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Post# 256450   11/16/2013 at 14:52 (3,785 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Hey everyone, I got this Electrolux Airstream 1000 a couple of weeks ago off eBay for £24 and after a good clean up it looks great.
The motor ran very smooth on "first run" so I didn't have to do anything to that. It was missing a couple of tools but I just took it off what was my Contour, Michael now has that.
I gave it a good bath and a T-cut and polish, the only real thing that it needed was a new brushroll, so Sam (Beko1987) sent me the one from his crippled Contour and he also included a few bags and a couple belts which was great, especially the brushroll, as they are no longer available, so thanks Sam!!

There is a link bellow to the eBay listing, for a more "overall, before" picture, because I stupidly forgot to take an "overall, before" photo, never mind.

That really is all there is to say on it, so after a good clean, new filters, bag, belt and brushroll, this is the end result.
I will, first show the before clean up pictures I took when it arrived


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Post# 256451 , Reply# 1   11/16/2013 at 14:53 (3,785 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
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Post# 256453 , Reply# 3   11/16/2013 at 14:56 (3,785 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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When I took the bag door off I suddenly shouted PHWAAAARRR, it STANK of a mixture of soil and curry powder.

Post# 256454 , Reply# 4   11/16/2013 at 14:56 (3,785 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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The bag door looked even worse.

Post# 256455 , Reply# 5   11/16/2013 at 14:58 (3,785 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Now after...

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Post# 256458 , Reply# 8   11/16/2013 at 15:04 (3,785 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Post# 256459 , Reply# 9   11/16/2013 at 15:08 (3,785 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Post# 256460 , Reply# 10   11/16/2013 at 15:09 (3,785 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
An "Airstream" logo to blank where the Piston would

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The Airstream has a bag check light instead.

Post# 256461 , Reply# 11   11/16/2013 at 15:10 (3,785 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Post# 256462 , Reply# 12   11/16/2013 at 15:17 (3,785 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        
nothing short of a miricle

As so many of these had the motors burn out. The motor was made of plastic and unable to take away excess heat, unlike older models, and teh excess wattage coupled with the thicker bags & filters was too much of a strain.

Does this one have the two plastic strips on the motor housing to lock the body upright, or does it have a single catch on the chassis? The latter came later on and indicates that your cleaner was built around 1993.


Post# 256463 , Reply# 13   11/16/2013 at 15:18 (3,785 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
I love the styling on the switch panal, looks amazing, lol.

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Unfortunately the royal appointment has faded slightly, but it reads "by appointment to her majesty Queen Elizibeth 11 supliers of suction cleaners and floor polishers, Electrolux ltd, Luton Beds"

Post# 256464 , Reply# 14   11/16/2013 at 15:21 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Benny...

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Mine doesn't have a "proper" handle release catch, it is just a friction, rather unsatisfying SNAP catch.

Post# 256465 , Reply# 15   11/16/2013 at 15:23 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
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Post# 256466 , Reply# 16   11/16/2013 at 15:26 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Rating Sticker

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I believe going off this, it was made in the 46th week of 1992.

Post# 256467 , Reply# 17   11/16/2013 at 15:29 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
A random sticker telling you how to detach the hose...

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Post# 256468 , Reply# 18   11/16/2013 at 15:29 (3,784 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

Hi Alex. This is what I mean. There are two styles of snap-catch on these cleaners. Either two strips stuck to the underside of the motor housing, or one fitted to the chassis, at the front of the motor housing.

Post# 256469 , Reply# 19   11/16/2013 at 15:31 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
The brushroll...

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Post# 256470 , Reply# 20   11/16/2013 at 15:33 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Benny...

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It just has one on the chassis which is splitting, probably not uncommon.

Post# 256471 , Reply# 21   11/16/2013 at 15:35 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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This was the brushroll that was in it.

Post# 256472 , Reply# 22   11/16/2013 at 15:38 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
When you compare the old brushroll to the new one...

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Well, I think the picture speaks for it's self.

Post# 256473 , Reply# 23   11/16/2013 at 15:41 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Finally...

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When you put the Airstream 1000/Contour next to it's predecessor the 600's in this case the 616, but you can see how they are similar, from the front and from the.....

Post# 256474 , Reply# 24   11/16/2013 at 15:45 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
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Post# 256475 , Reply# 25   11/16/2013 at 15:56 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Benny...Here is a picture of the motor, which I wasn't going to put on here as it was just a reference for me as to how it went it for reassembly, but that is what the motor looks like.


