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Post# 244898   8/9/2013 at 18:42 (3,883 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 244899 , Reply# 1   8/9/2013 at 18:45 (3,883 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 244900 , Reply# 2   8/9/2013 at 18:47 (3,883 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 244901 , Reply# 3   8/9/2013 at 18:50 (3,883 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 244903 , Reply# 4   8/9/2013 at 18:55 (3,883 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Tom is taking me through a restoration, step by step. I've seen it done so many times, both here and at home. I'll be studying under a pro. It's like Julia Child or Martha Stewart teaching you how to cook!
And, yes, I brought 'edible' treats with me: home made zucchini bread, homemade spaghetti sauce..all nice and fresh. I hope you'll enjoy my photos and careful details of my trip. john |
Post# 244910 , Reply# 5   8/9/2013 at 19:59 (3,883 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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These pictures bring back a flood of happy memories. I remember that kitchen, Stacy Krammes had a pot of coffee for me when I got there. That trip was not like any other museum, while it's true that up to that point, Hoovers were not my cup of tea, but because one of the Hoover sons went to Choate, there were a number of discarded Hoovers like the ones pictured below, in the store rooms I used to play in. Suddenly I was in the birthplace of them. As for Stacy, she was like a favorite aunt who was letting me see her treasures. Then, when John Lucia and I were there together, she made us feel welcome.
As I 've often said, our first outside meeting was to the Hoover company. Weeks before I drafted an 'Outstanding Achievment Award, and John Lucia presented it to her. Her words were "I don't deserve this, I didn't do anything!' But she did, she not only provided us with the early membership, but put us in touch with her daughter Liz, who was then studying to be a graphic artist. It was Liz who designed our first logo, letterhead, and of course the design for the club sheet cake. If you can find anything on Stacy, please share it with us. Have a great time, and let me know if the Whirlwind is still there. Alex Taber. |
Post# 244913 , Reply# 6   8/9/2013 at 20:12 (3,883 days old) by kirbyvacuum (Long Island New York)   |   | |
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Hi John I no you are the expert could you please tell me how old a HooverJunior #1330 would be. i just bought one from ebay. Very nice vacuum Thank you Doug |
Post# 244933 , Reply# 7   8/9/2013 at 22:05 (3,883 days old) by Vinvac (Dubuque IA)   |   | |
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Post# 244934 , Reply# 8   8/9/2013 at 22:06 (3,883 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 244942 , Reply# 9   8/9/2013 at 22:47 (3,883 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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My GPS led me to exactly the right place. I ALWAYS make a pilgrimage here at least once a year. This year, I was here at Christmas, for museum fun, AND the be at the bag plant again for one last time. They took my advice: the LAST bag is here and, was signed by ALL of the bag plant employees. It was sad and happy at the same time. I saw it here today, (took pics) and I remembered it all so very well.
Thank you for thinking I was ill....well.. lol. Tues pm my uncle (had a 69) was hospitalized...heart trouble, again. He's gonna be ok, and I was assured that it was ok to continue with my trip. My family has been known to have ;problems'. Thankfully, I've left all my troubles, worries, etc back in Pennsylvania. No nasty calls, comments, (well, they'll come, I'm sure) but....it IS a RETREAT for me here. talk soon, John Now, about that "Kirby" thing. hm.................... no kidney for YOU! |
Post# 245019 , Reply# 11   8/10/2013 at 15:46 (3,882 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 245020 , Reply# 12   8/10/2013 at 15:57 (3,882 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 245025 , Reply# 13   8/10/2013 at 16:17 (3,882 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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In many ways she was our first 'den mother' though neither John Lucia or I ever called her that. Because of her interest in my 'hobby' all sorts of doors opened for me. Till then, everybody other than family and a few close friends thought I was crazy. And yes, I was working for Kirby at the time. But even my manager thought that collecting vacuum cleaners was a bit odd!
Stacy worked her magic on John too, forwarding his letter of inquiry on models 150 and 700 to me, and thus opening another door. So, for me, the Hoover Historical Center will always be the birthplace of the V.C.C.C.. Alex Taber. |
Post# 245079 , Reply# 14   8/10/2013 at 20:54 (3,882 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Today, we went to numerous estate sales, garage sales, yard sales, oh my!!
