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Post# 244090   8/6/2013 at 14:05 (3,886 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Jamie, I remember a thread that was up a week or two back and you metioned that your "1994 HOOVER Turbopower 1000 U2812" can stretch up a full flight of stairs, which is typically 13 steps and the Chris (Turbo500) said that it wouldn't and that was the whole reason they introduced the Turbopower 3 which is correct.

You said that you would post a picture of your 1000 doing just that, I have been waiting patiently for you to do so, so I thought I would start a thread in hope of you doing so...

 

Here is my 1993 Hoover Turbopower 1000 which had the hose that every other Turbopower 2, which is basically what the 1000 is, had. As you can see I am over stretching the hose as the cleaner is leaning towards the stairs at an angle and it will only get up to the 9th step.


Post# 244092 , Reply# 1   8/6/2013 at 14:09 (3,886 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Turbo 3 was introduced cause it had full Stairclening

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As you can see, I have 12 steps and the 13th step accounts for the landing and it easily reaches to 13 stairs, as Hoover did address, and I am not over stretching it because as you can see, the machine is still stood upright at the bottom of the stairs.

I had to get my mum to hold the hose there while I took the picture, because when I tried to do it myself, I just could not get it all in frame! Lol.




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Post# 244093 , Reply# 2   8/6/2013 at 14:11 (3,886 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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This is how far the Turbopower 3 hose will stretch up the stairs, you can get 14 stairs if you really over strecth the hose like this, and then the cleaner will lean towards the stairs at the bottom at an angle, because of how hard I had to stretch it.


Post# 244096 , Reply# 3   8/6/2013 at 14:13 (3,886 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Post# 244098 , Reply# 4   8/6/2013 at 14:14 (3,886 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
As you can see, it is at an angle now.

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Post# 244100 , Reply# 5   8/6/2013 at 14:18 (3,886 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Just another close up so you can see what it looks like when you stretch it up to the reccomended 13 stairs it is supposed to each to, again it easily stretches up these.


Post# 244101 , Reply# 6   8/6/2013 at 14:21 (3,886 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
So I think it is safe to say.

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The 1000 does not stretch to the top of 13 staris and the Turbopower 3 does, which is why it came out!

As you can see, this is a follow up from the previous picture, stretched up to 13 stairs in is still comfortabley standing upright there at the bottom of the stairs at 90 degrees.


Post# 244102 , Reply# 7   8/6/2013 at 14:23 (3,886 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Thank you for reminding me Alex - I completely forgot about that.

As you rightly showed, the standard hose will not reach up 13 stairs, however it does reach up my 9 stairs (I have three large "platform" steps before the flight of stairs starts).


Post# 244103 , Reply# 8   8/6/2013 at 14:26 (3,886 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Don't forget you have more reach if you have the scabbard crevice tool attached, provided your TP model has that in addition.

However, I recall using the mini turbo brush tool when they were on sale at Argos and they didn't move very well when the hose was fully extended.


Post# 244106 , Reply# 9   8/6/2013 at 14:33 (3,886 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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"Don't forget you have more reach if you have the scabbard crevice tool attached, provided your TP model has that in addition." Good point, I never thought of that.

Post# 244109 , Reply# 10   8/6/2013 at 14:35 (3,886 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Yes but then, if you push the T shape tool on, it really has to be jammed on, otherwise it is liable to just fall off. Far better reach if only to use the hose with a long crevice for light dusting.

Post# 244111 , Reply# 11   8/6/2013 at 14:45 (3,886 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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You might get a longer reach but when you put the upholstory tool on to clean the step, you have to have the tool flat against the step, obviously, so you probably won't reach much further than 9 steps even with the wand, long crevice tool and upholstory tool, because of the tight angle, you will probably only get 10 stairs max.


Post# 244160 , Reply# 12   8/6/2013 at 19:59 (3,886 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Also, lets not forget though that just because you can get up your stair case, not all stair cases and steps are the same. It's all very well claiming what a hose on the back of an upright can do - so much easier just with a cylinder ON a step or in your hand and either clean "as you go" or stretch out a far better designed hose that won't pull back with the force of suction.

Post# 244165 , Reply# 13   8/6/2013 at 20:21 (3,886 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
But Ryan...

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You will either get 13 STANDARD steps cleaned with the Turbopower 3 or maybe one or two more if your stairs has slightly narrower steps than the average, but on a "normal" set of stairs you should get 13 every time.


Post# 244181 , Reply# 14   8/6/2013 at 22:43 (3,886 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        
Alex, Jamie & Ryan....

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Reading this thread, this makes me wonder....have there ever been any upright vacuums in the UK or anywhere in Europe that offer additional extension hoses? We have had a few here in North America, & have been rather convenient to use on cleaning tasks such as cleaning stairs & using to clean cars.

Rob


Post# 244195 , Reply# 15   8/7/2013 at 01:46 (3,886 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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You can buy them from some places aftermarket, but to my knowledge no manufacturer has made one.

Post# 244199 , Reply# 16   8/7/2013 at 03:03 (3,886 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Many manufactures have made them for their own cleaners. Hoover did so for it's Turbomaster, Electrloux did for it's Widetrack, and Dyson & Sebo still do so. Although some hoses will fit other cleaners, they've only been sold to fit the brand they were made by.