Post# 256476 , Reply# 26   11/16/2013 at 16:00 (3,784 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

That's it, lots of plastic. The date should be on a sticker on the motor.

Post# 256478 , Reply# 27   11/16/2013 at 16:03 (3,784 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Great job Alex! Looks great!


Post# 256480 , Reply# 28   11/16/2013 at 16:10 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Thanks, Joe.


Post# 256482 , Reply# 29   11/16/2013 at 16:20 (3,784 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Wow Alex, that Lux looks brand new! If I'm ever up your way I think I'll bring my Contour for you to clean up!! Ha ha.



Post# 256502 , Reply# 30   11/16/2013 at 20:15 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Another good vac AlexElectroluxes94! Its a pain when you cant get the brushrolls or other bits for these cleaners any more isn't it? You cant get them for the TP2 either. Cant believe that the aftermarket don't do them any more, after all, the TP2 only went out of production about 12 years ago, and they are classed as obsolete already.
Is Alex going to do a youtube video of it and show us the bag full light working, and the motor running? Always like to see your vids - they are very informative and interesting.

PS - that old white brushroll looks more like a brand new Dyson brushroll! (due to the number of bristles it has left)





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Post# 256504 , Reply# 31   11/16/2013 at 20:25 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Hi Steve, thanks, I think even the contours only stopped in about 1999/2000, I think the Turbopower 2 brushrolls are still available on eBay and such but the Contour brushrolls, NO WHERE.
I will be making a video on the Airstream very soon, and you will here how much of a growler it is with that very stiff bristled brushroll!! Which is most certainly unlike the original one it had, that's for sure.

Thanks for the complements as always, Steve. :)

Alex.


Post# 256507 , Reply# 32   11/16/2013 at 20:36 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

If you can find a TP2 brushroll ANYWHERE I will be most surprised as I trawled the net for hours the other night looking for one for my TP1000.
They have all gone now - none to be found anywhere. They are still out there for the TP1 and the Turbomaster though, just not the TP2.

BTW, its a very interesting place for the bag full light - right at the bottom of the bag door - more noticeable when in use I bet as well. I miss those lights on modern bagged machines - they were the reason so many users failed not to notice a problem with the suction. No light means ignorance by the user of a blockage = a burnt out motor = more profit for the companies as the user has to buy another new vac.


Post# 256524 , Reply# 33   11/16/2013 at 22:28 (3,784 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
TP brush rolls.

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Have you tried Espares UK?

They've got one for £4-99


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Post# 256526 , Reply# 34   11/16/2013 at 22:59 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Sebo Fan, I did say they were still out there for the TP1 - the one you link to is for the Tp1 - the original dirty fan model.
The TP2 - the second model of Turbopower with the clean fan you cant get them for now.


Post# 256527 , Reply# 35   11/16/2013 at 23:20 (3,784 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well I would assume that if there are brush rolls for the TP1 which is the older model, then there's bound to be brush rolls still being produced for the TP2. You just have to wait until they come back onto the market.

Check www.anderson-trade.co.uk/brl32-ho...

Also www.unifit.co.uk/vacuum-cleaner-s...


Post# 256528 , Reply# 36   11/16/2013 at 23:33 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

All of them are now obsolete - there are only old stocks left of these brushrolls, and Qualtex no longer manufacture them. That goes for the TP1, TP2, TP1000, and TP3.
The only chance of getting them again is if someone lists one on Ebay as a new old stock part.
This is the biggest problem with the old bagged vacs nowadays - it just isn't profitable for the aftermarket to keep making parts for them as no-one wants them now apart from collectors - and I'm sure that the aftermarket aren't going to start production again of TP2 brushrolls just because a few collectors want them. Sadly that's the state of affairs we have today: no profit = no production.


Post# 256529 , Reply# 37   11/16/2013 at 23:40 (3,784 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well, maybe for Hoover. The fact that there are still brush rolls available for Panasonic uprights that are no longer in production says a lot. I'm sorry that you can't get the Hoover brush roll required. Also check UNIFIT.co.uk as they sell a lot of brush rolls.

Found this link but it might be an old one.


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Post# 256531 , Reply# 38   11/17/2013 at 00:15 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Interesting that - it says its obsolete but lets you add 800!! of them to the basket - I don't think it does a stock check at the time, and when it comes to pay it will take your details - but will not be processed when a member of staff comes to pick the order due to lack of stock. Not a very good website. The fact that it says **Obsolete** means that there are no stocks available so why let you add 800 of them to the basket, seems a bit stupid really as I cant believe that that have 800 of them in stock when nowhere else, not even Qualtex themselves have any left.

