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Post# 257141   11/21/2013 at 09:48 (3,801 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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As part 1 and part 2 of this thread got rather long, I've created a part 3.

Great thread guys!


Post# 257170 , Reply# 1   11/21/2013 at 16:09 (3,801 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Thanks Robert,

Daniel, from the last thread, do you know of you can order the new style power head ?
Thanks


Post# 257194 , Reply# 2   11/21/2013 at 18:31 (3,801 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
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Waiting for my prize Robert ;)

Daniel
What makes it clean better can you post underside
Of powernozzle ?

Brush roll any different ??


Dan


Post# 257196 , Reply# 3   11/21/2013 at 19:42 (3,800 days old) by utahprideboy (Southern Utah)        
lux man

I got a new Machine not just the Power-nozzle, i now have 2 Guardian Platinum, i had 2 but they were both original so i Traded one and got this new one! :-) i still have my original i bought! and traded one i got from a friend! now have this one, here is a pic of the power nozzles side by side, and dan the brush roll is still the same just the cogg on the pn motor is is bigger and makes it sound different Motor looks the same other than that!

Post# 257197 , Reply# 4   11/21/2013 at 19:55 (3,800 days old) by funeraldirector (Boston)        
Guardian Platinum

Daniel,

What happened to the power nozzle pics? I am looking forward to seeing them as the new ones are a lot more enjoyable to use.


Dan if you are still interested in the e2 Onyx for the beach house drop me a line.


Brian
















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Post# 257203 , Reply# 5   11/21/2013 at 21:44 (3,800 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
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I sent you an email I am interested just been busy .

Dan


Post# 257204 , Reply# 6   11/21/2013 at 22:12 (3,800 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Thanks Daniel . Can you put up pictures again. Didn't upload or something

Post# 257239 , Reply# 7   11/22/2013 at 07:17 (3,800 days old) by utahprideboy (Southern Utah)        
Sorry guy's

I thought it uploaded.

Post# 257240 , Reply# 8   11/22/2013 at 07:21 (3,800 days old) by utahprideboy (Southern Utah)        
Lux man,

I am not sure if you can get the new P/N alone or not yet. Here is a pic of the box

Post# 257242 , Reply# 9   11/22/2013 at 07:52 (3,800 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Utahprideboy,

Which power nozzle is the new one? the one that is all black?

Thanks,
Gary


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Post# 257265 , Reply# 12   11/22/2013 at 11:24 (3,800 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        

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Post# 257266 , Reply# 13   11/22/2013 at 11:26 (3,800 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
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please post the underside of the power nozzles

Dan


Post# 257271 , Reply# 14   11/22/2013 at 12:25 (3,800 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
My new Aeus vacums part-3

If I am understanding it correctly, the only change is to make the nozzle quieter in use (that would be a nice update).

Post# 257327 , Reply# 15   11/22/2013 at 20:33 (3,799 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Thanks Daniel. That is a great improvement. I always have my ear buds in when I clean the house. Don't hear the main machine at all, but I do hear the power nozzle.

Post# 257328 , Reply# 16   11/22/2013 at 20:35 (3,799 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Gary, the one in all black is the new version.

Post# 257375 , Reply# 17   11/23/2013 at 11:52 (3,799 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

The Aerus website had that power nozzle pictured pretty much from the beginning. I had often wondered why the discrepancy in the selfie pictures people were posting and the picture on the website. I guess they didn't expect that first iteration to last long. They must have known what the new one would look like pretty quickly. I wonder why the website doesn't trumpet the sound reduction feature. I never found Lux power nozzles "noisy" personally. I find Riccar power nozzles the worst. The ones I've heard sound grate like a weed whacker or a chainsaw. A Lux nozzle made a louder noise than some, but it wasn't an unpleasant sound to me. It had a singing hum quality that made it far more tolerable than the most others. I wish someone would post a video of it. I can't wait to hear it.

Post# 257396 , Reply# 18   11/23/2013 at 15:32 (3,799 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Thanks Mike, my lux is at the Fed Ex depot in Toronto right now so it should be delivered on Mon. or Tues.....can't wait!

Gary


Post# 257400 , Reply# 19   11/23/2013 at 15:48 (3,799 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        
Gary

It really is a great machine. Enjoy. Put a pic up when you get it :)

Post# 257442 , Reply# 20   11/24/2013 at 01:32 (3,798 days old) by thermokid (Casper, Wyoming)        
New Lux Power nozzle

I still can't figure out why when you turn the Lux Gaurdian Platinum off, the power nozzle stays on...Maybe I need a new one..

Post# 257462 , Reply# 21   11/24/2013 at 10:08 (3,798 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Does the new & revised Platinum have the bag tube seal like the other Lux vacuums? Or does the improved Platinum leak dust from the bag like the first Platinums did?

Post# 257489 , Reply# 22   11/24/2013 at 16:30 (3,798 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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The newest Platinum Guardians have been modified so that the power nozzle turns off when the main unit is shut off. Also the bags have been modified so that there is no more leakage. I'll be able to confirm both when I get my new Platinum this week.

Gary


Post# 257491 , Reply# 23   11/24/2013 at 16:43 (3,798 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        
Bag tube gasket

I was refering to this gasket shown here

Has anyone installed the gasket on the first Platinums or just operate the earlier Platinum without the gasket?

This is my Electrolux Epic 6500SR (C102D) with the bag tube gasket




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Post# 257729 , Reply# 24   11/27/2013 at 17:13 (3,795 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Yay my Guardian Platinum has finally arrived. I've been following the tracking and I knew it was close by on Mon. but weather hampered it being delivered. It was supposed to arrive yesterday but did not. I stopped at the post office on the way home and it still was not there (FedEx passed it on to Canada Post for final delivery because there is no FedEx office in this area). Needless to say I was disappointed. Then 15 min. before the post office closed, the postmaster called me to say it had arrived! It had gone to the wrong town! Anyway it is here and I am thrilled with it. I gave it a short workout and all the good things that everyone has said about it are absolutely true....love love love it! It is so quiet compared to the 6500 and 9000 models that I previously owned. And it does have a lot of power. I used the auto setting and it stayed on level 4. I vacuumed the carpet, floors and stairs. With the power nozzle running I could barely hear the main unit. The Sidekick III is amazing - so much better than the previous models. I could actual see it lifting up the carpet on the stairs. One thing that surprised me is that the machine does NOT shut off when I opened the bag door. I even removed the bag and it kept on running. I think that is a bit of a step backwards compared to previous Lux's. It would be nice also if there was a light to indicate when it is plugged it. The only other thing I would change is to make the hose about 1 foot longer. Oh and it is so light compared to the 6500 and 9000 models.

And now for the pics.

