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Post# 252116   10/5/2013 at 15:36 (3,853 days old) by tylerawells (-)        

Kenmore has some new uprights - none of which look like they are from Panasonic. The first is this Budget Bagged Upright at $59.99 (they also have a silver $99 model). The second is a similar machine for $59.99 but it is bagless & has again, a silver $99 counterpart. Finally, we have the brand new Kenmore Elite Bagged Upright with DirectDrive Technology. This machine reminds me of a Miele and is very sleek in it's appearance at $350.00

 

Here are links: http://www.kenmore.com/kenmore-elite-bagged-upright-vacuum-cleaner-silver/p-02031150000P?prdNo=10&blockNo=10&blockType=G10 for the Kenmore Elite Machine

 

http://www.kenmore.com/kenmore-upright-bagless-vacuum-cleaner/p-02031125000P?prdNo=6 - Budget Bagless

 

http://www.kenmore.com/kenmore-upright-vacuum-blue/p-02031120000P?prdNo=7 Budget Bagged


Post# 252118 , Reply# 1   10/5/2013 at 15:36 (3,853 days old) by tylerawells (-)        
Blue Bagged

This is the Blue Bagged Machine


Post# 252119 , Reply# 2   10/5/2013 at 15:38 (3,853 days old) by tylerawells (-)        

Budget Bagless


Post# 252120 , Reply# 3   10/5/2013 at 15:39 (3,853 days old) by tylerawells (-)        
And finally, the New Elite

Looks like a Miele


Post# 252125 , Reply# 4   10/5/2013 at 16:57 (3,853 days old) by daknx1994 (Southern Indiana)        

I posted on these in the last thread about new Kenmore vacuums. However I did not here anything about the new Kenmore Elite. I'm not surprised they named it that way, as we have Kenmore Elite washers, dryers, dishwashers, and fridges. I'm not sure if we are getting this model at my store. Looks interesting though.

Post# 252126 , Reply# 5   10/5/2013 at 17:31 (3,853 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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I guess these uprights are to go with the new bagless canisters. Haven't seen any at my store yet. To me that Kenmore Elite has an odd shape to it. Strange it doesn't have a pedal style height adjustment like the Intuitions have. Those blue bagged and bagless uprights look like they might be made by Eureka - just a guess. The attachments are vaguely Panasonic though.

Post# 252127 , Reply# 6   10/5/2013 at 17:39 (3,853 days old) by Tylerawells (-)        

The cheap machines felt very flimsy in store. The blue green Intuition is marked down to $229 & they didn't have any of the new Elite uprights. I did notice on the bagless PN Canisters they are giving them numbers 600 Series for the full sized model and 200 series for the cheap one. Also, even if that Elite is made by Panasonic - it is a change of pace because usually the wheels for Panasonic-for-Kenmore uprights are on the undercarriage of the main body, instead of riding on the outside as is the case with these machines.




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Post# 252284 , Reply# 7   10/7/2013 at 17:13 (3,851 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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The Elite model should have more features IMO. It doesn't have the pedal height adjustment the Intuitions do, just that knob that one must bend over to adjust. None of Kenmore's current uprights have the features that the Progressives of a few years ago had. Gentle Sweep agitation setting for delicate items. Three power levels that could be manually set as well as the Inteliclean setting that would vary the suction automatically based on how much dirt was picked up. I think the Elite model should have these features if it's an Elite.

As far as the manufacturers, I'd say based on the Elite model's reset button and attachments, it is likely made by Panasonic. It is odd that the full size bagless canister model starts with 600. It seems to be made by Panasonic, as it has a Cen-Tec powerhead and Panasonic attachments and wands. All the current Kenmore canister model numbers still start with 116.


Post# 252314 , Reply# 8   10/7/2013 at 23:09 (3,851 days old) by tylerawells (-)        

The model number on the canisters starts with 116, but on the dust cup & on the power head of the smaller one, they are assigned numbers of 200 and 600 series. The Full Size Bagless is based off of a Panasonic design - see here: http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/MC-CL935

 

The more I look at the newer budget uprights the more I see TTI influence on them, particularly the place where the motor sits. This is the same TTI-motor type pack seen on a good number of the Hoover and Dirt Devil bagless machines.


Post# 252360 , Reply# 9   10/8/2013 at 15:02 (3,850 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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What are the first three digits of the upright's model numbers? Are they also 116?