First, a trip to Morrison's Vac Shop proved beneficial. We got some nice attachments, (vault stamped), scent materials, bags, etc. At one estate sale, we saw a Kirby, Regina, and a poor Convertible (the condiment ketchup, model u4061) It saw a very rough life. Another very odd home sported a power drive Dial A Matic, and, I spotted hoover tools 1031 under tarp. I picked up a helpmate, bags, tools, etc today. Tom got a HOOVER Brush vac for The Historical Center. As we were leaving, the man said, "There's another one over there. Do you need a Dirt Devil? Tom nearly fainted as I pointed to my HOOVER shirt. I replied, "Are you kidding me"? Have you SEEN our shirts"? Of course, we were both wearing HOOVER 'garb'. Photos of that to follow. One Salvation Army store had a Eureeeka green "rotomatic"...seemed to be excellent condition for whopping $5.00. WE saw a Kenmore cleaner in a home alongside a commode. "Location, location, location". I almost had to lie down a few times. Back home, I curled up with a 'good book', "Fabulous Dustpan". Don't you love the 'lamp'? |
Post# 245081 , Reply# 15   8/10/2013 at 20:56 (3,882 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 245082 , Reply# 16   8/10/2013 at 20:58 (3,882 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 245085 , Reply# 17   8/10/2013 at 21:29 (3,882 days old) by cap10323 ()   |   | |
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You mentioned a Man Named Tom... That wouldn't by any chance be Tom Anderson would it? I went down to the Museum when I was something like 7 I think... |
Post# 245095 , Reply# 18   8/10/2013 at 22:23 (3,882 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 245125 , Reply# 19   8/11/2013 at 07:09 (3,881 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)   |   | |
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Post# 245227 , Reply# 20   8/11/2013 at 16:23 (3,881 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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That trip we made together was indeed great. When I think that without your cross country drive it would never have happened, nor would the V.C.C.C.!
Do you remember the factory tour? What stands out in my mind are those two ladies on the third floor who were assembling machines. One looked at the other and said. "I don't know who these people are, but they must be very special, Hoover gives a lot of tours, but nobody get's to the third floor!" I remember us tracking down the grave sites of the Hoover family, and also Murry J. Spangler. It really warmed my heart when we spent a few hours with Bill Smily, the man who designed a number of parts for the early models. Wasn't he the man who designed the brushrolls? If memory serves, he had maybe a week to stay alive. The two of you talked Hoover and I drank it all in. But I think it was Stacy Krammes who made the biggest impact on me. First when I went there in 1980, and again when we were there. Then came the gathering of the club in 94. Hoover outdid themselves. By the way do you recall the newspaper article? as far as I know, that was the only bad press the club ever got! Now a suggestion for gottahaveahoove. John, would you please light a candle for Stacy from me, she was one special lady. Alex Taber |
Post# 245284 , Reply# 21   8/11/2013 at 21:47 (3,881 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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The Pikes, who both worked for YEARS and YEARS at HOOVER. I always visit them when I'm here,and I always feel so welcome at their home. Dick talked a lot about loads of things at the company. WE saw his massive collection, which grows every year. I left with some wonderful things: tools, trucks, etc PLUS two 'vault' machines.
When I get home, I'm giving a Windtunnel canister vacuum to Rob Shore, a.k.a. 'Zippy". It's not one of these, but one I have at home. Some people are so kind, it's only right to 'give forward' as well. I have a few things at home to go, but, we'll talk more about that this week. WE have a few more things planned in the works for tomorrow. More photos as well. Miss Jane gave me a wonderful book about The HOOVER Company during the war years. War production, etc all the juicy details as well are in this great book. As always, it's wonderful to be back and to see all the wonderful things and people here in North Canton. Hope you are enjoying my trip. |
Post# 245288 , Reply# 22   8/11/2013 at 22:27 (3,881 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 245289 , Reply# 23   8/11/2013 at 22:30 (3,881 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 245290 , Reply# 24   8/11/2013 at 22:33 (3,881 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 245291 , Reply# 25   8/11/2013 at 22:37 (3,881 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 245299 , Reply# 26   8/12/2013 at 00:27 (3,881 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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Post# 245394 , Reply# 27   8/12/2013 at 14:59 (3,880 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 245395 , Reply# 28   8/12/2013 at 15:01 (3,880 days old) by Gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 245446 , Reply# 30   8/12/2013 at 22:10 (3,880 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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It was a wonderful trip as always. Tom and Heather couldn't have been nicer. Glenn is getting so big now. Before I left, Dick Pike called...he had a HOOVER heater as a gift for me. What a surprise. Of course, I BOUGHT the 2 vault cleaners, which was only right. I'll post more pics soon, if you'd like to see more of the trip. Back to school tomorrow, (the college). I worked twice as hard to make up the time I wasn't there. I DO work, lolol.