Gary


Post# 257731 , Reply# 25   11/27/2013 at 17:15 (3,795 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Post# 257746 , Reply# 28   11/27/2013 at 19:22 (3,794 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
My New Aerus vacuums- part 3

Gary,
Thanks so much for posting all the pictures and the box. It is really a good looking machine. Keep us posted after you have used it few times and the new improvements.
Rob


Post# 257756 , Reply# 29   11/27/2013 at 20:57 (3,794 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

@Gary (CountryGuy) Nice Lux Guardian Platinum.  Congratulations & enjoy!


Post# 257757 , Reply# 30   11/27/2013 at 21:12 (3,794 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Looks great Gary, happy you finally got it. Looks great.
I don't care for that part about the motor running either with the bag door open. It still has the protection thing though that you can't shut the door if there is no bag. So I guess it still has that protection


Post# 257769 , Reply# 31   11/27/2013 at 22:49 (3,794 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Thanks. I don't understand the reasoning behind allowing to vac to run when the bag door is open. On all the lux's I've owned they would not run with the door open so I don't understand why they would take that safeguard away.

Gary


Post# 257783 , Reply# 32   11/28/2013 at 02:18 (3,794 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

My how Lux has changed-appears to be a nice machine-In looking at the pictures-was imagining the "Lux" salesguy unpacking it and getting ready for the demo!

Post# 257794 , Reply# 33   11/28/2013 at 07:30 (3,794 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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One thing I noticed is that the new power nozzle cover is not the same colour as the mini nozzle or the main unit. It makes no difference to functionality of course but just appears odd.

Gary


Post# 257845 , Reply# 34   11/28/2013 at 18:43 (3,794 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Does anyone have pics of the new bags that are supposed to solve the dust leakage problem as well as pics of the old bags?

Thanks,
Gary


Post# 257855 , Reply# 35   11/28/2013 at 22:38 (3,793 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

The newer bags almost a year old now look pretty much the same just thicker.

Post# 257870 , Reply# 36   11/29/2013 at 07:43 (3,793 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Thanks for the photos countryguy. That is the best looking Lux since the Silverado. That stainless steel really shines like silver. I'm glad they reduced the sound of the power nozzle. Any of you Youtubers gonna post a video so we can hear it and see it in action?

Post# 257933 , Reply# 37   11/29/2013 at 22:34 (3,792 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
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That Picture above of the rubber gasket on the door.......does the new Lux have that gasket?

Post# 257934 , Reply# 38   11/29/2013 at 22:45 (3,792 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        
Mark

The new platinum does not have it. Asked my lux guy about that the other day when he dropped me off a new supply of bags. He said he never noticed that before and was going to check into for me.
Since the new bags came out, I haven t had any problem with dust leaking but having the gasket is a good extra feature.


Post# 257961 , Reply# 39   11/30/2013 at 10:21 (3,792 days old) by eluxca ()        

As far as I can tell over the last 10 months, no dust leaks at the bag collar when using current style bags. The early bags had thin cardboard and did deform enough under air pressure to leak. But those bags are long gone from branch stock.
Where the bags do leak is at the very bottom, over the HEPA filter. Dust comes through the paper media. It is nowhere near as severe as the recently discussed Panasonic canister. The Aerus bag compartment has very little dust on the sides. Where you find it is in the folds of the HEPA filter. I can assure you that absolutely no dust gets past the filter into the motor.
I don't think fleece bags are the answer because I use fleece bags in my Alto Wap 12 and they leak worse than the paper bags.
All in all the Aerus performs very well and it is still my go to vacuum. The Miele Capricorn hasn't been used in 10 months.
John


Post# 257965 , Reply# 40   11/30/2013 at 11:29 (3,792 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I just got my Platinum on Thurs. and no it does not have the rubber gasket around the inlet tube. I don't know what the reasoning was for removing it after all it has been there on all the Lux model for as long as I can remember. I'm sure that would have solved any dust leakage. Another feature that is gone is the machine will run with the bag door open and with no bag in place although you cannot shut the door without a bag. I don't understand why this feature was removed as well - seems like a step backwards in my opinion.

Gary


Post# 258094 , Reply# 41   12/1/2013 at 14:15 (3,791 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Here's a new vid on youtube from a dealer in VA demonstrating the Guardian Platinum.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO countryguy's LINK


Post# 258209 , Reply# 42   12/1/2013 at 22:14 (3,790 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Thanks again countryguy for that link. I've seen that guy many times on Youtube and he is always very up to date with Aerus products and info. He demonstrates the newer power nozzle and let me tell you they made it very quiet. It sure doesn't sound much like the older Luxes. It still has that certain singing hum but it's much more rapid and muffled it seems like. A very quiet machine by any standard!

Post# 258230 , Reply# 43   12/2/2013 at 04:44 (3,790 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        

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Good Lord.......It is quiet!.......I still think it's INSANE that there is STILL no place on board to store the freaking floor tool.......that annoys me so much with my Epic6500....

Post# 258232 , Reply# 44   12/2/2013 at 06:18 (3,790 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

It would be nice on this Aerus Platinum machine to throw in an extra wand for that floor tool.Save wear and tear on the powered wand connectors!And the demonstator was connecting and disconnecting the powered floor nozzle with the power on!Hard on the connectors!-Doesn't matter WHAT brand of vacuum it is!Nice vacuum overall-My How they have changed!

Post# 258237 , Reply# 45   12/2/2013 at 06:55 (3,790 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
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In that video sounds exactly
Like the original one that came with mine .
Not sure if I should have turned the volume down on my IPhone
maybe that would have made it quieter 😝 ?
Still ZERO dust leakage with the new bags not
even the bottom of the bags HEPA is Snow White
also ..

Dan


Post# 258242 , Reply# 46   12/2/2013 at 07:41 (3,790 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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The vacuum is very quiet. When using the dusting brush all I hear is the air wooshing (is that a word? LOL) into the hose - can barely hear the main unit. And with the power nozzle running I don't hear the main unit at all.

I tried the new Gain scent beds in the scent chamber (as suggested by Tom Gasko) but honestly I didn't notice any fragrance being emitted. Maybe my sense of smell is not sensitive enough.

Gary


Post# 258243 , Reply# 47   12/2/2013 at 07:44 (3,790 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I forgot to add that I hated the bulky hose handle on my Lux 9000 and 6500 but I don't mind the handle on the Platinum. It is a little smaller and lighter so it isn't as tiring to use. I would still prefer the old pistol grip style however.

Gary


Post# 258262 , Reply# 48   12/2/2013 at 10:10 (3,790 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Impressive machine

Post# 258313 , Reply# 49   12/2/2013 at 14:51 (3,790 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        
Wands

I purchased a couple extra wands for the floor tool so I don't have to keep changing it out with the power nozzle. I have about 60% wood floors and 40. % carpet so it makes it easy. It's just a connivence thing for me evan though the platinum is already a very user friendly machine.

