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Post# 232213   5/11/2013 at 12:39 (3,974 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)   |   | |
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After the Aerus dealership closed its 23rd Street store in Manhattan (most convenient to me), I did the schlep up and over to the Upper East Side location (77th and York -- OY!) to finally test-drive the Guardian.
LOVE it! What really impressed me is when the guy took me into the back room and showed me all the vacuums they took in as trade-ins just over the past month. I counted about 50 (yes, FIFTY) late-model Mieles whose motors had burned out, as well as dozens of Dysons, standing like sad and tired sentries, lined up against the back wall. Anyway, the price they quoted was $2100. Good deal? |
Post# 232214 , Reply# 1   5/11/2013 at 12:48 (3,974 days old) by mieles7 (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 232218 , Reply# 2   5/11/2013 at 13:09 (3,974 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 232363 , Reply# 4   5/12/2013 at 08:11 (3,973 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 232364 , Reply# 5   5/12/2013 at 08:31 (3,973 days old) by s31463221 (Frenchburg, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 232425 , Reply# 6   5/12/2013 at 12:32 (3,973 days old) by vacman1961 (North Babylon, New York)   |   | |
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I bought one for a shower gift last month for $825.00. |
Post# 232520 , Reply# 7   5/13/2013 at 08:56 (3,972 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 232570 , Reply# 9   5/13/2013 at 14:12 (3,972 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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There is a HUGE markup on premium vacuums. Example: the new Rainbow E2 (Onyx) cost $650 to the distributor. Who in turn sells them to a sub distributor for $1000 (which is what I pay). They are then sold to the 'area distributor' for $1300. After the salesman's commission is added in, plus the cost of the financing, commission to the girl who sets the phone appointments, to the training manager's commission, the price ends up at $2400. For a $650 vacuum (and Rexair is making money on the $650 wholesale price).
Another example: a Kirby distributor whom I know very well, pays $550 for a new Sentria II. Anything he sells it for over the $550 is profit. If a new Aerus Platinum costs $750 at wholesale, the distributor is free to mark it up as high, or as low, as they wish. As independent franchise stores, their prices are never set in stone any longer. The huge cost of running a sales office in any particular area is reflected on the retail price. The Commission schedule is different for different salesmen as well, again, affecting the retail price. |
Post# 283687 , Reply# 12   6/8/2014 at 12:32 (3,581 days old) by luxman107 (USA )   |   | |
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Sent you an email. |
Post# 284170 , Reply# 15   6/12/2014 at 07:29 (3,577 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 284247 , Reply# 21   6/12/2014 at 17:06 (3,577 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 284255 , Reply# 22   6/12/2014 at 17:37 (3,577 days old) by Gr8DaneDad ()   |   | |
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Information is a wonderful thing to have. Thanks for updating us and congratulations for working it out with the rep and Manager. |
Post# 289950 , Reply# 23   7/23/2014 at 17:37 (3,536 days old) by bbgirl ()   |   | |
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Ok, I am reading all this great info. I want the new aerus, but what should I pay. I don't want to pay retail. Do you think I can get it for $1000-$1200 all in? I never know how much I can negotiate. |
Post# 291053 , Reply# 24   7/30/2014 at 10:42 (3,529 days old) by cleanfreak ()   |   | |
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If you want a Guardian Platinum at the best price call Don Martin 877-816-6861 |
Post# 292969 , Reply# 32   8/11/2014 at 14:46 (3,517 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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I have mine put away in the original box. I am going to trade it in for the 90th Anniversary Lux Legacy. Mine was one of the first ones and so I have the older less improved power nozzle. The bumper leaves black marks on my baseboards. No other vacuum I have does this......Will not use for that reason. Maybe Aerus realized this problem and changed the rubber bumper to gray on the 90th Anniversary Model.
