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Post# 245617   8/14/2013 at 06:49 (1,924 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Hello all,

I've just had a thought cross my mind. You see, I prefer bagged vacuums to bagless vacuums, but I don't mind certain bagless machines.

So I was wondering, what do you think in your opinion is your favorite bagless machine? Upright and cylinder.

For me, my favorite bagless upright has to be the Dyson DC04, and my Favorite bagless cylinder would have to be either the Dyson DC02, or the Dyson DC05.

I look forward to hearing your opinions!

Joe




This post was last edited 08/14/2013 at 16:22



Post# 245620 , Reply# 1   8/14/2013 at 06:54 (1,924 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Best at doing what?

These 'bagless' threads dont half get me.

Best at filtering?
Best at carpet cleaning?
Best at stair cleaning?
Best at ease of emptying without dust inhilation/dust clouds?

So far there is no perfect bagless.

Dyson cant clean deep dirt for toffee.
Morphy Richards of a certain era are 'chocolate teapots' for filtering.
Vax Bubbles dont do stairs for love nor money.

need I go on?


Post# 245624 , Reply# 2   8/14/2013 at 07:35 (1,924 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Just best in other people opinions. Not what they're best at, just what people like the most.

I agree that most bagless vacuums can't do most of those things.

I should really have titled this thread "Your Favorite Bagless Vacuum".

Joe


Post# 245634 , Reply# 3   8/14/2013 at 09:18 (1,924 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        

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I've owned several bagless vac's over the years, The Morphy Richards Lift Away (Shark Navigator Lift Away) is by far my favourite so far. It's light, easy to manoeuvre, good at deep cleaning and the lift away canister is very useful.The turbo brush has two rows of red lint catchers.

It is by no means perfect. The hose is not very stretchy and the post canister foam filter gets dirty very quickly. I wash it once a week in soapy water and let dry overnight and so far I haven't had to clean the pre-motor felt filter or the HEPA one. I would not pay the full MRRP, but for 99 I think I got a great little vacuum. You can now pick them up really cheaply on Ebay.


Post# 245638 , Reply# 4   8/14/2013 at 10:27 (1,924 days old) by FantomFan (Rochester, New York)        
I chose the Fantom Thunder/ Original Fantom

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Why?
Because not many more bagless vacuums will last more than 15 years. (If taken care of properly, and yes, I do know that the Dc01, and the Amways have lasted longer)
Also, this is the best bagless vacuum I have ever used for carpets Yes, this is a bit biased, but still, you have to admit that it will outclean most, if not all other bagless machines. The ages of mine are 13, 16, 18, and 18 years old. All still work well. Most new bagless models won't make it to 5-6 years. Also, the design of the fantom is simpler than dysons. Simple belt, simple tools, better carpet cleaning. Yes, I will admit, that the best thunders you see have only "average" suction power, and some of the tabs on the fantom's plastic is easy to break off, but, It has a good brushroll so it cleans great on carpet. Some don't like it, but I like the design of the fantom, as I like mechanical as opposed to eye catching. To me, looks don't decide how good the vacuum is. Yes, I think the Dc07 is better than I though it would be, but It is not the best. On hoover baglesses, I don't have any interest in the new hoover baglesses, I am not interested in them. Too much cheapness. The older hoover baglesses, such as the windtunnel, or empower, In my experience, clean great, but have the horrible tower filters. They are only good if you are willing to maintain them. Eureka whirlwinds are ok, but I hate all of those filters, and the poor design of the dust cup. That's just my opinion though.


