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| Post# 249153 9/5/2013 at 08:51 (3,877 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
My E series arrived! It was bought off ebay for about $510 that's including shipping.
It was apparently a store demo model which has been lightly used. I've only had a little time to play with it but it so far it's pretty cool not a whole lot of airflow to it but the powerhead seems to be a very good cleaner. 
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| Post# 249157 , Reply# 1 9/5/2013 at 09:50 (3,877 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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Not a whole lot of airflow?? Surprising statement as I thought it had a new motor. I wonder how that affects it's water pick-up ability? | ||
| Post# 249158 , Reply# 2 9/5/2013 at 09:55 (3,877 days old) by williamr1248 (USA) | ||
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New (sort of) Rainbow Did your Machine come with the new direct drive side belt or the original middle drive belt? | ||
| Post# 249159 , Reply# 3 9/5/2013 at 10:00 (3,877 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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answers | ||
| Post# 249162 , Reply# 5 9/5/2013 at 10:28 (3,877 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 249164 , Reply# 6 9/5/2013 at 10:42 (3,877 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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Heh | ||
| Post# 249256 , Reply# 10 9/6/2013 at 13:22 (3,876 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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Thank you for your post Rob it is quite informative.
The hepa filter i've emailed Ken Bashford about to get that replaced. I have tried rinsing it out but whatever is on there is there to stay. The seperator i've cleaned. Though knowing it's suction and airwatts is great and working backwards using the formula of (airflow x suction) /8.5 = airwatts The Airflow should be about 25cfm So with the Hepa filter removed it is performing at about that level it was pulling about 8 cfm with the clogged filter. | ||
| Post# 249264 , Reply# 12 9/6/2013 at 14:53 (3,876 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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huh?
Many manufacturers when they take a cfm reading will measure at the motor to give it a higher number Take for example the Miele you will see a 140 cfm rating for them which is a motor rating but at the end of the hose you end up with about 55.
Dyson also gives higher ratings for it's vacuums than they can accomplish i will use the DC-11 canister since i have one. Looking at their spec sheet i can see a rating of 220 airwatts and 55 cfm with those numbers it would only have 34 inches of waterlift which places in it kirby territory. But my meter reads in at a 2 with it so using the figure of 20 cfm it would have 94" inches of waterlift. The baird meter is really more of a comparison tool however it seems that each number represents about 10 cfm. it's not completely accurate but it gives me an idea of what the machine is pulling. If the rainbow were pulling 110 cfm, It would have 1229 airwatts (110 x 95)/8.5= 1229, it would also read 10 on the baird meter. With the airwatt and suction rating the formula says 25 cfm the meter is reading at a 2.5 telling me it is pulling around 25 cfm at the end of that hose. | ||
| Post# 249268 , Reply# 13 9/6/2013 at 15:44 (3,876 days old) by williamr1248 (USA) | ||
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New (sort of) Rainbow That sounds right to me. I understand what you are telling. It sounds like you are on the right track to get your machine in order. | ||
| Post# 249345 , Reply# 15 9/7/2013 at 10:35 (3,875 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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Okay | ||
| Post# 249419 , Reply# 17 9/8/2013 at 01:41 (3,875 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
Dish soap???
NOOOOOOOO!!