The other thing I do not like is dealing with customer service. I have complained since the beginning that one of the reasons I bought this was for the scented air cartridges that were not available at first. Aerus finally told me flat out that they were not going to carry the Fragrance cartridges. It also took them months to keep changing the filter bag so it would not leak. It still leaks, but is better and thanks to who I bought mine from, I received a gasket for the bag inlet tube, which should have been on it to start with. This seemed to improve it more. Anyway, I was cleaning out my refrigerator and accidentally dropped a box of baking soda onto my tile floor. I used the Guardian Platinum, before I had the gasket, but after the last improvement to the bags. I changed the bag right after cleaning up the mess and found another mess under the paper bag. Had to replace the hepa filter cartride prematurely..I had to use another vacuum to vacuum the Guardian Platinum (my Lux Legacy) it caught all the baking soda, by the way)..In the box it went and has been there. I will go back to the Lux Legacy before they discontinue the anniversary model. I have always had Electrolux since the 80's, Aerus needs to shape up and develop vacuums like they used to do.......Things went downhill when they sold the Lux name and so many people go into department stores and think they are buying the original. Talk about a double blow to Aerus..... PR-21 |
Post# 292985 , Reply# 34   8/11/2014 at 15:45 (3,517 days old) by DesertTortoise ()   |   | |
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So the Classic and Legacy are pre-Aerus carry over designs or they just look like that? |
Post# 292998 , Reply# 35   8/11/2014 at 16:27 (3,517 days old) by Gr8DaneDad ()   |   | |
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The Classic and Legacy are pre-Aerus... with some tweaks: better motors being the most notable. |
Post# 341087 , Reply# 39   1/10/2016 at 20:14 (2,999 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 341111 , Reply# 40   1/11/2016 at 12:30 (2,999 days old) by s2_82 (Ohio)   |   | |
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Any idea how much the Lux Guardian Upright runs by chance? |
Post# 341125 , Reply# 41   1/11/2016 at 14:41 (2,999 days old) by luxman107 (USA )   |   | |
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Also sent you an email. |
Post# 341208 , Reply# 42   1/12/2016 at 15:32 (2,998 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)   |   | |
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Reading this thread kind of makes me wonder if I aid too high of a price for my aerus classic. I paid around $600 for the 90th anniversary edition, and a new hose, I have all hard floors so did not get the power head or any attachments, I already had plenty of attachments from other vacuums. |
Post# 383438 , Reply# 46   1/2/2018 at 10:06 (2,277 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Get it! It's a great machine! I would say go for something like a Lux Classic. They're a little easier to manage. Same thing with the trade ins at my local Aerus dealer. There are so many broken Dysons. He has a lot of older Luxes too, such as the 1205, L, G, AE, LX and XXX. Most of them still work. He's acquired quite a bit of stuff in the 40 years he's been selling Aerus. I say go for whatever works. My Electrolux Model XXX is turning 70 this year, and it's still going strong!
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Post# 383461 , Reply# 47   1/2/2018 at 17:07 (2,276 days old) by Mike811 (Finland)   |   | |
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I found that in the EU we now have new model called the Lux S115. It looks amazing and I wonder if you guys have it in the US?
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Post# 383510 , Reply# 48   1/3/2018 at 15:02 (2,276 days old) by kenkart ()   |   | |
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Hose and grip much better than anything Aerus has made in years, that clunky plastic grip and wands turns me off, this looks great! |
Post# 383512 , Reply# 49   1/3/2018 at 16:01 (2,276 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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The new Guardian vacuum is really sleek and is the stuff of vacuum collectors wet dreams. That being said.
