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Post# 248749   9/2/2013 at 05:14 (3,883 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

My first and skeptical foray into modern dysons, having only been exposed to DC14's and below so far!

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Picked it up last night for £20 (how the mighty have fallen) and the brief look I've had of it, and the subsequent googling thereafter show the brushroll motor may be scrap, but I haven't stripped it down yet.

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It's tiny. Missus took the piss out of it when I bought it home, thought it was a toy for Eva, and told me off for spending £20 on a toy! She too kthe piss even more then I turned it on and heard the horrible noise coming from it!

Still, £20, what have I got to loose! Will try and start stripping it down later

Post# 248751 , Reply# 1   9/2/2013 at 05:19 (3,883 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Oh MY GOD!!! Where did you get it? £20?!?!?! Lucky! I want one :D at the carboot yesterday I saw the DC24 cleaner head for sale with brushbar etc for £10, dunno if it was burnt out or not though

Post# 248753 , Reply# 2   9/2/2013 at 05:20 (3,883 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Oh MY GOD!!! Where did you get it? £20?!?!?! Lucky! I want one :D at the carboot yesterday I saw the DC24 cleaner head for sale with brushbar etc for £10, dunno if it was burnt out or not though

Post# 248754 , Reply# 3   9/2/2013 at 05:56 (3,883 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Our local facebook selling page. Woman wanted £35 for it, I offered £20 and she said come round! Think she was moving.

Shame I didn't get it before you went to the carboot then, looking on ebay good heads are commanding high prices, and forum posts from ManchesterVacs seems to confirm this.

However, I can find nowhere on the net where people have tried to repair the motors, so who knows, I may be able to strip it down, or just smash it up with a big hammer and find a cheap working motor!

Post# 248757 , Reply# 4   9/2/2013 at 07:32 (3,883 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        
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 Oh no, :( Im sorry, I would have bought it for you though, maybe you can get it modified. :]

Post# 248758 , Reply# 5   9/2/2013 at 07:39 (3,883 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

PS just to let you know, that is a later DC24 because of the plug, /Early Models of DC24 and DC25 had the grey square ones till the late ones had the triangular plugs that match the vacuum's colourm (iron) and lol it was funny when you told us how your missus blazed the Dyson. :P

Post# 248759 , Reply# 6   9/2/2013 at 07:53 (3,883 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
The local shop

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Has had a few of the 24s in the plastic shaft that connects the brushroll and the gear for the belt tends to snap i think i've seen about 3 of them now with that issue

Post# 248761 , Reply# 7   9/2/2013 at 08:24 (3,883 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

They seem to be made of chocolate, mine certainly creaks alot. It also doesnt like standing upright and locking itself up, have to push really hard. Hopeing a good stripdown will sort it. Looks like a proper in-depth job though.

Can get a DC04 in bits within an hour, Turbopower in about 15 minutes. Imagine this will turn into a long term project, must remember to take pictures of everything so I know where it goes!

Post# 248774 , Reply# 8   9/2/2013 at 10:54 (3,882 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Whwn I repaired the dc41animal, the build quality was like a polystyrene dyson and the thing also needed to be pushed hard for it to stand upright and the suction was not even as good as a dc04

demons dc37 onwards are total barber toy pieces of junk apart from the digital slim dc 44

dyson will never make a vacuum better than their dc 01 to dc27 models

Post# 248808 , Reply# 9   9/2/2013 at 16:12 (3,882 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        
Not enjoying this very much!

 Stupid fiddly thing

Started off by actually seeing whats wrong with it (turn your speakers down for the vid!)





However, by doing that I found out it's the main motor thats making that horrible racket, the brushroll spins ok!

So I had it apart

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brushroll out

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lots of teeny tiny torx screws later the cover comes off

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Motor and gubbins out

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The last pic of this alive...

