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Post# 259390   12/13/2013 at 16:30 (3,783 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Good evening VLers! 

 

This morning my latest acquisition arrived, and it is a vacuum I have been wishing to purchase for over a year.  Yes, it is a Junior 119!

 

I literally have done nothing to it other than to take it out of the box, put it together and remove the old belt which was moulded into the motor pulley and had obviously been used whilst stuck there as it had a massive chunk worn out where it sat on the pulley.

 

I plan on cleaning it up and checking that it works tomorrow morning (best to let the gin wear off before attempting any electrical maintenance!) but for now I'll post a photo of it so you guys can take a look and maybe give some background information on the particular model I have.

 

Unfortunately I think the bag is generic as it states "THE JUNIOR CLEANER" on it rather than "HOOVER", but it is a bit much to ask to get a 1950s vacuum with the original bag - especially when the purchase price is £9!

 

Bye for now folks.


Post# 259436 , Reply# 1   12/14/2013 at 02:19 (3,783 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

It looks like a refurbished model - the 119 was a different colour - that looks more like the 1224, colour wise, but the 1224 had blue trim.

I am sure it will look lovely once you have done it up - much like your Ranger lol


Post# 259440 , Reply# 2   12/14/2013 at 02:55 (3,783 days old) by hoover119dude (england)        

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Here is mine. As i am trying to find collectors who would like to give homes to my cleaners i might sell this. Not sure yet.

Post# 259452 , Reply# 3   12/14/2013 at 07:22 (3,783 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Yes Steve I did think it may be a refurbished model, which is fine by me - it's still a Hoover through and through Smile

 

I have now taken it apart ready for cleaning and currently have the bag soaking in a bath of warm water and laundry detergent.  Whether it is the original one or not, it is in superb condition with not a single nick or piece of wear to the lettering - so I'm more than happy with it.

 

One thing that did please me was that, despite the aforementioned wear, it was actually a Genuine Hoover belt!! 

 

 


Post# 259453 , Reply# 4   12/14/2013 at 07:36 (3,783 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Here it is, just the bare cleaning head with no brush roll, belt cover or, well, belt!  I will try and gain access to the motor later though as I think the bearing could go with some greasing.  It doesn't feel rough to turn, but it doesn't feel smooth either - if you know what I mean.


Post# 259454 , Reply# 5   12/14/2013 at 07:42 (3,783 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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The belt cover, which I think I will leave when it comes to re-painting as I could never reproduce those decals.


Post# 259455 , Reply# 6   12/14/2013 at 07:43 (3,783 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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And the pieces (minus the brushroll) I shall be cleaning now.


Post# 259459 , Reply# 7   12/14/2013 at 09:58 (3,783 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

The drivebelts are one of the main reasons I don't use my vintage Hoovers as much as I would like - they chew belts up like there is no tomorrow. Its worst with the Juniors that use the round belts like you show.


Post# 259463 , Reply# 8   12/14/2013 at 10:31 (3,783 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

My 119:

Post# 259466 , Reply# 9   12/14/2013 at 10:38 (3,783 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Indeed Steve, however the reason the belt becomes damaged as was shown on my Junior 119 is because it actually started slipping and "sat" on the motor pulley as it was turning.

 

If you change your belts as soon as they start slipping then all you have to worry about is them snapping spontaneously which, admittedly, does happen, but not as often (in my experience) as them slipping and consequentially burning up.

 

I shall go and take the handles and belt cover out of the bath now and dry them, but any further restoration will be put forward to tomorrow I think as I'm done in now after putting the Christmas decorations up (the wine hasn't helped either!).

 

Would you believe I haven't even tested if the motor works yet!  I suppose I'd better do that before I go into greasing bearings or anything like that. 

 

 


Post# 259481 , Reply# 10   12/14/2013 at 14:51 (3,782 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Very nice Jamie! The 119 is a brilliant machine, I'll have to get one someday. One thing I am puzzled by is the colour, did Hoover ever make 119s in this colour? or would it have been painted when refurbished?


Post# 259490 , Reply# 11   12/14/2013 at 16:29 (3,782 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Colour

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It was repainted, the cleaner shown by Hoover119dude is in the original colours. Its a lovely machine, I would not be thinking of selling it if it were mine

Post# 259491 , Reply# 12   12/14/2013 at 16:32 (3,782 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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A real diamond in the rough aye, Jamie ;)

No, but cool find. :P


Post# 259553 , Reply# 13   12/15/2013 at 07:27 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Well here comes the pictorial restoration! Or at least most of it (I have yet to complete it, for reasons I'll state later).

 

Here is the bag as it came in from the washing line last night, all cleaned and dry.