I personally wouldn't pay over $1,000 for it brand new. I would definitely take a SEBO E3 over that dollar per dollar on the new market. If you're patient you will find one at pawn shop or on eBay for a couple hundred dollars down the line and that's the way I would personally go about it. |
Post# 383514 , Reply# 50   1/3/2018 at 16:35 (2,276 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)   |   | |
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From a dealer on ebay at the end-of-the-month-gotta-move-some-boxes sale for <$500. |
Post# 383528 , Reply# 51   1/4/2018 at 02:03 (2,275 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)   |   | |
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So far to my knowledge, Aerus has not introduced this. It's fine, but I personally like the black/stainless steel design better. I hate white vacuums. I also hate those woven hoses. Aerus needs to let Lux International design some new tools for the U.S. market that are similar to those by Lux International. |
Post# 383771 , Reply# 52   1/7/2018 at 18:28 (2,271 days old) by lux14 (Leawood Kansas)   |   | |
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I LOVE and miss the wooven hoses.......sigh...... |
Post# 383849 , Reply# 54   1/8/2018 at 12:37 (2,271 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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My first Electrolux Marquis came with a woven hose. I did my best not to bend it to much, so as not to break the inside rubber. With that said, it did eventually leak some. I had burgandy carpet in my old two story home with an L shaped stair case. As I came down holding the vacuum in one hand and the sidekick attachement in my other hand, when the hose rubbed against the carpet, I noticed a light dust mark, where it had been.
When I got my Electrolux anniversary last all metal, I hung the hose up on two rubber tipped hooks for preservation, and bought a genuine electric vinyl hose. That hose never leaks......
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Post# 398485 , Reply# 56   9/20/2018 at 13:10 (2,016 days old) by LeonJODIDO (Walnut Creek, CA)   |   | |
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I am new to the forum. I want to ask what city's dealer offers the Lux Guardian Platinum the lowest price? I can fly there and buy it and still be cheaper than the 2,700 they ask here in Walnut Creek, CA. Could any member mention what price they paid for their Lux Guardian Platinum? |
Post# 398581 , Reply# 58   9/22/2018 at 10:06 (2,014 days old) by Rivstg1 (colorado springs)   |   | |
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Interesting questions and I"m looking forward to reading people's responses. The fluctuating' prices of those types of machines would NOT deter me from buying one if I was in the market for them. Some people enjoy the bargaining/negotiating process .....whole cultures do this as a matter of fact ( think many in the Orient, Indian, and middle eastern). I would feel cheated if I paid 300-800 more for the same item though as someone else. I applaud and congradulate those who do have the patience and tenacity to get a better price on anything though. I would strive to be more clever to get a price I'm more comfortable with.
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Post# 398588 , Reply# 59   9/22/2018 at 10:47 (2,014 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)   |   | |
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The only vacuum that I've bought new recently, is the Hoover PortaPower that I bought from Amazon.
So, different situation. I personally don't like to have to negotiate about pricing on anything. It's probably the thing that I hate most about buying a vehicle, for example. I despise the whole game of the salesman repeatedly going back to confer with his boss about your offer. I know some people don't mind it, and some may actually enjoy it. I'm not one of them. In fact, when we were first married, we actually brought my father-in-law with us when we went to buy a vehicle. He's one who doesn't mind the game, and we probably got the vehicle a little cheaper than we would have if he hadn't been there. To sum it up, I personally don't like to have to haggle, and it does seem somewhat unfair to people who aren't good at it. Barry |
Post# 398600 , Reply# 63   9/22/2018 at 13:46 (2,014 days old) by completenutt (West Hollywood, California)   |   | |
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I wonder why they don't just amortize the cost over 15 years versus the cost of a new vac and it's projected lifespan to show real value to a prospective customer. That would be a more palatable approach to entice people to enjoy a better product longer!
I also wonder what the original Electrolux would have thought of this bait and upgrade method for their original concept of creating a better machine and promoting it as such, versus their customers anticipating a confrontational bartering experience while purchasing. I don't think they'd like that very much.