Post# 258347 , Reply# 50   12/2/2013 at 17:40 (3,790 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
scent

try your favorite potpourri scent.

Post# 258392 , Reply# 51   12/3/2013 at 04:07 (3,789 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
My New Aerus Vacuum -part 3

Gary,
I want to thank you again for the pictures and your comments on the new Aerus.
I think it is a really handsome machine. I too noticed the smaller hose handle and thought that might be better.
It seems like they have the early bag problem solved too.
There are just a couple of issues about the design that are holding me back right now and they ONLY would be important to how I use a machine.
First, I wish they had some method to store the flip over tool on board.
Second, from what I can see on the You Tube-the machine does NOT have a quick release for the power nozzle which would force the user to bend down or either upend the power nozzle every time you want to change from floor cleaning to carpet cleaning.
Third, I don't want to have to mess with a second set of wands and what happens to the tools as they are stored on at least one of the sets of wands.

I can see these issues would NOT be a problem if your house was almost all carpet or almost all hard surface flooring.

Keep us posted on your thoughts about the machine as you have had a chance to use it for some time.
Something about the design reminds me of the old XXX. It is pleasing to look at the machine.
Rob


Post# 258395 , Reply# 52   12/3/2013 at 05:07 (3,789 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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It reminds me of child of xxx and Silverado. not a bad thing

Post# 258406 , Reply# 53   12/3/2013 at 08:03 (3,789 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Rob,

Your issues are valid concerns. I have mostly carpet throughout the house - only the bathroom, kitchen and front entrance do not and since they are all located very close to each other, I vacuum them at the same time and then switch over to the power nozzle so it isn't a big deal that the floor nozzle does not store on the machine.
There is no step on quick release for the power nozzle - you do have to bend over and push the release button. Again, not a big concern for me. However you have the same problem with the Rainbow when you want to switch from the floor tool back to the power nozzle as there is no quick release on the floor tool :-)
I would rather have the tools store on the main unit than on the wands as well but then that would make the main unit even larger in size and it is quite large as it is now.
I do like how much easier it is to set up, use and put away compared to the Rainbow or any water vacuum. Also it rolls over floor/carpet thresholds much better than the Rainbow. With the Rainbow I have to lift it up over the threshold.
I do like how quiet it is, even on high speed. I think having 8 speeds however is over doing it a wee bit. I vacuumed the entire main floor using the power nozzle, floor/carpet nozzle, dusting brush and Sidekick and used only the highest speed or the Auto function. When it was on Auto I only ever noticed it being on speed 4 or sometimes going down to 3 or 2 if I pushed too hard on the dusting brush.
I still have not figured out how to make best use of the scent chamber. Just putting the Gain beads in the chamber did not seem to do anything because the beads are at one end of the chamber but the air that is forced into the chamber is at the other end and exhausts straight through so it never passes over the beads. I wish I knew what Aerus had in mind for the fragrance and shape of it to be used.
I checked the bag chamber and did not see any dust due to bag leakage. I'll just have to wait until at least I get a full bag to see how it performs.
I noticed also that the outside diameter of the hose is slightly larger than that of the Rainbow and it is only a couple of inches shorter.
The rubber wheels are very nice. It moves very smoothly on floors and carpet and I think the rubber wheels would be less likely to scratch the floors.
I do like having a cord rewind again. It isn't a big deal with the Rainbow because I would just coil up the cord and hang it over the floor nozzle on the rear of the machine but sometimes the floor nozzle would drop off the machine and thus so did the cord.
Overall I like the Platinum very much....so much so that I am going to be selling both my Rainbow and Filter Queen.

Gary


Post# 258425 , Reply# 54   12/3/2013 at 09:07 (3,789 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Not to say that you aren't having valid concerns, but I think those who are complaining about the floor tool not being stored on board are forgetting a number of things. Firstly, most machines that cram all of the attachments on board can only do so by making them at least somewhat smaller. Personally, I care about quality full sized tools more. Secondly, most vacuums that store all the attachments on board do not have the engineering problems that Aerus/Lux machines do regarding making way for the blower path and portal. Personally, I'd rather have the blower feature than the on board floor tool. Aerus Lux machines forego that due to the power nozzle being able to clean hard floors also. It's a trade off because NO machine has EVERY feature possible. It's difficult to engineer a machine that has a bag compartment, 2 interior filters, motor, blower, and cordwinder and making it look presentable without appearing like strange appendages. One possible solution might be to place a storage hook on the floor tool neck to allow it to hang on the storage hook while vacuuming. That could be done easily. Otherwise, a carrying caddy should be made. I'm happy with it as is though.

Post# 258426 , Reply# 55   12/3/2013 at 09:21 (3,789 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
My New Aerus Vacuum -part 3

Gary,
Sounds good to me. I have never really had any problems with my Electrolux machines leaking. It is just the bags started smelling after a short time.
I don't want any machines that I have to add things to the bags to hide the odor. Even after over 10 years use our Electrolux has almost no trace of dust on the inside chamber. Back in the old days the bags were cheap and no problems to replace every 2 weeks.
I was so unhappy when I got the new Panasonic and it leaked so much after the first use.
I agree with you about the Lux being easier to get out and use. I always preferred the narrow shape of the Lux tank. I like using our cheaper Lux tank as it was light weight and the tools fit on the top compared to my Electrolux Epic8000.
We use it upstairs and the Rainbow on the main floor where I am most of the time with the allergies to fight.
On the heavy cut pile carpet upstairs I do believe my Lux power nozzles cleans fine but they just do not pull the nap up as well as the Kirby or Rainbow.
Cannot judge as mine are NOT the new machines and power nozzles.
The new Lux does sound quiet on the Youtube demo.
I agree with you about all the speeds. A Miele I bought had that auto-speed feature. I thought it was sort of useless. Not a bad feature, just not a big deal for my use.
It sounds like you are all set. I appreciate your input.
It is hard to beat the classic design of the Lux combo dusting and flip over tools.
Rob


Post# 258430 , Reply# 56   12/3/2013 at 10:21 (3,789 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Rob,

Even before I tried using the Gain scent tabs, there was NO odour from the machine. It has a hepa filter before and after the motor as well as a charcoal filter attached to the pre motor hepa filter. The charcoal filter can be changed independently of the hepa filter.
After using this new Lux power nozzle I found that the nap on the carpet was pulled up just as well as with the new style Rainbow power nozzle. I like the L-shaped power nozzle because I can easily get around the table/chair legs, etc. And it is wider so that it cleans a larger path thus leading to few strokes to clean the entire carpet.
I do not have the mini power nozzle for the Rainbow but the Sidekick III on the Lux is great! It works much better than the Sidekick I & II models, maybe due to the increased suction?

