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Thread Number: 22322
The "Sirena" |
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| Post# 250289 , Reply# 2 9/15/2013 at 14:38 (3,869 days old) by joshdonnell () | ||
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Sirena Yes i agree with your points. But i would like to have have one to replace my Rainbow . And i wish the sold Rainbow alot cheaper. I can afford a Sirena . But my only worrie is if needs repair where theres no where for me to take the Sirena. | ||
| Post# 250295 , Reply# 3 9/15/2013 at 16:12 (3,869 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
I can't wait for the Sirena to come. I'm getting serial number 2 for the museum. The Sirena is going to be sold in Vac Shops (so service will be available). I consider this to be the 'next big thing' and I'll tell you why:
Most Rainbows are repaired by vac shops, not by the distributor. When a D3, D4, or E series is brought in for repairs, the new Sirena will be shown. With a price of $895, it's less expensive than a D3C cost 30 years ago. The current retail price in St. Louis for a new Rainbow is $2495. At wholesale, the Sirena costs $100 less than the Rainbow. The Sirena will go from the factory, to the vac shop, to the customer. No distributor, sub distributor, training manager, phone girl, finance company, nor salesman's commissions. There are so many 'hands in the pot' that the Rainbow HAS to sell for over two grand for everyone to get their 'cut'. As soon as I get mine, I'll make a video for the you tubes. | ||
| Post# 250303 , Reply# 5 9/15/2013 at 16:58 (3,868 days old) by joshdonnell () | ||
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Dysonman1 So do you feel like Sirena will come close to be as good as a Rainbow? I mean the Rainbow has more to offer in my opinion. I'm just wondering if the Sirena will do pretty good in the market Like Rainbow . | ||
| Post# 250306 , Reply# 6 9/15/2013 at 17:03 (3,868 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Most people use their Rainbow as just a vacuum cleaner, with the occasional wet pick up of a spill. Most people do not have or do not use, the AquaMate. The Sirena does everything a Rainbow does (as a vacuum cleaner) and most people will be thrilled with it. A vac shop will sell it to someone who is either looking for a 'used' or 'rebuilt' Rainbow or to someone who has a Rainbow that needs major repairs (motor, etc.). A D2 had 65 inches of water lift, and did just fine. If the suction and airflow are constant, it doesn't really need more than 65 inches of lift. I don't know what the Sirena will have, but it's an Italian made motor (probably by Rotafil). Once vac shops get them, I believe they'll sell tons of them. To the average person, it will be just like buying a New Rainbow without the high pressure door to door salesman.
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| Post# 250312 , Reply# 7 9/15/2013 at 19:39 (3,868 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
It doesn't sound bad
It even has a "quiet mode" for air cleaning and has a 10 year warranty
It's also using a smaller separator like the E series. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Blackheart's LINK | ||
| Post# 250319 , Reply# 8 9/15/2013 at 20:18 (3,868 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH) | ||
I won't be surprised if...... | ||
| Post# 250328 , Reply# 9 9/15/2013 at 21:09 (3,868 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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The picture Of it looks good, the tools look like Rainbow clones, which is a good thing because they are really good.Tom has another water filtration machine that I was really impressed with several years ago, but i cant remember the name of it. | ||
| Post# 250330 , Reply# 10 9/15/2013 at 21:18 (3,868 days old) by joshdonnell () | ||
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Sirena Well the Sirena isn't the only Water Filtration vacuum to copy another. And Rainbow didn't file a lawsuit against the other brands. Then again im not 100 percent sure tho | ||
| Post# 250337 , Reply# 11 9/15/2013 at 22:29 (3,868 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR) | ||
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so will we see Rainbows at cut rate prices on QVC if the Sirena is successful? In other words, will Rainbow feel compelled to change their sales model? | ||
| Post# 250357 , Reply# 12 9/16/2013 at 05:22 (3,868 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
Dysonman | ||
Post# 250438 , Reply# 14 9/17/2013 at 02:54 (3,867 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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I feel Rexair-Rainbow is going to file a suit against Sirena-They are using phrases and parts like the Rainbow cleaner.Remember Kirby vs Bison?Or Filter Queen vs Lewyt?-or Air-Way vs Hoover. | ||
| Post# 250448 , Reply# 15 9/17/2013 at 08:23 (3,867 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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The Sirena isn't infringing any of Rexair's patents. There's nothing to sue over. A U.S. patent only lasts 18 years. Vac shops are going to be very successful selling the Sirena to existing Rainbow customers when their Rainbow repair is over $400 (a common amount for a new motor). If vac shops have no problem asking a thousand dollars for a Miele, they'll have no problem getting $800 for a new "Rainbow".