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Post# 245500 , Reply# 31   8/13/2013 at 10:51 (3,879 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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I just might have a 65 that you'd be interested in.
"Zippy", the canister room is right here on William Street. Photos will be posted tonight. I'm not on Facebook. However, I DID see some most unpleasant attacks toward me on there.Thankfully, it never leaked over here into Vacuumland, BUT, tapes are copied, posts are printed. Not sure if the lawyers would call it harassment or slander. Not to worry about that in here, though. NOTHING could ruin a trip to North Canton. And nothing DID. I noticed they removed the ceiling in the HOOVER International Building and replaced it with a high tech new look. It's always great to walk through the place. |
Post# 245502 , Reply# 32   8/13/2013 at 11:01 (3,879 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)   |   | |
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Post# 245506 , Reply# 33   8/13/2013 at 12:10 (3,879 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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You might know that the 'factory' part at the end is Stark University classrooms.
Parts of the big white "international Building' have been divided into offices.A lot of it, though, still is empty. They are trying to fill it. You KNOW how massive it was... all just for ONE glorious company. They just section off parts to rent. I know that beautiful boardroom is being used, as are is a lot of office space down various hallways. The auditorium is still perfectly intact, and is used sometimes for presentations. I'm assuming that will stay as a 'common area' for general use. It's sad to see it like this, but also nice to see lights on in the front windows. If you didn't know any better, it kinda looks like it's still running. i know that the big beautiful floodlights are not on. It was wonderful to see the whole place lit up at night. It was quite a spectacle. Dick Pike told me that the energy crunch stopped a lot of that. It would cost huge amounts to run those lights. But, it WAS gorgeous to see . This post was last edited 08/13/2013 at 12:44 |
Post# 245511 , Reply# 34   8/13/2013 at 12:44 (3,879 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Candle has been lit for Stacey. You're more than welcome.
Among my boxes of treasures is a box of old Convertible hoods that Tom had no need of or use for. But, I can think of a few things do do with them. WE were at OfficeMax making copies of 'experimental designs' from long, long ago. While we were checking out, a woman called, "Tom??? I have my grandmother's HOOVER upright in the car for YOU". Tom worked with this woman and had become friends. So, see how KARMA works? You're nice to people and they, in turn are nice to you. There's nothing like 'bad KARMA'. If you're not careful, it can come back and bite you in the arse. |
Post# 245522 , Reply# 35   8/13/2013 at 13:52 (3,879 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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John, Thanks for posting all the pictures. I ALWAYS see something new at Tom's house. What a wonderful collection. |
Post# 245527 , Reply# 36   8/13/2013 at 14:11 (3,879 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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There's always something new and great to see there. He recently made a HOOVER lamp out of an old 1070. He made lamps in the past, too. There are signs, ads, vacuums added to 'complete' a lineup of a certain vintage, etc. He freely shares his knowledge insight, and passion for all things HOOVER with so many. I'm very honored to call those people my friends. I'm closer to Tom that I was to my own late brother. I certainly don't go there to 'get stuff'. If I never carried another thing out of that house or town, that would be fine. It is all trust, respect, honesty. Isn't that the way it should be?
I have complete, and I mean complete photo coverage of every inch of that place. Sometimes I compare older visits with current ones to compare. Sometimes, during my visits, I see that I've worn the same clothes before..but, who cares? I have 9 different HOOVER shirts, so, I'm well-prepared for a visit there. Some were made for me, others were real HOOVER shirts. Of course, I dress for myself, not for others. Good thing, huh? I'm glad you like the photos. I'll load more of them tonight. John |
Post# 245532 , Reply# 37   8/13/2013 at 14:39 (3,879 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Wow, just wow! |
Post# 245565 , Reply# 38   8/13/2013 at 18:56 (3,879 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Thank's for the candle, I think of Stacy every time I haul out a vacuum cleaner, be that Hoover, Electrolux, Kirby or others. And it might interest you to know what she told me about her favorite brand. It was not Hoover! She said she remembered that when she was as a child, her mother had an upright Air-Way. When she married Don Krammes, he looked at the Air-Way and said "that thing has to go, I work for Hoover!" Don Krammes was the man who designed the Hoover floor washer.
