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Post# 257589 , Reply# 1 11/25/2013 at 21:29 (3,802 days old) by KirbyClassicIII  (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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| Post# 257590 , Reply# 2 11/25/2013 at 21:51 (3,802 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 257592 , Reply# 3 11/25/2013 at 22:00 (3,802 days old) by vacuumfreak95 (Aransas Pass, Tx) | ||
Panasonic MC-CG902 canister. | ||
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Post# 257605 , Reply# 4 11/26/2013 at 00:50 (3,802 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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I agree with the Panasonic MC-CG902 canister above. No matter the job, it has the tools for it all and is quiet and easy to use!!!
On board tools for every task. Low profile power nozzle fits under beds and low lying furniture. Bare floor brush easily connects to wands for total bare floor cleaning. Free shipping and less than $200 from this trusted vendor below. 1 machine does everything. You don't need 2!!!! CLICK HERE TO GO TO Durango159's LINK 
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| Post# 257657 , Reply# 7 11/26/2013 at 14:26 (3,801 days old) by mieles7 (TX) | ||
I'd look around for a used Riccar 8900 upright if you go that route. The metal brushrolls on those are amazing on carpet and pet hair, and can be turned off for bare floors. Although some versions of that Riccar don't have on board tools, I'm pretty sure all variants of the 8900 have a port to attach an extended hose. On mine, I've never had to worry about pet hair wrapping around the brushroll due to the hair not being able to stick to the metal. I've seen these go from $50 to $180, depending on the condition and the model. I got really lucky and found mine for only $35, but I would be willing to pay five times that just because the vacuum works so well.
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| Post# 257658 , Reply# 8 11/26/2013 at 14:30 (3,801 days old) by jade_angel (Fort Collins, CO) | ||
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The Simplicity 6-series and 7-series are almost identical to the Riccar 8900, as well. The major difference between the 6 and 7 is that the 7 can turn off the brush roll, while the 6-series can't. | ||
| Post# 257661 , Reply# 9 11/26/2013 at 15:57 (3,801 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL) | ||
 I'm not a fan of participating in these types of threads but I think you should definitely check out a used Filter Queen. They clean literally everything, and they do a very good job at it. The crazy amount of suction paired with their awesome (in my opinion) bare floor tool works wonders on hard floors, and the power nozzles are pretty decent. You said you don't have very much carpet left, and I know for a fact that it'd do great on area rugs. They're also very easy to work on and easy to get parts for.
I've attached a link to a used Majestic on eBay for a Buy It Now price of $229, of course you could probably find them even cheaper than that...
Just a suggestion...
Chase CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacman117's LINK on eBay | ||
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Post# 257670 , Reply# 10 11/26/2013 at 17:24 (3,801 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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 Since you have very little carpeting but lots of furniture, you need a good canister vacuum. The Panasonic and Filter Queen are nice but come with cheap generic attachments. I would suggest something along the lines of a Sebo, but those run way over $200. Take a look into a refurbished Aerus Electrolux. Their attachments are excellent, especially the Sidekick which will really help with upholstery. You could easily get under the bed with the power nozzle, and it's L-shape helps with cleaning in-between chairs. I have a house very similar to what you describe and have been nothing but pleased with my Electrolux. | ||
| Post# 257674 , Reply# 11 11/26/2013 at 18:03 (3,801 days old) by dustin (Jackson, MI) | ||
I would recommend a used Tristar CXL- I have one and I can't believe what it pulls out of our carpets. You can fill the bags completely full and the filtration is excellent. Bags are inexpensive, as are the filters, you have the option of using a HEPA filter or a standard foam filter. I only have the standard filter, and it does just fine. The canister is all metal, and the power nozzle is excellent.
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| Post# 257681 , Reply# 12 11/26/2013 at 18:14 (3,801 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 257687 , Reply# 13 11/26/2013 at 19:26 (3,801 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
I would definitely recommend a pair of powerful yet easy to use vacs: the Hoover Platinum Lightweight Bagged upright for carpets, and the bottom of the line Miele Olympus S2120 canister for everything else. These two are very simple basic vacs that are designed well and perform their respective tasks very well! :-)
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| Post# 257705 , Reply# 15 11/27/2013 at 02:10 (3,801 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
Tristar would be an excellent option
A cxl or dxl would be a great choice. They have excellent airflow, and their tools are pretty nice as well.