Gary















Post# 258459 , Reply# 57   12/3/2013 at 17:35 (3,789 days old) by funeraldirector (Boston)        
Lux Platinum and Tools

Hi Everyone,


I too am not so crazy about storing the floor brush on the machine. The best combination was the extra set of wands for the combo rug and floor tool so all you have to do is pop the hose grip off and attach to the other. The quality of the floor, combo dusting, crevice and sidekick III make this machine superior to the "toys" on most of the German units. The Rainbow is a very close second. On a side note, I did notice some odor from the exhaust on the unit with a 1/3 full bag which surprised me. Smells a lot like German Shorthaired Pointer. The performance of this vacuum itself is super. Several issues could use attention.

As for the nozzle I like the quieter powertrain and look forward to Dan's video on the new unit with updated Omniflo. Their chief engineer has known for years what was necessary to correct this problem as we talked about it numerous times in the mid-2000's when I worked for Lux. like everyone else, I am disgusted by the lack of Swissaroma scents that are designed to work in the scent chamber of the machine. This was one of the factors that convinced me to give this a try.


A friend was telling me a couple weeks ago there is to be an update on the
Platinum in January. Can anyone shed some light on this?


Post# 258482 , Reply# 58   12/4/2013 at 05:57 (3,788 days old) by utahprideboy (Southern Utah)        
Funeral Director

I will have a video up soon sorry just been busy over the holidays. :-)

Post# 258485 , Reply# 59   12/4/2013 at 07:17 (3,788 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
My new Aerus Vacuums-part 3

Funeral Director,
I am so disappointed that you reported the "doggy odor" coming from your new Aerus with the bag only 1/3 full. I was so hoping that would not be a problem with the new bags and 2 different filters.
I guess I should say thank you as you saved me about $1500..00. I have been so interested in the new Aerus, but not if it smells. Always loved the Electrolux.
I was told a very similar story about a high end German vac but when I went to the vac store, the second I turned on the demonstration machine, it smelled foul. They said it was JUST because it was the demonstration machine. I should have know better but I bought a new one and within 2 weeks it smelled every time you turned it on.
I think if I didn't have allergies and did not own a pet, it might not be bothersome but who wants their whole room smelling foul every time you have to use the vacuum. Also can't use the "scents" with asthma problems.
I just pitch the paper bag every 2 weeks in the Lux we use upstairs but it uses the old style cheaper bags and no expensive filters to replace and the cocker spaniel is not upstairs.



Post# 258486 , Reply# 60   12/4/2013 at 07:24 (3,788 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Funeral Director,

I am surprised that you smelled doggy odour especially since the Lux has the before and after Hepa filters as well as the charcoal filter. Once I have used mine for awhile I'll report back if I notice any odour.

Gary


Post# 258489 , Reply# 61   12/4/2013 at 08:25 (3,788 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
My new Aerus Vacuums-Part 3

Funeral director,
You may have hit on an important difference. If a user does not have any pets and is non smoker and no allergies or asthma it may make a big difference in what vacuum will work for them.
I have never understood if my dog is perfectly clean, the house is clean why a vacuum cleaner will stink so much.
I grew up in a non smoking house where the pets were never allowed in the house and we had an Air-Way so it was not until I went to work for Electrolux and out on home demonstrations that I noticed REAL FAST how a lot of owners machines just were horrible smelling and nasty.
It must be that you have bacteria and it is just sitting in the bag incubating in the dark until you turn on the high speed motor and blow air through the mess that you get the odor.
I could never understand how people could stand to use their machines.
Here would be my cause of any odors if I used a bagged machine and he is brushed every day, bath every few weeks and to the groomer every 6 weeks.



Post# 258499 , Reply# 62   12/4/2013 at 10:01 (3,788 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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He is a cutie!

Post# 258501 , Reply# 63   12/4/2013 at 10:16 (3,788 days old) by GM1982 ()        
Smells

All vacuums with a bag that fills up will eventually have some sort of exhaust smell to it. It will probably have more odor if you have pets, unless you bathe them twice a week. A bagless vacuum will probably do the same as most people do not empty the bin until its beyond full or clean/replace the filters. Its the same concept with a microwave range hood that blows the cooking smell back into the room. Those carbon filters only do so much. When the range hood is designed to exhaust outside the home, cooking odors become minimal.

The best way for no odors is central vac! The whole unit mounts in the garage or basement.


Post# 258528 , Reply# 64   12/4/2013 at 15:11 (3,788 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Ok, I have a large always shedding German shepherd and have absolutely no order coming from my platinum. According to my allergy Dr, the large majority of most dust is dead skin cells from people and waste matter from the dust mites the feed off it. So, if there is an order, it's not coming from your dogs, for all you dog lover fanatics like me out there. The carbon after filter in the platinum so working as it should and eliminates and bag order from whatever the cause. I do vacuum all the time, and go through a bag every 3 to 4 weeks so that could also be a reason for no order. As mentioned , any bag in any machine will developed some order is it sits for a long time. As far as the bagless vacs, are concerned wait till you don't wash or change those filters for any length of time. Talking about order let alone the dust that goes back into the air.
Btw, it is actually the dander in pets, not the hair the gives allergy suffers a fit.


Post# 258538 , Reply# 65   12/4/2013 at 15:54 (3,788 days old) by funeraldirector (Boston)        
Lux Platinum Smell

Hey Guys,

I had not used the Lux for several months so I was surprised about the smell. I had Miele machines I took home as trade ins that acted similarly as well. Since I picked it up a couple months ago on Craigslist, I have primarily used the Rainbow E2 Onyx with the new side-drive enhanced enhanced power nozzle with rotating corner brushes and LED. There is something to be said for taking out a new vacuum every time you vacuum and also the very low total cost of ownership to go with the excellent performance of the Rainbow. On a side note, a Veridian particle tester like the ones used at lux placed at the exhaust of the E2 Onyx runs about 100. The Platinum and Miele read zero so very good emissions but not perfect from allergy/asthmatic standpoint on the Rainbow. Did I mention the aromatherapy capabilities of the Rainbow?


I have and like the new Sebo D4. Especially the power nozzle and overall quality. I also like the cloth bags. The ET-1 is the best nozzle of the three and the bristles extend WAYYY below the base to make it self propelled and actually remove sand from the LL Bean MudHog door mat at the house. Forty feet of quality rubber cord on a rewind is to die for. Long hose, telescoping wand, swivel hose and conical hose. Just plain nice all the way around.

