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Thread Number: 21673
Another version of the Hoover Sebo Copy |
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| Post# 242446 , Reply# 1 7/27/2013 at 16:46 (3,918 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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Some more photos Here is a few more angles. 
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| Post# 242447 , Reply# 2 7/27/2013 at 17:01 (3,918 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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| Post# 242449 , Reply# 4 7/27/2013 at 17:21 (3,918 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 242450 , Reply# 5 7/27/2013 at 17:24 (3,918 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA) | ||
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| Post# 242456 , Reply# 7 7/27/2013 at 18:10 (3,918 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Its another version of the Hoover Insight.
See previous post about this Sebo clone if you haven't already: www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-... Sebo of Germany are aware of it as far as I know as I contacted them on this vacuum cleaner and they weren't aware of it (in the previous link). I think a small company like SEBO aren't that worried about it - they have better reliability worldwide with their commercial market which is their biggest market compared to the domestic range derived from a lot of their products. | ||
| Post# 242470 , Reply# 9 7/27/2013 at 19:44 (3,918 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 242499 , Reply# 11 7/27/2013 at 21:20 (3,918 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 242555 , Reply# 13 7/28/2013 at 07:34 (3,918 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I'm no fool when a brand clearly have design patents and a different way of design and engineering - but when a small company like that exists, it makes more sense to allow other brands to rebadge models paying license fees than be swallowed up by other companies.
I may worship SEBO but unlike Miele and Bosch they are not a large corporation - thus it makes sense to offer brands under different names rather than spend massively on promoting the single brand name worldwide. If you know anything of SEBO they are still a family owned business and its only been of recent since the 1990s that they have dabbled with the cylinder vacuum market, straying a little into the domestic market as opposed to their commercial uprights. IF they wanted total market domination, you'd see the SEBO brand name worldwide and those brands such as Diversey, Oreck and whoever else sells the commercial based uprights under a different name wouldn't get the machines anymore. SEBO operates a bit like the Austin motor company's original Austin 7 - their Austin 7 was made all over the world and from other manufacturers such as BMW, American Austin and then copied by Nissan in Japan, though did not have license to. It may be a car, but the similarity between both the original SEBO design and the Austin 7 have a lot in common in terms of worldwide availability. The Insight is a good SEBO copy though. Whether it appeals to general buyers over the existing SEBO design remains to be seen. | ||
| Post# 242575 , Reply# 14 7/28/2013 at 10:01 (3,918 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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Small Company? I do not know how small this company is , I bet they sell more vacuums than Miele. The Windsor vacuums are in almost every hotel in the United States. | ||
| Post# 242578 , Reply# 15 7/28/2013 at 10:38 (3,918 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 242590 , Reply# 17 7/28/2013 at 11:39 (3,918 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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You said you didn't know how small SEBO the company is and you "bet" they sell more vacuums than Miele.
You did not say "might," but used the word "bet" to emphasise your opinion. I've responded saying that Miele sell far more. Proof - Taken from the Canadian Miele site and SEBO's Germany site. 30 Million from Miele worldwide, 4 million from SEBO worldwide. 
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| Post# 242592 , Reply# 18 7/28/2013 at 11:45 (3,918 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 242597 , Reply# 20 7/28/2013 at 12:01 (3,918 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Sorry if you think I take things "personal" but as a vacuum cleaner collector, I was very much like JMurray and a lot of the younger members on here who adored Hoover and nothing else. I had 100 Hoover vacuums at one point and thought they were brilliant. The day changed when I discovered the SEBO X1 and kissed goodbye to my Turbopower 2 collection...