You don't want FOAM in the basin at all!! It is damaging to a Rainbow! As for the adding dish soap to trap non wet(able) dirt....I just add a few drops of ESSENTIAL OIL........absolutely NO foam and wouldn't the OIL act in the same manner? I also know you can add a drop of JET DRY rinse aid for non wet(able)...But in all honestly, I can't think of anything that I vacuum that is non wet(able), but I add the oil or jet dry anyway.......Even the JET DRY foams if you add too much, so I just add a drop. | ||
| Post# 249482 , Reply# 19 9/8/2013 at 17:00 (3,874 days old) by williamr1248 (USA) | ||
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New (sort of) Rainbow I agree with Mark BUT I have never tired the HE Tide I use in the Maytag Neptune. You are right, even with our soft water , it has almost no suds. I am going to give it a try. | ||
| Post# 249491 , Reply# 20 9/8/2013 at 17:45 (3,874 days old) by man114 (Buffalo NY) | ||
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As I said I prrobably over exaggerated, but it is messy. I am not talking filling it up with a boatload of detergent so it looks like a washer in a TV sitcom overflowing. I'm talking a drop. HE detergent probably even better due to the lack of foam. | ||
| Post# 249531 , Reply# 22 9/8/2013 at 23:49 (3,874 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
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Well, the reason
I expected EVEN A drop of dish soap to foam up........is the fact that even if I use three drops of jet dry........that will start to FOAM too much......Just three drops, and rinse aid isn't even supposed to foam............So since dish soap IS supposed to foam, I figured even a drop would send it over the edge......I can see how the dirt would stop the foam, but believe it or not, it takes a a few minutes of vacuuming for me before the basin even starts to begin to look dirty.......I guess because I'm OCD so carpets are so clean....
I mean, EVEN the BIG GREEN bottle of Air Freshener from Rexair foams up. The only way I don't get any foam is if I used essential oil or the little bottles of the Rexair scents....I even tried Fabric softener once (the cheap liquid kind) and that foamed like CRAZY! I was shocked because I didn't think that stuff was supposed to foam at all. | ||
| Post# 249548 , Reply# 23 9/9/2013 at 06:11 (3,874 days old) by williamr1248 (USA) | ||
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New (sort of) Rainbow I was wondering about a kink in the hose effecting the air flow too. It looks like there might be a kink in the middle of the hose (just above and to the left of the floor tool) but it might just be the way the picture tuned out. | ||
| Post# 249550 , Reply# 24 9/9/2013 at 07:58 (3,873 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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Okay
I checked the hose over there is a spot where it's a little uneven it shouldn't effect the flow too badly.
I also ran water through the hose to check for clogs it looks like it just washed the dust on the inside of the hose out the water was a light grey. It was pulling a 2.5 when i straightened the hose it managed a 3 any bends or curves in a hose can effect airflow. Oh i should add that i cannot get a reading at the inlet because i cannot get a seal on it | ||
| Post# 249769 , Reply# 26 9/11/2013 at 03:11 (3,872 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
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I'm sorry to go off topic too......
But....Jet Dry makes the water "wetter". It increases the water's dirty trapping ability. I think oil based fragrances do as well, since the oil allows things to stick more easily to the water? Rainbow even sold this solution called "Aquawet" (not sure if they still do) and I've been told countless times that this is basically just the same thing as "dishwasher rinse aid"
Someone in another forum had mentioned they used Rubbing Alcohol in the dishwasher rinse aid dispenser because it also causes a sheeting action. I would have NEVER in a million years though to do that! It sounds like a good idea. Then I started wondering if pouring a little rubbing alcohol in the water basin would do the same thing as Jet Dry? It's really NOT an issue as long as you don't have any non-wettable dirt in your home that you're vacuuming........But it still adds a layer of protection I would think "just in case" something gets vacuumed that's not wettable. | ||
Post# 249951 , Reply# 28 9/12/2013 at 03:56 (3,871 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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Remember it says in the Rainbow owners manual-DO NOT PICK UP DRYWALL,PLASTER DUST or ASH with your Rainbow vacuum.Large amounts of that debris will clog the HEPA filter-so says the Rainbow book.So I don't use a Rainbow to clean up those things. | ||
| Post# 250017 , Reply# 29 9/12/2013 at 19:08 (3,870 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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Shop-type vacs are for vacing fireplace ash, plasterboard dust & Love My Carpet | ||
| Post# 250185 , Reply# 33 9/14/2013 at 08:18 (3,868 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
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A good example
of me being paranoid about picking up non wettable stuff. 99 percent of the time, I don't, but there are a few times that I have run into using my rainbow, I make it to the bathroom to vacuuming the tile floors and notice someone has used Shower to Shower body powder and some of it got on the floor. I'm no chemist, but I would think that would be AS BAD for a vacuum as drywall dust or carpet fresh. So I guess that's why I try to add a little scented oil or jet dry to the water "just in case"..It only take ONE time for that stuff to get into your hepa.