Post# 245639 , Reply# 5   8/14/2013 at 10:28 (1,924 days old) by FantomFan (Rochester, New York)        
I chose the Fantom Thunder/ Original Fantom

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Why?
Because not many more bagless vacuums will last more than 15 years. (If taken care of properly, and yes, I do know that the Dc01, and the Amways have lasted longer)
Also, this is the best bagless vacuum I have ever used for carpets Yes, this is a bit biased, but still, you have to admit that it will outclean most, if not all other bagless machines. The ages of mine are 13, 16, 18, and 18 years old. All still work well. Most new bagless models won't make it to 5-6 years. Also, the design of the fantom is simpler than dysons. Simple belt, simple tools, better carpet cleaning. Yes, I will admit, that the best thunders you see have only "average" suction power, and some of the tabs on the fantom's plastic is easy to break off, but, It has a good brushroll so it cleans great on carpet. Some don't like it, but I like the design of the fantom, as I like mechanical as opposed to eye catching. To me, looks don't decide how good the vacuum is. Yes, I think the Dc07 is better than I though it would be, but It is not the best. On hoover baglesses, I don't have any interest in the new hoover baglesses, I am not interested in them. Too much cheapness. The older hoover baglesses, such as the windtunnel, or empower, In my experience, clean great, but have the horrible tower filters. They are only good if you are willing to maintain them. Eureka whirlwinds are ok, but I hate all of those filters, and the poor design of the dust cup. That's just my opinion though.


Post# 245640 , Reply# 6   8/14/2013 at 10:30 (1,924 days old) by FantomFan (Rochester, New York)        
I'm sorry

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I did a double post. Somebody please remove the copy. I don't have an upgraded account so I can't do it on my own. -Mitchell

Post# 245643 , Reply# 7   8/14/2013 at 10:44 (1,924 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Thanks for your replies!

I've heard great things about the Liftaway, I'd love to try one someday!

I don't know much about the Fantom, were they available here in the UK?

Joe


Post# 245645 , Reply# 8   8/14/2013 at 10:52 (1,924 days old) by jade_angel (Newport News, VA)        

I think I'd say Filter Queen (and of Filter Queens, either the 31 or the 95X), though some would claim that it's not really bagless since there is a disposable filter. This same standard would probably exclude Silver King. If not for those, then probably the Dyson DC04.

I really want to like the Fantom Lightning, but its utter lack of durability in my experience kinda hoses the deal. Unfortunately, none of Dyson's canisters ever really wowed me (which is a shame, because I actually rather like Dyson uprights, and I generally prefer canisters overall).


Post# 245646 , Reply# 9   8/14/2013 at 10:58 (1,924 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I totally forgot about Filter Queen! I got to use one at George (Dysondestijl's) house a couple of days ago. I really liked it! Great machines.

Joe


Post# 245650 , Reply# 10   8/14/2013 at 11:17 (1,924 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I have to agree with Rob - The first thing I read was "Whats the best bagless vacuum ever," in so far as what has been the best ever produced. Trouble is, in my mind there is no "best bagless vacuum ever," that I can think of. Some come close like Vax Mach Air - "at last, a multicyclonic like Dyson that doesn't cost an arm and a leg to buy..."

Frankly as a collector, I don't think there is even the most perfect vacuum cleaner because there are so many variables that would have to be taken on in the first place before a machine can be called "perfect." Bagged vacuums have few downsides compared to bagless. Sadly the market has become so heavily infiltrated with the old Dual Cyclone copies that it impossible to tell the good from the bad. I'm not even referring to the hoses, tools and carpet performance but rather the filter system itself and how brands have chosen to produce them on the machines themselves.

If an owner has to take apart more than two filters to clean the machine, it's not moving on.


Post# 245651 , Reply# 11   8/14/2013 at 11:21 (1,924 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Yes Ryan, you're right there. I wish there was someway I could change the title.

Post# 245652 , Reply# 12   8/14/2013 at 11:23 (1,924 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I've sorted the title now.

Sorry for any confusion.

Joe


Post# 245653 , Reply# 13   8/14/2013 at 11:28 (1,924 days old) by RootCyclone (East Midlands,UK.)        

Best bagless? Well that's easy - The Dyson DC14 is the best bagless. As a whole though Dyson vacuums are the best bagless! :)

Post# 245658 , Reply# 14   8/14/2013 at 12:01 (1,924 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Mine would be the Dyson dc28 airmuscle
dc41 and dc18


Post# 245659 , Reply# 15   8/14/2013 at 12:05 (1,924 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        
The first and best is the ...