For your information - SEBO U.S marketed that filter as their own design. Many years ago when I first became a member of another vacuum cleaner affiliated forum, I was surprised to see a paper pleated cone filter for the Windsor series. Upon contacting Sebo in Germany, they only make those filters for certain markets and the UK isn't one of them - after testing the filter, and after pressure from the U.S, SEBO developed the paper pleated filter cone for SEBO U.S markets - but Europe and UK have the felt filter, additional upgrade to Charcoal for pet owners. After testing the paper pleated cone, SEBO in Germany weren't happy to sell it all the markets as it isn't as effective as the felt micro filter. | ||
| Post# 242811 , Reply# 23 7/29/2013 at 20:28 (3,916 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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Rubber seal for bag Notice the rubber seal for the bag inlet. This seems to be a better seal than my Windsor Sensor had or maybe mine was worn. 
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| Post# 242812 , Reply# 24 7/29/2013 at 20:32 (3,916 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 242813 , Reply# 25 7/29/2013 at 20:33 (3,916 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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The seal around the bag cover. Note the seal around the bag cover, maybe Sebo has this and mine was missing. I did notice the Insight when turned on closes tight and seals like my Miele S7. 
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| Post# 242816 , Reply# 26 7/29/2013 at 20:42 (3,916 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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Bottom line Bottom line. If you love Hoover and were curious about Sebo, this is your chance to have the best of both worlds. Probabaly the best performing Hoover ever made. 
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| Post# 242821 , Reply# 27 7/29/2013 at 21:11 (3,916 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke () | ||
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No matter what anyone thinks, it's always exciting to get a new machine, so congratulations! Does this have the automatic height adjust or the manual one?
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| Post# 242823 , Reply# 28 7/29/2013 at 21:25 (3,916 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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Height adjustment No this has the manual adjustment like the Sebo G1. Much more of a G1 copy than an X4. 
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| Post# 242874 , Reply# 29 7/30/2013 at 05:40 (3,916 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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For one thing spares - spares were hard to get for the TP2 and they were hardly light and as easy to push over carpet despite the height adjustment selector - another annoying part that used to break off with me. Also, unless you really want me to go to great depths of why I think SEBO's X1 is better, have a look at my review online of one of my Hoover Turbopower 2's - it provides enough pros and cons. Vegas - good luck with your future buy - pity there's a damming review about it on Amazon.com from a commercial buyer where when a lot of them were purchased, they didn't exactly work properly. I don't mind if a brand copies a generic design - but when it gets negative feedback from BUYERS as opposed to collectors, I'm at two minds on whether it is really that good = especially when it is a model apparently designed for the commercial market. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 242889 , Reply# 31 7/30/2013 at 07:07 (3,916 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Ah but I'm just a consumer of vacuums - I have many - I don't see the SEBO as being the ultimate of uprights. But I'm sure you'd feel the same if you saw one of your favourite vacuums being copied and sold alongside.
And for your additional info - we don't get Kenmore in the UK - though Panasonic based, the uprights we do get are slightly different and not as intuitive. | ||
| Post# 242917 , Reply# 33 7/30/2013 at 10:16 (3,916 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Yes but Elvis was a person not a commercial vacuum cleaner
So, in actual fact you are shooting yourself in the foot.
You can't have it both ways. In your original post you say that "its a future rare investment." Now you say that IF they don't hold up, they'' run back to SEBO. Where is the proof in that? Can you hear yourself? If buyers get turned off by the copied SEBO design, they may be turned off by SEBO altogether rather than buying the original. In the same way if the Insight proves to be a good, then so be it - but they'll still be the SEBO models around whether Hoover's marketing dept like it not. Fine if the SEBO model wasn't available anymore - but that isn't the case. | ||
| Post# 242933 , Reply# 35 7/30/2013 at 11:09 (3,916 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Are you a moderator on here?
