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Post# 224100   3/18/2013 at 09:19 (4,028 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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This the continuation of Thread Number 19290 as the original thread is getting quite long.

And happy thread 20,000 Vacuumland!


Post# 224103 , Reply# 1   3/18/2013 at 09:21 (4,028 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
Robert ...

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... what's that you're holding??

Post# 224106 , Reply# 2   3/18/2013 at 09:38 (4,028 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hey Matt, the answer lies in this thread...
Through the Looking Glass


Post# 224108 , Reply# 3   3/18/2013 at 09:41 (4,028 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
ooooohhhhhhh!!!

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Very cool!

Post# 224111 , Reply# 4   3/18/2013 at 10:01 (4,028 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Pretty cool

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Robert thank you so do I get a prize for the longest thread ever ?

This new Aerus has sparked a lot of interest I cant wait until they
release the new upright .

Dan


Post# 224116 , Reply# 5   3/18/2013 at 10:11 (4,028 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

I knew it was gonna happen soon! To be continued... I love this vacuum and I can't wait until I can buy one. I intend to make a video showing all parts and me cleaning the house with it. Would that interest anyone? It'll be a while though. Can you imagine what the future holds for this machine? What improvements will come with the new power nozzle, etc.? I also think the sales is a surprise to Aerus, and they might start manufacture at Bristol. I don't think they expected it to take off like this.

Post# 224121 , Reply# 6   3/18/2013 at 10:48 (4,028 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
My Local

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Aerus guy says this machine is taking off he has people calling him for demo/sales
I was the very first to purchase mine from him he had just picked them up the day I called him for mine and he was shocked I knew about it .

It is going to be built in Virginia very soon mostly because of the Euro exchange rate but also they want to build it here to keep with the made in USA that Aerus is known for .

I am looking forward to the new power nozzle and will be buying it once it is released if not just buy another Platinum .

Dan


Post# 224130 , Reply# 7   3/18/2013 at 11:22 (4,028 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Robert thank you so do I get a prize for the longest thread ever?

Totally Dan! I'll have to come up with something. ***puts thinking cap on***


Post# 224149 , Reply# 8   3/18/2013 at 13:11 (4,028 days old) by GM1982 ()        

One of the most active threads... cool... cant wait to see what the new upright is about- someone here has to know something by now.

Post# 224162 , Reply# 9   3/18/2013 at 15:03 (4,028 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Hi Dan, my local aerus guy sails the same thing.. Sales are so far ahead of what they projected...it truly is a great machine. Wish we could keep the other thread active so it doesn't disappear.. There is a lot of good info on it that would refer back to

Post# 224163 , Reply# 10   3/18/2013 at 15:06 (4,028 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

I am sorry. Having iPad problems again... That is suppose to be, my Aerus guy says the same thing. Sales are far ahead of what they projected.

Post# 224164 , Reply# 11   3/18/2013 at 15:12 (4,028 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Mike the other

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Thread will still be available to look up it doesn't get removed it was just a tad too long lol .
Yeah my Lux guy said its a bigger hot then any one thought , that's because they finally brought a
Competition beater finally . Look out world Aerus is back with a vengeance 😄
Dan


Post# 224169 , Reply# 12   3/18/2013 at 15:52 (4,028 days old) by cc (louisiana)        
If

The upright can generate this much interest- wow - They really will be back on the map! Thanks for all the good info Dan, keep it coming.

Post# 224187 , Reply# 13   3/18/2013 at 19:06 (4,028 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
I can't

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Wait for the upright and will purchase one as soon as it is released . April is almost here besides waiting for the 100th anniversary Kirby Avilir this new
Aerus upright is just as exciting in my book .

Brian ,

Any news yet on the upright or new Platinum Power Nozzle ?

Dan 😄


Post# 224188 , Reply# 14   3/18/2013 at 19:39 (4,028 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Does the platinums that come out now have the new board that turns the PN off when you turn the main machine off ?

Post# 224191 , Reply# 15   3/18/2013 at 19:56 (4,028 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Yes

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Mike they fixed it about two months ago and trust me it will be fixed on our machines .
I am going to try to call Aerus tomorrow between showing houses and find out when
they will have a fix for our machines .

They will fix this problem as they ALWAYS stand behind their products .

Dan


Post# 224194 , Reply# 16   3/18/2013 at 20:27 (4,028 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Thanks Dan. Not worried at all about them standing behind their products.. They always have before.

