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Thread Number: 22135
Vax 121 Boxed - Used 3 times |
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| Post# 248287 , Reply# 2 8/29/2013 at 14:17 (3,886 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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Excellent, means I posted in the right forum! The hose end does look more 2000'ish than what I've seen before on 121's. | ||
| Post# 248296 , Reply# 5 8/29/2013 at 15:16 (3,886 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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Didn't know the 121 lived until that late, although it makes sense as the 6131 lives on and thats ancient now! Paid £40, which I was happy with. Happier now it only cost me £20! Still debating whether to break its washing virginity, got a rapids head in the garage which might work... | ||
| Post# 248299 , Reply# 7 8/29/2013 at 15:27 (3,886 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
As the owner of the Powa model (4000) we also had that dreadful turbo brush and the Automop- Hoover, Miele, Sebo and Morphy Richards all had the turbo brushes too but instead of fitting silly metal sliders on the base, the other brands had wheels on them. Miele had a rotary dial air outlet suction dial, SEBO with a simple vented grid,permanently covered over with just a metal slip.
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| Post# 248306 , Reply# 8 8/29/2013 at 16:12 (3,886 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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Great I'd love one like that:) | ||
| Post# 248317 , Reply# 9 8/29/2013 at 17:09 (3,886 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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I hate tgat power plus turbo head, it came with my dc14 and it span slowly | ||
| Post# 248318 , Reply# 10 8/29/2013 at 17:20 (3,886 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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Had another play And put the washing kit together for the first time ever. 
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| Post# 248319 , Reply# 11 8/29/2013 at 17:22 (3,886 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
it came with my dc14 and it span slowly
the speed at which an air driven turbo brush spins is defined by the suction generated by the machine. The problem their was more than likely down to the fact that the DC14 was crap full stop, rather than the actual brush itself.
Out of interest, did you get this Vax turbo brush with it? Dyson turbo brushes are actually nothing like these old Vax ones, so it wouldn't have come with one new like that. | ||
| Post# 248320 , Reply# 12 8/29/2013 at 17:22 (3,886 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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Always used to get excited when Mum set ours up back in the day 
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| Post# 248321 , Reply# 13 8/29/2013 at 17:24 (3,886 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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Stand-off! 
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| Post# 248331 , Reply# 15 8/29/2013 at 18:26 (3,886 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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No, the dc14 was NOT crap, worked 100%fine and had full suction, I know, I stripped it down and cleaned everything, still mafe no difference, dyson dc14 is good! | ||
| Post# 248332 , Reply# 16 8/29/2013 at 18:30 (3,886 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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It was on the eand at the xarboot sale, see my birmingh carboot thread to se | ||
| Post# 248366 , Reply# 17 8/30/2013 at 04:50 (3,885 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 248368 , Reply# 18 8/30/2013 at 05:09 (3,885 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire ) | ||
dc14's
are just an average performing vacuuming, with a well thought out design, they block if you suck up something stupid with them, personally I would rather use my other vacuums but if it was the only vacuum in my house it wouldn't be the end of the world, I've never had build quality as an issue then again I am using turbo power 1's, and yes they are crappy on the carpet but aren't most clean airs?
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| Post# 248380 , Reply# 21 8/30/2013 at 09:05 (3,885 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Do you mean this "Rapide" floor head?
I bought one when the original full size clear one went on my Powa. This one is absolutely rubbish. For a start the feeder tube is designed to go to the underside - and ended up buying new tube from a garden centre to stretch it into the floor head - plus it seems to scratch carpets if that makes any sense - it puts the shampoo down fine but it is terrible at sucking up the dirt and excess water put down. It does have an interchangeable sole plate for hard floors but I was never impressed with it. Vax have recently put out a "spin scrub" floor head for their most recent canisters. 
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| Post# 248381 , Reply# 22 8/30/2013 at 09:10 (3,885 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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The Spin Scrub - shown here. Amazon UK sells it for £41, Vax selling it for £49-99
CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK 
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| Post# 248391 , Reply# 24 8/30/2013 at 11:24 (3,885 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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No its got a hole in the top for the solution tube. May see if I can borrow my nans wash head, failing that there's a whole Vax minus hose in awful condition but has the wash head! Seems a bit excessive though | ||
| Post# 248403 , Reply# 25 8/30/2013 at 13:43 (3,885 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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I would probably recommend the Vax 121 head from your nans - they tend to suck up moisture better. Going ti any carboots? | ||
| Post# 248404 , Reply# 26 8/30/2013 at 13:44 (3,885 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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Doubt it this weekend, unless there's one on in Peterborough this weekend! | ||
| Post# 248412 , Reply# 27 8/30/2013 at 15:30 (3,885 days old) by spiraclean (UK) | ||
Sam,
If the head you speak of is the black Ultra Rapide one as pictured below, it will work just fine with your 121. The Rapide 5130 I had years ago came with one of these, and that was a gravity fed machine too. Both this and the standard clear wash tool are fully interchangeable, although which one you like best is a matter of personal taste. Back in the day, this tool was sold as an optional extra in much the same way as the turbobrush and AutoMop, enabling existing Vax owners to upgrade to the newer style wash head. The main selling points were that the Ultra Rapide had a double swivel neck, making it more manoeuvrable, and wheels to help it push more easily across the carpet. I seem to recall Comet having these on sale at the time for around £25, usually displayed with other consumables such as bags, filters, shampoo etc. Personally I always thought the Ultra Rapide head was far better than the current style we have now. It was designed to work on both pumped and gravity fed machines, and being slightly narrower, concentrated the suction down into the carpet better. The new one is utter garbage, as is the SpinScrub head. This is why I would no longer consider Vax if I was in the market for a 3-in-1 canister. 