Post# 252363 , Reply# 10   10/8/2013 at 16:38 (3,850 days old) by tylerawells (-)        

On all three of the uprights posted here, no. They are

 

  Upright Vacuum - Blue   |   Item#  02031120000 | Model#  CJUBD2

  Bagless Upright - Item#  02031125000 | Model#  CJUBL2

  ELITE Upright: Item#  02031150000 | Model#  31150


Post# 252378 , Reply# 11   10/8/2013 at 20:45 (3,850 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Well, we know that a good number of bagless (and bagged) Kenmore uprights were indeed Dirt Devil's. Saw the Kenmore version of the Dirt Devil "Reaction" just this past weekend at a thrift shop. I know LG made a bagless Kenmore upright, as did Samsung. I too am curious as to the manufacturer of these new Kenmore uprights. I did order the Panasonic-built Kenmore bagless canister to test out - should be here tomorrow. Sure do hope I like it.

Post# 252380 , Reply# 12   10/8/2013 at 20:55 (3,850 days old) by tylerawells (-)        

Did you order the full sized one or that smaller dinky one?


Post# 252404 , Reply# 13   10/9/2013 at 08:15 (3,850 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I got the big one. It was on sale for $299 when I ordered it on Friday, but went down $30 on Monday. I called Sears and they refunded the $30 - apparently they have a price match guarantee. The Kenmore version has the electric mini power head, the Panasonic (which costs $329) has a turbo mini power head. The Kenmore was the better buy.

Post# 252411 , Reply# 14   10/9/2013 at 09:50 (3,850 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well, well... the blue bagged and budget bagless blue one are both TTI. We have had them in the UK and slightly restyled with not as good handles. The bagged one is very similar to the Argos Value bagged upright I once had (Vax).

Post# 252449 , Reply# 15   10/9/2013 at 18:06 (3,849 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
Unboxing the Kenmore

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What's in the box?

Post# 252451 , Reply# 16   10/9/2013 at 18:08 (3,849 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Hose and Tools. Good quality. No swivel on either end of the hose. Love the electric mini power nozzle.

Post# 252452 , Reply# 17   10/9/2013 at 18:12 (3,849 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Here's the bad boy himself. I think I'll call him "Boss".

Post# 252454 , Reply# 18   10/9/2013 at 18:15 (3,849 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The high efficiency cyclones are absolutely designed correctly. The shroud is too, and it's removable so the entire cyclone assembly can get a bath whenever I want to clean it. Excellent copy of a Dyson's cyclones. And for the low price of $269. Who knew?

Post# 252455 , Reply# 19   10/9/2013 at 18:18 (3,849 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Shroud and fine dust collector chamber removed, showing view of high efficiency cyclone tips, where the fine dust is expelled. So easy to wash. And, this vacuum is quiet as well. Sears has come a LONG way from the Destiny (rebadged Fantom Lightning) days.

Post# 252457 , Reply# 20   10/9/2013 at 18:41 (3,849 days old) by tylerawells (-)        

Would you rate it better than the Hoover WindTunnel Anniv. Bagless? It is a very nice looking machine.


Post# 252540 , Reply# 21   10/10/2013 at 18:47 (3,848 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I would rate it above the Anniversary Windtunnel Hoover for several reasons. The neck has a swivel to it, not much, but more than the non-existent swivel on the Hoover. The Kenmore is quieter. They've managed to muffle the worst tone in a bagless, which is a high piercing sound from the high efficiency cyclones. Very good on Panasonic's part. The hose and tools are above the Hoover's quality. And let's not forget the electric mini power nozzle. I love the fact that Sears provided a parts break down, so I can in fact, order any repair parts I ever need for the Kenmore. In my opinion, it's a far better buy than the Hoover.

Post# 252541 , Reply# 22   10/10/2013 at 19:00 (3,848 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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Nice looking machine. I guess it doesn't have a bare floor brush or upholstery tool? Looks like you have to use the PN in off mode to clean hard floors. Panasonic doesn't usually make canisters without a floor brush or upholstery tool, but maybe they did in this case because there's no tool storage for them except on the wand.

Post# 252660 , Reply# 23   10/12/2013 at 08:41 (3,847 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The mini power nozzle is the upholstery tool. The dusting brush is pretty decent. You don't get a bare floor tool with it, but on Kenmore's website a genuine Floor brush is $9. I don't need the floor brush, I have almost no bare floors to vacuum. This one is going to stay around the house for a while. It's a very impressive vacuum.

Post# 252695 , Reply# 24   10/12/2013 at 13:41 (3,846 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        

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I saw this vacuum myself in Sears recently. Very nice, & the size of the HEPA filter & how it is sealed, is very impressive. The ONLY thing that stopped me from purchasing is I don't like the nylon bristles on the dusting brush, & the size of the dustbin is too small for my liking...would easily fill that up 2 or 3 times when I clean. If Sears can improve on this in a couple of years time, though, by making it with better tools & a larger capacity dustbin, they have a smash hit here.

Rob


Post# 252718 , Reply# 25   10/12/2013 at 16:16 (3,846 days old) by TheHooverMan (United States )        
That silver kenmore

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looks very cool

Post# 252826 , Reply# 26   10/13/2013 at 14:39 (3,845 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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The dusting brush may be available with natural horsehair bristles. I know it used to be in the 1980s - early 2000s on the Premier, Whispertone, and early Progressives.