Post# 224219 , Reply# 17   3/19/2013 at 00:16 (4,028 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

We are witnessing this generations' Renaissance. I remember when the Ren was released although I was still a kid and not quite aware of the internals of a vacuum. I experienced a Ren in an Electrolux store. I thought it's suction was incredible at the time. The Ren was easily the most advanced machine on the market during it's (admittedly brief) time. It's a shame they couldn't continue on with that amount of high tech features. The Platinum is now a technological marvel of it's own. And Aerus and Lux have patented the double HEPA technology so it cannot be copied for 20 years. Electrolux's proprietary automatic shut off technology still has not been copied, even after 50 some years. We are talking about Aerus being "back" but they never really left. I roundly criticized Aerus for steadily stripping the high end features from thier machines with each successive model after the Renaissance. However, the Ultra was not an obsolete vacuum. It was a comedown from the previous few models, but it wasn't a "bad" vacuum. The Platinum has generated excitement, which is great for Aerus. It's exciting for those of us who stood by Aerus during it's name change debacle.

Post# 224221 , Reply# 18   3/19/2013 at 00:45 (4,028 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        
Lux Epic 6500SR vs. TriStar A101 wand compatibility & compar

Why did Aerus/Electrolux change the wand style again when the Guardian Ultra came out? What's wrong with the Epic 6500SR style wands; & why didn't TriStar use the Epic 6500SR style wands instead of the Lux Guardian Ultra/TriStar A101 style?

That's the ONLY thing I dislike about a TriStar EXL & Electrolux Epic 6500 is the tools & wands aren't interchangeable. However, I still think both vacuums are great; & really like the integrated electrified wands from the Lux Epic 6500SR (current Legacy) & TriStar A101.

Has Aerus/Lux thought about making the PN housing out of die-cast aluminum like the TriStar A101 (CS)?


Post# 224242 , Reply# 19   3/19/2013 at 08:06 (4,027 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )        

Dan, please let us know what type of feedback you get from your contacts on fixing/upgrading the power nozzle on/off issue. Thx

Post# 224246 , Reply# 20   3/19/2013 at 09:12 (4,027 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Christopher

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you are so right they never really left its just that this Platinum is the modern day Renny . I didn`t like my Ultra`s until I forgot about the bag and when it was time to change it WOW it was packed and weighed a ton that changed my mind and not once did the suction diminish .I have loved Aerus for years and have purchased over 100 for friends and family members. My favorite vacuum is Kirby but I consider it a vacuum that I and Vacuum collectors love and a select few but my second favorite is Aerus which is the machine I feel is the BEST machine for everyone that's why I purchase them for everyone . I have purchased a Kirby for my mom and sister and they both didn't like the bulky heavy Kirby`s .

Curtis ,
as soon as I call them I will let everyone know .

Dan


Post# 224406 , Reply# 21   3/20/2013 at 11:07 (4,026 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
Bag Full/Auto Shutoff??

Dan, is this setting controllable by the user or is it a fixed setting?

Also, do you suppose it's worth waiting to find one with the P/N fix already installed? I'm doubtful about the availability of the most current inventory in my area. At one time Houston had 4 dealers and that has dwindled down to one. Hard to believe in a town that size! I'm going to look at one tomorrow just so I can see for myself.



Post# 224409 , Reply# 22   3/20/2013 at 11:36 (4,026 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
John

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it is a fixed setting .

It`s up to you if you want to wait also they are redesigning the power nozzle so you might want to wait for that also .

Good luck you will love this vacuum as I and many members here do .

Dan


Post# 224416 , Reply# 23   3/20/2013 at 12:10 (4,026 days old) by funeraldirector (Boston)        
NO WORD YET

Hi Dan,


Everyone up here says they know nothing as far as actual details about the new upright and power nozzle updates that are forthcoming. I would like to see the new nozzle and the software update along with a return to the Silverado Deluxe metal wand with additional wands for the combo rug. Made in Bristol, Va would be nice too. I ABSOLUTELY HATE these reverse fit Wal-Mart wands and have made this more than clear to the president of Lux and the chief engineer. Poor quality and lack of creativity and engineering prowess I believe is how I described it. I am hearing there are some new water systems for next month though, I do wish these guys spent more time fixing the vacuum/bag business and less time on a product line that almost sank them in the late Consolidated Foods era. Some just never learn! As soon as I know what is up I will let you guys know. On a side note I also heard Electric Sweeper was doing training seminars at some Lux USA franchises and that they are now outsourcing even more responsibilities.