If you wish to get something slightly newer i'd look into the EXL as far as i know it was the last tristar to use a dual stage motor, and as far as i can tell it has about 3x the airflow of the models using the VM3 motor (MG1 and MG2) It too has the L shaped nozzle but offers better deep cleaning than the electrolux nozzles due to it's weighted cover. They also offer the Ministar, which is a mini electric head meant for stairs and upholstery. | ||
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Post# 257753 , Reply# 16 11/27/2013 at 20:09 (3,800 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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Attachments
The Panasonic is still a perfect match as far as attachments go. The Panasonic has a full set of great on board tools. If you're not pleased with what's included then that's an easy fix. The hose has what we call a "Universal End." It will fit most any slide on other attachment from several manufacturers on the market to include many Hoover, Eureka, Dirt Devil, Riccar, generic, central vac tools, etc. The Panasonic also fits a mini power head known as the PowerMate Jr. that is found with many Kenmore machines.
Used Filter Queen, Electrolux and Tristars are nice, powerful machines. However they will only fit attachments specifically designed for those machines. Replacement tools if they break, would be expensive or for an older FilterQueen such as the one on eBay- it may only be an eBay find. That model power head and attachment set has been discontinued 10 years ago!! I myself have not been a fan of Electrolux tools. The floor brush is very small, the upholstery nozzle has adjustable plastic wings. There are no bristles or any form of agitation to remove fluff and hair from a surface with Electrolux/ Aerus upholstery nozzle!!! | ||
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Post# 257766 , Reply# 18 11/27/2013 at 22:24 (3,800 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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Panasonic vacs
The body style on that Panasonic model the MC-CG902 is a trusted design that originally showed up on Kenmores about 15 years ago. Since then Kenmores have changed to a cheaper design, but Panasonic has kept it as Panasonic basically manufactures the Kenmore line. Panasonic Kenmores have used the same bag locking system for years. I just looked over reviews on Homedepot website for it. It has 5 Stars from all 9 customer reviews. No mention of the bag issue below!!!
I just read the thread on this website about the bag issue with the filter and am completely dumbfounded by the situation!!! I have never heard or experienced that. I don't own that same model Panasonic but I have used numerous times the exact same design and had ZERO issues with it. If using the proper 5055 C paper bags or Q bags and installed properly with bag door shut right and I think its best to reinstall hose after changing bag then I think there should be no problems. Otherwise, other Panasonic MC-CG917, or MC-CG937 have a different designed bag system. I have friends that own the MC-CG917 and love it!! The MC-CG917 has a mini air turbine driven power head for upholstery along with a combination upholstery/ dusting brush. So it's a slightly different attachment set. Still has the Universal Fit hose so you can use several other possible attachments with the machine. The black and green trimmed MC-CG917 is pictured below. You'll notice that the power nozzle is the same design but suction unit is different! If you get canister power head system, I would get an extra set of wands for the bare floor attachment. This adds convenience and also puts far less wear and tear on the power nozzle wiring connections regardless if its a cord going up the wand or a quick release pedal. An extra set of wands--- could be various types will probably run about $20 and in the long run will prove very convenient. The fabulous thing about the power nozzle canister system is you'll have 1 machine to tackle all of your household chores rather than an upright strictly for carpets and a portable canister strictly for bare floors. So really an extra $20 or so for a separate set of wands for the bare floor brush is a tremendous savings over buying a second vacuum!!! Slightly higher price for the MC-CG917 at $236 but far less than buying 2 separate machines and still a great valued, powerful machine. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Durango159's LINK 
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| Post# 257768 , Reply# 19 11/27/2013 at 22:38 (3,800 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 257789 , Reply# 20 11/28/2013 at 02:41 (3,800 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 257792 , Reply# 21 11/28/2013 at 06:59 (3,799 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
First of ALL I LOVE these Kenmore vacuums
For me.....of the three Kenmore canisters that I had......the very last one I had was SKY BLUE with the quick disconnect.......I have NO CLUE why, but three PROPER bags slipped off the collar during cleaning and I had no idea it had slipped off until a week later when I opened the bin to check the bag.....It had slid 1/2 way OFF the collar (and I'm always very careful to install them properly, even OVERLY careful.) It was a mess so I cleaned the bin and filters and installed another bag.......that bag did the same thing.....I was baffled because this had never happened before with the previous 2 Kenmore can's....Nothing looked at all wrong with the collar system. When you slid the bag on, it was a tight snug fit.....clueless!