The first and best bagless is the amazing Rainbow. After all, wet dust can't fly, unless of course it's not wettable. The latest version is the most refined. If only the price and sales pitch weren't so ridiculous....

Post# 245660 , Reply# 16   8/14/2013 at 12:10 (1,924 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Fantom, All the way!

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Owning models DC07,DC14 & DC17, I'd take my Fantom Thunder over any Dyson ANY day!

The DC07 I had was ABSOLUTE Rubbish- The carry handle snapped off, the suction tube is falling apart, The wand release has snapped off, And I've used it no more than 5-7 times! That's Ridiculous.

However, The Thunder has been going STRONG. Sure, It may not have all the power of others, But how said you needed all that power, just to clean a rug! Look at the hoover Convertibles, 3 Amps sure does clean that rug!

 

One plus I can see in bagless is that you suck in things you wouldn't with a bagged cleaner, Like say your bag of jelly beans have exploded all over the floor- You don't blow-trough bags cleaning it up.

 

The Fantom Fury is also an All-right performer, and both machines are EXCELLANT on dog hair!

 

-Alex.


Post# 245672 , Reply# 17   8/14/2013 at 13:27 (1,924 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Not sure what you're saying about jelly beans in a bagless vac - try glass - my Miele cylinder vacs are great for that.

Post# 245674 , Reply# 18   8/14/2013 at 13:32 (1,924 days old) by dysonman1 (Missouri)        
My favorite...

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AND the "Best" bagless vacuum ever made - my mother's Rainbow model D. Purchased 18 days before I was born. It's 51 years old and still runs perfectly. It smells like 'nothing' when you use it, because the dirt never was stored in the vacuum. I can empty THIS bagless inside the house, pouring the dirty water down the commode, so I never have to touch it, breath it, or see it ever again. For those on the other side of the pond, we had the World's First bagless vacuum that doesn't lose suction, way back in 1936 when the Rexair (now the Rainbow) was first sold.

Post# 245675 , Reply# 19   8/14/2013 at 13:36 (1,924 days old) by dysonman1 (Missouri)        
A New Dawn...

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The brown model A was the world's first bagless vacuum (1936). The black model B followed in April, 1940. It's pictured with the optional commercial water pan that holds a gallon and a half of water. Any non-wettable dust (like coal dust or fireplace ashes) were caught by the 'muffler' (a sort of Hepa filter) under the lid. Ironic that this filter was washable. James Dyson invented NOTHING.

Post# 245678 , Reply# 20   8/14/2013 at 13:46 (1,924 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Well, I cannot abide bagless and don't own one. But I have owned and used many over the years, so putting my personal preferences aside, here is my 2 penneth...

The best bagless cyclone is Dyson. To give Dyson their due, they do put a LOT of time, effort, funding and thought into ways to make the cyclone more efficient and ways to keep the suction maintained as best as possible. So for that, Mr. D, I applaud you. However, you get a Dyson on a thick pile carpet and it'll either shred the carpet fibres or skim the surface. The DC07 and DC14 were DREADFUL for that.

The best bagless cleaner, in terms of carpet performance that I've used would probably be the old bagless Panasonic Icon. Although the cyclone wasn't particularly great, that direct drive brushroll REALLY lifted the carpet and agitated it well. Something that no Dyson I have ever used has ever come close to doing. For a modern bagless upright, the AEG Nimble probably has the best carpet pick up/grooming, but it wasn't the greatest design in the world. I think Electrolux must have been being ironic when they named it "Nimble".

The Morphy Richards above I have not had a great deal of experience with, but from what I used, I was midly impressed with it's performance and the price is right, so they seem like a good option.

For me, as long as the cleaner has a proper No Loss Of Suction cyclone, then you're safe. It's these horrid, cheap, low efficiency, direct filter cyclones that I hate - nasty, clogging messes!