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Tested it by plugging the motor into the unit, holding it in my hand, closing my ears and turning it on. Motor span a treat

A DC04's worth of screws already

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vent hole full of fluff

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Pile of stuff for washing

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All washed up and dried, I put it back together. I then had the bright idea of taking the cog out to get to the bearing beneath to give it a clean up to avoid premature expiry

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Buggar... Anyone know where to just get the plastic cog and housing that clips onto the motor?
Put the head together so I don't loose anything and left the sodding thing alone for now!

Post# 248899 , Reply# 10   9/3/2013 at 02:27 (3,882 days old) by spiraclean (UK)        

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You're a braver man than I am. Stripping normal Dysons is easy enough, but having seen what it takes to disassemble the Ball models I decided early on not to even go there. The ball itself is a treat, with lots of thin, easily broken wires running at sharp angles and getting pinched :o)

The 24 is a cool looking vacuum, and once you get over how hilariously small it looks, it's quite nice to use. Really wasn't too happy about the build quality though, or the fact that it's far too complex in design for the job it does. Three weeks later mine went on eBay, and fortunately I made close to what I'd paid for it. I've since come to the conclusion that late model Dysons are not my thing.

As for the brushroll motor drive housing, as far as I'm aware these are not available as a spare part, rather the whole thing is sold as an assembly. Your best bet in this case would probably be Manchester Vacs. They break Dysons for spares, and may be able to sell you just that part alone. Failing that, they will have the complete assembly available for a much lower price. If you speak to them they are usually very helpful and will do their best to find what you actually need, rather than trying to upsell you.

Post# 248903 , Reply# 11   9/3/2013 at 04:23 (3,882 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

I'm hoping to not spend too much on it! Got the motor out and everything cleaned yesterday, need to bring my socket set home to get the motor apart and see whats up with that, it spins fine by hand!

Got the main chassis to do now, and looking at all the springs and valves scares me a bit! May put the motor housing back together first.

There's also thousands of screws, just had to order a nice little set of long torx bits to get at some!

Post# 248905 , Reply# 12   9/3/2013 at 04:56 (3,882 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Listening to that, it sounds like either the fan has something trapped inside it (was used with the pre-motor filter missing, or something was put down the inlet tube to the motor), or the worst case scenario is that the motor bearings are shot.

Usually with the DC24, its the brushroll motor assembly that fails rather than the suction motor - they were renowned for it.

I'm sure all will be revealed when you remove the suction motor?

The DC15 I have is one model I never took apart, as it too is very complex, and actually has the control module built into the airflow pipe between the cylinder and the motor inlet so that the airflow cools the components.
Post# 248907 , Reply# 13   9/3/2013 at 06:18 (3,882 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

The filters were comically bad, am hoping it's something simple like that!

Once the motor is all stripped, I'll put it back together to check progress before I strip the rest of the machine! The fan blades are caked in hair and other rubbish, but dont think that would cause that noise surely. Can't feel anything catching when spinning by hand, although the bearings feel a little dry

Post# 248908 , Reply# 14   9/3/2013 at 06:49 (3,882 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)        

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How did the hair get past the pre-motor filter? I wonder if it was used without one in place and that's what has caused the problem?

I don't know how you have the patience Sam lol

Post# 248911 , Reply# 15   9/3/2013 at 07:07 (3,882 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

I think it worked its way through the filter, judging by the state of it.

ManchesterVacs came up trumps, new cog assembly for a smidge under £6 delivered! If all else fails I can hopefully flog the working brush assembly for the cost of the machine!

I have the patience, just not always the time!

Post# 249026 , Reply# 16   9/4/2013 at 02:04 (3,881 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        
Stupid thing

 Had another go at this last night. Bought my socket set home and tried to take the fan off and the thing wouldnt budge. I was bending the fan slightly doing it so left it in the end. As it spun ok by hand I thought it would be ok, so spent 2 frigging hours fiddling the bottom half of the machine together, plugged it in and...