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| Post# 250465 , Reply# 18 9/17/2013 at 14:46 (3,867 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Most Rainbow customers are NOT 'high end' customers. They are people who were talked into taking out a loan to buy a vacuum cleaner. The real problem is when that vacuum breaks down, they go to a vac shop for service or to Wal-Mart to buy a new vacuum. Most people don't throw away broken Rainbows, they take them in for service. That's where the Sirena will come in very handy for the Repair Shop. When someone decides they want a Rainbow (for whatever reason), they go to a vac shop for a rebuilt (or used) one. The Sirena will cost less, new, than a reconditioned E2 Rainbow. Vac shops who are Sirena dealers will carry the parts, just like they do now with Tacony products.
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| Post# 250475 , Reply# 19 9/17/2013 at 17:22 (3,866 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR) | ||
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just curious Has Rainbow trademarked the slogan "Wet dirt doesn't fly"? If so, I could see Sirena getting nailed. | ||
| Post# 250510 , Reply# 21 9/18/2013 at 12:02 (3,866 days old) by joshdonnell () | ||
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Sirena Man114 your right. i asked the Sirena company on facebook where the vacuum was assembled . they said in china. Under the supervision of the canadian engineers. | ||
| Post# 250516 , Reply# 22 9/18/2013 at 14:06 (3,866 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
I own a Vacuum shop and can tell you one thing. Unlike big box stores most of your customers are either return customers or referred by other customers. Selling a unknown brand can be fairly easy as the customer is not buying a vacuum from an unknown company but from you, the vacshop they have been going to for the past 5 years, the vacuum shop their whole family and neighborhood uses.
The best thing a company that is launching a new brand can do is launch it through existing vacuum shops. Gareth | ||
| Post# 250537 , Reply# 23 9/18/2013 at 16:14 (3,866 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
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I think it's "Wet Dust Can't Fly" | ||
| Post# 250580 , Reply# 26 9/18/2013 at 20:38 (3,865 days old) by joshdonnell () | ||
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Sirena Its like most products designed somewhere then made or assembled in another country. But you never know it could be a really great product. | ||
| Post# 256290 , Reply# 29 11/14/2013 at 12:11 (3,809 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR) | ||
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production in North America Canuck, I hear there's a pretty good vacuum manufacturer in St James, Missouri that could likely build your product in North America... | ||
| Post# 337385 , Reply# 30 11/12/2015 at 15:00 (3,081 days old) by Dragonsyt57 () | ||
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Sirena I'm still using the Rainbow I sold my mom in 1978,so I'm curious as to how well the Sirena will hold up,also is Sirena associated with Rexair? | ||
| Post# 337491 , Reply# 31 11/14/2015 at 10:23 (3,079 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
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I've gotten tired of using
my Sirena. I end up using my Rainbow because it doesn't take as long to set up or clean up at the end. I don't like the dolly on the Sirena. I mean, the machine does what it's supposed to but I do not think the separator is nearly as good as the one on the Rainbow....the fans on my Sirena have more visible dirt on them after a few uses than my 8 year old rainbow does. Additionally, I took the hepa off and I saw visible dirt on that too. So I'm not sure what to think about that because it works exactly like rainbow. I can see someone who does not have a rainbow using this a lot....but since I have both, if I had to do it over again, I would not buy the Sirena (unless I did not have a rainbow). It was a totally unnecessary purchase for me (not typical of me).