At any rate, from that point on, I slid the bag on the collar and put some tape to make sure it didn't slide off again and it didn't.... About the dust in the bin..It does happen.....Not as bad with the cloth bags as the paper, but even with the cloth there would be a fine layer of dust in the bin, on all the Kenmore can's I had......But not enough to stop using it. I loved those vacuums......I always used the cloth bags for the past couple of years of owning it. The Lux that I have now doesn't even use cloth bags, just the paper C type bags, and those don't leak in the bin AT ALL....so not sure what the difference is...Because the Kenmore bags felt as if they were much thicker than the C Lux bags I use. | ||
| Post# 257817 , Reply# 23 11/28/2013 at 14:01 (3,799 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania) | ||
If you're not opposed to having an upright, a fantastic choice is the new Hoover WindTunnel MAX Pet Plus. It has a 28' cord with a cord winder so you don't have to wrap up the cord when you're done vacuuming, the brushroll shuts off with the click of a pedal for use on bare floors, it features an onboard super stretchy hose, wand, crevice tool, a pet hair eraser upholstery tool with rubber fins instead of bristles to gently wipe hair away into the suction stream, and an onboard air powered turbo tool with a rubber spindle instead of a traditional brushroll, again to gently wipe fur into the suction stream. It also features a very large capacity, easy to empty dust cup.
For carpet cleaning, you really can't beat Hoover's patented WindTunnel technology. It focuses the suction to the front, middle, and back of the brushroll housing for constant and even suction across the entire nozzle. As mentioned above, the brushroll shuts off with the tap of your foot on an easy to reach pedal on the side of the nozzle. With the brushroll shut off, the concentrated suction will whisk pet hair, dust, and debris off your floors and into the sweeper. I would never recommend a product that I haven't used myself and wouldn't feel comfortable using in my own home. This machine is one of the best, if not the best, in its price range. And of course, Hoover was the original name in electric vacuum cleaners, and continues to be one of the leading brands today. Hope this helps! Matt CLICK HERE TO GO TO PoconoVacMan's LINK 
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| Post# 257833 , Reply# 24 11/28/2013 at 15:00 (3,799 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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If U decide to go for a power nozzle equipped canister (TriStar, Lux, Filter Queen etc) U can also buy a Wessel Werk HEB160 mini power brush. The HEB160 is motor powered so U don't lose cleaning performance like with turbo brushes that slow down as the bag fills CLICK HERE TO GO TO floor-a-matic's LINK | ||
| Post# 257858 , Reply# 25 11/29/2013 at 02:10 (3,799 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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The thing is Katie, you're always going to have to deal with cleaning hair off the brush roll if you own pets. I'm not aware of any powered pet nozzles, although I'm sure there are a few in the U.S - I tend to find that whilst turbo brushes are fine for removing hair, a static lint upholstery tool is just as effective and far more versatile, especially if cleaning hair from fabrics that may get destroyed with a moving brush roll.
Also, plastic wheels generally don't mark flooring unless they are dark black and made of really cheap plastic. A lot of brands don't tend to use plastic that marks flooring in general, but rubber is better - it grips hard floors better, whether it is laminate or real hard wood. | ||
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Post# 257939 , Reply# 26 11/30/2013 at 02:05 (3,798 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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Agitators are alll bristle now
Plastic and metal beater bars on vacuums are now a thing of the past. Unless you find a used machine that has them, they have been removed from the household line of vacuums. It's been found that bristles tend to be gentler and do a great job of grooming a rug while causing great agitation.
