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Post# 250202   9/14/2013 at 14:34 (3,847 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I Love the look of these machines, I had one up until about a year ago when somehow it vanished when I moved my shop.

These are very rare in SA they were on sale here for only two years and were very expensive at the time. The problem was it competed with the AEG Vampyre at the time which Elecrolux SA distributed. Customers just preferred the Built in Germany brand.

Its really nice to get one again.




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Post# 250203 , Reply# 1   9/14/2013 at 14:37 (3,847 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Its going to need a Good sand down and buff to get that black shining again scratch free

Post# 250414 , Reply# 2   9/16/2013 at 20:03 (3,845 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Good find! See previous thread showing mine off. It was only taken out of its blue Electrolux cardboard packing box to show here on this site and had very little use beforehand. I do love the quiet noise and the auto switch for cord rewind is a superb idea. Wish SEBO would put one like that on their K series.


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Post# 250442 , Reply# 3   9/17/2013 at 03:12 (3,845 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

For the enormous size of the machine, the dust bag was miniscule. I never saw why a consumer would want such a big cleaner for no useful purpose.

Post# 250446 , Reply# 4   9/17/2013 at 05:05 (3,845 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I'd agree with that - but then at the time the Miele S500 series and counterparts had 4 litre dust capacities against Hoover who had lots of new and old cylinder vacs. I think the whole point of the Excellio was to offer something like a Miele vacuum with its remote control handle, boost settings etc and slight hike in quality. The Mondo E and the Excellio are both very durable, generally.

Post# 250456 , Reply# 5   9/17/2013 at 14:04 (3,844 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I had a beautiful red sample one with a euro PN, I can't find that one either.

This is what happens when you have to many vacuums, you loose track of them. Today I went down to one of my storerooms and found two beautiful hoses for a Hoover 375 I knew I had one somewhere but had no idea I had two. I also found some beautiful hoses for 70's Electrolux cylinder models.Pics tomorrow


Post# 250534 , Reply# 6   9/18/2013 at 16:01 (3,843 days old) by tazcatsdad (Buffalo, NY)        
I have one of those same machines here in the 'States ..

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And yes, the bags are pretty small but the machine cleans like there's no tomorrow!  It's so quiet as well, and I love the remote control too.  Here's something funny about this machine: because the remote works in basically the same way as a TV remote does, I've programmed a learning remote control originally designed for TV use to serve as a backup remote for this cleaner in case the one on the hose ever goes bad!  In my opinion, they're one of the finest cylinder cleaners Electrolux ever came out with.  So, congratulations on your find, Gareth!

 

Bill W.



Post# 250538 , Reply# 7   9/18/2013 at 16:14 (3,843 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()        

So when were these on sale exactly then?

Post# 250539 , Reply# 8   9/18/2013 at 16:31 (3,843 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

In the UK they were sold in the latter part of the 1990's. The main problem with sales over here was that (A) Electrolux were selling so very many other cylinder cleaners at that time, so there was a good deal (too much really) choice for the consumer, and (B) it's retail price was so high it was competing with the likes of Meile and Dyson.

Post# 250540 , Reply# 9   9/18/2013 at 16:31 (3,843 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Between 1996 to 1999 I think. The Ingenio was first, then followed by the Excellio - have a look taken from Chris/Turbo500's catalogue scans from 1996, Argos. (Link given below). It does say "5.6"" litre dust capacity but that was for the Ingenio and not the Excellio.





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Post# 250541 , Reply# 10   9/18/2013 at 16:40 (3,843 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Sebo fan, you may recall that the Igenio was the model which replaced the Harmony cleaners. They were practically identical but for colour and tools supplied (there was a lot of plastic tubing going on with the Harmony models). The Excellio was larger and was also sold as the "Airclean" top-rang high-filter model.

Post# 250542 , Reply# 11   9/18/2013 at 16:40 (3,843 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()        

Such a shame how Electrolux have turned out though, they only sell the Workzone at Argos now last time I looked.

Post# 250543 , Reply# 12   9/18/2013 at 16:41 (3,843 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Also from what I can recall, when I bought my budget Mondo E, you could find bags for that series everywhere, but the higher S-Class bags for the Excellio used to be harder to find. The Internet has saved this model effectively where bags and filters are concerned, now.

Post# 250544 , Reply# 13   9/18/2013 at 16:42 (3,843 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()        

Even their early to mid 2000's Bagged The Boss range were better than what they are now. I have a Z2270 which my late Nan owned, found the receipt & it cost £45.99 BNIB from Argos in 2005!