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| Post# 248429 , Reply# 28 8/30/2013 at 18:33 (3,885 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 248430 , Reply# 29 8/30/2013 at 18:46 (3,885 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Couldn't believe how much drier the carpet felt after being washed with the 101 & 121 compared to the 6131. | ||
| Post# 248562 , Reply# 30 9/1/2013 at 04:43 (3,883 days old) by spiraclean (UK) | ||
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Yep, the original wash head was probably the best performing of all. I did find it backbreaking to use though, having to stoop in order to keep it at the correct angle against the carpet while also working against the suction of the machine. In those respects I found the Ultra Rapide much more comfortable to use.
The original wide wash tool was great for stairs though, so I bought one to compliment the UR head. Much quicker and easier than trying to clean a full flight with the dinky little upholstery wash tool. Carpet dryness is an issue I noted with the current Vax canisters. The suction opening on today's wash head is quite large, whereas the original and the Ultra Rapide both had a thinner, narrower slot that concentrated the suction better. The old clear wash tool was also designed in such a way that it was virtually impossible to overwet the carpet, even if the user was negligent. Because it sealed itself down onto the carpet, and had suction slots fore and aft of the liquid supply, the solution kept circulating at all times and could not puddle underneath the head. It really was quite clever in how it enabled everyday members of the public, who had no training whatsoever, to wet clean their own carpets with very minimal risk of damage. | ||
| Post# 248606 , Reply# 31 9/1/2013 at 11:52 (3,883 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well said, Spira - I completely agree - it is a back wrenching exercise with that original floor head and as ours proved, despite Vax suggestion of spraying furniture polish onto the cuff of the collar, dirt would often find its way onto the metal pipe, thus causing the floor head to be a real bugg*r to remove!
Effectively knowing that the Vax uses 32mm fittings, couldn't an alternative tool from say, Goblin for shampooing be used, or even from Numatic, Hoover and others? | ||
| Post# 248611 , Reply# 32 9/1/2013 at 12:33 (3,883 days old) by spiraclean (UK) | ||
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Getting the wash head stuck onto the extension tubes was something I struggled with too. Never seemed to be an issue with the Hoover Aquamaster or Electrolux Masterlux though, oddly enough. Usually I resorted to heating the parts under the hot tap, wrapping them in a dry cloth for extra grip and then pulling and twisting with all my might to separate them.
I'm not sure a traditional gravity fed Vax would work with any other shampoo tool other than their own. The solution is only under very slight pressure from the motor exhaust, other than that the suction is what really helps to draw the fluid through the system (via the carpet pile). Ditto the Hoover Aquamaster, which worked in almost exactly the same way. A pumped unit, on the other hand, would be a different matter. That would work just fine with any "spray" type extraction head, provided you could adapt the connections to suit. This is why I kept the tools and fittings from my dead Electrolux Masterlux - if another modern Vax comes along in the future, I'll throw the tools away and use the Lux ones in their place, which would result in a pretty decent shampooing setup. | ||
| Post# 248654 , Reply# 33 9/1/2013 at 14:37 (3,883 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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I have my name head for a week and it has the old Vax usual of a taped cuff as its cracked! Will get some pictures soon and then shampoo with it! | ||
| Post# 248669 , Reply# 34 9/1/2013 at 17:13 (3,883 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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differences One of these heads has never been used. One has had over 20 years use, including much building work cleanup... 
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| Post# 248679 , Reply# 35 9/1/2013 at 19:37 (3,883 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 250083 , Reply# 37 9/13/2013 at 12:32 (3,871 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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After some more shampooing, and stripping and cleaning the turbo head, I packed the Vax away for now 
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| Post# 250084 , Reply# 38 9/13/2013 at 12:33 (3,871 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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All boxed up. Got the brand new automop for a tenner delivered 
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