I believe the Panasonic wheels are plastic, but they are wide and really glide over all flooring well. I've used the it in houses with hardwoods, laminate, tile and rugs and it glides well over any surface. I've never seen a brush roll on any machine that doesn't catch hair. Primarily it's human hair that gets around brush rolls. Nice thing about the Panasonic head is that it's a very wide opening so that there is lots of air flow to pull in the larger clumps and not get stuck. Also a great thing about most power nozzle canister vacuums is that the air flow channel is a very wide opening in the center of the head. Most uprights on the market have a small opening on far end of the machines nozzle. This makes it easier for hair to catch on brush and jam as it has to cross the entire nozzle width to be sucked in. Below is a link to a website that uses the same power nozzle as found on the 2 Panasonic power nozzles that I gave you as reference. As I believe I mentioned before the Panasonic will fit an electric powered mini power head available through Panasonic or sold through Sears as the PowerMate Jr. They are all over eBay used/ new or on other sources of the internet and through Sears. If you were to go upright, I would agree with Matt above that the Hoover Windtunnel Max is a great machine. They have models available in bagged and bagless mode. Only things with uprights are that there is no option for electric powered hand tool as you suggested. Additionally you can shut off the brush roll on some models and use the upright head with just suction to get larger particles and hair clumps. However, to get a thorough dusting of the floor surface and greater maneuverability on floors you'll want a horse hair bare floor brush attached to a set of wands which is much easier to do with a canister. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Durango159's LINK | ||
| Post# 258866 , Reply# 29 12/7/2013 at 18:54 (3,790 days old) by hooverkid (PA,USA) | ||
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| Post# 260354 , Reply# 31 12/21/2013 at 20:09 (3,776 days old) by katieboo72 () | ||
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The other side Here is the other side of my Whispertone. 
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Post# 265958 , Reply# 32 2/3/2014 at 17:19 (3,732 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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Sorry for noticing so late, but I'm the one that sold you that Kenmore. I'm so glad it arrived safe and sound and to a good home. I wouldn't be concerned about it breaking anytime soon. I occasionally see these types of uprights with a broken bag door latch, but as you know that is not an issue on yours. Panasonic/Kenmores from this era are durable. Do you have any deep pile carpeting? The self-propelled wheels may be squeaking under strain. I didn't notice any squeaking on my low pile carpet or laminate. You have some beautiful dogs by the way. I have a golden myself.
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| Post# 269569 , Reply# 34 2/27/2014 at 04:57 (3,709 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio) | ||
Royal All Metal Upright Of Course!
Personally, I'd get a used Royal Metal Upright, but you can get a new Sanitaire SC888J, that cleans as well, for a couple hundred. Use any two-bit little canister for tool needs.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO ornery's LINK 
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| Post# 269573 , Reply# 35 2/27/2014 at 08:49 (3,708 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California) | ||
I think for most people...
The standard Sanitaire is a far easier vac to own than a metal Royal. Belt changing alone is reason enough. Though not winning any awards it is also much more tolerable noise wise unless you opt for an older lower amp Royal machine. The cleaning person at my mother's house made a bee line for the Sanitaires i keep there and avoided my Royal 1030z like the plauge.
G4's or any Generation Kirby, is heavy, crazy expensive new, and complicated. Like the Royal above, my Kirby Sentria (G10) was also avoided. This Hoover CH50020 in my pic and link, is simply the best bargin out there in new vacuums right now and is essentially the same machine as the standard Sanitaire for much less money. Unless you want an extremely light vacuum, or want to have onboard cleaning, or need carpet and bare floor ability in the same machine (only a central vac system can be all of these things at once) the Hoover wins the day. It's new, and delivered to your house tax free at an amazing price...i will be buying one soon to salt away as i don't think the deal will be around forever. CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK 
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| Post# 269574 , Reply# 36 2/27/2014 at 09:47 (3,708 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio) | ||
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They're Giving 'Em Away!
Holy crap, $142 and free shipping? Can't be much profit margin on that puppy!
We replaced a Royal 1030Z with a Sanitaire SC886, and it is equally loud, if not, louder. Not sure if the bagged Hoovers or Sanitaires are as loud, but that just might be the price you have to pay for the cleaning ability. I did notice a Royal with type B bags is insanely loud when the bag assembly is not mounted. I think the plastic up-tube baffles the noise substantially. That may be a clue for a way to quiet these things down a bit more. | ||
| Post# 269578 , Reply# 37 2/27/2014 at 10:02 (3,708 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California) | ||
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| Post# 269585 , Reply# 38 2/27/2014 at 12:50 (3,708 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire ) | ||
sebo D4 
or K3 premium sound like a good choice for you just find a used one on ebay, here is a link to the video of mine
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Post# 399009 , Reply# 39 9/30/2018 at 21:30 (2,032 days old) by rivstg1 (colorado springs) |
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having 'driven' a Sanitarie...
easy to use Vacuum...no frills of course but durable. I think a case can be made for a used Kirby as well....cheap....even with a service charge...plus all the accessories!!! I have 2 Royal uprights....like them both...6 amp and 10amp....both powerful and can use Kirby hepa bags if you dare to ( I do on both). Attachments are rare though...so similar negatives as Sanitaire.
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