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Thread Number: 21208
My friends Miele Deep Clean S5 |
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| Post# 237399 6/23/2013 at 08:58 (3,953 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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I got to use it last night it was really good it has soo much suction and it is really quiet. Also I've never seen an orange Miele before! 
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| Post# 237400 , Reply# 1 6/23/2013 at 08:59 (3,953 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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Showing the tool compartment 
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| Post# 237401 , Reply# 2 6/23/2013 at 08:59 (3,953 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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DEEP CLEAN 
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| Post# 237406 , Reply# 3 6/23/2013 at 10:39 (3,953 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 237408 , Reply# 4 6/23/2013 at 11:11 (3,953 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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Yes it's great | ||
| Post# 237409 , Reply# 5 6/23/2013 at 11:27 (3,953 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 237448 , Reply# 6 6/23/2013 at 14:27 (3,953 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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I have a black one, and its gonna be hard to find anything better if it breaks. Mines in normal black though, love the orange | ||
| Post# 237454 , Reply# 7 6/23/2013 at 14:49 (3,953 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Is is better than a Henry? because I find Dyson DC08's and Henrys to be hard to beat when it comes to suction wise for a straight suctioned cylinder vac | ||
| Post# 237457 , Reply# 8 6/23/2013 at 15:03 (3,953 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
I have a red pearl limited edition S5211 - the orange one shown I think went under the name of Miele "Koi" as in the fish, hence the orange colour. Still on Amazon UK under the S5298 model number though far too much money there just for the colour change and a free mattress tool. Miele have a bad habit of doing that.
The "Deep Clean" is a bit of a misnomer - still the same 2200 watt motor that the "first in line" Black basic S5211 has and the S5210 before that. Miele's S5 was the top of the range before the S8 came above to replace it though Miele UK are still selling the S5 range. They're super vacuum cleaners though I wish they had a long cable. Henry vacs and other Numatics are different to Miele of course - the S5 has a smaller dust bag capacity to Numatic, but then I much prefer using Miele cylinder vacs like the S5 series because everything is on board and you get telescopic height adjustable tubes, quiet power and really easy to use. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 237459 , Reply# 9 6/23/2013 at 15:08 (3,953 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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I really want a new Miele vacuum it's more powerful than a Henry even with a full bag | ||
| Post# 237460 , Reply# 10 6/23/2013 at 15:11 (3,953 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 237462 , Reply# 11 6/23/2013 at 15:24 (3,953 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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OMG I want a MIELE S5 and have you tried a Dc08 with a contact head? WOW!!! 330 AW with SEALED suction! strongest suction at the head, its like your vacuuming your carpets with a large stair tool them types withhot airflow holes | ||
| Post# 237464 , Reply# 12 6/23/2013 at 15:27 (3,953 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
"I really want a new Miele vacuum" | ||
| Post# 237466 , Reply# 13 6/23/2013 at 15:30 (3,953 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Sorry Steve - totally disagree - and I'll tell you why - the Numatic has better sealed suction than the Miele - the rubberised hole at the bag makes it impossible for dirt to escape compared to the firmer, stiffer plastic cartridge on top of the dust bag in the Miele S5 models. Of course you get some loose dirt in the bag canister of the Numatic, but I wouldn't go as far to say that the Numatic is weaker on suction and Miele dust bags don't keep all the dirt in either. Infact, the Henry suffers from too much suction power hence the hi/lo button and the air bleeder valve at the top. Pushing the floor head across a carpet is tough thanks to the powerful suction and the floor head design on the Numatic. The Miele is different.
It is impossible to compare the two anyway, completely - one is a tub canister vacuum with a 7 litre capacity compared to a more domesticated sledge model with a 5 litre dust bag. See previous thread on here regarding dust on the outer part of the bag and seal of the Miele GN bags. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 237467 , Reply# 14 6/23/2013 at 15:38 (3,953 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 237468 , Reply# 15 6/23/2013 at 16:01 (3,953 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 237469 , Reply# 16 6/23/2013 at 16:04 (3,953 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire ) | ||
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| Post# 237473 , Reply# 17 6/23/2013 at 16:43 (3,953 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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I love your Mieles Michael :) especially the one on the right | ||
| Post# 237521 , Reply# 18 6/24/2013 at 01:25 (3,952 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 237522 , Reply# 19 6/24/2013 at 02:07 (3,952 days old) by madabouthoovers () | ||
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The orange model is still available as an exclusive to Miele's online shop, selling at £220. They have had this on for ages. CLICK HERE TO GO TO madabouthoovers's LINK | ||
| Post# 237523 , Reply# 20 6/24/2013 at 02:24 (3,952 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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They look so sleek and modern :) | ||
| Post# 237533 , Reply# 21 6/24/2013 at 03:40 (3,952 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Ryan, for the first time, I disagree with you. It's incredibley rare to find ANY loose dust and dirt inside the Miele bag chamber, whereas it's a common enough site to see a Numatic tub and filter caked in fine dust. Of course this has been improved with the HEPAflo bags in recent years, but they're still not as efficient as the Miele Hyclean bags.