Brian


Post# 224467 , Reply# 24   3/20/2013 at 18:49 (4,026 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Thanks Brian

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I hear ya lol . I hope the upright arrives soon as well as the new PN .
I cant wait to see what news you find out and if I hear anything I will let everyone know .

Dan


Post# 224470 , Reply# 25   3/20/2013 at 19:04 (4,026 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
Brian....

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How does the aroma chamber on the exhaust work. Does Aerus sell the Aroma Therpy to go in it or do you just use a cotton ball with Essential Oils?

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

Bud PR-21


Post# 224492 , Reply# 26   3/20/2013 at 22:31 (4,026 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

I would also like to know about the aroma cup. I guess it would be best to ask an Aerus salesman. I don't understand the total hostility some feel about the wand system. I like the direct connect locking feature of them and the fact you can use all electric and non-electric tools on them. Some kind of a sliding feature would help so you can fold it down for storage. I never found them "bulky" or difficult to use. I like the handle too. Somehow I don't think they will abandon this style of wand due to the fact you can use the Sidekick and the power nozzle on both wands. By the way, what is Electric Sweeper? And who is doing more outsourcing? Do you mean Aerus is outsourcing?

Post# 224800 , Reply# 27   3/23/2013 at 10:36 (4,023 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
My

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new bags are not leaking like the ones that came with the vacuum .

I also don`t mind the wands as I am use to them .

So far Areus has nothing for the aroma cap . I still have to call about the circuit board PN issue .

Dan


Post# 224830 , Reply# 28   3/23/2013 at 13:50 (4,023 days old) by funeraldirector (Boston)        
A Few Things Lux

I had an opportunity to see two of the new Lux water conditioning units yesterday. Very nice quality units. They are also to be introduced this coming month. The Sauber About Us section of their website says there are more new Sensitive Choice vacuums coming soon as well as central units too. I am thinking Lux USA and AG are more in bed together than we originally thought. Aerus is manufacturing the FloorPro/B100 for Lux International and it is currently being sold in South America. It can be seen on the Lux Equador website. I saw one of the newer nozzles for the Platinum as well but not the rumored new one. They have changed the cover color to blue-black and it does not look right with the wands and elbow. I prefer the one that is Tristar black with the aluminum decal like Mike, Dan and I have. They are also having issues with the contacts (contact block) in the push/pull hose connector that short circuits the main board in the unit requiring total disassembly and replacement. The replacement process is said to be the most fun you can have with your clothes on. A modern Renne with an Oxygen-type build setup. Using the Silverado-style hose connector would have avoided this nonsense in the first place. They are changing the hose and always stand behind their product. I love mine nontheless.

Electromatic,

I am not sure I would call my feelings hostile toward the Tristar wands. They work well, are easy to repair and extremely light. The problem for me is they don't belong on a $2700.00 vacuum when every other machine on the market comes with nice metal or telescoping wands. It is another example of Lux ramming something that is easy for the them to manufacture (read that to mean cheap manufacturing costs) along with cheap cords (Unicable), Chinese power nozzle motors (JEI) and Chinese armature bearings down the everyone's throat and it has been this way for years. Maybe we could paint the machines green and yellow and call them John Deere since they operate the same way. The new tractor I am looking at for $18K has more chinese parts on it than my last Chinese girlfriend. Two of my favorite companies Bang and Olufsen and Rolex have remained true to their values and for the price they command. It's about time Aerus Lux did the same. I am very fussy about engineering and build quality, especially when my income was directly related to it for so many years.



Dan,

Rainbow guy said today they have introduced another power nozzle with a lux-style side driven gear belt. Do you have it or have you seen it? I am thinking about buying a new E-series.

Brian


Post# 224835 , Reply# 29   3/23/2013 at 15:05 (4,023 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Brian

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Wow that PN doesn't sound right with a color that doesn't match ?

I am going to call my Rainbow guy and find out about the new PN and am gonna have to buy it so I will let you guys know and post it as soon as I get it .

Thanks for the updates Brian I hope they get this platinum fixed I love mine its an awesome vacuum .

Dan


Post# 224846 , Reply# 30   3/23/2013 at 16:06 (4,023 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Will the newer platinum machines come automatically with the new PN.? Not sure if I like the idea of an unmatching color either.

Post# 224847 , Reply# 31   3/23/2013 at 16:09 (4,023 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Do any of you hi tech guys know how to add a link on this thread to the original thread Dan started. ?