This all said, it does do a good job. The hepa is very easy to wash, suction is good, tools are nice and high quality (not as high quality as rainbow) but still high quality. | ||
| Post# 384190 , Reply# 34 1/13/2018 at 14:23 (2,288 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado) | ||
The Rainbows with the "Hurricane" motor are much more powerful than the Sirena. I believe the Sirena is using the same motor as the prototype separator type Big Power I have, its labeled Ametek Italia and it looks identical to a Lindhaus (Rotafil) made motor, but single fan and with a separator attached. I think the Ocean Blue used this motor too, if not it was one of the other machines like that.
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| Post# 384200 , Reply# 35 1/13/2018 at 17:20 (2,287 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest) | ||
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Sirens will move 90 CFM Rainbow does about 60 CFM. | ||
| Post# 384233 , Reply# 37 1/14/2018 at 14:35 (2,287 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
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| Post# 384284 , Reply# 40 1/15/2018 at 03:35 (2,286 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest) | ||
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I don't think anyone will argue that the Sirena is not as refined as the Rainbow. Its also 1/3rd the price, and still has a 10 year Warranty. In the two years I've owned my Sirena I may have had some criticism, but no complaints. | ||
| Post# 384305 , Reply# 41 1/15/2018 at 14:22 (2,286 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
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Post# 384330 , Reply# 42 1/16/2018 at 02:04 (2,285 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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Yes,have the E series Rainbows.They do work well,but not so convenient to use.Do like the new Rainbow powernozzle with the "whisker brushes" that turn-dusts baseboards well without having to use the hose. | ||
| Post# 384376 , Reply# 44 1/17/2018 at 03:38 (2,284 days old) by S31463221 (Frenchburg, KY) | ||
Markhenry
While I don’t own a Sirena, I wouldn’t mind having one. Once upon a time, I even considered being a dealer for them. As I’m sure you’ve figured out based on the comments from others here, they are NOT associated with Rexair (the company that makes Rainbow). My big question is who in the world priced you a Sirena for $1500??? They sell for $889 all day long straight from Sirena’s website! Might want to look into ordering directly from the manufacturer before paying someone nearly double what they’re selling for elsewhere!
CLICK HERE TO GO TO S31463221's LINK | ||
| Post# 384378 , Reply# 45 1/17/2018 at 04:04 (2,284 days old) by markhenry (USA) | ||
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Pretty sure once you convert the US dollar to my dollar and transport... it ends up $1500 | ||
| Post# 384534 , Reply# 47 1/19/2018 at 22:21 (2,281 days old) by markhenry (USA) | ||
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Drama and a machine - Please :) | ||
| Post# 384536 , Reply# 48 1/19/2018 at 23:03 (2,281 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest) | ||
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As they say on Shark Tank "I'M Out." | ||
| Post# 384552 , Reply# 49 1/20/2018 at 08:45 (2,281 days old) by S31463221 (Frenchburg, KY) | ||
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I’m confused | ||
| Post# 384558 , Reply# 51 1/20/2018 at 09:35 (2,281 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
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It's not easier to clean
(for me) the rainbow basin has that roof, but you can get your hands in it easily anyway. U have a huge area under the sirena that gets exposed to water spashing up, and that rubber area is a total pain to clean. Whatever material it is dirt sticks to it...whatever that rubber material is around the separator of the rainbow hardly anything sticks to that....It takes me about 5 extra minutes to put my Sirena away than it does my Rainbow.. I can't put either of them away without cleaning everything and wiping it down. If anyone wants to buy my Sirena, let me know. It's clean/shiny and stored away.
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| Post# 384567 , Reply# 53 1/20/2018 at 21:05 (2,280 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
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