After the new year, you will see my Lux outfitted with the Orange Sebo ET-1, Lux E-rohr telescoping wand, attachments and braided remote control hose that controls the canister and power nozzle. The holdup has simply been the new extended elbow from Sebo for the Lux telescoping wand that now does not require the Sebo to Wessel/Lux adapter for the Lux Powerprof. A couple of friends are electrical engineers so this has been a quick trip back in time to 4th grade science class and is the configuration the unit should have shipped with in the first place. I should also be able to report on the Lux Mediclean cloth bags and Swissaroma for those who are interested. Perhaps I should have gone to engineering school because these changes make the Platinum close to perfect.

Brian


Post# 258547 , Reply# 66   12/4/2013 at 16:34 (3,788 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
My new Aerus vacuums -Part 3

Brain,
Am I following you correctly that you are replacing your new LUX power nozzle with a Sebo power nozzle?
Have you tried the new LUX power nozzle or were you using the first edition that came with the machine?
What would be the advantage except the longer brushes? I know too many questions!


Post# 258564 , Reply# 67   12/4/2013 at 20:01 (3,787 days old) by eluxca ()        

We have three inside cats, which is four too many, and a Welsh Corgi. I honestly have never smelled pet odor coming from the machine. Not once. However when I sucked up a stinkbug, that came through the charcoal filter just fine. I will be coming up on a year of use soon, and then I will install a new filter.

Post# 258568 , Reply# 68   12/4/2013 at 20:44 (3,787 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
New Aerus vacuums -part 3

John-now that sounds like a GOOD test for the filtration on the Aerus!
I like the position of the wheels on the machine. It looks like it would roll over door sills very easily.


Post# 258592 , Reply# 69   12/5/2013 at 05:19 (3,787 days old) by eluxca ()        

I think the key is how much you use the machine, that is, do you use it 2-3 times and put it away a few months? I would imagine that could be a situation where you will have a stinking bag. We use our Platinum on a regular basis, the bags get full and I change them.

Post# 258595 , Reply# 70   12/5/2013 at 07:30 (3,787 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Rob,

Yes the Platinum runs over door sills very easily and because the wheels are rubber, it is very quiet and rolls more smoothly on bare floors.

Gary


Post# 258691 , Reply# 71   12/6/2013 at 14:26 (3,786 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Love the newly designed power nozzle. It produces very little sound. People forget just how advanced Electrolux was. The power nozzle they designed 20 some years ago is still relevant today and in some cases still has not been matched by competitors. They don't really need a new design. It is STILL the ONLY household power nozzle that combines all of these features...
1. Commercial sized at 15 inches for faster cleaning
2. L shaped for easier cleaning
3. Ultra thin notebook computer sized for easy access
4. Side mounted belt
5. Central suction path
6. Rubber bumper for furnite/wall protection
7. Chevron brush roll
8. Headlight despite ultra thin design
9. Corner cleaning slots
10. Automatic height adjustment
11. Shut off circuit protection
12. Cogged anti-slippage belt

It's ahead of the times design means it's viable for generations only requiring the occasional tweak.


Post# 258708 , Reply# 72   12/6/2013 at 15:54 (3,786 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

I have 35 year old Electrolux power nozzle. The belt has never been changed.

Post# 263137 , Reply# 73   1/13/2014 at 05:50 (3,748 days old) by Vacshroom ()        
update..

I have owned one of these since july 2012....still going strong, due for another pre motor filter though.
It has normal scuffs and marks on it from alot of use, lots of outside use vacuuming the cars.

Waiting on Godfreys to stock the Sebo powerhead, the orignal (wesselwerk?) powerhead is very small and doesen't do a good enough job of picking up dirt compared to the full size powerheads.
I noticed a few differences between our models and yours...

-The vacuum won't turn on if the door is open
-It shuts itself off if the bag is full or overheats (happened once)
-There is a storage clip on the vacuum for the powerhead/standard head to store it on the unit, vac will go in standby mode if done whilst in use.

And on a very positive note, we have lots and lots of the scent cartidges!
If anyone wants me to purchase some and forward them on, send me an email at wadejay93@live.com



Post# 263145 , Reply# 74   1/13/2014 at 07:30 (3,748 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I don't understand why they changed the Platinum so that it will still run if the bag door is open. You can't however shut the door if the bag is not present. Also the removal of the dial to adjust the type of dirt being vacuumed as well as the auto shut off and opening of the door is a step back in my opinion.

Would you be able to post a pic of the scent cartridge?

Thanks.
Gary


Post# 263401 , Reply# 75   1/15/2014 at 06:00 (3,746 days old) by Vacshroom ()        

www.vacuumland.org/TD/JPEG/MODERN... is a pic of the cartridges. More than happy to purchase some and ship them over depending on avaliability at the moment.

Post# 263402 , Reply# 76   1/15/2014 at 06:01 (3,746 days old) by Vacshroom ()        
Whoops

Sorry I must correct my other post, the vacuum WILL turn on if the door is open, I recall the salesperson sticking the vacuum to a box and it held itself in the air, my partner was amazed.... haha

Post# 263411 , Reply# 77   1/15/2014 at 07:30 (3,746 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Thanks for the pic of the scent cartridge. It is hard to tell from the pic but the shape of it doesn't seem to be the same as what would fit in my Platinum. And looking at the pic of the scent chamber on the box, it doesn't look the same either.

Gary


Post# 263516 , Reply# 78   1/15/2014 at 19:39 (3,745 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)        

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I love the look of the Guardian Platinum and it sounds great. I'll be putting it on my 'wish list' for sure. Will have to start saving my pennies so I can buy myself one for my birthday.
Justin


Post# 263523 , Reply# 79   1/15/2014 at 20:58 (3,745 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
I still

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Love mine and Zero dust leakage from bags and Hepa's are still Snow White .

Glad to see I still have the longest running thread in the history of vacuumland ;)

Dan


Post# 263528 , Reply# 80   1/15/2014 at 21:40 (3,745 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Just put a new after bag hepa filter in mine after a little over a year. The old one was amazingly still pretty clean, but changed it out anyway. The long life after motor filter was pre much still new looking.

Post# 263573 , Reply# 81   1/16/2014 at 11:26 (3,745 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Great information Vacshroom but our Platinum machines also shut off when overheated. There is conflicting information about whether they shut off when bag is full. Some of the people say they do while some say they don't. The dial to retard the shut off process was removed from the top end machine in 1994. The Renaissance did not have a dial. The shut off process was set to automatic and remained that way all through the production of the Guardians. Ours also has a caddy for on board tool storage while the European version does not. As far as I can tell, the European version has no ability to store any tool on board. Ours also has a better hose system than the other versions. Aerus' hose rotates 360 degrees on both ends to improve maneuverability. Those braided hoses also leak like crazy after a while. The tiny (though still bulky) power nozzle the European machine comes equipped with wouldn't cut it for the average American home. It would take you all day to clean with that. The much larger and much thinner Aerus power nozzle is a much better bet. Overall, despite the annoying lack of scent cartridges, I am much happier with the Aerus version.

