Thread Number: 2328
Calling Charles - Richard. Calling Charles - Richard---
[Down to Last]

Vacuumland's exclusive eBay Watch:
scroll >>> for more items --- [As an eBay Partner, eBay may compensate vacuumland.org if you make a purchase using any link to eBay on this page]
Post# 25439   11/27/2007 at 18:24 (5,986 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        

In a way, I hope the answer to this question is no! That Universal Vacuum that you got with the display unit (VC-6700)from the retiring Vacuum shop, is it Hammertone Blue? This is my ultimate DREAM machine, and in the event that I actually acquire one, I want to be ready. (Mentally) The reason for this mental preparedness? I just received an E-bay Kenmore rocket vacuum (you know the style) I don't know the model number. After an initial clean-up of the unit for storage until restoration resumes this spring on eight more machines, I discovered the damn thing is hammertone brownish. GREAT! the most challenging (to me) finish to duplicate and I have yet another one. The Nameplate on the Kenmore is copper, however, (looks really cool)! This machine stands in line now with a Rexair,and a Lewyt 77 Big wheel. So, if you could be so kind as to tell me that your Universal is not Hammertone, I would appreciate it.

Post# 25445 , Reply# 1   11/27/2007 at 23:28 (5,986 days old) by charles~richard ()        

The blue Universals (there were two different ones) did NOT have a blue hammertone finish; it's a smooth metallic finish.

You can, btw, get Hammertone spray paint in a variety of colors. I've seen it in turquoisey-blue, gray, silver, gold, red, brown, black and copper. Darned thing is that "Electrolux Blue" apparently was a special color mixed up at the factory; the blue hammertone available in spray paint is much brighter and "bluier."

Granted, spray hammertone is not the same as the baked finish but if you practice with it, and get just the right touch, you can come close. The trick is to get the paint down in ONE thick layer -- overspraying greatly minimizes the hammertone look. The dicey part is spraying it thick enough to get the mottled effect without drips and runs. I practiced on cardboard boxes, and before I'd start painting a vacuum cleaner I'd do some brush-up practicing.


Post# 25451 , Reply# 2   11/28/2007 at 06:02 (5,986 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
Thank Goodness!!!

My Lux AE turned out OK, but I'm not super pleased with it, and I will most likely do it one more time before moving on to the other machines. But thanks for the info. Now I just have to get the Universal!

Post# 25488 , Reply# 3   11/28/2007 at 22:03 (5,985 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        
Kenmore?

hygiene903's profile picture
By the way Rick, I'd like to hear more about your Kenmore "rocket," or as I call it, "torpedo tank." Is it the regular tank model, or is it a "Kenkart?" What color is the dome, handle, and side trim? Did you get attachments with it or just the vac?
I have a regular "torpedo tank," model 116.730. The "dome, handle, and side trim are all burgandy, as are the attachments. Hose is replacement, wands are original. It runs pretty good and makes that characteristic "prrrrrrreeeeeen" sound when you fire it up. My folks had one just like it when I was little that they used in the basement and to clean out the cars.
Jeff


Post# 25490 , Reply# 4   11/29/2007 at 05:05 (5,985 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
It's a

Dark brown-ish hammertone. The dome and stripe are a light tan. I shoved it up in the attic as soon as I got it, should have looked at the model number! It came with a rug tool, two wands, and badly beaten up hose, but all appear to be original. No, it is not a KenKart. The handle, and switch lever are dark brown, as is the cord.

Post# 25506 , Reply# 5   11/29/2007 at 12:57 (5,985 days old) by charles~richard ()        

I have seen many varieties of the Commander over the years, and I mean just in terms of color schemes and not on the cart or off the cart!

Brown wrinkle finish - polished 'nose' & trim
Smooth tan finish - dark brown nose & trim
Smooth tan finish - polished nose, dark brown trim
maroon finish - dark maroon nose & trim
maroon finish - polished nose & maroon trim
turquoise finish - polished nose & dark turquise trim
Gray hammertone finish - polished nose & chromed trim



Post# 25509 , Reply# 6   11/29/2007 at 14:00 (5,985 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
Commander, that's it!

I will have to post a picture of this unit. So far, it's none of the above!

Post# 25529 , Reply# 7   11/29/2007 at 22:55 (5,984 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        
Think I've Got It Figured Out!

hygiene903's profile picture
The light tan color on the dome and side trim indicate that it's older than mine. Yours probably doesn't have the door over the exhaust like mine does either. It would be interesting if someone had some kind of chart or list showing what models were made when and the color schemes.
I'm not positive, but I think the silver/gray ones were first, turquoise was last, and everything else was somewhere in between.
Jeff


Post# 25531 , Reply# 8   11/30/2007 at 01:51 (5,984 days old) by charles~richard ()        

I'm pretty sure that all of mine have the exhaust door except for the cart versions. But I'll have to look again to make sure.