Post# 256550 , Reply# 39   11/17/2013 at 05:24 (3,784 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

That's a great machine, is that top spec?

I think the new Brushroll was needed!


Post# 256557 , Reply# 40   11/17/2013 at 06:16 (3,784 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        
Obslete spares

With new roller brushes costing around £15 or more, and cleaners to replace the likes of the Hoover Turbopower 2 and Electrolux Contour available for £50 - £60, you can guess how many orders are being taken for parts for these older cleaners. It's a wonder you can still get the bags even. No manufacturer or supplier is going to keep making spares parts on the off chance of selling a handful every year. This has always been the case. The only difference today is that numerous factors have led to a rapid decrease in the time that spares are available for.

Post# 256570 , Reply# 41   11/17/2013 at 06:52 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Sam....

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Yes, the Airstream was top speck, it ran alongside the Contours as Top of the line. I believe Electrolux only came out with it because Hoover brought out the Turbopower 1000 and Electrolux wanted to keep up the "most powerful upright on the market" the Irony is, the Turbopower 2's were more powerful and better built than the Contours, anyway.

Post# 256573 , Reply# 42   11/17/2013 at 07:06 (3,784 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Another nice makeover, well done Alex :)

Post# 256574 , Reply# 43   11/17/2013 at 07:08 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Thankyou, Chris. :)

Post# 256575 , Reply# 44   11/17/2013 at 07:09 (3,784 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Here's a snap from the brochure featuring the Airstream

Post# 256577 , Reply# 45   11/17/2013 at 07:22 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Wow, that is really cool, Chris, thanks so much.

Post# 256580 , Reply# 46   11/17/2013 at 07:30 (3,784 days old) by RootCyclone (East Midlands,UK.)        

Great looking Vacuum, Alex! The airstream looks a lot like a Contour in my view, and similar to a 600 series Lux. Kinda like a compromise between the two, almost.


Post# 256581 , Reply# 47   11/17/2013 at 07:35 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Come on Alex - lets see it in action on Youtube lol

Post# 256582 , Reply# 48   11/17/2013 at 07:38 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Well the Airstream IS a Contour, the Contours came out to replace the 600's as the 600's were getting a bit dated for the 90's.

I do have a spare Turbopower 2/3/1000 brushrool, Steve. It doesn't have the bearings in it or the metal end caps.


Post# 256583 , Reply# 49   11/17/2013 at 07:40 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I will try and get a video today, Steve.

Post# 256584 , Reply# 50   11/17/2013 at 07:45 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Alex, I'd advise you to keep hold of any spare brushroll for the TP2/3 as they are like hens teeth, and as you own so many Turbopower 2's you never know when you might need one.
The brushroll on mine has good brushes - its just the channel where the belt runs has been friction damaged by the last user constantly running it with a slipping belt, and now the new belt rubs on the sides of the belt channel and squeeks when turning off the vac.

Anyway, come on, chop chop - we are waiting for your dulcet tones to start reviewing the the Airstream on your channel?



Post# 256586 , Reply# 51   11/17/2013 at 07:53 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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3 out of my 6 Turbopower 2's squeek on turn off due to the belt rubbing against the sole plate, I have tried so many times to get it to stop, bit it doesn't want to, lol.

Post# 256588 , Reply# 52   11/17/2013 at 07:59 (3,784 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        
squeeking

This is all due the belt being off center of course, but as well as a worn roller, the pully on the motor can be worn away too.

Post# 256589 , Reply# 53   11/17/2013 at 08:05 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I checked the drive spindle on the motor and its fine, if a little blue and black coloured. The main problem is that the friction has caused the raised section of the brushroll to get damaged and the belt now rides to one side, causing it to rub against the motor housing. This also makes the belt get hot in use.
The other big culprit for doing this is my E500's but in this case it IS the spindle that is worn.
Hoover Juniors are bad for wearing out the spindles too.

All this damage because people are ignorant of the want of a new drivebelt when its slipping.


Post# 256590 , Reply# 54   11/17/2013 at 08:17 (3,784 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        
Ignorant.

This is quite true. However, as it has proven, many a cleaner continued to work well with all sorts of noises and squeaks. Whilst I have seen much damage as a result of a belt wearing through no end of plastic mouldings, it is apparent that it took a good deal of time for this to occur.