Post# 252831 , Reply# 27   10/13/2013 at 16:08 (3,845 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The dusting brush bristles not being horsehair isn't a deal breaker for a vacuum that costs (as of today's sale) $259. I noticed that the dusting brush is full size, and removes all the dust and smudge from a somewhat dusty unused end table top, about as effectively as my Electrolux dusting brush with horsehair bristles.

For any of our European friends, this Kenmore is the perfection of what James Dyson started with the DC05 MotorHead. The Power Nozzle is worlds better in terms of cleaning ability. Build quality is double the DC05 MotorHead's. But they're the same size, with the same capacity, of course the Kenmore is now Multi-Cyclonic. But the basic elements of DC05 are there. DC05 used to be my favorite Dyson canister, but can now honestly say I don't have one any more. The Kenmore has replaced it with what DC05 should have been all along.


Post# 253306 , Reply# 28   10/19/2013 at 13:02 (3,839 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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I went to Sears today and they had these bagless machines on display. The purple one is the same color as the Progressive bagged canister blueberry.

I found the smaller silver one very interesting. Neat little PN on it, not sure who makes it. It has a variable speed control on the handle.

There was also one of the silver ones in the clearance section, I guess someone had already bought one and returned it.

Not sure how it's used on bare floors though, I didn't see a brushroll shutoff and there's no floor brush with it.


Post# 253325 , Reply# 29   10/20/2013 at 00:09 (3,839 days old) by cap10323 ()        
Inside Information

Normally I don't post anything.. But I wanted to interject here..

My Girlfriend's dad works for TTI Floorcare and has told me that they are the makers of the Blue machines.. Both bagless and bagged..

The white and silver machine is made by some Chinese company... No affiliation with Panasonic..

I may not know much about vacuums.. But I happen to know a bit here...

-Cap10323


Post# 253328 , Reply# 30   10/20/2013 at 01:10 (3,839 days old) by tylerawells (-)        
Went to Sears Today and Saw the Elite Model

Went to my local Sears store today and I saw the new Kenmore Elite Upright, and it was very, very heavy - even heavier than the Intuition models, I would say. I ran it and it was quite the workout to move back and forth, but the motor sounded very different from any of the other Panasonic-based Kenmore machines upright or canister. They still have the blue-green Intuition model marked down to $229, and a white bagless Intuition model for $149.95. Anybody think that they are writing off or preparing for a major overhaul of the Intuition upright line? I noticed that the red intuition upright was still being displayed on the main product shelf, with a price of $269.95. The red Progressive Upright was there for $159.99


Post# 253329 , Reply# 31   10/20/2013 at 01:33 (3,839 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Cap - I did say that in reply 14. I did own the blue one we had in the UK at one point and realised by the Vax bagless version that it was TTI. They're terrific bagged uprights though and do a great job without being a chore to push. It's a pity though that the bagged ones had to be assembled rather more than just pushing a handle in and screwing into the back. I recall that I had about 8 to 10 odd screws and had to construct the bag holder and bin assembly as well as constructing half of the back of it that holds the tools in. To say they looked like Toys wasn't half the story! The blue one lacked a HEPA filter whereas the red one featured that, for pet owners.

They also had 32mm sizing tubes and hoses which meant I could raid my Hoover parts bin or Dyson and use an old DC01 dusting brush as no dusting brush came with it as standard. A Bush branded upright was also sold at our Argos stores with a pet hair turbo brush tool. Both the red and the blue cost next to nothing when I had mine and the yellow one was still priced under £50 before Argos stopped selling it late last year.

Vax are missing a trick here not putting out their own bagged upright version. Argos have now stopped selling the bagged upright, the last bagged one went from the blue colour to a rather loud yellow colour.

My old review for mine is given in the link.




CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK


Post# 253360 , Reply# 32   10/20/2013 at 12:50 (3,838 days old) by cap10323 ()        
Sebo_fan

Sorry.. I seemed to have missed that...

They do look like toys.. Honestly..

-Cap10323


Post# 253376 , Reply# 33   10/20/2013 at 16:19 (3,838 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I prefer Kenmore's new ones - a proper metal handle for starters. Here's hoping Argos will sell these again with this newer model.

I see there's a silver bagged one with an LED light, too, the CJUBD1.





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Post# 253386 , Reply# 34   10/20/2013 at 17:58 (3,838 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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Sounds like that Kenmore Elite upright might be made by the same company that made some of the Kenmore uprights a few years ago. Phone Mate, possibly was the name? I remember hearing that they were very heavy.

Personally I prefer Panasonic made units.

It is odd to me though, because it does have elements of the design and parts that seem very distinctly Panasonic.



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