I think the main reason it's a harder sell now a days is because it was originally marketed toward women, as we all know - a thankfully bygone era - and the man of the house would want to get his wife a good appliance to enjoy using. Well, it's just not that way anymore. Women work as much as men, and they are not allocated one or two good tools/machines (dishwasher, washer/dryer, vacuum) to ease their burden.. so the "sell" of that amortized theory would have to apply now to a general feeling of value, which a much smaller percentage of the population really thinks about. So, it may then just be marketed to those who want the best of whatever category it is.. in this case the Guradian Platinum model, and hopefully those people have less time or care less to barter and will buy an overpriced item. Same thing happened to a colleague of mine who literally got a home visit by a Kirby dealer and bought it for over $2000.00. He's a millionaire and was sold on the exclusivity of ownership, and less so on the quality, and it hardly put a dent in his pocket for that price!
Finally, for those people who have 2 income household, there is usually a housekeeper involved who either brings their (notice I didn't say "her"!) own vacuum. Also the housekeeper or cleaning crew would have less pull on their employers to purchase an expensive piece of equipment if the majority of home/apartment dwellers wouldn't be using or enjoying it themselves. So it's a dilemma.
@Barry, I just bought a Porta Power for my handyman as well just last week. What a co-inkydink! I recommend to get the paper bags, Hoover Type N, but you have to get the plastic adapter as well! Also, they offer a matching carrying case that really upgrades the entire experience of using the machine! |
Post# 398601 , Reply# 64   9/22/2018 at 14:32 (2,014 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)   |   | |
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Oh, as usual, when I bought the PortaPower, I went all in.
I ordered the PortaPack (the carrying case/bag) I got the adapter for disposable bags, along with a bunch of bags. After all that, I haven't even unboxed any of it yet! One thing that I wonder about: The reusable bag has a rubber seal around the opening, which seals against the inside of the door. The adapter has no such seal. I'm trying to think of something that I can add to it to create a better seal. Barry |
Post# 410583 , Reply# 66   6/17/2019 at 03:24 (1,746 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 411035 , Reply# 67   6/29/2019 at 22:41 (1,733 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)   |   | |
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Post# 438849 , Reply# 70   2/17/2021 at 05:16 (1,135 days old) by compuvac ( )   |   | |
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I know a friend who's parents had one since 2009/2010 and used it heavily until it broke. Then they gave it to me for free. Unfortunately it was so far gone that i had to scrap it for parts.
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Post# 438850 , Reply# 71   2/17/2021 at 05:21 (1,135 days old) by compuvac ( )   |   | |
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Post# 438851 , Reply# 72   2/17/2021 at 07:34 (1,135 days old) by compuvac ( )   |   | |
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Post# 441441 , Reply# 74   5/3/2021 at 22:31 (1,059 days old) by Gabowenjr (tampa fl)   |   | |
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Hello, the guardian platinum has been discontinued. A new model will coming shortly. |
Post# 441469 , Reply# 75   5/4/2021 at 17:20 (1,059 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)   |   | |
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Totally discontinued??? Wow, that's quite a statement. Here's to hoping it's not another regressive machine like the Guardian Ultra was. |
Post# 441503 , Reply# 78   5/5/2021 at 12:34 (1,058 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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My Guardian Platinum is 7 years old now, with its original circuit board. The only thing I've done is replaced the Power Nozzle motor, belt, and brush with the new motor that takes a serpentine belt, the serpentine belt, and the brush roll that accepts the serpentine belt. My Power Nozzle is now almost silent as it runs. Nationwide Sales and Service out of New York sells those parts.
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Post# 441513 , Reply# 79   5/6/2021 at 03:51 (1,057 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)   |   | |
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Aerus doesn't make these machines. They are brought over from Europe. I guess that means the new machine in white is coming. Sounds like another disappointment. |
Post# 441514 , Reply# 80   5/6/2021 at 06:29 (1,057 days old) by compuvac ( )   |   | |
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"Sounds like another disappointment." Yes.