Post# 263627 , Reply# 82   1/16/2014 at 19:55 (3,744 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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According to the instruction book that came with my Platinum, when the bag is full the bag full light comes on but the machine does not shut off. I haven't used mine enough yet to fill a bag.

Gary


Post# 263644 , Reply# 83   1/16/2014 at 22:28 (3,744 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

I have been through at least 15 bags. Machine has never shut off. The light comes on and there is a distinct change in the motor sound it it doesn't shut off.

Post# 263879 , Reply# 84   1/18/2014 at 12:21 (3,743 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
I always say

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let go of the past for it will never return and embrace the present and enjoy the future .

This Aerus is an amazing Vacuum I love mine .

Dan


Post# 264175 , Reply# 85   1/19/2014 at 19:38 (3,741 days old) by eluxca ()        

Dan, I have had mine now one year and it is still the first vacuum I pull out of the closet to clean with. It does everything well - hard floors, rugs and upholstery. Filtration and odor control is far better than my Miele Aquarius and Miele Cat and Dog upright. And it is quieter, too. The pre motor filter is getting ready for replacement, though. Tennessee dirt must be finer than New Jersey dirt.
I love it so much that I am thinking of getting another on with the new style power nozzle.
John


Post# 264222 , Reply# 86   1/20/2014 at 10:50 (3,741 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
John

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Here in NJ at the beach we have tons of sand and fine dust also .

This Aerus is I think the best in a long time I am very pleased with mine and cant

wait to see how they improve this perfection . When the new model comes out this

will go to my ocean front condo . Would love to see them update the upright with

these features from the canister .This is the only vacuum besides my water vacs

that does not smell or omit any odor mine still smells brand new.

Dan


Post# 264234 , Reply# 87   1/20/2014 at 12:11 (3,741 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Could someone who owns a Platinum answer a question for me? Does the new Power Nozzle brush roll spin faster than the old one? It seems in that online video from the Richmond, VA dealer that the Power Nozzle sounds different. It seems to me that if the sound wasn't more muffled by the sound insulation that it would be higher pitched than the old one. Anyone have a clue?

Post# 264245 , Reply# 88   1/20/2014 at 14:20 (3,741 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I have the new power nozzle and was told by the dealer that the brushroll does spin faster and is variable depending on the type of carpet being vacuumed. I have noticed a high pitch squeal depending on the type of carpet. The dealer said this was normal but I do find the sound annoying.

Gary


Post# 264254 , Reply# 89   1/20/2014 at 14:58 (3,741 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Wow, a VARIABLE brush roll??? I've never heard of such a thing. The Richmond dealer didn't mention the Power Nozzle at all in his demo other than to describe the shut off protection and the LED headlight. It is surprising that you find it annoying. The Power Nozzle made very little noise in the video. Perhaps the thickness of the carpet causes it to squeal. Still, it shows Aerus still has the engineering chops to design new technologies.

Post# 264256 , Reply# 90   1/20/2014 at 15:15 (3,741 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

By the way, check out the new Aerus machines in black and silver. Very attractive looking. The Aerus Facebook page has pictures. Someone might want to start a new thread about some of these.

www.facebook.com/pages/Ae...


Post# 264265 , Reply# 91   1/20/2014 at 15:59 (3,741 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Wow., didn't know aerus/lux just updated the colors on it's other models. Thanks

Post# 264738 , Reply# 92   1/25/2014 at 16:47 (3,736 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)        
Well just got back from an Arus dealer here in NYC...

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i wish i had read this thread first because i think he had a newer cannister *and* upright in stock. The ($2500 quoted) cannister was all black and the upright was a very light powder blue with a somewhat pyramidal shaped filter cover. There was the commercial upright & 8 pound vac that looked like i expected. Shoulda snapped a pic! {Sigh}...well next time.

Post# 264981 , Reply# 93   1/27/2014 at 18:06 (3,734 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
Aerus releases "new" lineup...

Aerus is making a big splash on Facebook about it's latest color change. While they are making a big deal about it they are offering nothing new. It's the same machines with yet another new color. What a shame they can't bring themselves to get competitive with all the machines. I can't link to it here because they won't allow the Facebook page to publically viewed but it looks exactly like the old Guardian with a black and either white or gray color. The power head is solid black. The body is white with the same Lux Guardian writing the canister has on it's power head. The stuck-on side HEPA is still black.



Post# 265055 , Reply# 94   1/28/2014 at 08:59 (3,733 days old) by gm1982 ()        
Nothing innovative

simply lazy if all they did was change the colors. They do not invest in new technology development. With this upright model, on board tools was necessary, or a direct connect hose was needed. Also it should be a sealed system, how hard can that be. For $1,000 door price, there are better alternatives out there. How does this company expect to compete with other brands, the 1950s business model is dead as many Aerus branches have closed nationwide. The other products air filtration, etc are very overpriced/rip off.

Post# 265060 , Reply# 95   1/28/2014 at 09:58 (3,733 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
It's obvious

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They have customers that buy their machines and don't want change . If they want a sealed machine they have the Platinum . These vacuums out last most of the competition with their simplicity .
Aerus vacuums are great simple machines like I have said before I have purchased hundreds for my family and friends and all of their homes are spotless even with out the so called coveted sealed nonsense over priced machines . Aerus Electrolux had multi layer bags before many other brands .

Areus sells lots of air cleaners water filtration heaters ect .
90 years of quality products .

Dan


Post# 265122 , Reply# 96   1/28/2014 at 20:04 (3,732 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

I had hoped Aerus would at least try to connect the upright to the canister by utilizing the double HEPA technology and improving filtration on it too. They had a nearly perfect upright when they had the Lux 4000 with built in hose and on board attachments. Why on EARTH they got rid of that I'll never know. I could even live with the side HEPA because Riccar has theirs like that also. That's not the issue, it just needs to be totally sealed. I just feel Aerus is overstepping when they try to charge as much as they do for an upright that doesn't have on board attachments or a built in hose even though it has all the other technological features the other high-end vacs do. I love Aerus and want Lux to live on but blind loyalty and inability to criticize is not my style.

Post# 265169 , Reply# 97   1/29/2014 at 07:47 (3,732 days old) by gm1982 ()        

I understand what you are saying, and its valid that there are customers that will continue to use and buy their products, no dispute. I am one of them. However, what you are missing is that the future of the product and its business model is in jeopardy by not producing a complete line up that is competitive in features and price. Simple economics here! Proof is that they have closed several locations nationwide and fail to advertise to target younger or new customers. Other posters here share the same ideas as to why Aerus hasn't created a sealed upright vacuum or on board tools, etc. Maybe the customer doesn't want the canister.

