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My Post War model XXX.
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Post# 239542   7/9/2013 at 22:12 (3,940 days old) by kenkart ()        

Given to me in LA in 1995 by my friend Charles Lester,he also gave me the suction adjustor and the drapery tool.

Post# 239543 , Reply# 1   7/9/2013 at 22:14 (3,940 days old) by kenkart ()        
This one..

Has about all the accessories available, cordwinder, companion,sprayer, vaporizer, suction adjustor, polisher and the drapery tool.

Post# 239544 , Reply# 2   7/9/2013 at 22:16 (3,940 days old) by kenkart ()        
I have.

An original hose, but when I use it I use a vinyl one, the original one looks great but is stiff., I use the earlier style rug tool , I just like it better.

Post# 239545 , Reply# 3   7/9/2013 at 22:17 (3,940 days old) by kenkart ()        
Early

Rug tool, this seems to work better than the later one.

Post# 239546 , Reply# 4   7/9/2013 at 22:18 (3,940 days old) by kenkart ()        
Drapery tool

And suction adjuster.

Post# 239547 , Reply# 5   7/9/2013 at 22:20 (3,940 days old) by kenkart ()        
Bottom..

Of the drapery tool, showing the air passages, it really does work wonders with filmy material.

Post# 239548 , Reply# 6   7/9/2013 at 22:27 (3,940 days old) by kenkart ()        
Label..

Telling you what it came with, and the price, OPA ceiling price,75:67, Electrolux present selling price,69:75, since 1938,the OPA was the Office of Price Administration,the government set the maximum price that could be charged for household and other goods to keep down price gouging after World War 2, manufacturing took a few years to convert from war production to regular goods, so there was a tremendous shortage, some stores tried to charge rediculous prices for there goods when they could get them, Truman said NO WAY!

Post# 239549 , Reply# 7   7/9/2013 at 22:29 (3,940 days old) by kenkart ()        
Well

That didnt do so well, but you get the idea, all goods had a OPA ceiling price, I believe all the way up into 1953 when Ike took over as President.but im not sure when they were taken off vacuums.

Post# 239552 , Reply# 8   7/9/2013 at 22:42 (3,940 days old) by kenkart ()        
Did a little research..

The OPA was in effect from 1941 thru 1947, during the Korean conflict the OPS or Office of Price Stabilization was the agencys name, since the last letter is not readable on the label, it could be a s instead of an a so the actual age of this machine could vary a few years, but it does have the round runners and the 535 watt motor, so I believe it to be a 50 or 51 model, I wonder who could tell by the serial numbers???

Post# 239553 , Reply# 9   7/9/2013 at 23:05 (3,940 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I remember asking the question of decoding the serial numbers when the VCCC went to the Electrolux factory and I got the tour with the President of the company. The Lux serial numbers do not betray the cleaner's age. The company does maintain a record of when a particular serial number was built - but it was never made public to any of their service branches.

Post# 239555 , Reply# 10   7/9/2013 at 23:46 (3,940 days old) by kenkart ()        
Thanks Tom..

I do know anything with a Lamb motor can be dated, it is stamped on the fan case as well as the armature, I think Royal uprights have the fields or the armature stamped, when I got my Silver Knight, I replaced the brarings, the armature of the 4450 Lamb is stamped 10-55, meaning it is a late 55 or early 56 model, 55 was the first year for the Silver Knight.do you know of any other ways to date machines.??

Post# 239562 , Reply# 11   7/10/2013 at 01:39 (3,940 days old) by Electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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It's cool to be old enough to remember when there were many housewives with Model XXXs. I can think of a dozen of them right off the top of my head -- and not all of them were old biddies either!


Post# 240012 , Reply# 12   7/14/2013 at 03:41 (3,935 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        
I Agree, Charles!

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And one of those housewives was my Mom, who got her Lux XXX in 1952. Wish I had hers now. It had gray hammertone paint on the back end and the plastic dusting brush and upholstery tool. She had it until 1974, when I replaced it with a 966 Electro-Hygiene tank.
Jeff


Post# 313371 , Reply# 13   1/25/2015 at 22:00 (3,375 days old) by ronni (USA)        

In what years was the drapery tool sold? Was it optional or standard? Was it ever included in an owners manual? I have yet to see any literature about it, so if anyone has something please post it.

Post# 313381 , Reply# 14   1/25/2015 at 23:11 (3,375 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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Gee, I'd forgotten all about that XXX, Hans. Is the polisher you have the one we found in the closet upstairs in that filthy, junky thrift shop? Seems there was also a canister vacuum there that you wanted but the guy had a high-dollar price on it.