Post# 256593 , Reply# 55   11/17/2013 at 08:34 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Yes Benny, uprights do seem to cause more trouble than cylinders don't they. Its usually to do with the belt and brushroll that the problems occur. So many uprights now appear on Ebay simply due to the belts being broken or stretched meaning that the owner thinks the vac is now not worth keeping or them trying to replace the belt.
Also, its more difficult to get belts now for many vacs, as shops like yours that used to sell bags and belts have all gone out of business or closed down, and many people are not internet savvy, and just don't know where to get a belt from other than having to phone the manufacturers up for one (any pay through the nose for it). Many owners simply don't know how to change the belt or brushroll, or even own the tools to remove a soleplate to do it.


Post# 256628 , Reply# 56   11/17/2013 at 12:18 (3,784 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

It's still a surprise manufacturers even continue to produce the bags on older models, such as Hoover producing genuine Turbopower 2/3 ones, amongst other spares for those models.

I'm surprised though that Vax hasn't made the Multifunction Model 6131T Bagless, as far as I know it's the only bagged model available from Vax so I'm not surprised they haven't converted it. I do realise some years ago they made a Bagless Model but I wouldn't be surprised (I use that word quite a lot) if they did try it again. But then if they did do this & stopped production of bags people who own older Vaxes would have to go elsewhere.


Post# 256629 , Reply# 57   11/17/2013 at 12:27 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
That has always been my cause for concern...

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That they will stop producing bags and belts for my old ones, what will I do?
Will they just become ornaments? Or will I have to make my self some out of some generic bag, or bags for other models and convert them, a bit like I did with the airstream bag for the 616.


Post# 256637 , Reply# 58   11/17/2013 at 12:51 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I have no doubt that Hoover don't produce these bags and belts any more. We are just buying old stocks that were made several years ago. Once these stocks run out that's it.
Of course, there are still other stocks made by Electruepart, Qualtex and others, but I bet these aren't in production any more either, and we are just running down old stocks.
As stocks run lower, people will no longer own TP2's as they cant get brushrolls and other vital parts for them, so they will get binned and recycled. In the end there will just be those models in the hands of collectors, that never get used for fear they will break down and wont be able to be fixed, and thus they become ornaments and museum pieces.


Post# 256644 , Reply# 59   11/17/2013 at 13:04 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Why would a Hoover break down???!!! Come on, Steve, don't be silly, we know that will never happen, especially the Turbopower 1000, oh wait? Jamie might be able to help us here I think! :P

That said I have never come across a Hoover Junior, Senior, Turbopower 1/2/3 or 1000 that had burnt out, maybe Purepower's and Vortex's but not the GOOD Hoovers.


Post# 256645 , Reply# 60   11/17/2013 at 13:09 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

It doesn't need to be the Motor does it Alex?
What about brushroll failure or bristle wear, the casing fracturing, wheels breaking etc and we know we cant any of these now either - there is another post here where some guy is trying to get rear wheels for a TP1 - he's about to learn about the joys of collecting old vacs where parts are long obsolete.
The whole point with collecting vac is to preserve them in as good a state as possible for as long as possible, and inevitably that means not to use them as daily drivers. Surely you like to just look at them as ornaments, and appreciate their growing rarity?


Post# 256649 , Reply# 61   11/17/2013 at 13:23 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Oh, I do use my cleaners regularly, but not really ruffly and I use a different one everyday so any one cleaner is only being used about 3 times every few weeks.

Post# 256650 , Reply# 62   11/17/2013 at 13:23 (3,784 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well said Steve.

Alex - Please don't twin the classic Hoover uprights with the TP1/2/3 - they're just not the same. On account that you see more Senior and Junior models than the Turbopower uprights speaks volumes - metal was the way to go to extend durability and yes, they were around a lot longer than the hardbox uprights, to be fair to Hoover, but that's no reason to why spares like a brush roll and other parts should be taken out of production.

Yet you can find MOST spares for those classic metal uprights compared to the plastic hard box models. I know - I had to get rid of the Hoover Junior Deluxe I had earlier this year and was glad when someone offered me a price for it. No collector would have taken it on the basis that it was missing the all important and very rare orange bottom cord hook that was missing on mine- I know as a collector I wouldn't have bought it.



Post# 256653 , Reply# 63   11/17/2013 at 13:25 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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The cleaners that have damage or a "fragile" I don't use very often.