Post# 245679 , Reply# 21   8/14/2013 at 13:52 (1,924 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
James Dyson invented NOTHING

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well I dont think Britain had that rexair also he did invent a clear bin and quite frankly that rexair looks like a plant pot I know which one I would of bought

Post# 245680 , Reply# 22   8/14/2013 at 13:55 (1,924 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
James Dyson invented NOTHING.

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That's quite true. The cyclone design he originally nicked his idea from was one used for years as a dust extraction method in saw mills, all he did was take that and shoved it on a vacuum cleaner.

I strongly object to his claims of being "the first bagless vacuum" or even "the first cyclonic vacuum". You take an Electrolux 345, open the bag door and turn it on, and watch the dust cyclone around inside the bag, creating a clear steam of air through the middle of the bag.


Post# 245685 , Reply# 23   8/14/2013 at 14:48 (1,924 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)        

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Chris I agree with you about the Nimble I have put salt on the floor to test the agitation and the salt did bounce about, it also lifts the carpet pile nicely but after a few months I don't think the cyclone is too great as the filter is getting a good covering every month but overall I like it a great deal.

However my favourite bagless was my old Electrolux TwinClean, it was quiet, compact, the motorized head automatically adjusted to carpet or hard floor (very nifty!) and it seemed well made I wish they where still on sale I'd get another in a heart beat. It was only single cyclone but all you did was swap the filters round and turn the knob to clean them.

The bagless that lasted the longest was the DC04 we had that years and nothing went wrong with it despite daily use, my parents only got rid as they wanted a change.


Post# 245695 , Reply# 24   8/14/2013 at 15:41 (1,924 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Actually I do take back what I said about bagless - in so far as the ONLY brand that has stood the test of time and my favourite all time brand. Anyone want to hazard a guess from the following statements?

They were one of the first who offered bagless design.
They are mostly light in the hand.
They are usually well built, last for ages and do the job as promised.
They are cost effective and a great American brand.




Post# 245709 , Reply# 25   8/14/2013 at 16:48 (1,924 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

My fav is all Dysons

Post# 245714 , Reply# 26   8/14/2013 at 17:24 (1,924 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Dan, I completely forgot about the Twin Clean. They were great cleaners, thanks for bringing that up! :)

Post# 245716 , Reply# 27   8/14/2013 at 17:57 (1,924 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
James Dyson invented Nothing...

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Well, regarding the cyclone, he didn't invent that, he adapted it to work in a vacuum cleaner and then worked around it and all these nifty little things that the Dysons have now, he probably didn't "invent" it would probably be his designers, take the ball technology for e.g, I am sure I read or heard on a video somewhere that his designers came up with the idea of that and then brought the idea to James Dyson and he finallised it.

However, regarding the washable filter, the Hoover Purepower Lifetime had (you will never guess) life time washable filters, pre and post, it also had a permabag type thing...The Hoover Vortex also had lifetime filters.


Post# 245717 , Reply# 28   8/14/2013 at 18:17 (1,924 days old) by dysonman1 (Missouri)        
@thekirbyluver

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James didn't even invent the clear bin. Rexair did that too - in 1948. First as a bin to use when demonstrating the machine, and then as standard equipment with the 1955 model D.

Just because Europe didn't have the Rainbow, doesn't mean it didn't exist. We've had it for more than 75 years.

The Rainbow will outlast a Dyson, that's a given. A Rainbow is dustless to empty. Also a given. It's very light to push and is an extremely high quality machine. In fact, the motor doesn't have carbon brushes, so no emissions. And it's certified as an air purifier, something the Dyson most certainly is not.


Post# 245719 , Reply# 29   8/14/2013 at 18:39 (1,924 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        

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yes but to James dyson a guy who spent 5 hard years designing a vacuum cleaner was hardly going to look into the American history of vacuum cleaners, for Britain this was the first bag less vacuum with a clear bin, and a rainbow makes mud and if it tips over your done for.

Post# 245724 , Reply# 30   8/14/2013 at 19:35 (1,924 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        

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I used to have an old Thermax that was great. Great power nozzle (until the clip that held it on the wand broke), good filtration and no mess when emptying. I'm sure Rainbow vacs and many of the other water filtration vacs are good as well (I used to have an H2O vac which I wired a power nozzle into that cleaned very well but it was a poorly designed vacuum).