Post# 313400 , Reply# 15   1/26/2015 at 09:22 (3,374 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
My grandparents had one of those

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My grandparents had a vacuum almost identical to that. It was in regular use until my grandmother passed away and my grandfather went into assisted living in the late 1990s. I have no idea what became of it after that.

Post# 313475 , Reply# 16   1/26/2015 at 23:03 (3,374 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Ok, then. It seems that no one knows much about the elusive drapery tool's manufacture--either that or my post got got hidden when other replies were posted afterward that had nothing to do with my query.

I'm guessing that the tool either wasn't that effective or was so similar to the crevice tool and upholstery tool that customers didn't have much need for it.



Post# 313476 , Reply# 17   1/26/2015 at 23:19 (3,374 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
The drapery tool,

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WAS used on the early models like the X11, and the pre-war XXX! To see the info on this go to Vintage archives January 3, 2013, thread #19227 Lux Model 30/XXX tools, starting with reply #17.

This is an extensive thread of tools for models V, X1, X11, XXX, XX, LX, and so on dealing wth machines, tools and other Electrolux goodies. This tool was called the 'teardrop.'

Alex Taber.


Post# 313477 , Reply# 18   1/26/2015 at 23:31 (3,374 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Thanks very much, Alex. I did do a "Electrolux drapery tool" search but don't remember seeing that particular thread.

I am hoping at some point to see an owners manual page, so am hoping to view it there.

Recently I saw this 8 1/2 x 11 (1937?) Model XXX manual page posted on eBay that showed all the tools except the drapery tool, so I didn't think it was available at that time.


Post# 313479 , Reply# 19   1/26/2015 at 23:54 (3,374 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi ronni.

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That tool is also called the corner crevice tool. On that thread there are several tools. It's a great thread, I covered a lot of history, shared some repair tips and thanked a lot of people for sharing their great pictures. It's a fun read, have a look.

Alex.


Post# 313520 , Reply# 20   1/27/2015 at 11:43 (3,373 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Alex,

I have begun reading the thread and do find it both informative and interesting. It will take me a while to go through it, though--it sure is lengthy!

Regarding the corner crevice tool/teardrop/drapery tool ... it sure went by a lot of names for not being around all that long. It still surprises me that I haven't seen it featured in any manuals I have or have seen including the Model XXX and Model LX ones--not even as an optional attachment.

Its brown trim and base color lead me to think that it was primarily sold during the Model XII era with overstock being sold or just included with its immediate successors.


Post# 313543 , Reply# 21   1/27/2015 at 14:31 (3,373 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi ronni.

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Yes, that's quite a long thread, but full of data, especially when I answered the questions on repair to the model LX ejector system.

Many of the tools with the model V (5) became standard untill the introduction of the model E. And only the 'Rug tool' went through any significant changes over years.

The Teardrop shaped tool may have been optional like the white bristle brushes in later years. Somewhere in my book of Electrolux patents is the info, I believe it was Gustaf E Lofgren who designed it. That narrows it down to the plant in Old Greenwich, Connecticut, which opened in 1933, and continued to manufacture the last of the model X11's till they introduced the model XXX in 1937. The Teardrop tool might have also been an experiment, after all, the narrow space cleaner (crevice tool) and upholstry tool worked fine and were standard tools. I have pictures of the display of prototypes in the Electrolux museum 1954.

The 'suction regulator' was another tool sold at his time, but as we know, that became part of the hose handle in the mid 1950's. I think that was also with the model E.

I'll see if there's any more data on this tool, and if I find it, will post it.



Post# 313546 , Reply# 22   1/27/2015 at 14:40 (3,373 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi ronni.

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I added that thread to my 'favorites,' so I can refer to it from time to time, or direct people to it as I did with you. I think of it as my Electrolux 'cheat sheet,' for the early models.

It's also no surprise to people here that the LX is my favorite vacuum cleaner, as it began my interest. Let me also add that the model XXX is a close second.

For me, that thread is a trip down memory lane.


Post# 313548 , Reply# 23   1/27/2015 at 14:57 (3,373 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Thanks, Alex.

Yes, it is easy to ascertain that your favorite Electrolux is the Model LX--and I can see why. It was and is a well-designed, attractive, and fascinating machine. Correspondingly, the Model XXX has a classic design and is an effective cleaner.

