattering of dust and debris Low Points • Requires manually emptying the bin, which can be messy and sometimes presents problems for those with allergies or other respiratory issues • Lacks a manual pile-height adjustment, which is better than automatic systems at matching the brush to the surface • Lacks suction control, which helps protect drapes when using tools • Maneuvering with swivel head feels heavy on the wrist " |
Post# 261898 , Reply# 26   1/5/2014 at 09:20 (3,735 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 261905 , Reply# 28   1/5/2014 at 10:02 (3,735 days old) by Adamthemieleman (North Yorkshire )   |   | |
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I hope it comes to the UK, it and the cylinders look brilliant, much better than some of the rubbish we have at the moment. I don't think it will be cheap Ry, it's $400 which in our money is around £300,not cheap and definitely in Dyson territory. |
Post# 262120 , Reply# 29   1/6/2014 at 14:09 (3,734 days old) by keiththomas (Northumberland, England)   |   | |
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Well Interesting what about Morphy Richards Uprights like below
www.morphyrichards.co.uk/products... www.morphyrichards.co.uk/products... I tried the globe and was not impressed it blew air out of the front of the machine which took longer to vacuum the dust particles at currys I would be £60.00 Not £119.00 they were asking for. Interested in your View Guys |
Post# 262206 , Reply# 30   1/7/2014 at 04:46 (3,733 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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The Morphy Richards Lift Away is based on the U.S Shark Navigator and seems to be very popular. Roger from You Tube (he is known as Sensotronic on here) has done a superb video review of that model.
However I'd like to see if it can fit under a bed, like the Vax Mach Air can, and I don't like the look of the MR Lift Away, but that's down to personal reasons.
I'm surprised that the Hoover "blew out dust" though as it has an additional filter above the motor and demo models are notorious for being abused. As a previous Which member and subscriber, don't believe in everything that Which promise or print - they boost particular Miele vacuums by individual model numbers and slate other Miele vacuums from the same range just because of a different floor head design or filter...
Also end of the day you only get 2 year guarantee with the MR products compared to others.
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Post# 262230 , Reply# 31   1/7/2014 at 09:47 (3,733 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)   |   | |
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I have the purple version of the MR it grooms the carpet really well and isn't too noisy it actually has a very nice sounding motor. For an upright it does well on hard floor too, downsides for me are the short hose but you are supposed to lift the main unit off the floorhead and carry it when you are dusting but I find that inconvenient. Also the filter gets dirty very quickly as it is only a single cyclone. I posted on another thread that Vax have now brought out a similar model now, it's on the Argos website and that has multiple cyclones and a longer hose but it is pricey at the moment.
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Post# 262265 , Reply# 32   1/7/2014 at 14:04 (3,733 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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Is TriStar or Filter Queen still available in the UK? Both will outperform ANY bagless "plasti-vac" |
Post# 262647 , Reply# 33   1/10/2014 at 05:27 (3,730 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 262662 , Reply# 34   1/10/2014 at 10:18 (3,730 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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I dont think any bagless is better than a Dyson, as if you want something like a Dyson, it's gotta be a Dyson. Dyson is a much reliable vac. Why not get a Refurbished Dyson like what George mentioned? (Dysondestijl) |
Post# 262671 , Reply# 35   1/10/2014 at 11:28 (3,730 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 262761 , Reply# 36   1/11/2014 at 05:36 (3,729 days old) by keiththomas (Northumberland, England)   |   | |
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Hi well, I have decided for now to stick with what I got, I had another look at Bagless Machines, I did see a Hoover Jazz for £95.00 in currys that I may go for but will need a test drive or look again at the Hoover Globe at £119.00. or Hoover Turbo Power red oat £130.00 Argos are also selling a Bissell for £49.00 but it has a terrible reputation being noisey and lets dust back into the room, pipes not great. Pity Hoover Ceased manufacturing in the UK. Vax I had a look at and many I do not like as has car filters with fail after a few uses. Tesco are selling a cheap and nasty for £37.00 but i will not bother so it could be a Jazz or a Panasonic perhaps or soi it a Dyson when the price drops. I was thinking of Morphy richards the Dyson look like not the shark as I do not like it to be honest
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Post# 262762 , Reply# 37   1/11/2014 at 05:38 (3,729 days old) by keiththomas (Northumberland, England)   |   | |
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Hi well, I have decided for now to stick with what I got, I had another look at Bagless Machines, I did see a Hoover Jazz for £95.00 in currys that I may go for but will need a test drive or look again at the Hoover Globe at £119.00. or Hoover Turbo Power red oat £130.00 Argos are also selling a Bissell for £49.00 but it has a terrible reputation being noisey and lets dust back into the room, pipes not great. Pity Hoover Ceased manufacturing in the UK. Vax I had a look at and many I do not like as has car filters with fail after a few uses. Tesco are selling a cheap and nasty for £37.00 but i will not bother so it could be a Jazz or a Panasonic perhaps or soi it a Dyson when the price drops. I was thinking of Morphy richards the Dyson look like not the shark as I do not like it to be honest
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Post# 262779 , Reply# 38   1/11/2014 at 10:37 (3,729 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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IM quite surprised at your response. You seemed to be of the mind that Hoover wasn't good enough for you - what has changed now?