In terms of cyclonic bagless vacs that I have used in the past I would say Dyson, older Fantoms (at least I know the Lightning and Thunder were good, not sure about the others but I assume they worked well too) and the Shark Navigator vacs. I'm only referring to the dust separation efficiency, not the cleaning efficiency.


Post# 245727 , Reply# 31   8/14/2013 at 19:58 (1,924 days old) by dysonman1 (Missouri)        

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Wrong again, Kirbylover. Rainbows don't tend to tip over. The separator keeps the water out of the motor. I turned thousands of Rainbows completely upside down during the demonstration.

James may have spent 5 years designing a bagless vacuum, the engineers at Rexair have spent 75 years perfecting their system. Again, just because you don't know something exists, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Had he been able to buy a Rainbow instead of that Hoover Junior (which he claimed was "permanently clogged"), he wouldn't have had to waste 5 years trying to invent something that had already been invented.

As much as I admire James for what he's done and how he's changed the landscape of vacuum cleaners, I wish he would learn to stop trying to reinvent the wheel - and actually make an extremely durable vacuum. A steel brush roller with replaceable brushes would be great. A real height adjustment would be nice too. A hose you don't have to 'fight' when you use would be a dream. A real dusting brush would be nice too. The ever growing desire to make his machine for less and less money, and shortening the overall life expectancy doesn't sit well with me. Will there be 50 year old Dyson vacuums still running? I doubt it. There are millions of 50 year old Rainbows still running and cleaning people's homes.


Post# 245730 , Reply# 32   8/14/2013 at 21:00 (1,923 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
What's Your Favorite Bagless Vacuum?

Tom,
Thanks for posting your pictures of the old Rexair A and Rexair B.
I do agree with your post in that it would SEEM the Rexair would be a short lived machine but they seem to last and last. I noticed on the web site where people give their opinions of the products, many, many people would talk about using a Rainbow that was 20-30 years old and still working perfectly.
I am so blown away with the performance of the new machine and the quality that I have lost a lot of interest in the other machines. I do appreciate the work put into the Dyson designs but I have no other vacuum that never smells, leaks or loses air flow and suction like my Rainbow. You never save or store filth and germs and not a trace of any odor.
It has been a blessing for my allergies.


Post# 245732 , Reply# 33   8/14/2013 at 21:07 (1,923 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
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considering you know james so well im surprised he you haven't mentioned this to him before

Post# 245735 , Reply# 34   8/14/2013 at 21:55 (1,923 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well the answer is.. Black and Decker!


Post# 245742 , Reply# 35   8/14/2013 at 23:23 (1,923 days old) by cap10323 ()        
Old Rexair

I volunteered at a church for about a year and a half.. First doing landscaping (What I do Currently for a living), Then Snow Removal.. Then finally Indoor stuff when they hired a plow service instead of me and an aging tractor with old Belt driven blower...

They had What I now see were Either Rexair A or B's (Maybe Slightly later?) And some Rainbows I think..

All I can say is.. They were built Like tanks.. They Rivaled a Commercial Lawn Boy Mower for their ability to be abused and keep going.. They had spliced cords.. Wrong hoses (I can tell from your picture) And cobbled up power nozzles from other vacuums..

And Yet.. Every time you bashed the switch.. they roared to life again....

I've never seen a vacuum that durable.... Ever..

Ian


Post# 245744 , Reply# 36   8/15/2013 at 00:11 (1,923 days old) by dwl93 ()        
Favorite Bagless

My favorite (out of all the bagless vacuums I've owned) was my Fantom fury with my Eureka whirlwind lite at a close second. My Bissell Powertrak was good, but I felt the filtration on it was poor and the hose clogged very easily on it. My self propelled windtunnel was good to, I just wish the power switch hadn't broke. I also hated the filtration on that to.