Direct sales while great in the past, the internet and the introduction of newer technologies I feel will kill them in about five years with the current business model. Evidence is in the store closings as branch managers realize this. They cannot remain profitable enough. ( I was told this by a very good friend's father who is an Aerus sales rep for 20 years) Its a dwindling older customer base. The educated upper end of the market is seeing Dyson, Miele and Riccar as high quality brands that are known and recommended by others. When they take their 20 year old Electrolux in for repair, or if in the market for a new vacuum, they are walking out most likely with a Miele or Riccar canister because the Electrolux store that was in town 20 years ago, is now Uncle Louie's Pizzeria! :-)

I have many great ideas what to do with this company and I'm sure others here do to, but Ill leave that for another day.


Post# 265175 , Reply# 98   1/29/2014 at 09:30 (3,732 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)        
gm182,

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that's what ProTeam is for.
I don't see Aerus doing much differently at this point, the die is cast. Rebadge Euro vacs & keep the dwindling faithful appeased with yester-tech.
I think the model to copy might be Apple computer...direct sales via the internet with small, highly visible locations.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK


Post# 265358 , Reply# 99   1/30/2014 at 10:33 (3,731 days old) by gm1982 ()        
Stricklybojack

I agree, I think Apple's approach is a great idea, including the small highly visible locations. Perhaps where Apple stores are in high end malls, Aerus could go the way of a kiosk with live demonstrations in these same malls. An upscale mall would have the right demographic mix, high foot traffic/visibility while maintaining the direct sales model. If I was in the position to do so, I would buy out the this company and revamp the business model. I feel they are hanging onto the old Electrolux name too much and its hurting the brand/confusing potential new customers. This isn't grandmas Electrolux anymore. Things need strong Aerus brand marketing of today.

I would make the upright sealed with optional on-board tools, variable suction, LED headlight, color options- black or white. $850/ 10 year comprehensive warranty.



Post# 265359 , Reply# 100   1/30/2014 at 10:33 (3,731 days old) by gm1982 ()        
Stricklybojack

I agree, I think Apple's approach is a great idea, including the small highly visible locations. Perhaps where Apple stores are in high end malls, Aerus could go the way of a kiosk with live demonstrations in these same malls. An upscale mall would have the right demographic mix, high foot traffic/visibility while maintaining the direct sales model. If I was in the position to do so, I would buy out the this company and revamp the business model. I feel they are hanging onto the old Electrolux name too much and its hurting the brand/confusing potential new customers. This isn't grandmas Electrolux anymore. Things need strong Aerus brand marketing of today.

I would make the upright sealed with optional on-board tools, variable suction, LED headlight, color options- black or white. $850/ 10 year comprehensive warranty.



Post# 265551 , Reply# 101   1/31/2014 at 13:40 (3,730 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
Carpet Rug Institute Rating

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I was looking at the Carpet Rug Institute for vacuum ratings. Gold, Silver, Bronze.

The Lux Guardian Platinum Canister that this thread is about which a lot of us have purchased is only rated at the Bronze level.......Kind of surprises me. The brush rolls in these vacuums is much better than what they had before this came out. The Lux Guardian Ultra that I had did not have a stiff enough brush roll in it and did not groom my carpet well. The Guardian Platinum grooms my carpet well, but evidently could still use improvement.

The Simplicity and Riccar two top of the line canister vacuums only received a Bronze as well....while their uprights received the gold level.



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Post# 265572 , Reply# 102   1/31/2014 at 15:15 (3,730 days old) by gm1982 ()        

I think the carpet rug institute ratings are bull, its so subjective! They probably charge the manufacture to be listed on there, kind of like the Allergy Foundation website where it lists Dyson as Allergy and Asthma friendly. I laugh. The Aerus machines, most of them pick up very well. I mean how hard of a brush roll do people want? To the point it rips out the carpet fibers.

Post# 265576 , Reply# 103   1/31/2014 at 15:55 (3,730 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

The carpet and rug institute is bull. If you pay them to be rated they give a good rating. If you don't than you end up on a bronze

Post# 265625 , Reply# 104   1/31/2014 at 22:27 (3,729 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        
CRI Ratings

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are not Bull!

Machines are tested very rigorously not only for dirt removal ability from multiple types of carpet, but also on how much dust escapes from the machine back into the room.

 

If a certain machine does not get a Gold rating it could be because it's performance on some types of carpet may not have been as good as on other types of carpet. It could also be that it emits more than 100 micro grams of dust per cubic meter of air.

 

CRI does not accept any money from any manufacturer to get on the Gold list!


Post# 265654 , Reply# 105   2/1/2014 at 05:35 (3,729 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Yea, I don't care about the CRI ratings either. I care about them about as much as I care about Consumer Reports recommendations. In other words, not at all. I know Lux vacs can clean as I've seen so many. I called the Aerus store in Winston-Salem and asked about the upright. It's not in the store yet but he quoted me $2,500. Ridiculous. I called Riccar and they quoted me $1,500 for the top of the line upright. Aerus is missing the boat somewhere.

Post# 265659 , Reply# 106   2/1/2014 at 07:10 (3,729 days old) by gm1982 ()        
missing the boat, drowing in the water...

That's insane a quote of $2,500, he deserves to loose the sale, what a rip-off. He's trying to triple or even quadruple his profit margin over the phone, at least do that in the store. That sales model is the kiss of death, no wonder these guys are shutting doors. You have to be a good haggler/negotiator. I wouldn't pay more than $900 including tools for the new regurgitated Aerus Upright.

My Aerus Upright will be for sale soon... its only two years old. You can get a Riccar TOL Upright for $800-1,000 better off with that and its better made.


Post# 265666 , Reply# 107   2/1/2014 at 08:42 (3,729 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Yea it is quite absurd. I don't like uprights so this is not a real issue for me. I just wish Aerus would either focus on vacuums or switch to an air/water filter company. They are trying to be a jack of all trades. The lunacy is that Aerus KNOWS what it needs to do. The FreshEra is a fine product in the light category. The new power nozzle offers faster speed and quieter operation. They KNOW how to make the right products. I wish they would return to the Lux upright of a few years ago which had a hose and attachments on board updated with double HEPA, LED light, and stainless steel.