Who are you to tell me what I can do and what I can't do? Did you think about your own advice when you formed your opinion of the Miele S7? Im sure there are members who love their Miele S7 upright and don't need to be told how poorly built it is. Or for that matter those who disagree. | ||
| Post# 242939 , Reply# 36 7/30/2013 at 11:40 (3,916 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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Sebo I will leave it at this, I would not someone like you being my advocate if I was Sebo. | ||
| Post# 242942 , Reply# 37 7/30/2013 at 11:45 (3,916 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 242943 , Reply# 38 7/30/2013 at 11:55 (3,916 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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Not so serious No, I appreciate vacuums, all manufacture, types and sizes. I give my opinion, it is only an opinion, for the next person has their own which I respect and some times learn from. | ||
| Post# 242957 , Reply# 39 7/30/2013 at 13:17 (3,916 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke () | ||
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I hate to interrupt a fight with actual discussion, but does this machine come with a dusting brush or is one available for it? | ||
| Post# 243042 , Reply# 40 7/30/2013 at 17:19 (3,915 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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Tools I do not know if one is available, it does come with the standard crevice tool and upholstery tool mounted to the back like on the Sebo. | ||
| Post# 243043 , Reply# 41 7/30/2013 at 17:28 (3,915 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 243857 , Reply# 42 8/5/2013 at 16:27 (3,909 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 243880 , Reply# 43 8/5/2013 at 17:05 (3,909 days old) by compamac () | ||
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Where can.... I buy this machine? | ||
| Post# 243881 , Reply# 44 8/5/2013 at 17:06 (3,909 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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No, they nicked the same design from the older commercial uprights... 360/460 white hose.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK 
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| Post# 244086 , Reply# 46 8/6/2013 at 13:19 (3,909 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Vegassucks
Where did you "hear" that Hoover had "30 plus Sebos torn apart" while developing the Insight?
I work with the R and D department at Tacony and those guys wouldn't need "30 or more" machines to develop a copy of one. Maybe because they are American engineers and graduates of Missouri College of Science and Technology. Your age isn't in your profile, not sure if you're one of the children we have here, or just a private adult collector. You seem to have many opinions about vacuums you don't own and know nothing about. On the other hand, I actually work at a vacuum cleaner manufacturer and work with the Engineering department and have helped them develop the new Maytag models from the ground up. All vacuum manufacturers share their 'about to be launched' products with each other. Bet you didn't know that. I got a brand new Kirby G2000 with no serial number, sent to us by Kirby many years ago. We have a warehouse full of brand new vacuums that we put on the Treadmill and test against our current products. That's how I got to see the Digital Motor Hoover Insight some time ago. I know that it's rare for a collector to actually work with not-yet-launched products, and that's why I'm happy to go to work everyday. I can actually say I'm contributing to the future of vacuum cleaner technology. | ||
| Post# 244141 , Reply# 47 8/6/2013 at 16:33 (3,908 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 244154 , Reply# 48 8/6/2013 at 19:44 (3,908 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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As a vacuum cleaner collector, I really don't mind who copies who - usually I turn a blind eye or look out that model in particular IF the copied original is no longer made. If someone was to copy the Dyson DC01 with the same look and the same design and put it out tomorrow, I'd probably consider buying it - the DC01 was one of my favourite Dyson models.
BUT, to offer a similar copied model on a design that is STILL selling on the market, AND worse, by THEE COMPANY that were once a major player and one of my favourite classic brands, Hoover have a real cheek. They're lucky the patents on the SEBO have passed their sell by date - but it doesn't necessarily mean its right to do so. | ||
| Post# 244159 , Reply# 49 8/6/2013 at 19:58 (3,908 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 244161 , Reply# 50 8/6/2013 at 20:00 (3,908 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 244174 , Reply# 52 8/6/2013 at 21:39 (3,908 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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One of my favorite vacuums Now this is one good looking vacuum 
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| Post# 244317 , Reply# 53 8/7/2013 at 16:50 (3,907 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Why would you tear down the Brilliance, yet say the Synchrony is "best". They're the same vacuum. Our handles have been improved in durability, and all handle upgrades are FREE. Even if the machine is out of warranty. I met James Dyson many years ago, and Dyson is NOT Tacony's competitor. I own one of every model Dyson ever made - and feel James changed the landscape of vacuums. Tacony didn't hire a "yes' man, they hired someone who would help the engineering department create better vacuums. The new Maytag line represents the very best bagged vacuums on the market today. All three models have tested well over 1200 hours on the treadmill test and have had ZERO problems.