Post# 256658 , Reply# 64   11/17/2013 at 13:30 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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My number 1. favourite Hoover upright would be the Juniors, LOVE those, number 2. being the Turbopower 1's and 3. the Turbopower 2's I do love the Turbopower 2's but I have to stress, the Junior is my favourite simply because of it's looks and the fact that they are SO durable, easy to fix and parts are radially available because of their durability

Post# 256661 , Reply# 65   11/17/2013 at 13:36 (3,784 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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WELL, unless of course you require a soft bag replacement - then you're cooked. You either have to buy in a donor machine with a similar bag or put up with second hand ones that may have the emblem rubbed off or a bit missing at the bottom, or the generic replacement "grey" outer bags.

Not exactly widespread availability there. But that has to be expected with soft bagged uprights. It's a small compromise to some but to others, a bit of a let down to those who want to maintain the original exterior look of their original vacuum.


Post# 256665 , Reply# 66   11/17/2013 at 14:05 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I came across this Junior several months back on ebay - As soon as I saw it I knew I had to have it. It had been in a cupboard most of its life in an old ladies house. It was all original including the plug, and had virtually unused tools. Its now in my Hoover room, so I can go and look at it, but I don't use it. I can run it once or twice a year to keep the motor freed up. I store it without the belt on and in a totally blacked out room with no lights on. Sunlight ruins vacs so it has to be dark.

As collectors we need to be sympathetic to old vacs - by all means use them very sparingly, but how do you feel when you see an all original, never used TP2 like on the vid in the link? to preserve it, the owner Roger never uses it, and look how lovely it looks - in years to come it will appreciate in value, and rarity. Imagine how kids will look at that in 30 years time when its immaculate at 50 years old. Even an immaculate Dyson DC01 will appreciate in 30 years time, but they have to be preserved and NOT used as daily drivers. Buy a cheap new Purepower or a Kirby or something for daily use. I bought 2 new Purepowers, one for the collection that will  never get used, and another to use as a daily hack along with my Kirby G4, as Kirbys can be maintained still and parts will be available for years to come for them.

 

Link to Roger's immaculate TP2:



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Post# 256666 , Reply# 67   11/17/2013 at 14:13 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

This junior was only made for part of 1967, and is the very first 1346 model - they are VERY rare with the orange front panel. It was the first year also that the familiar hoover model label and year coded serial numbers came out:


Post# 256668 , Reply# 68   11/17/2013 at 14:14 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Date coded serial number rating plate new for 1967




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Post# 256670 , Reply# 69   11/17/2013 at 14:33 (3,784 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Wow that's lovely!

Post# 256671 , Reply# 70   11/17/2013 at 14:37 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Very nice Junior, Steve! :)

Post# 256673 , Reply# 71   11/17/2013 at 15:00 (3,784 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Thanks for the compliments on the 1346 - its one of my most favourite vacs, a real diamond in the rough it was too on Ebay - I only paid £20 for it as the owners were selling off their grandmothers estate and didn't realise the rarity of what they were selling. Its nice when you find little rarities like this local to you - they don't come up very often, and that's all part of the thrill of collecting vacs - the regular trawling of ebay looking for that little "gem".

 

Anyway, enough about Juniors - where's that video on the Airstream - We are still waiting to see it in action Alex!

 


Post# 256675 , Reply# 72   11/17/2013 at 15:09 (3,784 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Funny you should ask, Steve, it is uploading as we speak!

Post# 256700 , Reply# 73   11/17/2013 at 17:53 (3,783 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Here it is as requested, Steve...

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Post# 256702 , Reply# 74   11/17/2013 at 18:46 (3,783 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Great video - what a pity Electrolux don't make bagged uprights like this any more.

Post# 256704 , Reply# 75   11/17/2013 at 19:13 (3,783 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Thanks Ryan and indeed! A shame really.

Post# 256705 , Reply# 76   11/17/2013 at 19:14 (3,783 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Just watched it, and left a comment - good vid and its a "pouffe" not a foot rest thing lol


Post# 256708 , Reply# 77   11/17/2013 at 19:41 (3,783 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I know! Lol! I said it in the video and thought "why did I say that?" I always call it a "foot PUFF" lol.
Thanks for the comment, Steve, I did notice :p I to hope the motor continues to run, lol, these vacs are lovely to use.




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Post# 256710 , Reply# 78   11/17/2013 at 19:58 (3,783 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Well, my advice to you would be not to use it as a daily driver and when you do use it, keep it set on medium power to avoid stressing the motor, as you remember what Benny said about them burning out.

If I was you I would use something modern like the Henry with the Airobrush as a daily driver and keep your older vacs for "special occasions" use. It would be a shame of that Airstream burnt out the motor, like JMurray01 did by constantly using his TP1000 till the motor died, then realised getting a new motor would be a tad difficult.

