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Post# 232748   5/15/2013 at 09:28 (3,991 days old) by kirbylover66 ()        

Hello everyone,
Im new to this site after searching the web for info on the Kirby Tradition that I found on the curb waiting to be hauled to the trash dump. She looked in pretty bad shape and when I got it home my wife asked what I was doing with "that piece of junk". Well after I got done working on it she changed her mind and couldnt believe that it was the same machine. I still have a few things to do to it, like getting a new safty switch. The old one was broken and held togather with electrical tape. lol I also need to get a new brushroll for it, Ive used it to vacuum the house a few times now and I have to say I like it better than my Kirby G6, that I picked up at an estate sale for only $125. barely used including attachments and shampooer. Here are some before and after pics of my Tradition, Please tell me what you think of the job.


Post# 232766 , Reply# 1   5/15/2013 at 13:09 (3,991 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Sad what people will toss out, those are so strongly built and pretty easy to work on. Good find.

Post# 232767 , Reply# 2   5/15/2013 at 13:10 (3,991 days old) by cleaningbuff (Quincy, IL)        

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i do not see the after pics

Post# 232785 , Reply# 3   5/15/2013 at 15:14 (3,991 days old) by kirbylover66 ()        
More pics

Had a computer issue, here are some more pics.

Post# 232786 , Reply# 4   5/15/2013 at 15:16 (3,991 days old) by kirbylover66 ()        
more

Another before pic.

Post# 232787 , Reply# 5   5/15/2013 at 15:18 (3,991 days old) by kirbylover66 ()        
Now the after shots

Looks a little different now

Post# 232788 , Reply# 6   5/15/2013 at 15:20 (3,991 days old) by kirbylover66 ()        
side view

Heres the profile

Post# 232789 , Reply# 7   5/15/2013 at 15:22 (3,991 days old) by kirbylover66 ()        
more

rear view

Post# 232790 , Reply# 8   5/15/2013 at 15:23 (3,991 days old) by kirbylover66 ()        
side view

Heres the right side

Post# 232791 , Reply# 9   5/15/2013 at 15:29 (3,991 days old) by BrianKirbyClass (Eudora Kansas)        

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WOW! Veery Nice! Excellent job! Look at that shine! Even has the original wheels!

Post# 232792 , Reply# 10   5/15/2013 at 15:30 (3,991 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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I noticed there is a provision for the headlight safety switch, since on the outside of the headlight cap there is an opening where the cap lock button would go.

That would also mean this machine would use a 10-blade metal fan (#119056). That makes this unit a 1979 model (serial #F000001 to #F500000).

~Ben


Post# 232793 , Reply# 11   5/15/2013 at 15:31 (3,991 days old) by kirbylover66 ()        
Finally

Heres a pic of the front, I have the safety speed switch wired out of the circuit until I get a new switch. I also am waiting on a new foam rug plate gasket and a new o ring for the front of the housing where the nozzle meets.

Post# 232796 , Reply# 12   5/15/2013 at 15:42 (3,991 days old) by kirbylover66 ()        
front view

Thanks for the comments, Yes it has the old headlight switch provisions, but it must have been converted in its past. The seriel number is F447325. Im not sure how to deciepher the number for date of production. Here is a before pic of the front with the messed up safety switch.

Post# 232797 , Reply# 13   5/15/2013 at 15:42 (3,991 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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You need part #134380 as the safety switch, #154870 for the rug plate gasket and #122068 for the O-ring motor gasket.

~Ben


Post# 232798 , Reply# 14   5/15/2013 at 15:46 (3,991 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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What a glamour puss she is now!

Post# 232807 , Reply# 15   5/15/2013 at 17:00 (3,991 days old) by kirbylover66 ()        
parts coming

Thanks everyone, yep I have the motor o ring and the rug plate gasket were ordered yesterday and should be here soon. I buffed her out on a 1 1/2 hp wheel using brown tripoli, and white rouge.

Post# 232819 , Reply# 16   5/15/2013 at 18:55 (3,991 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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The date of production for your unit is approximately November 1979. Again, there should be a 10-blade metal fan.

~Ben


Post# 232834 , Reply# 17   5/15/2013 at 20:45 (3,990 days old) by cam2s (Nebraska)        
Wow!

What a beautiful restoration. It really shines! Kirbys are such elegant machines, especially with that showroom shine!