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| Post# 244353 , Reply# 55 8/7/2013 at 19:48 (3,907 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 244417 , Reply# 56 8/8/2013 at 08:40 (3,907 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Personally, I love Dyson vacuums. Not every model, but the concept. I owned the VERY FIRST Dyson vacuum in the United States. I have the largest private collection of Dysons. James gives me one of every new model he makes, and has done so for years.
That being said, I find faults in his cleaners, as I can do with any vacuum. But I celebrate the great things. Like it or not, he's changed vacuum history, which is something I try to do with every engineering meeting they hold at the Museum. I also get to test every new model, finding flaws before the models get the injection molding made. Our current Maytag models are examples of two years of testing, and our newest "Jiffy maid" bagless upright went through over 13 redesigns before we 'got it right'. By the way, I rarely sell a Tandem Air upright. I prefer the 7850 model, and think it's the most powerful, best clean air designed upright made today. Too bad it's going to be obsolete when the new Maytag models launch at the end of September, but the new Maytag clean air upright uses the double fan, double ball bearing motor and is definitely an improvement over the 7850 so I'm super stoked to see it launch. | ||
| Post# 244426 , Reply# 57 8/8/2013 at 09:51 (3,907 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 244428 , Reply# 58 8/8/2013 at 09:54 (3,907 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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Maytag I am not a fan of the name Maytag on a vacuum but the specs you talk about sound interesting. I know many Americans love the name Maytag, I would like to see the geniuses at Fisher & Paykel design a vacuum. | ||
| Post# 244448 , Reply# 59 8/8/2013 at 13:25 (3,907 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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James gives me one of every new model he makes, and has done | ||
| Post# 244476 , Reply# 60 8/8/2013 at 14:04 (3,907 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 244489 , Reply# 61 8/8/2013 at 14:12 (3,907 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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Post# 244498 , Reply# 62 8/8/2013 at 14:43 (3,906 days old) by bagintheback  (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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| Post# 244521 , Reply# 63 8/8/2013 at 16:27 (3,906 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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no, no arguments.. | ||
| Post# 244532 , Reply# 64 8/8/2013 at 16:46 (3,906 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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James Dyson If James Dyson was into anything but making a buck he would design a bagged machine. Bagless vaccums are unhealthy, cheaply made and leak dirty air. | ||
| Post# 244533 , Reply# 65 8/8/2013 at 16:49 (3,906 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Dyson was NEVER interested in bagged vacuums but rather developed the cyclonic system to stop buying dust bags. You keep saying the same old thing, Vegas - but other members on here like Dyson in the same way that we all have a fair share of brands - please respect that instead of getting on your high horse.
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| Post# 244584 , Reply# 67 8/8/2013 at 23:03 (3,906 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well put your head in the Dyson fan and give us peace.
If the SEBO is good enough for hospitals for deep cleaning, then its good enough for me. In the meantime if you can't think of anything else to say that is factual and not out of your behind, then cease to be. And unless you actually sleep on PVC covered sheets on your bed, you breathe in dust ALL THE TIME. Ignorance is bliss until you choke on it. | ||
| Post# 244621 , Reply# 69 8/9/2013 at 06:38 (3,906 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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If you look at my profile, you'll see I had quite a collection. I still have other brands and for your information, UK hospitals have a mix of deep shag pile to lino and hardwood. Best if you actually witness the hospitals in the UK rather than try the generic route. But then I'd expect that from you - since you appear to lack factual evidence and only go on hearsay of others.
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| Post# 244654 , Reply# 70 8/9/2013 at 07:46 (3,906 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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I have never seen shag carpet or even carpet in hospitals in the UK.