Post# 224855 , Reply# 32   3/23/2013 at 16:53 (4,023 days old) by funeraldirector (Boston)        
P/N Cover

Mike,


The newer cover looks like it is similar to the side runners of the canister itself. Kinda the inky-navy black and it sticks out like a sore thumb next to the wands, elbow and power nozzle rubbers. I would not want one for sure. If you see the Aerus video corporate released you can see the color is off. Up close and personal I didn't care for it at all. They had similar issues with the blacks on the 1521's when they made the black and chrome units for the salesmen when they ceased metal production in 1992. I heard the cover is shipping now and also parts and supplies are extremely difficult to get eg. hoses, swissaroma scents and additional wands.


Brian


Post# 224860 , Reply# 33   3/23/2013 at 17:35 (4,023 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Mike

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Robert has it at the top of the page just click on the blue link .

Dan


Post# 224899 , Reply# 34   3/23/2013 at 20:07 (4,023 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Thanks Brian and Dan

Post# 224901 , Reply# 35   3/23/2013 at 20:11 (4,023 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

I got two additional wands from tristar that are exactly the same as the platinum wands. My local guy got me and extra combo dust tool and adapter. I am sure they will catch up on the parts backlog soon.

Post# 224930 , Reply# 36   3/24/2013 at 02:47 (4,022 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
Thanks funeraldirector:

I love your in depth corporate updates about what's happening on the ground. I am sorry to hear that about the push/pull technology. I hope that can be worked out because I thought it was handy. Technological advancement sometimes comes with setbacks. It is trial and error. I agree that metal wands look better. I too like the telescopic system but electrified telescopic wands have proven so problematic for the other companies. It seems they are in the shop for repairs at high rates. Also, I don't know of any telescopic system that will allow you to use an electric mininozzle and power nozzle on the wands AND the handle. Most telescopic wand equipped vacuums use an air driven tool which I hate. Rainbow has a similar setup but with metal wands, so Aerus isn't the only ones not using a telescopic wand. I guess we are nitpicky and want a perfect vacuum but there is no perfect vacuum (lol). I regret to hear all these problems again. It sounds like another Renaissance and we know how they reacted last time. They began stripping features until we all thought they were a goner. For once I wish they would work it out ant stick with it. None of these bugs sound insurmountable compared to the automatic shut off/ejection system. If they made THAT work surely they could get a hose port to work.

Post# 224959 , Reply# 37   3/24/2013 at 09:20 (4,022 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

My legacy that is now used up in our north Ga mountain cabin is over ten years old. Never had a problem with the wands..

Interesting information Brian on the push pull. So far no prooblem with mine but is that something they will change on the current machines if the problem develops. Thanks. Love your knowledge on Aerus lux and their products.


Post# 225095 , Reply# 38   3/25/2013 at 14:24 (4,021 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        

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Well, I must say I do like this new Aerus Platinum, & am tempted to buy one. It looks like an awesome cleaner!! Having said that, I am gonna wait a year or two until they resolve the issues they are having....namely the hose contacts, leaky bags, PN cover being offcolor, etc. I agree that this Platinum, although good, is a "lemon" to some degree like the Renny was at first.

As to the issue of bags & filtration, I agree with most here that the HEPA Cloth bags for the Sauber Intelligence would be overkill to bring them here. It already has a HEPA filter before & after the motor, & is a sealed system....how much more do you need?! The only issue now is making sure the bags don't leak so much dust it shortens the life of the pre-motor HEPA filter. As for the paper Home Solutions bags, though, I would like to see some improvements to their bags in general. One thing I have noticed that is a problem with Aerus-Electrolux bags is the blue sealing strip that holds them together in the back. What I have found over the years, whether using the yellow GermGrabber bags, blue Home Solutions bags, or DVC Multi-Filter 4 ply bags, is that there is at least 2 or 3 in a 12-pack of bags where the sealing strip fails & the bag breaks in the back. For this reason, I only use the Perfect or JohnnyVac HEPA Cloth bags in my Luxes with no afterfilter, like my Grand Marquise, or I use the Arm & Hammer "C" bags from WalMart in machines I use paper bags in, as they are folded over & glued in back like conventional bags are made.

As to the bags failing on the Platinum, I have to wonder whether the suction from the Platinum is too strong for the bags, & it is causing the sealing strip to fail prematurely. One way to find this out would be for Perfect Canister owners who use the paper bags to add their input here, seeing the suction is just as strong on them.

