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Dyson long term durability vs. other brands |
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Post# 252490 , Reply# 3   10/10/2013 at 05:17 (3,822 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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I have a dyson dc23 allergy that has only ever been used as a shopvac, It all started when we were building and I got sick and tired of the fine dust clogging the wap's filter every few minutes. I drove through to my shop and fetched a demo allergy model which had been discontinued. I took it home and sucked up everything with it. Thats was two years ago and its still working strong, we used it at my shop when sucking up all the dry wall dust but now days its hooked up to my fine wood sander and does an amazing job of sucking up the fine dust
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Post# 252493 , Reply# 4   10/10/2013 at 08:11 (3,822 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Dyson motors are certainly more protected than Fantom motors. Fantom cleaners had either no pre-motor filtration, or poor filtration through a metal mesh screen. Dyson's, of course, have really good pre-motor filtration - but then again - they weren't basing their profit around a hepa filter that had to be replaced every two years as Fantom did. Fantom Thunders were well made - being based on a commercial Vectron model designed for Johnson Wax to sell to janitorial services. The Fury was made significantly less expensive, and was designed to maximize profits from their popular infomercial.
Overall, the Dyson cleaners are not experiencing the same repair problems that Fantoms did. They are experiencing different ones. Ultimately, the Thunder's motor was the best motor ever used by a multi-cyclonic upright (It was a double fan, double ball bearing Lamb motor with a small belt drive shaft - virtually the same motor used in Compact, Filter Queen, etc.). Too bad Fantom had no pre-motor filtration in the thunder (other than the cyclones). If they did, those cleaners would run 30 or more years. |
Post# 252503 , Reply# 5   10/10/2013 at 14:13 (3,822 days old) by madaboutSebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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I see in the UK Dyson has decided to drop it wheeled Dyson Uprights (and I think canisters too!), no longer showing on UK website. So no more DC33 or a successor to it! It was confirmed also by a Facebook reply to a customer/fan comment. The ball cleaners are more man-movable to the wheeled versions hence the reason. Not all Dyson users/fans like the Ball versions! Wonder if other Dyson markets will follow!?
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Post# 252526 , Reply# 6   10/10/2013 at 15:35 (3,822 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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madaboutsebo that w now, the are going madaboutsebo was me on facebook! :) I think dyson are going downhill with their ball vacs |
Post# 252529 , Reply# 7   10/10/2013 at 16:07 (3,822 days old) by madaboutSebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Cool nice one thanks for letting us know parwaz786 good question by the way! That was me that put the other comment after Dyson!! :)
I have to agree with you the latest ball vacuums are not as good! Wonder if that's why they have continued the base DC25 in grey! You read so many negative comments from users of the new ball vacuums! |
Post# 252568 , Reply# 9   10/11/2013 at 07:44 (3,821 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Cool Jon :) Shall I add you on FB? and yes I hate Dyson's new vacuums, they are so RUBBISH and they are not as good as their old ones. |
Post# 252576 , Reply# 10   10/11/2013 at 11:37 (3,821 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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on what grounds are you making this statement? You can't just say "they're rubbish" and not give a reason for it. By you just saying that and not backing up, why should anybody take you seriously?
I've found the current range of Dysons to be far better performers than any other. The DC40 is a really lovely vacuum to use - lightweight but not as pathetic as the DC24 or DC50, relatively quiet, strong suction and the brushroll has improved dramatically. The tools are also far more accessible - the hose just pulls off. I think the build quality is very poor for a £350 machine, but overall when compared with other cleaners, isn't too bad. But I don't think the high price reflects the quality of the unit. I'm also not a fan of the handle release on the DC40 and 41. I appreciate that this was done to make the unit lighter, but it's very awkward to use. Overall though, I was pretty impressed with the DC40 and DC41. I also think there are some really great features on Dyson's current cylinder line up, like the self adjusting floorheads and the new carbon bristles on the brushroll for bare floors. The DC07 and DC14 were, in my absolutely honest opinion, horrendous. Yes, they had strong suction, but they were bulky, awkward, LOUD, the root cycles would clog up with hair and dust and cause the machine's airflow to drop VERY easily and the motors weren't exactly reliable. I've seen more clogged up and burnt out DC07's and DC14's than any other Dyson. And before you say it, that isn't because that cleaner was more popular. I don't think I've ever seen a DC01 or DC04 with a failed motor that wasn't due to user error (eg not cleaning the filters or sucking up things they shouldn't). Also, if one really IS concerned about the build quality of the machine, just remember it comes with 5 years cover so if anything breaks, it will be replaced. |
Post# 252577 , Reply# 11   10/11/2013 at 11:42 (3,821 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 252582 , Reply# 12   10/11/2013 at 14:25 (3,821 days old) by vacuumfreak95 (Aransas Pass, Tx)   |   | |