Good stuff the old "back to black" silicone spray isn't it - better for shining plastic vacs up than car bumpers?


Post# 256711 , Reply# 79   11/17/2013 at 20:05 (3,783 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I use the burgandy 1100 watt Turbo 2 all time cause I don't really give a shit about that one to be honest, most of mine hardly get used really my Turbopower 3 hasn't been used since the last time I made a video of it! Lol.


Post# 256712 , Reply# 80   11/17/2013 at 20:06 (3,783 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Oh, and as your Airstream is from 1992, it should be in the "vintage" section - strange but true, as its now 21 years old. I hope you bought it a 21st birthday card in week 46 of this year which it will be around about now!


Post# 256713 , Reply# 81   11/17/2013 at 20:12 (3,783 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I'm sure I saw a burgundy Tp3 on Ebay somewhere, will try to find it again, it was a base model without autosense.

 

here it is, its in Nottingham



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Post# 256760 , Reply# 82   11/18/2013 at 03:40 (3,783 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Yh, I would Much rather have that Turbopower 3 than the one I have, it looks a lot nicer.

Post# 256795 , Reply# 83   11/18/2013 at 11:34 (3,783 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Here is another video of the Airstream 1000 showing the agitation.


Post# 256812 , Reply# 84   11/18/2013 at 16:26 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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"like JMurray01 did by constantly using his TP1000 till the motor died, then realised getting a new motor would be a tad difficult." That is true, and it was by sheer luck that I managed to source a replacement as quickly as I did (a few months if I recall correctly). Needless to say my TP1000 is now in semi-retirement and only gets used about once or twice a month to keep the cobwebs away.

Fortunately if push came to shove and the motor blew again I COULD get a replacement if I waited long enough, but there will come a day that it will be quite literally impossible to source so much as a BELT for it let alone a major component. As you rightly said Steve, each of our respective vintage vacuum cleaners are operating with fossil parts. Once we finally use up the last of those old bags and belts people have found in their cupboards and sheds - we really will be up the creek without a paddle.

One of us UK members ought to start manufacturing parts for these old Hoovers and Electroluxes - but somehow I doubt any of us will!!



Post# 256815 , Reply# 85   11/18/2013 at 16:30 (3,782 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

Jamie, how?

Post# 256816 , Reply# 86   11/18/2013 at 16:35 (3,782 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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What you could do is bombard Hoover's facebook page and demand the parts. Or if you're not on Facebook email them.

Post# 256818 , Reply# 87   11/18/2013 at 16:44 (3,782 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

And what do you think HooverCandy would say in response?

 

Something along the lines of "We at HooverCandy appreciate that you still own old products manufactured before Candy acquired Hoover Ltd, but unfortunately it is not profitable for HooverCandy to start manufacturing parts for these products. We would be pleased to point you to our website where you can purchase a new PurePower - which we at HooverCandy are sure you will find a more than capable replacement for your Turbopower 2, and which we still produce all serviceable parts for. Thank you for your enquiry to HooverCandy"

 

We have no chance basically of getting any new parts in production again - that's not how a capitalist state works. They don't want old machines to last for ever, in which case no-one would want to buy a new vacuum cleaner would they.

This is why we have to use old machines like the TP2 very sparingly, if at all. There is not much point in having a collection of old vacs if they are all useless or burnt out is there.


Post# 256819 , Reply# 88   11/18/2013 at 16:47 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        
"Jamie, how?"

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What exactly do you mean Benny? How will we run out of parts? Indeed, we won't run out of ALL parts as generic bags and belts will remain available for decades, but I personally would not use those in any of my Hoovers, so when the genuine parts go there will be nothing to replace them.

Post# 256820 , Reply# 89   11/18/2013 at 16:48 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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"What you could do is bombard Hoover's facebook page and demand the parts. Or if you're not on Facebook email them." I do hope that was sarcasm.

Post# 256821 , Reply# 90   11/18/2013 at 16:51 (3,782 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

It wont be a lack of bags and belts that put our vacs out of action though will it - what about brushrolls? they have now all gone - you just cant get them new - genuine OR aftermarket. This isn't in 30 years time, this is now Jamie. As far as we are concerned, the TP2 range right up to those made into the early 00s is now obsolete.


Post# 256824 , Reply# 91   11/18/2013 at 17:12 (3,782 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

What I mean is how would we make new parts ourselves?