Post# 245746 , Reply# 37   8/15/2013 at 00:21 (1,923 days old) by dressur ()        

I would say, that my favorite is a Dyson canister for dry filter. You rainbow guys are cheating!!! just teasing. cause my favorite bagless vacuum is my Grandma's Rainbow I have.

Post# 245747 , Reply# 38   8/15/2013 at 01:25 (1,923 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I am not a fan of bagless vacuums-at least not newer ones-the ones I do like are Water Matic canisters,Rainbows,Filter Queens.For uprights -would have to be Kirbys,Royals that use dump bags.

Post# 245752 , Reply# 39   8/15/2013 at 02:32 (1,923 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
My favourite bagless

First. Filterqueen

Second. Rainbow


Post# 245759 , Reply# 40   8/15/2013 at 03:46 (1,923 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Thanks for all the replies everyone! It's interesting reading all your opinions. :)

Joe


Post# 245766 , Reply# 41   8/15/2013 at 06:00 (1,923 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Il be voting for the GTech Air Ram.

Have just got myself one and fully charged it. Quick swipe over the bathroom carpet and its pulled out alot of Talc powder that a hoover turbopower 1000, hoover ranger, dc14, has missed over the months.

Not bad for a rechargeable cleaner. Im very impressed with its cat hair, dust, grit, fluff removal. 10/10 Im wondering just how great it will keep performing daily so I only have to get the large machines out once a week.


Post# 245767 , Reply# 42   8/15/2013 at 06:27 (1,923 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Id love an Air Ram but I adore my Gtech carpet sweeper too much and if they ever fall in price I may buy an Air Ram eventually. Might get a Bissell though since I bought one for my best mate I was staying with in London and ever so quiet compared to the Gtech SW02.

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Post# 245774 , Reply# 43   8/15/2013 at 07:42 (1,923 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        

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turbomaster1984, I've wanted an Air Ram since they came out but couldn't really justify the price. I too have a G-tech sweeper which I love, however mine has always been very noisy, especially compared to my mother in laws. It does a great job for quick pick ups. Will be good to hear how you get on with the Air Ram after you have used it for a while.

Sebofan, I watched your review of the Bissell Sweeper, seems to perform well for the price and appears to groom the pile better than my G-Tech, however mine is a few years old now, I have noticed the newer G-Tech's seem to have an improved brush roll.


Post# 245782 , Reply# 44   8/15/2013 at 09:40 (1,923 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Thanks for watching!

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I have the 2013 SW02 model Paul, and it makes a fair racket. The brush roll is okay, does the job etc and I like the slide door side exit for the dust pan. The Bissell feels a bit more substantial, not any less for the fact that it has a proper thicker metal tube and a bit more weight to the floor head. That's the compromise - if you want light as a feather and a bit of noise you can put up with, the Gtech is fine.

Post# 245783 , Reply# 45   8/15/2013 at 10:16 (1,923 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I'd probably try a Gtech Air Ram if it wasn't for the price. Do you think it's worth the price Rob?

Joe


Post# 245787 , Reply# 46   8/15/2013 at 10:30 (1,923 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
My faveorite bagless is...

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Dyson DC01, Destijl preferably and the Hoover Vortex. my faveourite modern bagless is the Dyson DC25 and Dyson DC41...For the cylinders, errm, well, ahhh, NO!

Post# 245816 , Reply# 47   8/15/2013 at 11:25 (1,923 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        
reccomend?

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its early days to say about reliability, back to back performance but I can honestly say so far so good.

Have used it to clean the house from top to bottom and its done everything ive asked of it. It has limitations - cant get into crevices, stair cleaning is ok but not great.

Its performed really well on the carpets I have in this house and on a par with the full size vacs mentioned above.

I daresay it could be a different story when it comes to plush, thick carpets but that testing will have to wait til the new house.

If a light easy quick and convienient daily machine is needed on sisal, coir carpets and hard floors then yes I daresay this is for you, It wont replace a decent bagged vac with tools attached though.