Now, I have a question for Funeraldirector....what is up with the pre-motor HEPA filter?? On the YouTube videos I have seen for the Sauber Intelligence, it says this filter is a Washable HEPA filter....yet the Aerus Platinum is suggesting it be replaced, & says every 6 months or whenever the change filter light comes on. So, is it designed to be washed, dried & replaced in the cleaner, or is it a disposable HEPA filter? And WHY would they not make it a Washable HEPA filter for the North American market if they already have a disposable Sealed True HEPA filter in the back? Seems a bit overkill to have TWO disposable HEPA filters in one vacuum.

Rob


Post# 225102 , Reply# 39   3/25/2013 at 16:06 (4,021 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

I am going to wait a bit later to buy the Platinum until they have the revised units available.

 

To those who waited a while for buying the Platinum; did Aerus/Lux put the gasket on the bag fill tube yet or do they still forget to put on the bag tube gasket?




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Post# 225108 , Reply# 40   3/25/2013 at 17:21 (4,021 days old) by funeraldirector (Boston)        
Washable HEPA

Hey Rob,

I too noticed that in the Sauber videos about the washable pre-motor filter. I was looking around to see if I saved the one Lux replaced so I could give it a bath and see how it fared. I will definitely try it and see what happens. I think the pre and post filter design is superb even if only for the sole purpose of protecting the motor and fan assembly and final exhaust emissions. The final filter is specifically for the carbon brush dust which is said to be carcinogenic in any vacuum cleaner exhaust. If you notice they also talk about 5 levels of filtration vs 4 on the Platinum so I wonder if the post motor filter is a different part number than ours or actually the same mediclean in the Aerus Platinum. The Sauber site says more new vacuums soon so I am wondering what else is coming down the road.

As for the newest of the new Platinum bags I think these do a good job at an excellent price point. Those of us who used Lux Iota exclusively will never be satisfied with any of the current bags from any manufacturer OEM or otherwise. The Iota bags filtered to .1 microns and were spun-woven poly construction and probably the best vacuum cleaner bag ever made. I am told putting a Miele style bag over the Lux "P" bag greatly reduces the amount of fine dust on the filter for those who are having some issues. I think I suggested this in an earlier post in the original discussion.

At the same time I am not sure how widespread the hose block issue is and heard this from just one tech. I have had no issues and would not let this stop me from buying this machine. Overall it is an affordable machine to use that is convenient and delivers mind-blowing performance in a whisper quiet package. Those of us who worked for Lux or are collectors are generally way more fussy than Mrs. Jones will ever be. My dislike for the Tristar wand system is minor and they too deliver excellent performance in a durable, lightweight design that is easy to repair and arguably more reliable than the problematic telescoping wands on other brands I seem to generally prefer. At least the hose, wands and attachments are still American made.

Brian


Post# 225149 , Reply# 41   3/26/2013 at 01:19 (4,021 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
Regarding 5 levels of filtration...

According to the Lux Intelligence website, the 5 levels are 1) the bag, 2) the prefilter, 3) the carbon layer, 4) the afterfilter, and 5) antibacterial treatment on the afterfilter. It seems to me it's mostly marketing term. The filters look identical on the Aerus machine. Aerus doesn't mention an antibacterial treatment on the afterfilter so maybe they haven't treated it with it. My guess is since the blue bags have the antibacterial treatment in it they chose to forego that step. The Lux Intelligence site makes no mention of washable filter. It says clearly the prefilter should be changed when the light comes on or after 1 year.

On a side note about "HEPA" bags. In order to meet the Dept. of Energy requirement it must have 40 feet of filtering media compressed accordian style. There is no such this as "HEPA" cloth. The manufacturers can claim HEPA due to the total lack of regulation. Most claims of HEPA filtering are fraudulent.


Post# 225162 , Reply# 42   3/26/2013 at 08:00 (4,020 days old) by cc (louisiana)        
2 hepa

I must say that the dual Hepa's on the Platinum manage to create a very clean machine. I have severe allergies and even with other TOL machines have flare ups while vacuuming. I do not with the Aerus. The filter is not washable on the Platinum, I examined it closely and a few shots of air from a compressor will clean out any dust to prolong life - but no water. After using the new bags Aerus sent me I took the new Hepa I had installed and used the air compressor to try and clean - there was only a spec or two of dust, compared to quite a bit of dust when I used the bag that came with the vacuum. So, hopefully Home Solutions has handled their goof. I have been putting my platinum through it's paces pretty regularly and have not noticed any problems, and yes I am particular lol. I have been using the auto mode more often and find it to work satisfactory. Two filters may seem like overkill to some, but I will gladly replace an extra filter every now and then to achieve a superior level of filtration. Again, I only use high end vacs, and this is my only one that has no negative effect on my allergies. Just an update on my experiences with the new Platinum.