Post# 256825 , Reply# 92   11/18/2013 at 17:13 (3,782 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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No its not sarcasm Jamie, I have just done it - I posted to Hoover's floorcare page asking when they were going to pull out the finger and put Turbopower 2 and 3 brush rolls back into production. Of course I'll let you know if an answer appears.

I did this before when I lost the dusting brush to my Slalom and they went out of their way to get the part to me - even if it is the wrong colour (they sent me a black one when it should have been the silver one to go with the silver Slalom model) part, it still does the job.

If you don't ask, you don't get.


Post# 256826 , Reply# 93   11/18/2013 at 17:13 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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That is true Steve, brush rolls are the third most wearing part of a vacuum cleaner (the first and second being bags and belts). My TP1000's brush roll is now at the stage where if the belt even gets a tiny bit loose it starts slipping, which isn't good at all. If I could I would replace it, but there just aren't any out there.

I would expect this kind of obsolescence for my Hoover 612 or Senior even, but for a vacuum cleaner that isn't even 20 years old? I tell you, if Hoover was still Hoover as it once was they would never have stopped manufacturing spares for the Turbopowers. Hell, they would probably still be manufacturing the Turbopowers themselves if it was still the old Hoover.



Post# 256827 , Reply# 94   11/18/2013 at 17:16 (3,782 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Oh yea of so little hope - just wait and see what happens.

Remember Jamie, you went on and on about how the Hoover Turbo Power bagless uprights that would disappear? They're still selling also helped by the Jazz upright versions.


Post# 256828 , Reply# 95   11/18/2013 at 17:18 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I am surprised Ryan. In the slim chance that they DO make them available again, I shall be one of their first customers, but somehow I am not too hopeful.

As for manufacturing them ourselves Benny, I'm sure there would be a way, though I don't profess to be privy to that method.


Post# 256830 , Reply# 96   11/18/2013 at 17:20 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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"Remember Jamie, you went on and on about how the Hoover Turbo Power bagless uprights that would disappear? They're still selling also helped by the Jazz upright versions." That is true, I shall keep an open mind from hereon in. Please do tell us if and when you receive a response.

Post# 256831 , Reply# 97   11/18/2013 at 17:28 (3,782 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Infact both Chris and I left a message some time ago on Hoover's floorcare page:

HOOVER: "...Tuesday Top Tip: If you suffer from allergies, don’t use feather pillows and bedding and try non-allergic synthetic bedding instead. Allergen barrier covers' can also be effective..."

Me: If you suffer from allergies, don't bother with a bagless vacuum. HEPA can only save you so far when the fur gets stuck to the top of the filter shroud and has to be removed by hand, thus, guess what, the dust hits you in the face. Bagged vacuums so much easier. When's the new upright coming?

HOOVER: Which upright have you seen?

Me: The one in my mind that is low eco friendly, quiet on the ears, has good quality and above all carries the reputation that Hoover once had.... The Slalom has a low power motor thank god!! But the tube clasp has now broken off after a year's use. Nothing like a Hoover Junior or Senior from days gone by either by build quality or performance. Hoover did well in that area back in the 1970s when no silly laws were around. Hoover can do it again despite the push for Chinese made bagless tat. Meanwhile, your Italian branch has just launched a 2500 watt "Athos" cylinder vacuum in the face of the EU's proposal.

Chris: Speaking of bagged vacuums, the Purepower has been on sale now since 1997. With the new EU limit on motor wattage and the current PP's being 2100w, is there a new bagged Hoover upright on the horizon?

HOOVER: Chris, you'll have to wait and see as we don't want to give our competitors a heads up on our product developments. Rest assured, our engineers are working very hard ad have developed some fantastic vacuum cleaners that deliver the suction you'd expect from a Hoover vacuum cleaner, whilst meeting the new EU limits on motor wattage. Watch this space


Post# 256832 , Reply# 98   11/18/2013 at 17:34 (3,782 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        
"Watch this space"

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Oh don't worry Hoover, I will be!

Post# 256833 , Reply# 99   11/18/2013 at 17:36 (3,782 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I don't think HooverCandy will start production of brushrolls or indeed any parts for the TP2 range as 1: No-one would buy them other than a few collectors, 2: It would cost more to set up machinery to produce them again than they would take in sales, and 3: HooverCandy is a completely different company than the old Hoover Ltd was before the takeover. If Candy had not rescued the old Hoover company following the free flights fiasco, then there would be no more Hoover name at all. I agree that modern Hoovers are not a patch on the old ones pre-Candy, and its a shame that parts for old models are now all but depleted, but HooverCandy are in business to make money and not lose it just for the sake of keeping a few old models operating in private collections.