You've been given quite a few brands and a few choices here, yet at the same time when relying on "reputation" how are you basing your decisions?
As far as I'm concerned, all bagless vacs chuck dirt back into the room. But then that's my opinion after owning so many. |
Post# 262970 , Reply# 39   1/12/2014 at 06:39 (3,728 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Dyson actually has the best filtration out of any bagless vacuum! |
Post# 262990 , Reply# 40   1/12/2014 at 09:22 (3,728 days old) by keiththomas (Northumberland, England)   |   | |
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Well I forget to mention I see yesterday an off for £99.99 at Tesco a Vax and at Argos a Vax Mach Air they claim reduced from £199.99 to £99.99. I will see if that is any good. The one at Argos has grey and purple plastic the one at Tesco a Grey Orange and darker plastic. Like everything chinese made but comes with a 6 year warranty. Yes Dyson I know as have two dyson a cylinder and cordless DC34, good machines and the five year parts and labour warranty is good, But the upright is used a lot less but it will be changed at some point.
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Post# 262996 , Reply# 43   1/12/2014 at 10:22 (3,728 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()   |   | |
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I agree with Steve - the 2 motors work really well. The amount of dust sucked up out of carpets with the brush was more so tan the Hoover Urepower. |
Post# 262997 , Reply# 44   1/12/2014 at 10:23 (3,728 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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tan the Hoover Urepower Hilo? |
Post# 262999 , Reply# 45   1/12/2014 at 10:30 (3,728 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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Here's my Mach Air Reach - I'd say its the one to go for |
Post# 263000 , Reply# 46   1/12/2014 at 10:35 (3,728 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 263166 , Reply# 47   1/13/2014 at 10:39 (3,727 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()   |   | |
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Purepower! oops |
Post# 263167 , Reply# 48   1/13/2014 at 10:40 (3,727 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()   |   | |
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Than the Hoover Purepower! oops again. Bloody iPad. |
Post# 263179 , Reply# 50   1/13/2014 at 12:36 (3,727 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()   |   | |
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I have an Acer C710 Chromebook which is great for what I want it for. I will be upgrading to an iPad Mini from the 4th Generation soon though. My Dad still uses a desktop however. |
Post# 263184 , Reply# 51   1/13/2014 at 13:19 (3,727 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 263188 , Reply# 53   1/13/2014 at 13:48 (3,727 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 263450 , Reply# 54   1/15/2014 at 13:40 (3,725 days old) by keiththomas (Northumberland, England)   |   | |
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Post# 263456 , Reply# 55   1/15/2014 at 14:33 (3,725 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)   |   | |
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It's clear you want a dyson so you might just be better off with a dyson :) |
Post# 263484 , Reply# 56   1/15/2014 at 16:54 (3,725 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Keith - what problems are there? The only thing "small" on the Vax Mach Air Reach is the dust bin = all of 1.5 litres and there's 200 air watts.
Now the cheapest Dyson upright that is selling at Currys UK is the DC25 with 220 air watts, a far heavier weight and a smaller dust bin capacity of 1.38 litres. It also has 7.5 metres cord length compared to the 12 metres length on the Vax Reach and 220 air watts. At 87dbl, the Dyson is also noisier than the 71bdl Vax and yet they both have the same motor. Clearly what you think might be small might actually be bigger than you think! CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK |
Post# 263505 , Reply# 59   1/15/2014 at 18:29 (3,725 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()   |   | |
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You mean the Hoover Eco-G Steve? |
Post# 263515 , Reply# 61   1/15/2014 at 19:35 (3,725 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 263646 , Reply# 63   1/16/2014 at 22:33 (3,724 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I have considered this model time and time again - but it wasn't until I came on here that I read messages from actual owners where this model and a few from the range are not as well built as they should be.
