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Thread Number: 21109
anyone tested a Filter Queen with a particle counter? |
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| Post# 236415 , Reply# 1 6/13/2013 at 17:01 (3,967 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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Hmmm, that would be interesting to see. I wonder if anyone on Youtube has done that. Filter Queen claims they filter better than HEPA and supposedly this has been proven in a laboratory. However, laboratories and real world events don't often correlate exactly so I would be very interested in seeing a FQ filled with dirt and tested with a particle counter. | ||
| Post# 236429 , Reply# 2 6/13/2013 at 19:01 (3,967 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
Think about it for a second. The cone plus the medipure filter will certainly filter to HEPA levels before the air enters the motor. However, the carbon brush particles coming off the motor (which is harmless) is still seen as a 'particle' by the counter. As the FQ has only a foam batting filter after the motor, the particle count will be high. One must remember that the carbon particles aren't actually 'dirt' and harm no one. The particle counter is a great tool in the hands of a Miele dealer - but that doesn't make the counter any more 'meaningful' than any other 'testing gauge' (like a water lift guage).
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| Post# 236440 , Reply# 3 6/13/2013 at 20:28 (3,967 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke () | ||
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Tom, that is a very good point! | ||
| Post# 236507 , Reply# 4 6/14/2013 at 13:22 (3,966 days old) by KirbysNphones () | ||
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Indeed, never thought of the carbon particles. | ||
| Post# 236518 , Reply# 5 6/14/2013 at 15:01 (3,966 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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A TriStar A101 (EXL, MG & CS) has the cleanest exhaust because it has a micron (or HEPA) filter on the exhaust end of unit. 
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| Post# 236520 , Reply# 6 6/14/2013 at 15:15 (3,966 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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actually...
The TriStar's exhaust isn't as "particle free" as you might think. For example, with the CXL and it's pleated "mushroom" exhaust filter system - the ring on which the filter is mounted is riveted onto the body of the cleaner. Air leaks from under that plastic ring along with carbon particles.
The Miele and Rainbow (with 2 speed brushless motor) as well as the DC22 Dyson, have the cleanest exhausts. The Rainbow and DC22 have brushless motors, and the Miele's system is so tightly sealed that even the military couldn't penetrate it. | ||
| Post# 236599 , Reply# 7 6/15/2013 at 09:59 (3,965 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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Wow Dysonman1, you have really educated me on those two machines and their exhausts. It never occurred to me to consider the carbon discharge. So I guess the HEPA filters before the exhaust are the biggest factor for them to record 0. | ||
| Post# 236647 , Reply# 8 6/15/2013 at 15:45 (3,965 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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A sealed HEPA filter cartridge AFTER the motor, located in a sealed-body cleaner, will give the cleanest exhaust. That being said, there's no reason to believe that a machine with high carbon brush particle emissions are bad. Consider the mixer or blender, those particles just blow right onto the counter while they're running. In my personal opinion, a HEPA disposable bag is all anyone really needs to achieve a really clean vacuum exhaust. As long as the dirt isn't coming back into the room, I don't mind the relatively tiny amount of carbon particles coming off the motor's brushes.
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| Post# 236650 , Reply# 9 6/15/2013 at 16:00 (3,965 days old) by joshdonnell () | ||
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Clean exhaust What about a Metrovac? Is the exhaust still pretty clean? Even without a Hepa bag? Even with carbon dust? Even a Kirby? | ||
Post# 236773 , Reply# 11 6/16/2013 at 21:36 (3,964 days old) by Durango159  (State College, PA) |
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FilterQueen filtration surpasses HEPA!!
HEPA removes down to .3 Micron. The FilterQueen Majestic utilizes the same filtration as the Defender Air Filtration unit. These units capture particles 3x smaller than HEPA down to .1 Micron. Both units are classified as Class II Medical devices being used in hospitals and nursing homes.
The Defender Air Cleaner utilizes a brush less motor. The Majestic High Filtration Multi Surface and Multi-Function cleaner does use a carbon brush motor and has a thick felt filter built into the exhaust cap to capture dust off the motor. Additionally, the Majestic's cyclonic technology and centrifugal force to keep dirt away from the 16 multi-layer compressed patented cone while unit is operating. Imagine an amusement gravitron ride or salad spinner pulling dirt to outside during operation and away from center where cone filter is. This is a complete contrast to typical vacuum cleaner technology where dirt, dust and debris are forcefully blown towards or pulled into a flat surface bag or filter forcing pores to clog. You would literally need to draw a road map for dirt to force dirt through a Genuine FilterQueen cone. The addition of the optional Medipure maintains its primary purpose of utilizing the charcoal layer to remove smoke, odors, and gaseous fumes from a home. FilterQueen is providing home owners with the tools to clean homes efficiently, and effectively without redistributing dirt, dust, pollens, bacteria, mold spores, and germs back out into the air like many other machines on the market do. The emissions of vacuum cleaners in a home is not only terrible for lungs, breathing abilities of humans, and animals but also terrible for electronics and appliances such as refrigerators where dirt clings to coils making units run hotter and utilize more electricity. The FilterQueen has a tight seal to the tank with neoprene gasket to metal motor housing base. Attachment connection have a gasket to avoid any airless at connections. | ||
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Post# 236777 , Reply# 12 6/16/2013 at 23:16 (3,964 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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I KNEW you'd eventually jump in here. | ||
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