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Post# 233212   5/19/2013 at 10:43 (3,987 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        

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I think it's a Hoover Elite. It's in rough shape but I'll see what I can do with it.

Post# 233213 , Reply# 1   5/19/2013 at 10:45 (3,987 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
A close up of the nozzle

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Pretty dirty and marked up. Have to see what a Magic Eraser can do.

Post# 233214 , Reply# 2   5/19/2013 at 10:48 (3,987 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
Pic 3

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Here is the back side of it. The cord is there but it's been cut in half, and the hose and attachments are gone. Have to keep an eye on eBay for them.

Post# 233215 , Reply# 3   5/19/2013 at 10:50 (3,987 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
And another

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This is the model and serial number plate on the bottom.

Post# 233217 , Reply# 4   5/19/2013 at 10:53 (3,987 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
And finally

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I heard something rattling when I shook the machine, and this quarter fell out. It's pretty bent up.

Post# 233218 , Reply# 5   5/19/2013 at 10:53 (3,987 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Was it a trash find?

Post# 233219 , Reply# 6   5/19/2013 at 10:55 (3,987 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
Yes

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It was sitting next to the dumpster. I had to catch the bus, so I hid it behind the bin, and it was still there when I got home.

Post# 233229 , Reply# 7   5/19/2013 at 13:24 (3,987 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
Does anyone know how

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To take apart this vacuum? I can't find a manual, and don't want to accidentally break anything.

Post# 233235 , Reply# 8   5/19/2013 at 13:56 (3,987 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        
Taking Apart an Elite

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What is that you need to remove? To get the hood off, you unscrew the bottom base-plate, then slowly pry off the hood from the base with a flat-head screwdriver. Let me know what type of info you need and I can get some pictures. 


Post# 233236 , Reply# 9   5/19/2013 at 14:17 (3,987 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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Joe,

This machine appears to be a Runabout/Encore model. It would be great if anyone could identify the original red bag on this February 1999-built machine.

~Ben


Post# 233243 , Reply# 10   5/19/2013 at 14:55 (3,987 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
Thanks guys! :-)

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I wanted to completely break it down and give it a complete cleanup. If it's a1999 model, then I've accidentally put it in the wrong forum. Sorry about that. I found a YouTube video on replacing the fan, and I was able completely tear it down (without breaking anything to boot) :-). It is filthy inside. I'm gonna soak the housings and clean them up as well as possible. It looks like it will clean up nicely. The brush roll and belt appear to be in very good shape and won't need replacing. I haven't tested the motor yet, but the armature spins nice and freely, and it doesn't have any burnt smell so i think it'll be good. Wish I had a dishwasher to run the parts through. I should have it back together this week. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.

Post# 233366 , Reply# 11   5/20/2013 at 16:23 (3,986 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Hoover Encore service

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The red base is a Hoover Encore. Would be early 90's these were seen in Best store catalogs years ago! The bag has been replaced. Normally the first 4 numbers of serial are date code, but I definitely think this machine is older than 1999. Perhaps someone can run model number and see if it matches this hood.

Disassembly requires flat head screw driver. There are notches on agitator base plate. Locate two notches on either side, stick in screw driver and release latch. Pull up on plate and rotate towards front of cleaner. There are no screws to remove in-order to take off base plate or hood on Elite/ Sprint/ Encore/ Futura/ Runabout/ Convertible/ Preferred, Turbo Power 1500, 1700, 2000, 2200 and other similarly branded machines of this style.

Then you must remove hood. While cleaner is still lying down. Locate 2 notches with arrows on both sides where red hood meets black base. Stick in flat head screw driver on notches and gently release latches connecting base to hood. It's easier to do one side, then the other, just watch that latches may be relock while rotating. Once all 4 are released, flip cleaner over and remove hood from back to front.

From there you can release belt from motor shaft and then pull out agitator on bottom side. No headlight on this model but there is a vent on top of motor and lots of lint collects there on these models. Handle and motor are attached via two motor mounts on either side-- 1 by motor pulley and one by fan chamber. Use Philips screwdriver to remove 2 screws on each and then bracket should release and you can separate components. Bag compartment is attached to motor via a long screw and nut at bottom of handle section. That can be removed.

Fans are supposed to be easy to service on these, however I've never needed to do so, so I've never taken one apart. Once agitator, belt and motor are released from base, there will be nothing electrical left in base and it can be soaked in the sink. Just dry very thoroughly and quickly so you don't rust height adjustment spring or wheel axles.

Agitator is 12" Elite style. Two types will fit. 48414079 is a single row bristle. 48414081 is a 2 row bristle. Only replace with genuine Hoover brush roll. The Elite style CWP is not good. If not replacing agitator, its a great idea to disassemble brush roll and clean and grease bearings or replace. Also check your washers. Washers are to be reassembled with middle sticking up and touching metal bottom of ball bearing. Bottom ends till touch plastic resting base in brush roll housing. Agitator should rotate very smooth, quiet, nonstop, no rubs when in proper running order. To disassemble agitator, grasp end caps firmly and turn in opposing directions. They will unscrew. Once shaft is pulled out of brush roll, you can firmly grasp shaft and end cap and unscrew. A rubber glove for grip may be helpful on shaft or in worst case scenario, a vice grip. in middle of shaft-- don't mar ends where end caps, washer and bearings go.


Type A bag-- can use new Hoover HEPA A bags, belt is 38528-027- old number. New style 38528-040. Only use genuine Hoover belt sized for that machine. Any other will not run properly.

In general these machines were decent cleaners that ran efficient requiring little to no service. My grandmom had a bagged Hoover Elite Supreme that she had for 17 years problem free. She moved and let it sell with the house to new owners. I checked and cleaned machine after she moved. It needed a new cord but other than that it cleaned and ran excellent.

Enjoy and best of luck!


Post# 233374 , Reply# 12   5/20/2013 at 17:12 (3,986 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

My Encore is from January 1994; also a trash find.

 

It seems like a rare event to find good vacuums on the curb here; but when I find something worth keeping, I also see high-end units like TriStar/Compact, Sanitaire, Electrolux.  I load as many as I can into my car.Tongue out


Post# 233454 , Reply# 13   5/21/2013 at 09:41 (3,985 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
Thanks Rob :-)

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I got it apart and didn't break anything, (which is always a plus!).  It is really dirty, but looks like it will clean up well.  What bag should be on this machine?  Also, I did an eBay search on this machine looking for a hose and attachments, and can't believe how expensive the hose is.  I'll keep looking and maybe I can find a junker that I can scavenge those parts from.


Post# 233507 , Reply# 14   5/21/2013 at 23:23 (3,985 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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Hoover Type A bags. They are available in regular filtration-- which is no longer good with the new cheap paper being used, allergen filtration and HEPA material.

Post# 233632 , Reply# 15   5/22/2013 at 19:32 (3,984 days old) by 2011hoover700 (owosso michigan)        

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@durango159, can I have a part# for the new hoover type A hepa bags? That would help tremendously for searching in my favorate website I listed in my profile.


Post# 233919 , Reply# 16   5/24/2013 at 23:01 (3,982 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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Hoover HEPA A Bags:
43655126
AH10135
hoover.com/parts/details/ah10135/...

See link below for generic Hoover HEPA A bags from Crucial Vacuum.


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