Besides your patent info. I would like to see the corner crevice tool featured in an owners manual if you can find it.

One thing I especially appreciate about some long-time vacuum collectors/historians such as you is when you are humble enough to say "maybe ... " or "perhaps ... " to indicate that you are still learning and don't have all the answers.

On the other hand there are some who present themselves as being completely educated (as if there were such a thing) which may then lead to misinformation being promulgated along with stifling discussion and further research.

So, thanks for your ongoing research and discussion.


Post# 313568 , Reply# 24   1/27/2015 at 16:09 (3,373 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Thank you Ronni.

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If you don't know this, the reason the model LX is so special to me was the lady who owned it. I was only 2 years old, and thought the ejection process was great.

However, the interest began with the model XXX, though I was too young to know it. My grandparents claim that my first word was vac-um, and that's recorded in a book of my first year. (1950). The woman who had the model LX fed the interest, and fueled the obsession. Add to this, my grandfather worked for a boys boarding school, and let me play in the storerooms where the discarded Electrolux, Hoover, and Kirby machines were kept.

My interest in history of the vacuum cleaner taught me early that facts are not alweays right. Especially the various vacuum cleaner companies, because they don't concernn themselves with history, it's tomorrows sales, new designs, and so on. So for me, digging research was a major problem. Result, I tell what I feel is correct, and am quick to correct something if I find a fact is wrong!

And this was the reason the V.C.C.C. was created, to provide a place for those with the interest to vent. When I was a kid, very few people were interested in hearing about my obsession, so by the age of 31, I had a wealth of useless knowledge. Then I met John Lucia, and finally, I was able to share.

As I say, my research provides a lot of data, but if a book prints the wrong info, I keep it going. Only in the past 30 years have Hoover, Kirby and a few others opened up. In the early days of the V.C.C.C. Electrolux, Kirby and so on couldn't care less. Only Hoover accepted us, but that's for another post.

Contrary to popular belief, I'm NOT an 'expert' in the history of the vacuum cleaner, like others, I'm still learning.


Post# 313573 , Reply# 25   1/27/2015 at 17:06 (3,373 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi ronni.

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In reply 21 I spoke of the display of prototypes from 1954. It took a bit of digging but I located that thread. It's #23723, Electrolux white dusting brush & white wall brush. Again located in 'Vintage archives,' but the year is 2014, and the date is January 31.

Here the instruction book to the LX, and other data is poseed, plus the paperwork on the museum. Another member cleaned them up and posted better pictures. I also included also an article on the Electrolux canisters that were never produced for the public. That article was used in one of the early V.C.C.C. newsletters, I think dating back to Christmas 1985.

Alex Taber.


Post# 313574 , Reply# 26   1/27/2015 at 17:15 (3,373 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Awesome! I appreciate it, Alex.

Post# 313632 , Reply# 27   1/28/2015 at 09:11 (3,372 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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There are no Electrolux instruction manuals (for U.S. models) that feature the drapery tool. Just as there are no model AF instruction manuals that feature the Power Nozzle, even though it came with the AF for an entire year.

Post# 313636 , Reply# 28   1/28/2015 at 11:01 (3,372 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Thanks, Tom. I appreciate it.

Interesting information ... my earlier postulation that the corner crevice tool wasn't made for very long, then, is confirmed.

As for the gray PN-1 it must have been introduced after the last Model F manual had been printed. I'm guessing that it at least had its own leaflet like later ones I have seen.


Post# 313657 , Reply# 29   1/28/2015 at 15:46 (3,372 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I've never seen a leaflet on it either. I do know it ran for slightly longer than one year with the last Automatic F cleaners - but even through all these years that I've been collecting, have never seen anything printed on it. The first printed literature about the power nozzle introduced it with the model G - the cord was still one piece and ran from the Power nozzle all the way to the outlet on the cleaner, had three plastic clips to hold it to the hose. In 1961, that was changed - the cord was disconnectable at the handle end of the hose.

Electrolux tooled up to make the 'donut' style cord winder and the power nozzle at the same time. The last Automatic F books showed the new cord winder but made no mention of the power nozzle.


Post# 313707 , Reply# 30   1/29/2015 at 09:12 (3,371 days old) by ronni (USA)        

I enjoy learning those details. Thanks again, Tom.

I suppose, then, that Electrolux was test-marketing the gray PN-1s before it went the whole 9 yards of promoting its ivory successor with the Model AG (smart move).

I always get hungry talking about Electrolux cord winders--with their pancake- and donut-shaped styles--haha.



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