Thread Number: 22940
Re-thinking the Kirby Rug Renovator |
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Post# 256718 , Reply# 1   11/17/2013 at 21:01 (3,804 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Callie,
Long time no posts! If you are having issues with harder dirt being picked up following the use of the Rug Renovator, one way to boost the cleaning power of the Instant Suds is to add Scuttle to the mix. BTW, did you ever solve that minor motor sound problem you discussed here back in 2012? ~Ben |
Post# 256723 , Reply# 3   11/17/2013 at 21:23 (3,804 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 256734 , Reply# 6   11/17/2013 at 23:08 (3,804 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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From 1976 to 1985, I was a training manager for Kirby, and used the Rug Renovator as the way to close hundreds of sales. I also used to clean carpets professionally using the Renovator.
The Kirby Rug Renovator is designed to use little water. Kirby suds are dry foam that are concentrated soap which dry quickly, and are vacuumed away about two hours later. (For heavily soiled carpets, add a little Kirby 'Scuttle.") If you have soaked the carpet then you have the wrong setting and are not letting the brush roll do the job. The renovator works on a backward stroke, and one pass is enough! You should overlap slightly covering a 5 foot square, then shut off the flow of suds, and work them in. Repeat till the entire carpet is slightly damp. After this I like to remove the renovator, and use the miracle head, leaving the water dispenser still in place, working in the suds so that they go deep into the carpet. Once the carpet is completely dry, vacuum the shampoo residue and carpet dirt.
All this is described in the instruction book. |
Post# 256808 , Reply# 8   11/18/2013 at 14:29 (3,804 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Callie,
Kirby initially introduced the "Stop Suds" feature on the Rug Renovator hose for the Heritage II, in 1984. But, no suds control valve was implemented on the Renovator tank until the Generation 3 in 1990. (if you watch this video at around the 36:30 mark, you can hear this HII making the same kind of bag-related noise like yours did before you ultimately solved your issue) ~Ben |
Post# 256822 , Reply# 9   11/18/2013 at 17:02 (3,803 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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find the whole thing absolutely useless kirby would do well to discontinue it and knock somthing off the price .i have tried and tried again only to be very disapointed with the results even when dry the carpet feels kind of sticky thats because its full of dried soap i usually go over it with my vax filled with fresh water thats when you see all the dirt that the kirby has scrubbed into [not out ]of the carpet dont get me wrong i love both of my kirby machines but if ever a bit of kit was a waste of time its got to be the rug renovator maybe thats why you see so many of them used once and then put back in the box never to see daylight again .i now have an old Hoover floor polisher scrubber i first scrubb the carpet with that then using any old detergent in the tank then i go over it with the Vax filled with fresh warm water the results are exellent i am toying with the idea of somehow fitting the vax extraction head behind the scrubber with the hose clipped onto the scrubbers handle and then away to the Vax that way i could do the whole job in one go hope i havnt gone on too much
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Post# 256834 , Reply# 11   11/18/2013 at 17:36 (3,803 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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found after using the rug renovator and then vacuuming thoroughly aferwards when i rub my hand over the carpet i can actually feel some kind of coating on my hand when i do it with the hoover scrubber and the Vax i let it dry [usually overnight ]then i rub my hand over it and theres no residue what so ever it feels so much cleaner and of course theres the evidence in the dirty water if you pour it into a glass container leave it overnight you can see the dirt and grit settle to the bottom .Another thing i noticed after cleaning [not]the carpet with the rug renovator then vacuuming after a fiew days turn the Kirby over and you will see the black residue stuck to the soleplate of the machine you can actually scrape it off with a knife
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Post# 256853 , Reply# 12   11/18/2013 at 19:31 (3,803 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 256898 , Reply# 13   11/19/2013 at 08:06 (3,803 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Hi, I've always found the Kirby shampooer to work very well and not leave any residue. Esp when using genuine Kirby shampoo and not he cheap copy shampoo or 1001 etc. In the demo we use to get the prospect to rub some kirby suds in to their hands to show it wasn't greasy and sticky.
If I shampoo a carpet that has stains on it or has a particularly dirty patch I use the "Spot Remover" and "Heavy Traffic" Pre-treatment sprays. I prefer the G series shampooers to the Pre G series ones. Also you have to vacuum the carpet well before shampooing. Remember we shampoo to get rid of the grease and stains not surface litter and grit etc. It surprises me how many people don't vacuum before shampooing a carpet. Same as dealing with a stain ASAP and not leaving it to dry.
I've never liked the big carpet upright shampooers Bissell and Vax etc turn out. Nor have I found them as good as they claim. I don't like working on them when they go wrong which they often do. When you get customers often bringing them in for repair and saying "Oh I've only used it 2 or 3 time...."Hay ho...
James
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Post# 256913 , Reply# 15   11/19/2013 at 11:27 (3,803 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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sticky dirt all over the soleplate its easy to get off but the point is its in the carpet as well and yes i did use the right product so its true the rug renovator is basically a mud machine .As i said the carpet has since been cleaned with the Hoover scrubber and the Vax three in one machine then vacuumed with the Kirby and guess what no residue stuck to the soleplate proofs in the pudding guys
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Post# 256950 , Reply# 18   11/19/2013 at 17:25 (3,802 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Hi, Yep the shampoo is the same shampoo but it came in big drums. I should get one myself. I wonder what I could get one at??
Yes I have seen that type of build up before on many vacuum cleaners I get come in to the shop as well as vacuum cleaners I recondition. The vast majority do not own a Kirby assuming they have any shampooer at all. Most people as I said seem to have the Vax or Bissell upright shampooers they bought in the sales lol. Also I've not had a build up on my Kirby's on the sole plate after I've shampooed the carpet. I wouldn't get the build up off the sole plate with a knife. I tend to use a cloth or green scouring pad with a bit of warm water and detergent.
James
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Post# 256954 , Reply# 19   11/19/2013 at 17:50 (3,802 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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used a knife just to scrape a bit off so everyone could see it . All i can say is since cleaning with the Hoover and Vax there has been no build up of dirt on the kirby my carpet is brown with really thick pile about an inch thick and i have found that the only vacuum cleaner that vacuums it well is the kirby i did try a Hoover senior it cleaned well but was hard to push .I will not use the rug renovator again because i dont want all that gunge left on my carpets .Heres another photo i have cleaned one side with a green pan scrubber
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Post# 256969 , Reply# 20   11/19/2013 at 19:19 (3,802 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Used the Classic 1-CR last night with it, I was very surprised how effortlessly the stain came up! I thought I would have to go-over it with the big, clunky Hoover Steam-Vac. Nope! I did, however, pre-treat with the sprayer and some Kirby Shampoo, It blasted the stain right out of that carpet!
I've Never had such "Gunk" deposit on my Kirby, Except once, I seem to recall it depositing on my Heritage 1, but I had shampooed the entire room when the belt had slipped off!
It makes me wonder what it would be like to vacuum with the RR's brush, it seems very efficient in design and performance, |