In my home, I would much rather use a Miele. Smaller and easier to move around, quieter, on board tools and far easier to store. Also, the Miele floortool is wheeled and much better for use on thick carpets. The Numatic floortool is often a nightmare to use on rugs and thick carpets. Don't get me wrong, I still think Numatic are great, but the only advantage they have over a Miele cylinder is the lower price. | ||
| Post# 237587 , Reply# 23 6/24/2013 at 11:46 (3,952 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Miele/SEBO good for luxury use, for everything else, its Hen Yet again, I hasten to add as I've done previously that the Numatic tub canister and Miele's sledge vacuums are different. I can't and never will set them together as direct rivals, unless god forbid Numatic reduces the bag capacity to a much smaller 4.5 litre capacity or 5 litre capacity. But even then, one has to be able to see the Numatic Henry for what it is. Due to its commercial design, not only are spares readily available, they're cheaper to buy and wider to source. Also with the 32mm tubing, other existing brands can also be used in so far as after market tools, tubes with cheaper cost price etc - With Miele, you're reduced to only using Miele tools or at a push, Bosch.
Whilst the Miele is a great vacuum cleaner to have in the home, it doesn't tick all the boxes for me in so far as a general all rounder - because perhaps in a way, I treat both my Miele vacs and SEBO cylinders with respect. I would never use either to pick up garden waste, would never dream of scraping their rubberised wheels along the path to my car and would never dream of using either vacuum without a dust bag in place; both are too expensive and damaging for any of those uses.
The Henry or whichever model you choose from Numatic however is robust enough to be trundled out to the car or garage for more abrasive pick up, plus can be used bagless (at the detriment of having to clean it out physically after use) if you run out of bags. Miele after all these years, still won't develop a fabric SMS useable, washable dust bag for situations of not having bags to hand at the time and buying 4 in a box at a time is not a cheap and cost effective answer - not when SEBO produce 7 or 10 in a box at similar prices.
Thus, the all rounder is Henry. Yes, it may well have a dusty chamber compared to Miele's bin area but at least you get a long hose and a long cord plus a more robust design. Commercial or not - Henry is built to be an all rounder with only a few downsides compared to the expense of the Germans.
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| Post# 237592 , Reply# 24 6/24/2013 at 12:35 (3,952 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Here are some photos of my "old" Miele S6240. Since purchasing it in April 2011 it has become a daily driver due to its quick comfort cord rewind and general power. However I can't stand the heavier weight AirTeq double pedal floor head as it is too heavy and often gets caught up with the cord when parked at the rear. Eventually used an older floor head that is far more efficient and slimmer.
As you will see the paintwork on this model shows up white paint very easily. Though all models are premium priced, Miele only added the Red Velvet model as the top of the line with a red felt body. Don't know if anyone has one where the actual felt has sustained general marks of use, though.
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| Post# 237593 , Reply# 25 6/24/2013 at 12:36 (3,952 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 237594 , Reply# 26 6/24/2013 at 12:42 (3,952 days old) by edgar (Belgium) | ||
Miele koi | ||
| Post# 237689 , Reply# 28 6/25/2013 at 10:10 (3,951 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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The original pricing for the S6 was always around the £200 mark. Infact the base line blue model cost £219 when it first appeared and the price kind of stuck that way until the Ecoline model came down in price. After more stocks of the S2 appeared including the higher priced limited edition colour ones like the white one to sit alongside the blue or red S2 cylinders, Miele then reduced pricing on the S6 as well as adding another colour variant, the black/dark grey S2 that I bought. That colour option is now standard in the S2 range with the blue one no longer sold, though probably still available online.
Miele vacs though can be expensive to run as well though - see previous posts on here with optional floor heads plus problems. The biggest downside are the cost of the bags - only 4 at a time in a pack unless you buy two boxes at a time. It doesn't really matter regarding the different prices of the Miele S6 in general, but rather the cost of the smaller bags that has to be taken into consideration. I've tried the copy ones but they don't last and they fill up more quickly cutting off the power/suction available. I tend to the buy the older IntensiveClean bags wherever I can get them (normally EBAY) rather than use the HyClean ones. Some would argue that the HyClean ones are better but I don't find either to offer any great differentiation - at least both are Genuine. | ||
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