Post# 250545 , Reply# 14   9/18/2013 at 16:43 (3,843 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Benny - being a 1990s Hoover cylinder fan, I wasn't really that clued up with Electrolux, let alone giving it a chance for consideration. But! The Mondo E 1300 was the model that changed my mind. A super budget and basic cylinder that was super quiet and powerful. I didn't know that the Ingenio replaced the Harmony, so that's good to know.

Didn't Electrolux also do a range of uprights called Airclean too? I recall using a black one that was quite heavy but very powerful.

Personally Hi-Lo, Electrolux's biggest mistake is trying to pass off existing floorcare ranges with the other brands they own. In the U.S there are some great vacuums but in the UK we get the poorly constructed "moulded plastic" vacuums whilst the better built ones are sold under the AEG branding.


Post# 250548 , Reply# 15   9/18/2013 at 16:46 (3,843 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()        

Yes, Airclean were based on the Contour Design at first, then followed & were produced in the same design as the Bag/Bagless 'Powersystem'. Saw a Powersystem/Ariclean at a car boot with the Bagless Cassette.

Post# 250549 , Reply# 16   9/18/2013 at 16:47 (3,843 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Yes, Airclean was also used as a name for the high-filter Contour cleaner. Whether Electrolux knew it or not I have no idea, but few people would be willing to spend that amount of money on anything but the new Dysons. The older Airstream models seemed to sell in greater numbers, but then it had a lot less competition. It also had a poor motor which did not like running at 1000watts, nor did it like the extra thick bags and filters. Motor failure in these machines was rife.

Post# 250550 , Reply# 17   9/18/2013 at 16:48 (3,843 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()        

In reply to what you mentioned sebo-fan, Electrolux have never given Zanussi a chance to actually produce a vacuum of their own, just shoving Electrolux's poorly built, easily clogging range under the Zanussi name. Wilko are massive sellers of it.

Post# 250552 , Reply# 18   9/18/2013 at 16:51 (3,843 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well Hi-Lo they haven't given AEG a chance to design vacuums either - don't forget they carry the name proper in other countries.

Not all models clog though so please don't tar every sub brand that Electrolux sell/rename. Zanussi have two bagged cylinder vacuums plus the Powerlite based bagged upright. Also for a fair bit a few years ago, John Lewis had a "HiLight" bagged upright under their own name from Electrolux.


Post# 250558 , Reply# 19   9/18/2013 at 16:54 (3,843 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()        

I know I'm meaning the Electrolux/Zanussi 'Vitesse' Cleaners that clog with the central filter in the dust bin.

Post# 250559 , Reply# 20   9/18/2013 at 16:58 (3,843 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
Zanussi

Not quite. During the early 1990s, the Electrolux Lite model was sold as a Zanussi. They were rather solid cleaners in their day and positively bullet-proof by today's standards.

Post# 250561 , Reply# 21   9/18/2013 at 17:08 (3,843 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well, effectively Electrolux had done this before with their Boss brand - offered elsewhere as Electrolux "proper" vacs without the Boss badging. The Boss brand often threw me - I was never quite sure what Electrolux's conditions were to badge everything "Boss" as some of the products weren't always the cheapest.

Post# 251165 , Reply# 22   9/24/2013 at 10:27 (3,837 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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There is a New Zanuusi upright vacuum out, its basically a Eureka airspeed one under a different name.

It actually a good vacuum I have a Eureka version of it, I have had it for a few months now and workes very well using a copy of the dyson dual cyclone technology, a few months in and the filter is only now getting dirty. Not the best build quality but its got super carpet cleaning ability and for its price is a dam good vacuum.


Post# 251218 , Reply# 23   9/24/2013 at 15:42 (3,837 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        
Electrolux cylinder cleaners

Wasn't there also around the 1990s, a range of high-end models called the "4x4"?

I remember them having four Miele type castors, a flex that wound itself in and out, and a dustbag made of synthetic fleece. Colours were British Racing Green and a similar Blue. I can't remember if remote control was available - I suppose it was.



Post# 251223 , Reply# 24   9/24/2013 at 16:15 (3,837 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Gareth - check previous post www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...

You'll also see Zanussi have relaunched the Electrolux Powerlite bagged upright as well as a lot of other old Electrolux products. I feel here that Electrolux have really lost their way.


Post# 251263 , Reply# 25   9/25/2013 at 04:36 (3,837 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I disagree

I am rather impressed with the new Electrolux line up. The fact that they are badgeing some old but good models as Zanussi vacuums is not a bad thing. I like the colors too.