Post# 245826 , Reply# 48   8/15/2013 at 12:19 (1,923 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        
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My G-Tech is the SW18 with germ guard. It has always made what I can only describe as a "ratchety" squealing sound when the brush roll bogs down. I just thought this was normal until I heard my MIL's sweeper, I don't know the model but it's white with coloured dots and a green hand grip and the brush roll visor is white plastic ( not see through), hers is very quiet even on thick carpet.

I notice Lakeland have blue bissell sweepers for 24.99, I may get one come payday.


Post# 245830 , Reply# 49   8/15/2013 at 13:40 (1,923 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

My favourite is my Morphy Richards Complete Clean Lift Away. It performs really well and is easy to use.
I made a video of my Dyson DC25 for my YouTube channel and although it wasn't meant to be a Dyson Vs Morphy Richards test, I used the Lift Away on the carpet after the Dyson and it picked up more in one forward and backward pass than the DC25. I have decided to sell the Dyson after seeing the Morphy Richards outclean it. I will be making a full demo video of the Lift Away soon, but in the meantime here's an unboxing and first look.


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Post# 245835 , Reply# 50   8/15/2013 at 14:07 (1,923 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        
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I actually watched your video the other day. I love the Complete clean,bit of a hybrid of a couple of shark models. I'm hoping we get a M/R branded version Rotator Professional Lift Away , they look super cool!!

Also watched your review of the G-Tech Air Ram, informative and funny and your dogs are gorgeous!



Post# 245877 , Reply# 51   8/15/2013 at 17:48 (1,923 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Paul - Mine has a ratchety sound too (and a "whirr") and its the later model with no round hold design at the top where the angled handle is - mine is like this one shown here in the pic.

Post# 245878 , Reply# 52   8/15/2013 at 17:50 (1,923 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

I hate the Air ram, I used it andwhile I was checkingvtge brushbar, then put it upright again, the dirt came out!

Post# 245913 , Reply# 53   8/15/2013 at 22:01 (1,922 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Though I generally prefer bagged vacuums, I am absolutely enamored with the inexpensive and easy to use Swiffer Sweeper Vac cordless stick vac for bare floors.

It's lightweight and really effective when you want to quickly clean and dust your bare floors. In essence it is a Dustbuster combined with an electrostatic cloth mop pad.

My nominee for best bagless vac!



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Post# 245918 , Reply# 54   8/16/2013 at 00:11 (1,922 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
RE Rainbow..

Tom is correct, I used to sell Rainbows in the early 80s, part of the demo was to turn the machine on its side while running to sho the prospect,1, the water would not spill or get in the motor and 2, to show the cyclonic action, we used to say," A rain storm right in your home!"

Post# 246039 , Reply# 55   8/16/2013 at 19:40 (1,922 days old) by tazcatsdad (Buffalo, NY)        
For me it would be ...

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... a tough choice to choose a favorite as I have two Dysons from the UK (a DC11 canister and a DC07 upright), a Filter Queen Majestic Triple Crown, two Electrolux TwinCleans (one from USA and one from the UK), and a Rainbow D4CSE!

 

All are good in their own ways.

 

Bill W.


Post# 246132 , Reply# 56   8/17/2013 at 01:08 (1,921 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
Dont want ANYTHING

Bagless, too much mess, a Filter Queen is as close to bagless as I want to get!

Post# 246150 , Reply# 57   8/17/2013 at 01:45 (1,921 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

After I have used whatever bagless one-I vacuum out its bag,bin,or filters with a paper bagged NSS M1!
I have tipped over my Rainbow vac accidently-no water spilled-but it does make destressing noises!Oh yes after I use the Rainbow-dump its water bin outside-then rinse the bin out and leave it to dry-never have it assembled to the Rainbow "powerdome"


Post# 246539 , Reply# 58   8/19/2013 at 15:23 (1,919 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I absolutly love my dysons, These are Just some of them

Post# 246541 , Reply# 59   8/19/2013 at 15:25 (1,919 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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A better view

Post# 246542 , Reply# 60   8/19/2013 at 15:52 (1,919 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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They look great, You have a very nice collection! :)

Joe


Post# 246543 , Reply# 61   8/19/2013 at 15:58 (1,919 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Thank you , some of my dc07's and my dc41 and dc28 airmuscle are missing from the photo

Post# 246547 , Reply# 62   8/19/2013 at 16:24 (1,919 days old) by whirlpolf ()        

My Dirt Devil Room Mate.
Clearly one of the best "small" cleaners ever.
Its modest cloth filter keeps hoovering until the dust compartment is really chockablock - unlike all those dreadful "pleated filter cartridge" wannabe cyclons...