No better, the motor is shot.
Put the thing back together so I dont loose anything, and will either look for a new motor for peanuts or sell the thing as broken and try to get my money back. Bought a new part from ManchesterVacs for it, which is useless now, however might be my best chance of getting my money back for the machine, since working heads are rare!

On a more positive note I picked up a DC14 All Floors in great condition, just needing a clutch rebuild last night for £11, so hopefully that will be alot nicer to rebuild!

I did take more pictures of the 24, but cba to upload them now. Even if I do get it working, I wouldnt want to sell it anyway, to oscared it will break on the new owner and lumber me with a bad reputation, so it'll probably go to amys mum anyway!

Post# 249041 , Reply# 17   9/4/2013 at 09:48 (3,880 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Whoah, good job you didn't pay the full £35 for it! good job haggling :D I love doing it too at carboots, and where did you get the dc14 from for how much? :D Ty because i got a dc14 blitz it blown up for £16 off eBay

Ps Hows the dc01?

Post# 249042 , Reply# 18   9/4/2013 at 09:59 (3,880 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Whoah, good job you didn't pay the full £35 for it! good job haggling :D I love doing it too at carboots, and where did you get the dc14 from for how much? :D Ty because i got a dc14 blitz it blown up for £16 off eBay

Ps Hows the dc01?

Post# 249049 , Reply# 19   9/4/2013 at 11:59 (3,880 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

£11 for the 14, just turned it on and I think the brushrolls jammed. No bother, those bearings strip down a treat!

Dc01 is fine, gets used every now and again. Rarely any fluff but lots of grit. It's up for sale locally for £20 ono with the cracked but repaired wand. No interest so far but I'm in no rush for it to go.

DC24 owes me about £35 now anyway, I got a combo tool for it on Monday, and the new part for the brushrolls.

Will either stick it in the garage for now, they seem to go on eBay for pennies with broken brushrolls but good motors. Will wait for one to cone up locally and try to grab it.

Post# 249075 , Reply# 20   9/4/2013 at 14:09 (3,880 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Cool, theres a £14 start dc01 destijl in Birmingham, local to me, and hope to get it :D my dc14 is my daily vacuum

Post# 249084 , Reply# 21   9/4/2013 at 16:10 (3,880 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

I think the 14 is my favourite so far. Vacuumed with my animal earlier and it came up well.

All that's wrong with my new 14 was the brushroll had jammed against the end cap. Brushroll out, end cap off, end cap on, brushroll back in and boom it spins a treat. Has also been used for plaster dust, so utterly filthy and no suction with the filter in. Bargain! DC24 is still discrased!

Post# 249267 , Reply# 22   9/6/2013 at 15:18 (3,878 days old) by RootCyclone (East Midlands,UK.)        
Modern Dysons

 The DC24 isn't a bad modern Dyson vac. But I feel it's big brother, the DC25, is worth the extra pennies. A bit more reliable too, especially down at the cleaner head.

But still, my favourite Dyson and favourite vacuum cleaner of all time is the Dyson DC14 Animal.

Post# 249270 , Reply# 23   9/6/2013 at 16:24 (3,878 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

I dont know why, but the Dyson DC14 Blitz It ( Red) is probs the best vacuum we ever had! its reliable, it gets bashed into furniture, has excellent suction, my brother was carrying a HEAVY bag and dropped it which also contained fine powder, like 2 litres of it! I vacuumed it with the dc14 and I was expecting a dirty filter, but I was GOBSMACKED! NO dust on the filter! The hepa filter also has a nice rubber seal and filters excellent, clutch works brilliant, i just need to get it a new brushbar and bin flap, and also a crevice tool because they are either worn outthe dc14 is my best vac, i wouldnt trade it for a dc41 dc37 dc39 dc50 dcwhatever put together, thats how good my dc14 is, its the perfect vacuum for my house! But it is a little bit fiddly putting the wand back in as its not as easy to slide in compared to the dc01 or dc25 etc, the dc04 has a smooth design :)


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