Post# 232837 , Reply# 18   5/15/2013 at 21:03 (3,990 days old) by kirbylover66 ()        

Hi Ben,

Thanks for deciephering the seriel number for me, I had no idea how it went. I went and pulled the nozzle off and checked the fan, I counted 11 blades and the fan was a light gray in color and it looked to be plastic, maybe lexan? Maybe the original metal one was replaced when the headlight switch was replaced. With 11 blades its no wonder its so quiet and the suction to the carpet is just unreal. Ive had to open the suction relief on the nozzle just a tad to make it easier to move. Im looking forward to getting a new brushroll on it and seeing how well it cleans. You can definately see the nozzle pull the carpet up slightly when its running with the nozzle lowered to where it changes motor tone. I think ive really fallen in love with this machine lol.


Post# 232838 , Reply# 19   5/15/2013 at 21:10 (3,990 days old) by kirbylover66 ()        

Thanks Cam,
She really did clean up nice, my wife was just speechless when I showed it her, she didnt think it was the same vacuum.
I agree, Kirbys are beautiful machines, when theyre shined up they just seem like a work of art for me.


Post# 232841 , Reply# 20   5/15/2013 at 21:27 (3,990 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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Yes, in your case it is a replacement fan, as the first usage in the Tradition did not start until January 1980, after Kirby changed the safety switch setup from being on the headlight to the fan case below the intake opening. Like I said earlier, the original one was indeed a 10-blade metal fan whose first use was on the model 515 introduced for 1955.

Problem: Getting an NOS #119056 fan can be as rare as hen's teeth. It can also be found on donor Kirbys from the 516 to the Classic III.

~Ben


Post# 232843 , Reply# 21   5/15/2013 at 22:41 (3,990 days old) by dustin (Jackson, MI)        

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I have a Kirby Classic III (red one, the model before your tradition) that I trash picked a few years ago, and other than being filthy and full of cat/ dog hair, it works great. I also have a Kirby Classic Omega, (Brown, made before the Classic III) That is yours if you want to fix it up. As far as I know, it only needs a new on/off switch and carbon brushes. It was given to me a few years ago, and I replaced the motor bearings, cord, and brushroll. I hadn't polished it yet, and used it maybe 3 times, until the switch went out, and frustrated, I completely lost interest in it. It is up at our other house right now, but as far as I know, I'm going up monday and can bring it back with me. All I ask is that I see pictures after it is done! Your Tradition looks fabulous!

Post# 232850 , Reply# 22   5/16/2013 at 00:35 (3,990 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Someone would throw away a vacuum as nice as that-and fixable with a little work/They should be thrown out.Great job in polishing it back up.Looks like brand new.It does have the plastic fan-guess the metal one was replaced?

Post# 232854 , Reply# 23   5/16/2013 at 01:58 (3,990 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)        

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its always nice to see someone restore an old beat up kirby. that restoration is exquisit. wonderful job! i have restored about 10 myself, some for me, some for friends.... still have a ds50 and sanitronic VII left to do for my personal collection...

Will Hemb


Post# 232873 , Reply# 24   5/16/2013 at 11:11 (3,990 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Wonderful transformation!

Post# 232886 , Reply# 25   5/16/2013 at 13:03 (3,990 days old) by kirbyguy (Columbia, MO)        
Fantastic restoration job

You did an amazing restoration job. What did you use on the metal to get it to shine like new again?

As for other parts you may need. Check out Ebay's vintage vacuum's section I have no doubt you'll find the parts your looking for. As a matter of fact, there's a NOS Tradition bag up at auction now. I get a lot of my vintage Kirby parts from a seller on Ebay who goes by the seller name of Kirbyfans. If Kent doesn't have the part you need he'll do his best to find it for you.

Again,Looks FANTASTIC.


Post# 232887 , Reply# 26   5/16/2013 at 13:36 (3,990 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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And considering this is an early one, as it began life with its safety switch on the headlight instead of below the intake opening.

~Ben


Post# 232897 , Reply# 27   5/16/2013 at 14:59 (3,990 days old) by kirbylover66 ()        

Thanks again for all the compliments everybody! Im proud of the way it turned out, Kirbyguy, its funny that you should mention the ebayer Kirbyfans because hes the one im getting the motor o-ring and the new rug plate gasket from, he seems to have alot of parts. I buffed it on my 1 1/2hp buffing wheel using brown tripoli first, then white rouge for the final cut and polish, its a two wheel machine so I didnt mix up the two different compounds. The original metal fan has been replaced with an 11 blade lexan or kevlar blade, probably when it was converted from the old headlight switch to the one on the motor housing in front. I found that by using a very very light touch I was able to buff the rubber bag guard at the bottom and the one at the top of the bag to a very nice shine so they look almost new. I also very lightly buffed the headlight lens the same way and turned out pretty clear and shiny.I have already replaced the vis a window and the blue headlight bumper with nos parts, they were chewed up and the old vis window had a nice circle melted into the center of it.lol All in all I would have to guesstimate that i have about 20 hours into it, most of that being the buffing process which I actually did twice, because it wasnt shiney enough for me after the first time. lol
Dustin, thats quite a generous offer, and I would very much like to take the Omega off your hands and finish it up. I would of course let you see the after pics, that would go without saying. You can email me, my email is in my profile, and we can set up a time so that I could pick it up, Jackson isnt far from me. The classic lll model is another of my favorites, the aluminum with red trim is really good look togather, the Omega looks the same just brown. I would love to work on it. Thanks,