The only carpet they might have would be in the offices, which I highly doubt as that would still be treading germs everywhere....Ryan, what is this thing you have with shag carpet in commercial buildings?! I can honestly say that the only carpet I ever see in commercial places is that glued down, flat arse shit. This post was last edited 08/09/2013 at 08:04 | ||
| Post# 244655 , Reply# 71 8/9/2013 at 07:48 (3,906 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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Actually, the Sebo X4 has a good brushroll. Stiff brushes like scrubbing brush bristles that lift the carpet up to release more dirt. They may not be a Hoover Activator, but they're better than most of them on the market. | ||
| Post# 244657 , Reply# 72 8/9/2013 at 08:02 (3,906 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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The Sebo does indeed have a good brushroll.
The only thing I don't like about modern deep cleaning uprights is that the brushes are SO stiff that they can over time ware your carpet out instead of making it last longer.
Hi-lowswitch - like you suggested the Activator, for e.g - the Activator has long, quite firm brushes, but not overly stiff like todays machines that can damage carpets, the Activator didn't need super stiff brushes as it relies on beater pads, something the new brushrolls on the upright deep cleaners lack! | ||
| Post# 244676 , Reply# 74 8/9/2013 at 10:15 (3,906 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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Sebo Brush roll The Sebo brush roll last forever and is simple to change. Perfect for janitorial work. Compare it to a Miele, Panasonic or Riccar and it loses badly. | ||
| Post# 244678 , Reply# 75 8/9/2013 at 10:16 (3,906 days old) by compamac () | ||
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Sebo-Fan is right... Every hospital I went to even in the US which is where I live HAS carpet. AND they use Windsors which obviously is just like a Sebo. | ||
| Post# 244680 , Reply# 76 8/9/2013 at 10:23 (3,906 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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The difference is I actually worked in a hospital and am not just a brain dead Sebo fool. There is sometimes carpet in office and waiting areas. Where I worked used Lindhaus, and yes Sebo is. A great option for flat glued down commercial carpet. 
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| Post# 244684 , Reply# 77 8/9/2013 at 10:28 (3,906 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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Carpet Carpet in Hospitals in not the norm and no I do not attack out my Behind like so many Sebo fans. Could you imagine how difficult blood would be to clean off carpets all the time? 
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| Post# 244687 , Reply# 78 8/9/2013 at 10:59 (3,906 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Do not attack? Don't you mean talk?
As you will see from the previous replies sent by other members on here, others would beg to differ to your opinion regarding carpets in hospitals and - and rather than continually knock me down - prepared to watch, read and listen. If you can't do that, then you're on the wrong forum.
Furthermore, hospitals use all kinds of textures including that rubberised flooring that can be hard to clean. The polishers are useless - the machines that my local one uses is amazing - a Karcher upright that washes the floor, cleans the floors, scrubs the floor clean and not that noisy. Click the link if you want to LEARN. As for your SEBO brush roll, well they don't last forever which is why the models do carry a brush warning light. If you actually owned a SEBO you would know that, or any less the Windsor Sensor series that offers the same LED panel. UNLIKE Miele, SEBO further offer TWO different kind of brush rolls, the green one for delicate flooring and the normal blue one. UNLIKE your Miele, you can't change the brush roll any less either for cleaning it off if pet hairs get wound up it - with the SEBO/Windsor, it's just a simple press of the button and pull out. Also schools have deep carpets but it depends on where they are located - and SEBO uprights are used to clean them too. I've worked with cleaning companies and I certainly know the machines we've used. Your experience may differ from mine, and I'm glad of it - but don't try and battle your wits with me and pap off any old BS. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 244691 , Reply# 79 8/9/2013 at 11:08 (3,906 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire) | ||
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Just grow up for god sake before you end up taking over the most disliked vacland member title. The activator and hoover agitator belong in the past. They belong on traditional carpets NOT modern ones. Have seen these brushrolls ruin modern fashion carpets -I know from personal experience. Modern day fashion carpets require stiff brushrolls and thats where it ends. Sebo have their brushroll perfect for these. END OF. YOu have a Sebo yes but then the carpet in your house is pushing 20 odd years old so how can you decide whats what? Your attitude stinks and to hide behind another member, blame their influences, blame it on a very bad joke is just lame! Wehn you have used the amount and variety of vacs I and other members have used in a MIXTURE of different scenarios then you can bitch and slag off. Until then just zip it. My local hospital has all kinds of carpet in it. Day rooms have thick carpets for people to relax in. Waiting areas are carpet tiled, Entrance areas have rugged deep tread wall to wall matting. Offices seem to have a felted type carpet There are even gathering rooms used for various occasions for patients to celebrate or spend private time in that have very thick pile carpets. I have noticed Sebo's Henry's, Vaclensas knocking around the hospital all of which are very fit for the purpose. Get off your high horse and stop with the attitude before its too late. | ||
| Post# 244693 , Reply# 80 8/9/2013 at 11:12 (3,906 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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Rob...