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| Post# 250407 , Reply# 34 9/16/2013 at 18:56 (3,866 days old) by marks_here (_._) | ||
I am the one
that started using jet dry in the basin to prevent the clear plastic from clouding up. I put it on a clean paper towel & wipe the entire inside, then I wait until it gets dry then I take a wash cloth & wipe any excess that still might be on there.
Using fabric softer WILL cloud the tank not to mention VOID any warranty because fabric softer is very slippery & the rainbow people know what's been vacuumed up. You can also ad a drop of bleach to kill any micro-organisms that might be in there and never use dish soap, laundry detergent in there because it will cause the inside of the motor to RUST!!! I have seen it at the Rainbow Store....trust me they know what's been used in there when they take it apart and also how it smells becuase it wasn't stored properly. I have seen what sheet rock dust can do, turns the entire inside white of the motor & into the circuit board so...they know what they are talking about. You can also clean your basin with Mother's Mag Rim Polish, and it does a wonderful job, make sure you get it all off the inside...makes old bowls look new??!! Ahyhow have a good one! Mark D :} | ||
| Post# 250409 , Reply# 35 9/16/2013 at 19:01 (3,866 days old) by joshdonnell () | ||
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New Rainbow I wouldn't ever use Bleach in a Rainbow . I hate bleach its toxic in my opinion . I would rather use tree tea oil it will kill anything in the Basin | ||
| Post# 250618 , Reply# 38 9/19/2013 at 06:08 (3,864 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
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Making the water wetter
must help in *some* ways, otherwise why would Rexair have made this for those occasions?
This is the stuff I was talking about that I've been told is nothing more than dishwasher rinse aid.........Though I can't be sure. CLICK HERE TO GO TO mark40511's LINK | ||
| Post# 250891 , Reply# 39 9/22/2013 at 05:56 (3,861 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
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I think I posted these a while back
but will all this "Rainbow" talk recently, I'll add to this post.
After having used my Rainbow over 5 years I decided to change the filter. I purchased a "generic filter" on Ebay and I can't tell the difference at all....... I cut into the hepa and tore it all apart to see what it looked like. It was very hard to tell in the case....It looks worse in the pic than it did in person, but as you can tell, it's not very dirty at all....so perhaps the drop or jetdry helps. The fans aren't dirty either....... 
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| Post# 250892 , Reply# 40 9/22/2013 at 05:57 (3,861 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
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fans | ||
| Post# 251473 , Reply# 41 9/27/2013 at 23:40 (3,855 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
For anybody reading this & wondering about using Jet Dry in the water basin to help make the water more "wettable" & help capture more dust....I just bought a E Series E2 one speed model, & have been experimenting a bit. I have figured out that you can add 1/8 measuring teaspoon of Jet Dry to the water. Using any more than that will cause the water to foam up. Also interesting to note, the shop I bought the Rainbow from says that using 1 tablespoon of Vinegar will also make the water more "wettable" & help reduce the amount of dust that gets passed to the HEPA filter.
Rob | ||
| Post# 251496 , Reply# 42 9/28/2013 at 08:10 (3,854 days old) by joshdonnell () | ||
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Rainbow I was wondering is the Hepa filter Moisture resistant? | ||
| Post# 251572 , Reply# 43 9/28/2013 at 23:48 (3,854 days old) by rainbowjoel (Dexter NM) | ||
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I use Sugar I warm up the water so sugar dissolves easier than cold water. I put 3 teaspoons in warm water and stir it. Then I add it to basin and fill up the basin with water. my fans on D4c and E2 still look cleaned. I had bad luck with jet-dry foaming. lol | ||
| Post# 251601 , Reply# 44 9/29/2013 at 08:39 (3,853 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
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vinegar | ||
| Post# 251608 , Reply# 45 9/29/2013 at 10:16 (3,853 days old) by rainbowjoel (Dexter NM) | ||
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Eww I hate the smell of vinegar. Lol | ||
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