Post# 265669 , Reply# 108   2/1/2014 at 08:55 (3,729 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
My New Aerus vacuum part 3

How can a business person even think in today's world they can quote such a price for a simple upright machine? That is outrageous.
We have at least 5-6 beautiful vac stores in my area that sell high end Ricarr, Simplicity and Miele machines at different price points. No high pressure and you can try the machines out before you buy.
We have the Electrolux 2100 and the Electrolux Epic 8000. Both are ok machines.
I like the 2100 better just because it is lighter weight.
As Bud states in an earlier post they both clean well but I do not like the pitch of the power nozzle motors and they do not do a very good on my thick cut pile carpets. The 2100 has been very dependable but I paid $360.00 on QVC about 12 years ago and they are selling the same thing now and asking much, much more for the same design. I hate to have to "deal" to get the best price. You always feel like it cheapens the product and the whole purchase experience.
I do not believe you can even buy bags, filters, hoses on the web site.
It seems like their business set up is way behind the times. I don't know of any of my family who would want to call and arrange to have a stranger come to the door to get bags.
The proof is that none of my many relatives who were multiple long time Electrolux users -still have an Electrolux.
They are very good products but no one knows about them anymore. There is too much available on the computer these days.
Even as a collector I am unsure about buying a product with no service close by and many of the branches closed up.
Same experience with the Hyla. Local Dealer has gone. You cannot just buys supplies on line.


Post# 265675 , Reply# 109   2/1/2014 at 09:36 (3,729 days old) by gm1982 ()        
williamr

Very well said and true. Its too bad that they won't adopt modern business strategies to survive. Miele and Riccar/Simpl. have 12 locations in my region. Aerus- 1 !

Post# 265681 , Reply# 110   2/1/2014 at 09:53 (3,729 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Well you can't really blame but ONE thing guys... Joe Urso. He is responsible for selling out Electrolux and almost driving them under. He threw it under the bus and paid the price. An Aerus salesman told me one time Urso had wished 1,000 times he had never done it and if he could get it back he would. He did it to them. Aerus has shrank from it's glory days to be sure but I don't think the direct sales model is dead or even dying. Once a customer sees the vacuum they usually loved them.

And to be fair, the $2,500 price included the attachments (Aerus makes you buy those separately), the caddy, 2 year bag supply, and an extra filter.


Post# 265685 , Reply# 111   2/1/2014 at 11:25 (3,729 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Robert

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I have no idea what part of the country you live in but here in NJ and Pa. where most of my family live they all own Aerus/Electrolux . They all love the fact that the sales man still comes to their home and demonstrates the machine even with the fact of me purchasing all the machines for my family members he still takes the time to show them how to use the vacuums and also brings supplies and repairs the machines at their homes. I can repair any vacuum but its easier for the Aerus man to do it because he arrives stocked with parts and does it that day .

I personally don't understand how a collector can not or does not know how to repair a vacuum I read many threads where people have zero idea how to fix a vacuum and I am in shock . I started repairing vacuums at the age of 5 never asked anyone how to repair anything I just took them apart and figured it out . I even repair my cars and do home repairs as well .

I understand they should change but the company is still around and still selling vacuums . It took a lot for them to change the canister but they did . The upright is a machine that lasts rarely breaks down so the simplicity of the machine works.

Parts are available online or at any vacuum shop if an Aerus store is not around.
I never have a problem finding parts for any of my new or vintage vacuums including Aerus for any part needed.

I personally believe all this sealed HEPA stuff is nonsense my parents and grand parents all elder relative's have lived entire lives with out all that nonsense and todays newer homes do nothing but make people sick as they are way too sealed up . I believe in keeping a clean home and have better things to worry about than if my vacuum is spewing a bit of dust .I love a quality vacuum and know its hard to beat the longevity of Aerus Electrolux and I think they are worth every penny and I always haggle for every purchase I ever make I NEVER pay list or retail prices . That includes cars to anything else I purchase in life.

Dan



Post# 265699 , Reply# 112   2/1/2014 at 14:14 (3,729 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
My New Aerus Vacuums part 3

Hey Dan,
You are going to love this one.
I was JUST getting ready to "to give you the business" of how I never had to fix my Electrolux because it NEVER breaks -when I finished using it today the cord winder refused to go back in the machine. First time in 12 years.
Now how was that for timing!

I understand what you are telling me about Electrolux and that is JUST how it was in the Midwest when I was selling Electrolux, but that was 40 years ago.
I think people today want quick fixes and I also think there is just so much completion now in our area there are many high end beautiful vacuum stores that sell the Miele, Ricarr, Simplicity.
Now most of the younger people in my very own family would have NO IDEA who or what Aerus is and I am not sure most would even know the name Electrolux except for the TV ads for their other kitchen appliances sold at Lowes.

It just seems the reality of today is that if I want a cheap machine, I can go less that 10 miles to Walmart, Target, Lowes, Sears and carry home a Hoover, Eureka, Dirt Devil and when a customer gets tired of the cheap plastic vacs they can buy a quality machine just as easy as their are at least 5 very nice vac shops I could go to 7 days a week to look and try a machine.
Not saying this is FAIR or RIGHT but it is the reality of today and their would be very few people who would allow a stranger to come into their home.

I thought that Aerus required the owner to use only genuine parts and supplies to keep the guarantee. I may be wrong. We do not have a Aerus store anymore.

Anyway that is my sad little story on our Electrolux. It has been in service for about 13 years. I did replace the hose one time. I would not think will have the cord winder fixed as the machine is 13 years old.

You are correct too in that I do not want to price haggle over a vacuuum and I cannot imagine the women in my family (if they even knew who Aerus was) being very good or wanting to haggle with a salesman over buying a vacuum.

We as collectors do WANT companies like Aerus to be successful.


Post# 265702 , Reply# 113   2/1/2014 at 14:33 (3,729 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

I own a 1205 & still runs like a top

The only thing I had to replace is the hose (1986) & belt (1990)


Post# 265703 , Reply# 114   2/1/2014 at 14:37 (3,729 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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New hose and replacement breaker and brushroll on my Silverado, both 15 years ago

Post# 266136 , Reply# 115   2/4/2014 at 15:08 (3,726 days old) by ctvacman (CT)        

Was just at my dealer in WH,CT and he showed me the pics of the new upright which siad looks like a penguin. The handle, head and trim piece along with the tools are black, the two body pieces are white. He said the commercial machine is all black though and the other models are black with gray trim.

Like other have said on here my guardian upright leaks air at the bottom by the suction tube, brought it in and got the same answer that its fine. The one in the store did it as well. Went to another franchise store in manchester, CT owned by a different guy, same thing air came out the bottom. Went to another one in west springfield, mass owned by another family and again upright leaked air out the bottom.

As far as the bags go, in every store ive been in I open the canister or upright and the chamber is covered in fine dust esspecially at the very bottom of the bag where it sits near the fan opening. For this reason I use perfect HEPA bags and dont notice the fine dust and the performance lasts longer



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