I do love the sound of this machine -- like none other, expecially the "burrrrrit" when it starts up.





Post# 25536 , Reply# 9   11/30/2007 at 05:38 (5,984 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
That's right,

No door, just a hole in the back. I promise to get pics soon. Maybe today! Rick.

Post# 25561 , Reply# 10   11/30/2007 at 16:24 (5,983 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
O.K. !! Enough already!! If you guys

Promise to leave me alone......LOL....It is a model 116.722.1 And, if these work here's some pics

Post# 25562 , Reply# 11   11/30/2007 at 16:25 (5,983 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
2

copper-nice touch.

Post# 25564 , Reply# 12   11/30/2007 at 16:27 (5,983 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
3

just a blow hole

Post# 25566 , Reply# 13   11/30/2007 at 16:31 (5,983 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
4

Bottom of unit

Post# 25567 , Reply# 14   11/30/2007 at 16:32 (5,983 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
5

Little thingy that holds the front end of the ground

Post# 25569 , Reply# 15   11/30/2007 at 16:36 (5,983 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
Last

In hopes you could see the Hammertone, but camera no good for hammertone. Cord bad too. (as soon as I stop talking like a caveman, the picture will come up)

Post# 25576 , Reply# 16   11/30/2007 at 17:15 (5,983 days old) by charles~richard ()        

but camera no good for hammertone.

Especially since that's not hammertone! Hammertone paint has a very pronounced "mottled" look as opposed to wrinkle finish or textured enamel.



Post# 25579 , Reply# 17   11/30/2007 at 17:43 (5,983 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
Ah, but it is....

It's very faint. What you see in the pictures is surface rust and crud. The nose is not Hammered, nor is the side trim. But the body is very much hammered. Just as the Lewyt has those big "imperfections" in the finish, and how the Lux model E, AE, are about medium sized, These are very slight, but again, definitely Hammered. I have been in the paint and coatings industry since 1970, so I had a few sources to turn to when researching the hammered finish. I discovered that at least in modern consumer-applied finishes, the addition of silicone to the vehicle of the coating is what imparts the hammered look. It is a defect in the finish, a DESIRED defect. Controlling it, however, it not available to me at a non-production level. The products available at the local paint stores are designed for a specific purpose, Rust prevention in the case of this finish, therefore, the product is loaded with all sorts of additives that make it thick, and very difficult to use for a decorative coating. As you know, Lux and the others in the production facilities no doubt had products made for their use and then the product was baked on. I'll just have to do what I can to replicate this finish! But luckily, that won't be until spring!! Or next year, or the next!!!LOL

Post# 25601 , Reply# 18   12/31/2069 at 18:00 (19,831 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        
That's It!

hygiene903's profile picture
That's just the one I thought you had from your description. Think it was the model right before mine. I believe the silver/gray was first, then yours, then mine, then the ones with the polished dome,and finally the turquoise. I think mine was made around 1950-52, so yours could possibly be from the late 40's.
Jeff


Post# 25603 , Reply# 19   12/1/2007 at 05:56 (5,983 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
Jeff,

Glad you liked the pics. With any luck, I'll have it done by convention time '08. I did plug this unit in and fire it up, unfortunately, I'm not getting the unique sound you guys are describing. I'm getting more of a "shifting into reverse while doing seventy" type sound right now. But it does run. When you handle the machine, you can hear chips of metal or rust flakes dancing around inside. Seems this one might be like my Jet99, or Lux AE. But that's the way I like 'em!! Thanks for the help guys!!!


Forum Index:       Other Forums:                      



Comes to the Rescue!

Woops, Time to Check the Bag!!!
Either you need to change your vacuum bag or you forgot to LOG-IN?

Discuss-O-MAT Log-In



New Members
Click Here To Sign Up.



                     


automaticwasher.org home
Discuss-o-Mat Forums
Vintage Brochures, Service and Owners Manuals
Fun Vintage Washer Ephemera
See It Wash!
Video Downloads
Audio Downloads
Picture of the Day
Patent of the Day
Photos of our Collections
The Old Aberdeen Farm
Vintage Service Manuals
Vintage washer/dryer/dishwasher to sell?
Technical/service questions?
Looking for Parts?
Website related questions?
Digital Millennium Copyright Act Policy
Our Privacy Policy