The other downside for me is that dust bags for this model are hard to get unless you shop exclusively online. Our local Currys used to stock the bags for this model but not any more. |
Post# 263718 , Reply# 65   1/17/2014 at 15:30 (3,723 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()   |   | |
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So I shouldn't get this then? |
Post# 263727 , Reply# 67   1/17/2014 at 16:12 (3,723 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()   |   | |
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It's just that it's 72% recycled plastic but it should be durable enough I would have thought. |
Post# 263786 , Reply# 68   1/17/2014 at 20:20 (3,723 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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You will keep believing in stuff that brands want you to believe, Hi-Lo.
Personally I wouldn't bother with the UltraOne. I was very attracted to them when they first came out - I tried one at Currys and loved how super silent the motor was - even quieter than Miele at the lowest rate. But, the tools aren't as well made even if Electrolux's excellent Butterfly tool is included. One of my friends has an Ultra One and of course I got a chance to play with it. The biggest problem I had was opening the bin door - there seems to be a knack of opening it but it is always tough and too near the main carry handle. The first time I tried it, I didn't want to exert pressure as the bin and the handle were too close. Also the handle to the top suction tube has a press button release but it has a feeble action, often at times just able to pull the handle up and it slips out the top regardless of the button push - something to do with the plastics I guess. When my friend laughed at how old fashioned my old SEBO K1 looked, she wasn't laughing when she realised it is far better made and offered to swap - but I wouldn't dream of swapping any German vac from the Miele or SEBO stables for the UltraOne series. I've also read reviews on the UltraOne where the cord length may be longer than Miele but has trouble rewinding back in. |
Post# 264094 , Reply# 69   1/19/2014 at 14:25 (3,721 days old) by keiththomas (Northumberland, England)   |   | |
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Post# 264408 , Reply# 71   1/21/2014 at 19:04 (3,719 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Well, HiLO as I said, after sampling one for real and noted of the design imperfections, outwith that and that fact that the dust bags for the model are also hard to get. My friend gets hers online. Meanwhile I do like shopping online don't get me wrong but if I make a special visit to John Lewis where all my Miele filters and bags, not to mention SEBO bits are available, I'd expect JL to stock in the bags for the AEG but apparently it hasn't been much of a good seller.
In my opinion if you are going to stump up cash for a premium cylinder vac, it should be a Miele and for a bigger home, SEBO. |
Post# 264744 , Reply# 72   1/25/2014 at 17:39 (3,715 days old) by ManchesterVacs (Manchester)   |   | |
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Keith,
We have a Dyson shop as many here know. We sell recon machines. No need to spend £300. We do a re-manufactured DC07 with a year guarantee that we have never had a single one back of (also have parts to do a lime green DC04 that is mostly new). Almost everything is new on them, except the outer casings. We really go to town on them. Link is below to the page if the mods allow it.
On the subject of Vax, let me tell you a view from within the trade: People bring us Vax machines in every day of the week to repair (although it only says Dyson outside - but that's people), they are like a cheap Dyson knock off. The parts are expensive, the engineering is dreadful, parts are a pain to look up, much is unavailable, and for us, most are not economical repairs. We tell customers that Vax is a disposable machine - that's why they are cheap. When they break, unless something very simple, simply bin them and get a better machine. There is a reason why they are cheap! Added to which, they are a total pain to strip down.
A Dyson - an older one - is like a Morris Minor. You can always fix them, everything is available (excepting the DC01) and they are a proper thing. Everything else bagless is just a copy of a Dyson.
Vax fans - flame away!
NB: The photo below is one we recently sent to Sweden. CLICK HERE TO GO TO ManchesterVacs's LINK |
Post# 264793 , Reply# 75   1/26/2014 at 04:50 (3,714 days old) by ManchesterVacs (Manchester)   |   | |
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Post# 264798 , Reply# 77   1/26/2014 at 05:28 (3,714 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )   |   | |
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the vax is a dyson wannabe, personally I cant stand any other bag less then a dyson, I dont do cheap knock offs its either the real thing or nothing, Im what you would call a vacuum snob, I think what ManchesterVacs is doing is good, as some people cant afford a dyson at full price can get the opportunity to get one practically new, also ManchesterVacs, I wouldn't admit a dislike for something on here, for some reason unless its a dyson hate no one will like it.