Post# 251301 , Reply# 26   9/25/2013 at 15:13 (3,836 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well we're entitled to our opinions - as I said in the other post.

Sadly as far as I'm concerned, Electrolux in the UK have done very little with their current floorcare. They don't even appear to have any vacuums listed anymore on their UK website. Clearly they want to get away from floorcare, passing off their old line to Zanussi with few changes other than colours and uprated power and the luxury line given to AEG.


Post# 251302 , Reply# 27   9/25/2013 at 15:20 (3,836 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I think there has been a reshuffle at Electrolux, I always found it odd that in Europe & SA the top models are badged as AEG but in England they were Electrolux. There is allot of Movement at Electrolux AEG SA, Electrolux here was aeg and Electrolux floor care but now its major appliances aswell. What I do think is going to be happening in SA and UK is a whole new upright model range. With Dual cyclone technology patent's expiring, expect to see more on the airspeed light. If I was you I would watch Eureka website as that's were all upright Electrolux's come from. I think there are going to be some great new machines

Post# 251303 , Reply# 28   9/25/2013 at 15:50 (3,836 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The only new Electrolux I tried was a couple of months ago when one of my mates bought the Electrolux Air Excel AS5200A (in the U.S I understand its the Eureka Air Excel). Its a great mover for a standard upright but its noisy and the hose has a habit of travelling back too much. I swapped it with my Vax Mach Air before it was sold, and my mate liked the Mach Air better, even though it doesn't have such a long hose on board. Would I buy one though? No, but I liked the blue and silver colour : )


Post# 251331 , Reply# 29   9/26/2013 at 02:38 (3,836 days old) by adamthemieleman (North Yorkshire )        

That's exactly the same as the AEG Powerlite All Floors that we sell, just a different colour

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Post# 251355 , Reply# 30   9/26/2013 at 08:15 (3,835 days old) by spiraclean (UK)        

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As to whether or not Electrolux are losing their way, I don't know. One thing I have noticed however, is that the group in general seems a little unsure about how to position its various brand names in recent years.

Used to be we had Parkinson Cowan for gas cooking, and Tricity Bendix for electric cooking and budget white goods. Both are gone now. Zanussi, once a mid-range brand, seems to be filling in for this spot at the moment, and some would say the products have gone seriously downhill in quality from what they were previously.

AEG was always the top end white goods and floorcare line, until the company decided to make Electrolux the flagship brand. AEG got demoted to mid-range status, by which time the vacuums had already disappeared completely. When the AEG name finally returned to vacuums, it was on what were previously Electrolux models. The Elux floorcare line itself then moved from the mid range more towards the budget end of the market.

Electrolux freestanding white goods then disappeared for a while, leaving AEG as the top of the line choice once more. Now we have freestanding Elux laundry appliances and dishwashers yet again, only this time very similar to the AEG line with nothing much to choose between them in terms of pricing or features. Makes it hard to tell which of the two is supposed to be the flagship brand now.

Now Electrolux have deleted their floorcare range in the UK, it's anyone's guess what will happen next. With existing models having been already rebranded as AEG and Zanussi, will Elux become a white goods-only brand from now on? Maybe the brand names will swap around again at some point in the future, or perhaps the company is merely clearing the decks in readiness to launch an entirely new Electrolux floorcare line. There has been so much to-ing and fro-ing over the years that's it's impossible to tell what their plans are.


Post# 251365 , Reply# 31   9/26/2013 at 11:00 (3,835 days old) by adamthemieleman (North Yorkshire )        

But Electrolux have launched new products under their own name haven't they? Aren't they behind the Ergorapido, and the Ultra lineup outside of the UK?
Bring back the old Contour that's what I say!


Post# 251376 , Reply# 32   9/26/2013 at 12:41 (3,835 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well.. in my experience.. AEG have always been a top of the line brand and Electrolux has always stood by that, even back in the day in the early 1990s, an AEG vacuum cleaner carried the famous "Made in Germany," moniker as a way to exude and promise extra built in quality. In some ways the Excellio carries this, even though it is an Electrolux vacuum.

Generally then for floorcare ranges from Electrolux, the umbrella companies share:

AEG - top of the line
Electrolux - Top & Middle of the line
Boss - The old offshoot name for budget vacuums.

Husqvarna & Flymo only had specialist vacuums in the 1980s and they didn't stay around for long, perhaps Electrolux's way of testing the UK market.