We have to be sensible about it in the modern world - we can keep our old models working by using them VERY sparingly and keeping them in dark rooms away from damp, and sunlight.

Would you expect to go to Ford and be able to expect to get new parts for a 1993 Sierra - no, they would be old stocks, and once they were gone they were gone. That's why we don't see many Sierras left on the roads, with those that are left being in the last stages of dilapidation or in a garage somewhere as part of a collection.


Post# 256836 , Reply# 100   11/18/2013 at 17:37 (3,782 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
I personally would not use those in any of my Hoovers

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Looks like you won't be using them then, if they don't make genuine parts anymore.
I like using only genuine in any of my vacs, but when push comes to shove, what can you do, really?

And in regards to your "lets make our own"

I can make some belts for you tomorrow if you want, just let me pour some rubber into my Turbopower 2 belt making machine tomorrow and I will get them sent out to you. :)


Post# 256841 , Reply# 101   11/18/2013 at 18:09 (3,782 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Oh excellent Alex - can you conjure me up a new brushroll for my Tp2?


Post# 256852 , Reply# 102   11/18/2013 at 19:26 (3,782 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I'm right on it, Steve, the mould for it is still in the dishwasher, so I shall take it out tommorow and melt down some ABS that I have on a pallet in my warehouse. Shouldn't take me to long though.

Lol.


Post# 256875 , Reply# 103   11/19/2013 at 02:00 (3,782 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I found a brushroll for your Airstream here on Ebay - its item 6 on  the photo in case you might be interested in a spare one - knowing how rare they are now.

I guess you might have to  go and shake the money tree in the back garden though.



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Post# 256881 , Reply# 104   11/19/2013 at 02:51 (3,782 days old) by spiraclean (UK)        

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Another thing to remember is that, while there are still a fair few of these older cleaners in general use, there comes a point when the owners will no longer wish to sink too much money into them. Once a cleaner reaches 15 or 20 years old, it has for all intents and purposes already exceeded its intended lifespan. By this stage people will generally see no problem in continuing to purchase consumables such as bags and belts for as long as the cleaner continues to work, but coughing up the money for wear parts such as a brush roll is a different matter. It doesn't make sense to fit a new part if the cleaner may only have another year or two left in it.

Before anyone disagrees, note that I'm referring to the average Joe or Jane on the street here. Collectors will have an entirely different view on the matter, but sadly the collector market isn't enough to sustain a production run for another batch of parts. A company such as Qualtex won't crank out a couple of hundred parts at a time, they will be looking to make several thousand at least in order for it to be economically viable. And they will only do that if they know for sure they can sell the parts afterwards.


Post# 256887 , Reply# 105   11/19/2013 at 04:30 (3,782 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I suppose it all adds to the fun of regularly trawling ebay looking for the odd seller who might have had a clear out and be selling an unused brushroll.

The fact that the TP2,3 and 1000 was a very popular vac is probably the reason why all stocks of brushrolls have now gone. Funny though that you can still get the original Turbopower 1 brushrolls, seeing as these were just as popular.

Its a case of looking for old TP2's and 3's on ebay and buying them for a few quid in the hope that they may have parts that can be salvaged to make other cleaners of better condition work again.

 


Post# 256997 , Reply# 106   11/20/2013 at 03:14 (3,781 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Actually as a collector it just means you are forced to other vacuums you have as opposed to continual use of the TP2/3. That's the art of collecting versus average joe customer owner.

Post# 257003 , Reply# 107   11/20/2013 at 04:46 (3,781 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I now only use a select few vacs as daily hacks, and the older vacs stay upstairs with the drivebelts removed to avoid them stretching. I run the older vacs once every 6 months or so to ensure all is fine with them. I just cant risk using rare old vacs that you cant get replacement parts for as daily drivers. I want them all to still be working in 20 or so years time.

I would rather wear out modern vacs that are cheap to repair or get parts for like my Purepower or Kirbys. The thing with Kirby is that even the Heritage models you can still get most parts for, including brushrolls, and most parts are available online for them at much cheaper prices than a dealer.

Its still nice to get a vintage vac like the TP1 out occasionally for a blast round though  - but occasional is the key word.


Post# 257161 , Reply# 108   11/21/2013 at 14:11 (3,780 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Even without being used I doubt they will last another 20 years, the plastic ones that are already 20+ years old, the plastic won't last forever.


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