Post# 259555 , Reply# 14   12/15/2013 at 07:36 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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The first thing I did this morning was to remove the ratings plate, and boy was it dusty inside!  I have a feeling it hasn't been removed since it was refurbished probably back in the 1980s(?).


Post# 259556 , Reply# 15   12/15/2013 at 07:44 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Closer shot of the antique dust!


Post# 259557 , Reply# 16   12/15/2013 at 07:49 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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With a little help from a much newer Hoover the dust was no more...


Post# 259558 , Reply# 17   12/15/2013 at 07:53 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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No dust!


Post# 259559 , Reply# 18   12/15/2013 at 07:58 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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The fan is metal and although is has obviously seen some use, it has sustained no damage.


Post# 259564 , Reply# 19   12/15/2013 at 08:27 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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The Hoover engraving on the fan.


Post# 259567 , Reply# 20   12/15/2013 at 08:32 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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The main body with fan & commutator removed.


Post# 259573 , Reply# 21   12/15/2013 at 09:25 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Here is the fan and commutator removed.


Post# 259574 , Reply# 22   12/15/2013 at 10:11 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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As you can see the carbon brushes still have a fair bit of life left, though I will try and source a new set soon to have as spares.


Post# 259576 , Reply# 23   12/15/2013 at 10:26 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Here is the new belt and the old one - some difference!


Post# 259577 , Reply# 24   12/15/2013 at 10:30 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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The new belt wasn't actually as hard to fit as is usual with those round belt Hoovers.


Post# 259578 , Reply# 25   12/15/2013 at 10:40 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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All cleaned and ready to go back together...


Post# 259579 , Reply# 26   12/15/2013 at 10:47 (3,781 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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The rating plate (which literally IS a plate on this model).


Post# 259582 , Reply# 27   12/15/2013 at 11:10 (3,781 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Model and serial number.  I notice the prefix of the serial number on this model begins with a K instead of a J, is there any reason for that?  Perhaps that was exclusive to the refurbished models?


Post# 259584 , Reply# 28   12/15/2013 at 11:18 (3,781 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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The bumper is in very good condition with only slight marks on the corners from skirting boards etc...


Post# 259587 , Reply# 29   12/15/2013 at 11:32 (3,781 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Front of bumper.


Post# 259589 , Reply# 30   12/15/2013 at 11:44 (3,781 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Right bumper.


Post# 259592 , Reply# 31   12/15/2013 at 12:02 (3,781 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Fortunately the brush strips are in very good condition and don't need replacing.


Post# 259594 , Reply# 32   12/15/2013 at 12:22 (3,781 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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As is common with these old models the rubber seal on the fan housing partially fell off when I took the fan out so I expect some whistling when in use, but at some point I'll buy some sealant and do a proper job.


Post# 259595 , Reply# 33   12/15/2013 at 12:27 (3,781 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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The seal again...


Post# 259596 , Reply# 34   12/15/2013 at 12:33 (3,781 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I suppose it could have been worse - at least none of it disintegrated!


Post# 259598 , Reply# 35   12/15/2013 at 12:38 (3,781 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Now here is where I would normally post a picture of it all back together and ready to test out, but only I can't.

 

Why?  Because when I went to put the handles on I discovered that the nut for the upper handle has gone missing. 

 

I had it last night with all the other bits and pieces but when I went to get it today it was nowhere to be found.  I've searched high and low but to no avail.

 

As a result, I am completely clueless as to how I am going to get this cleaner going.  Any suggestions?


Post# 259610 , Reply# 36   12/15/2013 at 15:28 (3,781 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Panic over!  I finally found the missing nut and have assembled the 119 and rewired the plug (plus fitted a 3 amp fuse to replace the 13 amp in there - big surprise) so tomorrow morning I'll test it out for the first time.

 

The dilemma I have at the moment is when I come to re-paint it should I spray it the same colour silver it currently has or try to return it to gold, bearing in mind I'd never be able to reproduce the original decals on the belt cover? 

 

I haven't even tested the motor yet though, so I suppose I'd better wait until I do that before thinking too much into it!  Knowing my luck it won't even run.


Post# 259708 , Reply# 37   12/16/2013 at 15:55 (3,780 days old) by mjm0424 (Chicago suburbs)        
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I have a few of these machines. They are one of the best little workhorses I've ever seen.I do maintaince work on apt complexes,& have one in almost every building I work at. They are the BEST for stairs,& what a backsaver,compaired to using a canister vac.I've never worked on one that didn't have all of the dirt by the electrical works,when I got it.Good luck on your restoration. Gold or dark brown would look good on the base.As for selling them-I would wait,who knows what they will be worth in the future? I have many vintage pieces in my home,&quite a few vintage vacs. I have one friend who is constantly ragging at me about clutter. I tell him to shut up because this is my retirement.His 401 may tank,but my hoover #65 will still be worth something.


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