Oh, Rob, you do make me laugh out loud...
It is bad to have daggers for people. If you don't like me, then stop following me around vacuumland, I am sure you just want an argument with me. Oh and finally, you are the one giving me advice...Is this not coming from the one who has been banned before? Can't think why... | ||
| Post# 244695 , Reply# 81 8/9/2013 at 11:20 (3,906 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 244697 , Reply# 82 8/9/2013 at 11:21 (3,906 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire) | ||
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| Post# 244699 , Reply# 83 8/9/2013 at 11:23 (3,906 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 244701 , Reply# 84 8/9/2013 at 11:26 (3,906 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire) | ||
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have a think
the activator nodules get worn over time and can get damaged with minute nicks and chunks out of them.
modern fashion carpet is like sizal, loop piles, twists, and all it takes is for a piece of the nodule plastic to be nicked as it grips the carpet and snags it and wraps the thread around the brushroll. result is one damaged threadbare carpet. on Sebo's the brushes only come into contact with the carpet where it simply sweeps it. No cushion of air, no beating. If the plastic of the brushroll gets damaged it cant snag the carpet as its nowhere near it. Now do you realise why? | ||
| Post# 244703 , Reply# 85 8/9/2013 at 11:28 (3,906 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 244705 , Reply# 86 8/9/2013 at 11:40 (3,906 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire) | ||
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| Post# 244709 , Reply# 87 8/9/2013 at 11:48 (3,906 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 244711 , Reply# 88 8/9/2013 at 11:52 (3,906 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 244715 , Reply# 89 8/9/2013 at 12:18 (3,906 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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I agree, Ryan... | ||
| Post# 244963 , Reply# 90 8/10/2013 at 03:27 (3,905 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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The simple thing is that we all like different model vacuums. My Favorite vintage brand is Electrolux, because my Grandfather was the md for Africa but I never met him, he died when my dad was just 15, That said , I have a real love for Hoovers, They make up the majority of my Vintage collection, probably because they sold the most vacuums in the pre 1980 in SA. My Favorite modern vacuum is a dyson, I was working for Electrolux when i got my first one and have never looked back. YOu will never convince me that any vacuum will clean my carpets better than my dc41,dc28 and dc18. In my house in my experiance nothing cleans my house as well as my dysons and I have tried and used just about everything.
That said if you like the Hoover turbo power or the Kirby sentria or what ever I appreciate your opinion. I kind of like this Hoover Commercial though I have never tried one yet, I have owned just about every sebo and can say that there brushrols are good ( I owned a commercial cleaning company, still own shares in it) They last long but in SA they are a little expensive, Just a tad and if this machine came in at half the price I would be tempted to buy them. On another topic, Tom Gasko aka Dysonman1 is a well known and widely respected Member of the vacuum community, He runs the vacuum Museum for Tacony and his opinion on a vacuum is widely respected by just about every vacuum manufacturer that is worth its salt. He has been collecting vacuums for longer than many of you have been alive so some respect for the man. I know from personal experience that dyson( the company ) is very helpful when it comes to collecting there vacuum cleaners. Gareth | ||
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