However, have seen some universal hoses in those home-cleaning catalouges which one sometimes gets sent by a local distributor.


Post# 244201 , Reply# 17   8/7/2013 at 03:30 (3,886 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Panasonic made extension hoses for their vacuums

Post# 244207 , Reply# 18   8/7/2013 at 06:46 (3,886 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Electrolux also make extensions hoses.

Post# 244213 , Reply# 19   8/7/2013 at 07:53 (3,886 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        

Kirby has a 12 ft stretch hose you can purchase for the G-series machines. You can also get a 50ft cord.

Riccar/Simplicity has a stretch hose for their uprights.


Post# 244214 , Reply# 20   8/7/2013 at 08:07 (3,886 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Hoover did for their Total System uprights as the hose would only reach up the stairs as far as that 1000 did, well, it is the same hose, but the extension was the same length as the original.
SEBO makes a HUGE extension hose for their uprights.
Kirby offer a stair cleaning stretch hose, which seems pretty pointless when you can yet it up as a “canister“ and just carry it with you.
Dyson offered a streth hose for their DC24, which I believe, even with it added to the original hose still doesn't get up the staits!
An extension hose is not really needed nowadays because if you spend more than £100 on a upright a full stair cleaning stretch hose comes as standard...Usually!


Post# 244216 , Reply# 21   8/7/2013 at 08:29 (3,886 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Oh dear JM, yet again wrong.

Even then if the vacuum in question is powerful enough, an added extension is dead handy for the car or other mobile areas that won't pull the machine over.

Alex - can you give me an exact size for what you qualify as "standard steps." ? Yet again Hoover have papped this off for years as a selling point - I know with my own Slalom that the hose can reach up to 9 steps if I'm lucky - and it claims to have a full stretch hose. Brands that continually sell on the idea of stair cleaning hoses are great - until it comes to actual reality.


Post# 244221 , Reply# 22   8/7/2013 at 08:51 (3,886 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Ryan...

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I can't give you an exact size but if a “standard“ flight of 13 stairs has a step that is 9 inches in diameter and a riser that is 8 inches high, if that is the “standard“ size then it should stetch up every staircase that has the same or very similar measurements.
I got the measurements from my stairs. You must not forget that Hoover “claimed“ that the Staircleaning hose would stretch up a STANDARD flight of 13 stairs.


Post# 244224 , Reply# 23   8/7/2013 at 09:20 (3,886 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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You might just be able to see it, but it says... "The new unique stair cleaning hose is designed to stretch to the top of an average stair case (around 13 stairs) and also includes a specially designed stair grooming tool."


Post# 244227 , Reply# 24   8/7/2013 at 10:06 (3,886 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I already have that brochure.

One thing you must be aware of by now is that marketing speak and reality are two very different aspects of vacuum cleaner ownership. A perfect example leading from that very brochure would be the Permabag - if you've had one, they're dusty and they're not as perfect as Hoover would have you believe.


Post# 244233 , Reply# 25   8/7/2013 at 11:00 (3,886 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Tacony makes a 15 foot extension hose called the 'stair cleaning kit' that also includes a turbo brush, connected to the on-board hose of the vacuum, will reach 20 feet. More than enough reach for U.S. stair cases. It's available for both our uprights as well as canister vacuum sweepers.

Post# 244238 , Reply# 26   8/7/2013 at 11:46 (3,886 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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"Oh dear JM, yet again wrong.

Even then if the vacuum in question is powerful enough, an added extension is dead handy for the car or other mobile areas that won't pull the machine over." How am I wrong, and where did I say that an extension was not handy? I am confused.


Post# 244253 , Reply# 27   8/7/2013 at 12:31 (3,886 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I will agree that with the original Permabag System on the Turbopower 1 that Hoover were off their rocker!! It was truely GOD AWFUL!! The Permabag system 2 for Turbopower 2/3 and 1000 was not bad at all, it didn't really loose suction at all compared to the origianl and from my experience from using both of my Permabag System 2's...They don't leak! It is still a little messy to emty, not as messy as the original but it is no messier than one of those Vax swift machines, it would probably be cleaner to emty a Permabag System 2.


Post# 244275 , Reply# 28   8/7/2013 at 14:31 (3,885 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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JM - Reply 15 regarding no manufacturer selling hoses.

Alex - From memory I only got one quarter of "4 quarters" at the bottom of the after market Permabag box I bought many years ago to try out in my TP2/U2464. From then on it lost suction and couldn't effectively seal the dust in, leaking badly. From memory it wasn't really that effective and using a dust bag was far better.

The Permabag in the Turbomaster was a better design however - it wasn't the same machine being U.S based and a far better design all round.


Post# 244278 , Reply# 29   8/7/2013 at 14:42 (3,885 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
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though the hose stretches to the top of the stairs you cant clean very comfortably with it when its stretched to its limits . My sister would use hers the other way round IE vac at the top of the stairs with the hose through the bars so even if it tips over it cant follow you down the stairs

Post# 244295 , Reply# 30   8/7/2013 at 16:04 (3,885 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Thats a good idea about the rails though I fear I would probably scrape the paint off mine pulling the hose along.


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