Post# 225184 , Reply# 43   3/26/2013 at 13:15 (4,020 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Great update Cliff. I also like the auto mode especially with above the floor cleaning. Floors especially the carpet I use max.

Post# 225188 , Reply# 44   3/26/2013 at 13:22 (4,020 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Great update Cliff. I also like the auto mode especially with above the floor cleaning. Floors especially the carpet I use max.

Post# 225194 , Reply# 45   3/26/2013 at 14:11 (4,020 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Wow, it doesn't affect your allergies at all? That's a true praise for a vacuum. With word of mouth spreading good news like that it will help it's sales for sure. Rifleman Ray on youtube owns an Aerus store in Richmond, Va. and he says he's selling them like crazy and people are raving about it.

Post# 225195 , Reply# 46   3/26/2013 at 14:18 (4,020 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Chris. I have bad dust and pollin allergies also. No problem at all when using my platinum. My old legacy I use at our cabin does a decent job too ..
Actually what has helped a lot is I got a second lux platinum air for the bedroom and since getting the second for the bedroom, never wake up with a stuffed up head


Post# 225202 , Reply# 47   3/26/2013 at 14:51 (4,020 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

I too have allergies and a cat. I use Flonase to keep from being stuffed. I love what I hear about it. It really seems like they have mastered filtration and maybe beaten Miele at it. LOL

Post# 225204 , Reply# 48   3/26/2013 at 14:56 (4,020 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Incidently, you guys won't believe what I read on the Sauber youtube page. Somebody was criticizing the Sauber (same as Platinum) by saying it looked like it was from the 80's and that Dyson was better looking because it looked like it was made in this century! Can you believe that??? Talk about an inability to see taste. LOL

Post# 225229 , Reply# 49   3/26/2013 at 20:16 (4,020 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Same here

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guys I noticed a decrease in dust in my home its like I am using my Rainbow E Series Onyx as that was the only machine I could use before my Aerus Platinum and have so much less dust .

Its my busy season in Real Estate and I don't have time to use my Rainbow right now until the end of summer if things slow down which I don't see that happening yay more new high end vacuum and Car money :)

Dan


Post# 225230 , Reply# 50   3/26/2013 at 20:23 (4,020 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
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I only use automatic mode for every thing just set it and forget it :)

Dan


Post# 225577 , Reply# 51   3/29/2013 at 17:48 (4,017 days old) by funeraldirector (Boston)        
Latest News

Hey Guys,

I have heard a couple different things this past week. The first is that the new upright will be that ink black color of the same variety as the one on the Lux Platinum power nozzle cover shipping now. It is rumored to be a new animal in cosmetic appeal only, running the same design/power plant as the current Guardian. I have not heard anything in regards to the colors on the Floorpro or existing units currently manufactured in Bristol, VA.

The second is that this issue with the bags will again be revisited and perhaps some of us might be more satisfied with the end result. This is rumor mind you.

There is said to be a major push on water purification and we will just have to wait and see I guess.

Brian


Post# 225590 , Reply# 52   3/29/2013 at 18:32 (4,017 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Is this the newest style PN here?  It looks like Lux went back to making the PN more "square" like the early Epic 6500SR instead of "rounded" like the current Legacy.


Post# 225601 , Reply# 53   3/29/2013 at 19:33 (4,017 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Thanks Brian

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again for the news .

Well the upright has been a great seller for them because it`s simple and it works . I will buy one because I like the Upright to match my canister :)

The bags will be fixed is what I hear so time will tell .

Dan


Post# 225611 , Reply# 54   3/29/2013 at 21:09 (4,017 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Thanks Brian. Any word on the fix for the power nozzle on off switch ? Thanks

Post# 225615 , Reply# 55   3/29/2013 at 21:22 (4,017 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Hopefully the Platinum I buy has this style PN

 

Or would the PN look more like this one?

 

I wonder which one looks better of the two styles?

 


Post# 225628 , Reply# 56   3/29/2013 at 23:08 (4,017 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

What was the reason lux switched the power nozzle on the platinum. ?

Post# 225685 , Reply# 57   3/30/2013 at 10:41 (4,016 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Well that's certainly disappointing news isn't it? I guess it was too much to expect a complete vacuum overhaul when they are clearly focusing on air and water filtration. I see no reason to call the upright a Platinum if they aren't incorporating the double HEPA filtration system into it. They also need to remove that boxy add on filter on the side. All of these machines would look better with that smooth black shiny finish but I guess they would scratch easily with it. I'm just glad the Platinum is here because I want a canister.