Glad you had fun in the old stomping ground. By the way, was the Whirlwind there? I mean the one that is an exact copy of this one. Alex Taber. |
Post# 245596 , Reply# 39   8/14/2013 at 00:02 (3,879 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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Zippy, myself, thanks you John! I just read your generosity of passing a Windtunnel canister off to me. I am curious what the model number is, under assumption that its a bagged unit and of the 1st generation of Windtunnel canisters, but I guess that's a guess. Anyway thank you again. I know that the S3630 is the gorgeous green bagged model, S3639 is the translucent Sapphire Blue Windtunnel Plus, S3646 is the TurboPower 7000, S3649 is the TurboPower 7500, S3655 is the black colored Windtunnel Ultra with variable speed electronic motor control, S3661 is the translucent green Windtunnel Ultra. Model S3641 is a sparkling gray colored Hoover Preferred Windtunnel bagged canister that was a Lowe's Hardware exclusive.
S3670 is the Anniversary Windtunnel or known to me as the 2nd generation of the Windtunnel canister. S3755 is the bagless Windtunnel, S3765-040 is the bagless Windtunnel Electronic canister. The SH series model numbers are the TTI based model numbers, such as the SH540050 and SH40055. Those two are the newer style bagless cyclonic Windtunnel canisters with redesigned non-headlight equipped Windtunnel head. It would be neat to pair the newer style Windtunnel power head with the original style bagged suction unit because the original style Windtunnel canister had the same attachment set as the Dimension 1000 series canisters which in my mind is an AWESOME, EFFECTIVE and EFFICIENT set of attachments. You should also know though that I do love the Hoover Celebrity Elite II S3061,as in the one that I got to use at the last MiniMeet of Tazcatsdad, or it's similar red and chrome Guardsman model. Should you ever stumble across one of those with the raised round cordwinder, with tool storage on the very back, the gigantic rubber coated rear wheels, headlight equipped PN, I find those very exciting. I do hope that my Celebrity IV that you're babysitting for me is doing well. Someday soon it would be great to see you and I know that running that Celebrity in this new town house would be neat. I sure hope that the rotten scoundrel posting rotten remarks about you on Facebook burries themselves in a cave, therby discontinuing those actions and putting whatever ill-will they have of you to rest!! Best wishes, and one of these trips, I'll have to tag along with you to Hoover Kingdom! |
Post# 245598 , Reply# 40   8/14/2013 at 00:30 (3,879 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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This vacuum for you is bagged, (of course), it's dark, black/purple? I'll have to check more closely. When I got it, I knew you'd get it. It will mean so much more to you as you are the canister guy. I also have 'enough' of those. I just got 2 vault canisters... long story there.
You know you're always welcome here. I hope to see you before the Fall mega-meet, Monster Mash Bash II. It will be by 'invitation only', so as to not have any drama like before. As far as the Facebook thing: I'll tell you about it more in private. Here is not the place for it, really. Just imagine the one person who hates me the most.. criticizes everything I do, wear, eat, go, have.. etc. I've recently been referred to as "Jackie O"... I died laughing. I LOVED her, but no pillbox hat for me. Silly, isn't it? Best to you, Zippy, John |
Post# 245743 , Reply# 41   8/15/2013 at 00:09 (3,878 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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Looking forward to another MiniMeet. I have no new machines myself but you never know. The company of course is always a blast!!
A black Windtunnel canister I can understand. Purple by Hoover unless its a burgundy is a confusing one and you have me stumped. I like a challenge and surprise though, so we'll keep it that until we meet up again. Thanks again and glad all is doing well. Rob |
Post# 246030 , Reply# 42   8/16/2013 at 18:27 (3,876 days old) by tazcatsdad (Buffalo, NY)   |   | |
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Excellent pictures! I so enjoy seeing the photographic output of your journeys to North Canton ... makes me wish I had an extra week of vacation so I could meet you there! Hopefully one of these days I'll get to visit the Hoover museum ... it's on my "bucket list", so to speak. (Maybe during the Cleveland convention next year ... who knows?)
Bill W.
P.S. ... Rob (Durango159) -- would you please contact me via the messaging system if you should chance to read this post? I have some information to share with you. Thank you! |
Post# 246049 , Reply# 43   8/16/2013 at 20:22 (3,876 days old) by SUPER-SWEEPER (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 246153 , Reply# 61   8/17/2013 at 01:47 (3,876 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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