Now it looks like this:

AEG - Top of the line
Electrolux - Middle and bottom (as they still sell the Powerlite bagged upright "seasonally.")
Zanussi - The replacement for "Boss" budget vacuums.
John Lewis - Exclusive department store appliances for the large appliance market; the previous "HiLight bagged upright," was also sold under John Lewis, but JL already have a deal with Bosch to supply bagged cylinder vacuums.

I had the original Electrolux Ergorapido stick vac when it was first sold in the UK. When Electrolux went into promotion overdrive for AEG, it donated the next model replacement to AEG as well as the current Ultra series, again no doubt to promote the "Made in Germany," aspirations, even if the machines are either made in China or Hungary...

It is a terrible mess, really when you look at it. When you can see what Electrolux used to have in their floorcare ranges, its a smack in the mouth to the loyalists of the brand.

I also grew up with a few Tricity appliances but only when they were under the old Thorn EMI ownership company who also had Kenwood. Tricity fridges and some cookers also carried the electricity showroom brand "Electra." For Bendix, the home company was Kelvinator from Italy.
We had a replacement "stop gap" Bendix washer when our Hoover Electron 1300 called it a day and after the Bendix washer dryer returned to the Hoover brand for the Ecologic 1300 washer dryer - much better quality and general performance aside from expensive drive belt replacements in later years.




Post# 251388 , Reply# 33   9/26/2013 at 14:01 (3,835 days old) by adamthemieleman (North Yorkshire )        

The origins seem to be changing I've noticed. Zanussi is loosing it's selling point, my late nans FL1034 was a trooper, used once a week, I think it's still going today. That is because they were reliable and simple machines and always had been. The newer ones are fading away from this for example the ZWG series made by Little Swan. Why Electrolux needed to do this is beyond me, but if AEG and Electrolux are aimed at the higher end as they share the same manufacturing base in Italy. Some of the Zanussi's are labelled as Made in EU, so probably like Hotpoint/Indesit are moving production to Poland.
The whole point is that if Electrolux is is restructuring brands and cost cutting in the process, the Zanussi brand is likely to suffer. AEG perhaps less so, they seem to have more of a reputation to loose.


Post# 251397 , Reply# 34   9/26/2013 at 15:12 (3,835 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

All manufacturers are struggling, it would seem, and who can wonder why when retail prices are so low. None of them can afford to build high quality appliances when a consumer could buy two if not three, say, Bush washing machines instead of one half-decent Bosch.

Floorcare is a minefield of it's own, thanks to the shake-up which James Dyson gave it.


Post# 251405 , Reply# 35   9/26/2013 at 16:08 (3,835 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well, not all brands ARE struggling. If it was the case, the cost price of everything would go up including the budget brands. Argos Value's bagged cylinder vacuum that was priced at £22 a few months ago has dropped to £18 and they're not exactly selling like hotcakes. If Argos was suffering, there is no way that the price would be falling when you can't buy a new cylinder vacuum for £22 in general unless you consider other supermarket "rivals."

Also the world of TTI - Vax are releasing a new vacuum it seems every couple of months.


Post# 251700 , Reply# 36   9/30/2013 at 10:37 (3,831 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I emailed Electrolux a few days ago - it seems all of their floorcare ranges are being passed over to Zanussi and AEG. Electrolux will no longer be putting their own names to machines in the UK. That's really sad.

Post# 251702 , Reply# 37   9/30/2013 at 11:36 (3,831 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

I always knew that day would come eventually - how sad that the UK has lost one of it's once great brands of Vacuum Cleaner. They got worse & have now pulled out. Soon enough it will just be Dyson's on the Market. Most of Hoover's good range of Vacuum Cleaners are in other countries anyway.

Post# 251738 , Reply# 38   9/30/2013 at 20:09 (3,831 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well they haven't gone yet, they've just put everything to their other companies.

Post# 252929 , Reply# 39   10/14/2013 at 10:35 (3,817 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I was playing with my Excellio again the other day. What strikes me as being deeply ironic about this vacuum is that, despite its 3.5 litre dirt capacity, the vacuum could well be a hit with buyers NOW when compared to the likes of the Miele S700 series that have hit Tesco and Currys etc. If it was priced at £199 again, it would be a bargain based on its 10 metre cord on board, alone and similar Miele fixings due to the Wessel Werk tools and connections.

Despite it being expensive back in the day, the Excellio seems to be a vacuum cleaner very much in keeping with the times despite the weight. It is almost as if Electrolux were looking to the future with this vacuum cleaner when all things are considered.



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