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Post# 264805 , Reply# 79   1/26/2014 at 06:36 (3,714 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )   |   | |
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Post# 264807 , Reply# 80   1/26/2014 at 07:00 (3,714 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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Post# 264809 , Reply# 81   1/26/2014 at 07:05 (3,714 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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Post# 264810 , Reply# 82   1/26/2014 at 07:07 (3,714 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Post# 264812 , Reply# 84   1/26/2014 at 07:31 (3,714 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Post# 264813 , Reply# 85   1/26/2014 at 07:33 (3,714 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )   |   | |
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Post# 264819 , Reply# 87   1/26/2014 at 09:50 (3,714 days old) by ManchesterVacs (Manchester)   |   | |
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Post# 264821 , Reply# 88   1/26/2014 at 09:53 (3,714 days old) by keiththomas (Northumberland, England)   |   | |
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Well the Trouble as with all products firms copy each other. Sadly the make things cheaper and cheaper has resulted the marked flooded with poor quality items. I may decide in the end to go for eather.
1) A Third Dyson, but Upright 2) Hoover Turbo Power No loss of Suction. I saw a Zanuusi which is copying the Colour of the First Dyson. The Chinese knock off made by a Third Party but owned by Electrolux. |
Post# 264822 , Reply# 89   1/26/2014 at 09:54 (3,714 days old) by keiththomas (Northumberland, England)   |   | |
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Well the Trouble as with all products firms copy each other. Sadly the make things cheaper and cheaper has resulted the marked flooded with poor quality items. I may decide in the end to go for eather.
1) A Third Dyson, but Upright 2) Hoover Turbo Power No loss of Suction. I saw a Zanuusi which is copying the Colour of the First Dyson. The Chinese knock off made by a Third Party but owned by Electrolux. |
Post# 264823 , Reply# 90   1/26/2014 at 09:57 (3,714 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()   |   | |
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The Hoover Turbo Power Upright would be a good choice, they're about £124.99 when on offer so a good price, plus they have a 12m cord & 4.5m hose plus a 5 year guarantee too. |
Post# 264829 , Reply# 91   1/26/2014 at 11:46 (3,714 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Yes HiLo but the Turbo Power or Jazz type uprights are heavy. The Vax Mach Air Reach rules supreme because of its size, agility and compactness - sorry but it does.
Keith, the main problem here is that whilst your opinion outlines what most members know about Chinese built bagless vacuums, the only other alternatives are to consider vintage vacuums or go down the premium bagged vacuum cleaner route. That's where you will find a better separation of things that aren't so copied, even if premium brands like Bosch, Miele and SEBO all use Wessel Werk floor heads. Other European brands are beginning to use the same as a way to up the ante in quality tools. End of the day a few members including I have suggested the Vax Mach Air Reach model. Clearly, it offers something better than all the rest; the brand also have more widespread spares than Hoover do with their bagless parts required. Vax also still have their 6 year guarantee as the final bonus for any buyer. Also these vacuums are all merely machines. They're designed to offer the vacuum cleaner principle for buyers, NOT Collectors, You can't change what the brands are doing in so far as producing what they are doing per spec, but as a buyer you have the option to check out what you want. Finally, I must refer to your "occasional use" phrase. If it was the case that you were really up for a Dyson for occasional use, then give it a second thought. I think you would be asking for too much with an "alternative to a Dyson," where originality is concerned and where bagless, cyclonic filters are different from one to the next. If you have the money, what's stopping you from buying a Dyson?? They're not all £300 - the latest price slash on the DC25 upright is £219 FROM £299. Or a refurbished Dyson? Either way, if you are serious about buying something for occasional use, you need a simple design that is going to perform well. ALL of the bagless alternatives can do that, but there are some which are better designed than others. You just need to put in the research to know the difference and be prepared to put up with compromise. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK |
Post# 265930 , Reply# 92   2/3/2014 at 14:19 (3,706 days old) by keiththomas (Northumberland, England)   |   | |
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Well, Looks like my old yellow friend is starting to go now eg the pedal has started to click and saw black parts on the floor. I looked at MAnchester Vacs but they sell a Machine not a Dyson for £129.99 claim it is under Hoover in Australia. But looks a copy of Vax. Once I have new carpets fitted new week. See how i get on
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Post# 265935 , Reply# 93   2/3/2014 at 14:41 (3,706 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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