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Post# 441526 , Reply# 81   5/6/2021 at 14:41 (1,057 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)   |   | |
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LOL... I absolutely DESPISE white vacuums. They look good for a while, but they eventually grow progressively uglier. Besides that, it's exactly like the last model. Just a different color and minor changes. No difference at all. |
Post# 441640 , Reply# 82   5/9/2021 at 17:36 (1,054 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 441693 , Reply# 84   5/11/2021 at 06:17 (1,052 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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Both Kirby and 'Lux stick with tried and proven designs that WORK!!No use changing something that has WORKED for all this time.Same with Rainbow,TriStar,and Filter Queen.The Aerus dealer in Greenville mentioned that Aerus was going to get into bedding. |
Post# 441716 , Reply# 85   5/11/2021 at 16:24 (1,052 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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I agree, I wouldn't want anyone else to fall into the same mistake that Speed Queen did a few years ago with their washing machines. When they ditched their old and tried washing machines with their "Next Generation" models, that costed Speed Queen ALOT of controversy. Their new washers are not as good as their old ones, in fact they were not well received so much that they HAD to reintroduce another old school model that lots of people would expect to get from a washer.
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Post# 441726 , Reply# 87   5/11/2021 at 22:37 (1,051 days old) by funeraldirector (Boston)   |   | |
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Hi, If you look at the Sauber Excellence on Ebay Australia they are now available with a brushless motor I am guessing this might be what arrives here next. Brian |
Post# 441732 , Reply# 88   5/12/2021 at 10:18 (1,051 days old) by Mike811 (Finland)   |   | |
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I feel like the European Lux has gone downhill when they stopped making vacuums in Sweden.
I have early 90's Swedish Lux Royal D790 and no problems at all. Owner before me saved it from huge abuse and just cleaned it. Still works to this day despite having circuit board for automatic motor speed control. Hose is only thing what is not original.
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Post# 450712 , Reply# 91   3/12/2022 at 18:15 (746 days old) by beagledad (Florida)   |   | |
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Just bring back the Guardian Ultra with an option of the classic or Legacy style hose and attachments and call it a day. I'd say bring back the Ultralux but modern machines need HEPA filtration. |
Post# 450722 , Reply# 92   3/13/2022 at 19:36 (745 days old) by Jo (Dallas,TX)   |   | |
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The Guardian Ultra was not sealed. Poor design exhaust air came out the cord hole and around the back cover. Even an Aerus salesman said it was a nice looking machine but poor design….they’d have to beef that up. Jon |
Post# 450735 , Reply# 93   3/14/2022 at 01:37 (745 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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I have a hard time believing that the canisters have since been discontinued. Aerus just recently changed the body color on the Guardian Platinum and I've noticed that independent vacuum stores are now carrying Aerus vacuums including the Lux Legacy. I guess we'll know when Aerus updates their website again like when I noticed that they took away the Guardian upright and their own commercial upright. But I wouldn't be surprised if they do change their canister line up, I think Aerus is struggling to keep up with the vacuum market nowadays. They would reduce cost and do whatever they could to stay in the vacuum business. Lets face it, more and more consumers are buying vacuums from department stores and/or online than going over to a vacuum shop or even buy from door-to-door. Since Aerus's 100th anniversary is coming up soon, I would have a feeling that they may conclude making or even sell anymore vacuums at the mark. Hate to say it but that may possibly be the case in the vacuum world that we got going on today.