Post# 225688 , Reply# 58   3/30/2013 at 11:13 (4,016 days old) by GM1982 ()        

hmmmm... I would have to see the new upright and hope they will modify it a little, sealed HEPA filtration, loose the boxy add on HEPA side filter and add direct connect electric hose. If they keep the same unit and just change the color to match the platinum canister, then that's seriously pathetic. I think they are looking towards water and air filtration for growth strategy. But if they do not update the new upright with better features, then I would look towards Riccar and Miele in the upright category... definitely better in many aspects, (filtration, on board tools, hose length, metal bottom plate, fit and finish) sidekick aside!

Post# 225764 , Reply# 59   3/31/2013 at 00:46 (4,016 days old) by Vacshroom ()        
Owner of Sauber

Thought I might post here to give you guys a quick review of mine.

I bought a Sauber Intelligence in July last year from Godfreys in Aus who sell them for around $1600 retail but I haggled to $1300. The perfume catridges work well ($20 aus) and have a nice linen smell and the other is lemon scented. They are very strong and fill up the room quickly. They are made of rubber.

The suction is excellent and the tools are fantastic, I understand Aerus are using a different setup from the hose onwards but the powerheads and hose that come with the Sauber/Lux are of a good quality with buttons on the handle but the hose kinks at the end near the machine.

My main gripe is the fact the bags leak too much dust onto the pre hepa filter that leads to premature suction loss which I find very frustrating. The guy on here who reviewed the Aerus used carbon and anoter filter ontop of the pre motor filter to prevent that from happening though.

My sister uses carpet powder and without knowing that I vacuumed her house and the vac overheated and shut off.


Post# 225765 , Reply# 60   3/31/2013 at 00:47 (4,016 days old) by Vacshroom ()        
Scent cartridged

Pic of cartidges

Post# 225771 , Reply# 61   3/31/2013 at 04:00 (4,015 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
Thank You for....

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Sharing. I am interested in the scent cartridges. Aerus told me they would not be available here for a few more months. That was about a week ago. Are the bags your using made of paper or are they the cloth type that we are seeing from places like France? A lot of us in the forum think the cloth type bags would take care of the bag leakage problem. Aerus has already made the bag collar thicker and was hoping that would take care of the problem. It did  help, but when I change the bag, the bottom of the bag has some discoloration and a little residue is on the hepa, which leads me to believe they are still leaking to some extent.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

PR-21

 

 

 

 

 


Post# 225784 , Reply# 62   3/31/2013 at 06:07 (4,015 days old) by Vacshroom ()        
Reply to PR-21

PR-21..
Godfreys in Australia import them from a lux distributor without the Sauber badging or anything and sell out quickly, they take a while to come in. The yellow is a lemon scent whilst the blue is more of a "fresh" smell.

I'm using the cloth type bags. Once full the bottom is all discoloured. The "flap/lid" of the machine gets slightly dusty underneath to dirt could be possibly sucked in from other places.


Post# 225798 , Reply# 63   3/31/2013 at 09:09 (4,015 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
Over here we have on all previous models a

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Rubber gasket on the tube that pokes through the bag forming  a seal. They took that off with the Guardian Platinum and I think they need to put it back on. Maybe it would solve the discoloring of the bottom of the bag as well as the hepa filter getting dirtier than normal.....

 

 

PR-21


Post# 225806 , Reply# 64   3/31/2013 at 09:52 (4,015 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Thanks for sharing that story, now we see proof with out own eyes that those bags will leak also. Maybe it will help dispell the myth that "cloth" bags filter better, but I doubt it. People and vacuum stores promote that agenda with a ferocity you wouldn't believe.

Post# 225810 , Reply# 65   3/31/2013 at 10:38 (4,015 days old) by cc (louisiana)        
wow

That certainly looks much worse than anything we have experienced ! I wonder if thats why the cloth type bags didn't make it over here? I do wish they would hurry up with the swissaroma.

Post# 225820 , Reply# 66   3/31/2013 at 13:17 (4,015 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Amazing

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if that isn`t proof that the loved cloth type bags aren't as good as most think I don't know what is .

That has never happened with the paper bags Aerus sells , wow I feel rather picky for the tiny amount of dust that was leaking from my bags . If that's how the cloth type bags filter I do NOT want Aerus to use those.

Dan


Post# 225852 , Reply# 67   3/31/2013 at 17:49 (4,015 days old) by piano_god (British Columbia, Canada)        
electromatik...

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There are many different melt blown polypropylene bags manufactured of various densities and techniques, just like those made of paper.