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Post# 252583 , Reply# 13   10/11/2013 at 14:31 (3,821 days old) by vacuumfreak95 (Aransas Pass, Tx)   |   | |
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Post# 252595 , Reply# 14   10/11/2013 at 15:54 (3,821 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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Only the early DC07's in the UK had the DC07 logo on the front of the head, later ones moved it to the motor cover, as below. Even later ones moved the DC07 logo onto the bin. Here is one I refurbed last year for sale: |
Post# 252596 , Reply# 15   10/11/2013 at 15:58 (3,821 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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This is an earlier model that DOES have the DC07 logo on the head: |
Post# 252597 , Reply# 16   10/11/2013 at 16:00 (3,821 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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And here's one with 2 DC07 logos: |
Post# 252598 , Reply# 17   10/11/2013 at 16:03 (3,821 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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The very late models from about 2007 onwards had no logo at all except on a sticker on the top of the bin: |
Post# 252601 , Reply# 20   10/11/2013 at 16:09 (3,821 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Steve, are you not interested in Dyson's as much as you used to be? You dont post much about Dysons now :/ |
Post# 252602 , Reply# 21   10/11/2013 at 16:10 (3,821 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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BTW The Early Dysons were grey instead of silver, in terms of their bodies colour. You can give Dyson the serial number and ask for the manufacture date. they were accurate, My DC08 origin was made in 15th march 2005 |
Post# 252616 , Reply# 23   10/11/2013 at 17:12 (3,821 days old) by madaboutSebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 252650 , Reply# 24   10/12/2013 at 01:34 (3,820 days old) by vacuumfreak95 (Aransas Pass, Tx)   |   | |
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Post# 252657 , Reply# 26   10/12/2013 at 07:03 (3,820 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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From a design point I love the d07 but prefer using my Dc28air muscle. That said for day to day cleaning I always grab either my dc41 ( imported not available in SA ) or my dc42 ( dc40) what I cannot understand is why some people think they have poor build quality. I have sold many of these units and have not had any come backs at all.
They are ideal in todays fast paste world were vacuuming can't take to long to do. I love my dc28,14,07 but when I use them they feel antiquated compaired to my dc41&42. |
Post# 252689 , Reply# 28   10/12/2013 at 12:31 (3,820 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Steve
You misquote me. any vacuum feels like it comes out of the dark ages when you compare it to a dc41 0r 42. Its new technology.its glides across all floor types. One other thing the aluminium wands are actually cheaper to make than the ABS plastic ones, and yes the new dysons are all still made of abs you can clearly see it marked on the body. What causes ABS to get brittle are the pigments in the plastic and how they react to light. Hence blue,green and red ones were more brittle than the yellow ones. This is also one of the reasons Dyson switched to the current Iron colour. Also moving production to Malaysia was your governments and tree huger fault. They prevented Dyson from expanding its production facility to the size they needed. One last thing, Dyson's research and development department is bigger than some other vacuum company's production facility's. Company's like Vax simply copy Dyson's designs as best they can they don't actually come up with anything innovative. When your R&D department is simply copying some one else hard work then you can make stuff cheaply |
Post# 252955 , Reply# 30   10/14/2013 at 17:12 (3,818 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Get a DC14, its best made, amd powerful, you loved the DC04 and you will with the DC14 too. it is not a small vac like the dc24 but it is a powerful vac, better than the dc04 in every way |
Post# 252965 , Reply# 32   10/14/2013 at 20:31 (3,817 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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According to the results of consumer surveys done by the American Consumers Union, Dyson is a relatively reliable brand of vacuum cleaner. Here is a quote from the preamble to their "Vacuum Brand Reliability" Webpage:
"Kirby was among the least repair-prone brands of upright vacuums while Simplicity and Riccar were among the more repair-prone. Among canister brands, Dyson and Kenmore were among the least repair-prone and Electrolux was most repair-prone. That's what we found when we asked almost 96,000 readers who bought a vacuum between 2007 and 2011 about their experiences. The graph shows the percentage of models for each brand that were repaired or had a serious problem. Differences of less than 4 points aren't meaningful, and we've adjusted the data to eliminate differences linked solely to age and usage. Models within a brand may vary, and design or manufacture changes might affect future reliability. Still, choosing a brand with a good repair history can improve your odds of getting a reliable model." For uprights, Dyson is in the top five for brand reliability (Kirby 3%, Kenmore 6%, Dirt Devil 6%, Dyson 7%, Bissel 7%), and for canisters, Dyson is right up there with Rainbow (Rainbow 6%, Dyson 8%, Kenmore 8%, Miele 11%). |
Post# 252987 , Reply# 35   10/15/2013 at 06:34 (3,817 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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I mean the DC14 is more durable than a DC04 sorry, I love the DC04 though |
Post# 420100 , Reply# 39   2/17/2020 at 12:54 (1,501 days old) by Rdwdcp (UK)   |   | |
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Cool I have a dc07 all floors |