Bob


Post# 232971 , Reply# 28   5/17/2013 at 10:00 (3,989 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
That work is, in a word,

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"impressive". WEll done!

Post# 233123 , Reply# 29   5/18/2013 at 09:08 (3,988 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Very nice, but how come the serial number etched on the old fan housing F447325 doesn't match that on the buffed up machine which appears to read F664620?

Post# 233127 , Reply# 30   5/18/2013 at 09:16 (3,988 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Steve- I've just zoomed in and they both look the same to me

Post# 233130 , Reply# 31   5/18/2013 at 09:35 (3,988 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

You need to look at them very carefully, the shiny one is definitely a different fan housing. The serial numbers are different, but I'm sure there will be a logical reason why this is so, such as the owner changed the fan housing cover for a different one, but those etched serial numbers are unique to each and every Kirby - on later models they showed the date of manufacture, 1811000354 means it was made at plant 1 in the 10 th month of 81, and the 00354 means it was the 354th one off the line.

Post# 233160 , Reply# 32   5/18/2013 at 13:37 (3,988 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Well no offence but they still look the same serial numbers!

Post# 233245 , Reply# 33   5/19/2013 at 15:22 (3,987 days old) by kirbylover66 ()        

Im not sure what your seeing but it is most definately the same fan housing. lol
Here is a closeup of the fan housing serial number. Maybe its the angle in the pic makes it look different, but thats the same housing as the one in the before pic, but with the new nozzle o ring installed.


Post# 233264 , Reply# 34   5/19/2013 at 20:22 (3,986 days old) by ElectroluxKirby ()        

WOW, looks fabulous!


Post# 290674 , Reply# 35   7/28/2014 at 04:40 (3,552 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
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Bob,

I actually need to correct myself as to say the speed switch was always on the fan case for this serial #... it was only those units prior to about F300000 that actually had the speed switch inside the headlight.

Rather, I should say your example would have the usual Classic Omega/III speed switch on the fan case, but with a blue dust cover mounted over it to protect the Rug Renovator belt from moisture. However, even that was problematic for it would jam the motor to the point it would always run on high speed, so Kirby subsequently advised its dealer network to remove the dust cover from the switch.

Your machine would still have had both the 10-blade metal fan, and the locking headlight.

~Ben


Post# 290693 , Reply# 36   7/28/2014 at 11:26 (3,552 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

Someone was just going to toss that poor abused vac in the dump. Sigh. Nice save, your restoration skills are tremendous. Also, good eye to see that vac on the curb. I bet you always have an eye peeled for curb finds. Great work all around, bravo.

As an aside I have often wondered about sanding and polishing plastic vacuum surfaces that are scratched up but never had the nerve to try. I end up shining them up by hand polishing and automotive wax but leave the big battle scars in place. Anyone ever tried sanding and polishing a plastic vacuum like you would aluminum?


Post# 290712 , Reply# 37   7/28/2014 at 13:35 (3,552 days old) by jodan3399 (Brownsville, PA)        

WOW! You did an awesome job on that one! She looks beautiful.

Post# 290717 , Reply# 38   7/28/2014 at 14:03 (3,552 days old) by Kirbykid (Horseheads,New York 14845)        

What size wheels do you use?

Post# 290744 , Reply# 39   7/28/2014 at 17:21 (3,552 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

I can't stop comparing the before and after images of the front of the vacuum with the headlight raised to expose the switch. Wow, just wow. What a change.

Post# 290745 , Reply# 40   7/28/2014 at 17:22 (3,552 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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The really big ones! They sell them at Harbour Freight! wink

 

Now I'm buying a giant motor and some buffing pads, looks like my Handi-Butler will be going into retirement!


Post# 290898 , Reply# 41   7/29/2014 at 13:58 (3,551 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

Considering how you found it, I reckon you could now call it your Curby.

I know, bad, very bad. But I had to !


Post# 290929 , Reply# 42   7/29/2014 at 16:45 (3,551 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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How do you date Kirbys from their serial number?



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