If both the Guardian Platinum and the Lux Legacy have been discontinued already but the Lux Classic would remain on the market, this is what I think Aerus is doing. They've probably also already discontinued the Lux Classic that they've made themselves but they probably now have the same company that makes the Lux Heavy Duty upright also make the canister for Aerus. You know that Perfect C103 or the Clean Obsessed CO888 that's basically a copy of the Lux Classic? I would bet that Aerus contracted them to make the Lux Classic for them. And it would make total sense to me as well. It's cheaper than having to ship the tooling and equipment out to China to make the Lux Classic while you can have someone make a copy for you that's already got what they need to make the Lux Classic. I would also bet that Aerus would have them make the central vac kit for the Centralux since they already make a central vac kit that's also a copy of a Lux central vac kit basically. Though I don't know what they would do with their Lux Floor Pro shampooer. Of course their Lite uprights are made by Tacony, not sure how much longer those would remain for. I think probably the only product that Aerus could stick around with is their Centralux unit. It's already made out in China, they're not that too expensive to build, it's their most powerful model that Aerus sells today, and it's bagless which consumers would most likely want. Anyways, that's what I think. |
Post# 450738 , Reply# 94   3/14/2022 at 06:27 (745 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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Lux should also offer a bagged version of the Centralux or a hybrid model that can be used with a bag or without.There are still customers out there that DO NOT want a messy,bagless central vacuum. |
Post# 450746 , Reply# 95   3/14/2022 at 14:00 (745 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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I doubt they would ever sell a bagged or even a hybrid central vac unit, at least not anytime soon I would think. I bet they don't have the cash or the time to even make one. Their best option would be to contract someone to make a bagged or a hybrid unit for Aerus, but I think they would have to first discontinue the actual Centralux unit in order to do that. Or maybe they already did, who knows. They actually used to have someone make the Condolux for them but not anymore, it was basically a Bissell Garage Pro unit.
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Post# 450809 , Reply# 97   3/16/2022 at 16:50 (743 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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I honestly wouldn't mind dealing with a Centralux myself if I would be crazy enough to own one which might happen someday, who knows. Afterall I've used and serviced a Centralux before so I would already know of what I'd be up against. And I do love servicing vacuums too. With a Centralux and aftermarket filters (I'm not a huge fan of the blue genuine filters), I'd save on not having to buy as many replacement bags, especially if I would put in brand new carpet. You'd pick up alot of carpet fiber and go through a ton of disposable bags. Plus I could empty mine out and washer the filter at anytime I would want to. And if I accidently sucked something up by accident like jewelry for example, I can easily look through and retrieve it without having to empty the bin out completely. If well taken care of, it could last longer than you'd think. Probably empty the bin out and wash the filter every time you vacuum.
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Post# 450885 , Reply# 98   3/19/2022 at 01:03 (740 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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"empty the ban-wash the filter after use"WHAT A HASSLE-NOT me!!!A typical central vac bag lasts 6mo to a year.The cost is so minimal! |
Post# 450903 , Reply# 99   3/19/2022 at 16:39 (740 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Every home is different. Some would fill the bag up almost every use. In fact, I installed a Allegro unit at my aunt's brand new home. She went with bagless even though it can use bags. Everytime that I would vacuum her home, the bin is almost full. The place gets more dirtier than I thought it would be.
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Post# 451095 , Reply# 101   3/27/2022 at 02:48 (732 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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If it's true that the Lux Classic is now being made overseas, then why haven't they took the American flag off of the Lux Classic from the website? I know it was on the Lux Heavy Duty upright for a short while until they took it down. Maybe they haven't yet but they mean to, I'm not sure.
But I do have to respectively disagree with you on one thing, the Perfect or the Clean Obsessed don't appear to be cheaply made over the Lux Classic. Actually they appear to be much better machines than the Lux Classic in my honest opinion since I have used all of them before. Same with the Lux Heavy Duty upright which is the same thing as the Perfect DM101, I like those better than the Lux's own commercial upright. I still really like the Lux Classic, no doubt about it. But I would MUCH rather have the Perfect or the Clean Obsessed instead. Regarding the Guardian Platinum, either they went with white because it was cheaper to make. Or the company that makes the Guardian Platinum was no longer making black body parts on the canister unit. There could be a ton of other possibilities. |
Post# 451124 , Reply# 103   3/27/2022 at 23:31 (731 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Did you by chance happen to take a picture of that hose you were using? You must've had a different hose because those Perfect or Clean Obsessed hoses should work with the Sidekick. They are identical to the Aerus hoses. Yes the attachments are generic but so are some of the attachments on the Lux Classic as well.
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