For vintage cloth filter machines, I'd take the Siemens Protos, for modern larger vacs I would like to have a Hitachi canister, really love them.



Post# 246585 , Reply# 63   8/19/2013 at 19:21 (1,919 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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My goodness me, that's some collection!

Post# 246653 , Reply# 64   8/20/2013 at 02:26 (1,918 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Ryan

Thats only some of it :) Over 100 vacuums on display in my showroom


Post# 246763 , Reply# 65   8/20/2013 at 19:07 (1,918 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Wow! Well done, very kaleidoscopic

Post# 246816 , Reply# 66   8/20/2013 at 23:36 (1,917 days old) by man114 (Buffalo NY)        

Three favorite bagless vacs:

The Fantom Thunder/Domestic (which if cared for lasts fine, my oldest running one is nearly 20 years old). They licensed the Dyson technology but IMHO with this machine did what Dyson has failed to do with his own technology, build a sturdy machine. I have a few Dysons but I still think the Thunder outcleans the DC33 when I use it downstairs.

The Rainbow, the real originator of the bagless vacuum.

Lastly? Here's one that most won't remember a Sears Kenmore bagless canister made by Electrolux. I forget the model off the top of my head but it was clear blue and used some varient of a dual cyclone but they were stacked one on top of the other. Awesome vacuum.


Post# 246996 , Reply# 67   8/21/2013 at 19:46 (1,917 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)        
A few of my current favorites, but if it came down to one..

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It would have to be the DC17. An absolute powerhouse. Dyson set out to create a product suitable for American homes (wall-to-wall carpeting, at the time), and although a touch too aggressive for shag or looser naps, it does an incredible job. Far better than any of their other vacuums at-the-time, and still today, only a few of their models (DC28 and DC41, specifically) come close to matching the carpet cleaning performance.

It also does a shockingly-good job on hard floors, and (in my opinion) still has Dyson's best attachment setup. It featured their first wand setup where the catch released automatically, and has a really long hose (Stairs? No problem!), with a comfortable, more substantial hand grip than most of their models. It also came with 3 separate, well-designed tools.

The DC17 is also the only upright that has a Level-3 Root Cyclone pack, which is still my favorite in a bagless vacuum. It works very, very well, and it takes the filter a very long time to get dusty. They had issues originally with the gasket on the bottom of the cyclone pack moving upward (it would catch on the baffles on the dropout bin door, allowing dirt into the complex rig backwards, clogging the cyclones). They quietly fixed this, and the cyclone pack on mine is the redesigned, much improved version.

I've used the DC17 for extremely heavy cleaning (it's seen a ton of drywall dust), and it's been a trooper! I really wish they would have continued to evolve the DC17 and it's cyclonic-filtration setup, as it does such a wonderful job.

It's noisy, has durability issues, and is quite large, but I've yet to find a bagless upright I like more. Nothing can clean an entire home as quickly, with everything right on the machine, and the resulting carpet lines are gorgeous! I almost make a game out of seeing how much cleaning I can get done with this vacuum. It can thoroughly clean any room, top-to-bottom, with just what's offered right on the vacuum.

Also in the picture are my DC35, and Hoover Air. I've probably used my DC35 more than any other bagless vacuum. It's a dream for the car, and quicky spills!

The Air was one of Hoover's first really great cyclonic bagless vacuums. It has alsmost everything I love about the DC17, in a much smaller and lighter package. The base model Air has been quietly updated as well, so hopefully the issues I have with my early Air model, were addressed in later versions (I know they made the brushroll more aggressive, at the very least).




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