 

Now, to say all MBP bags leak because the Lux International/Sauber melt blown polypropylene bags leaked is unbelievably short-sighted.

That said, if this is normal for Lux International/Sauber bags all leak fine dust, then they should look to Kirby and Miele on the manufacture of high-quality MBP bags...


Post# 225853 , Reply# 68   3/31/2013 at 18:08 (4,015 days old) by gm1982 ()        

For all around best filtering: (1) M D or B E A M C E N T R A L V A C
(2) M I E L E
(3) R I C C A R (4) A E R U S P L A T I N UM (5) S E B O


Post# 225856 , Reply# 69   3/31/2013 at 18:37 (4,015 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
piano-god:

Thanks for responding and I'm sorry I sounded that accusatory. I did not intend to state that all bags of one type or another leaked. My real intention was to state that "cloth" bags can also leak and are not universally guaranteed to be "better" as some seem to believe. Happy dirt sucking!

Post# 225858 , Reply# 70   3/31/2013 at 18:50 (4,015 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
gm1982:

Where did you get the idea that Riccar filters better than the Platinum? The Platinum is the same as the Lux model in Europe that has passed the strictest filtration standards of Europe and has bested every machine currently marketed. It's not likely any Riccar can beat it.

Post# 225866 , Reply# 71   3/31/2013 at 20:40 (4,015 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Thanks very much for your input Wade. Great information.

Post# 225880 , Reply# 72   3/31/2013 at 23:45 (4,015 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

One other machine that provides best filtration is a TriStar (esp. the A101 Series [EXL, MG1,MG2, MG3 & CS] models)

I have no idea if Lux changed the PN design at all yet & if they will put back on the rubber gasket on the bag fill tube.


Post# 225904 , Reply# 73   4/1/2013 at 06:48 (4,014 days old) by GM1982 ()        

I was unable to edit it... but I was trying to suggest the potential 'best' for all around filtering without any issues. Everyone here seems to be mentioning bags issues with the Sauber/Aerus and dust leaking. I have read many other threads over time about HEPA filtration and have used many vacuums. Seems the least complaints/issues about filtration comes from Miele, Riccar, Sebo and central vacs


Electromatik: in reference to what your were point out- its the Riccar Radiance.


Post# 225920 , Reply# 74   4/1/2013 at 09:20 (4,014 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

The amount of dirt in Vacshroom's filter is astonishing. I wonder if the Australian units utilize the same bag as Lux International in Europe? We should note that Vacshroom stated his sister used carpet powder. We know that any form of fine powder is deadly to Aerus/Lux clean air systems and he stated his machine overheated and shut off. That probably made his case far worse than it ordinarily would be.

Post# 225993 , Reply# 75   4/1/2013 at 16:56 (4,014 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Christopher

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I still say those cloth type bags aren't all they are cracked up to be . They seem to filter well in uprights like Kirby or Oreck but in canisters as Miele and the Sauber they seem to leak .

It`s a mystery to me especially how much they leak in the Sauber the paper bags in the Aerus never leaked that much even with fine dirt I even repaired many with people who use carpet fresh and there was a tiny amount of dust in the canisters or uprights .

Dan


Post# 225994 , Reply# 76   4/1/2013 at 17:01 (4,014 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

I agree Dan.. From Wades report the cloth bags are not the answer. I also seriously doubt the Miele's leak any less.

Post# 225997 , Reply# 77   4/1/2013 at 17:07 (4,014 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Mike

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I was an Authorized Miele dealer and every Miele that came into my store had a lot of dust in the canisters and all used the Genuine cloth bags .

Dan


Post# 226010 , Reply# 78   4/1/2013 at 18:25 (4,014 days old) by Vacshroom ()        
Miele

I own a Miele vac from around 2001, I cleaned it inside and out and after 6 months of vacuuming a high traffic student house every day leakage was minimal.
Also, after 4 bag changes you get a free pre-motor filter with the factory bags so if they did leak and block that filter it would be changed without cost.

With the Lux/Aerus/Sauber the pre motor filter costs $30 aud and isn't washable.


Post# 226013 , Reply# 79   4/1/2013 at 18:29 (4,014 days old) by Vacshroom ()        
In reply

In reply to "Electromatik", the filter was changed right after that happened so the picture posted is 4 months of everyday use.
The cardboard part of the bag does not cover the entire opening and leaves a couple milimeters each corner for dust to get through.


Post# 226016 , Reply# 80   4/1/2013 at 18:37 (4,014 days old) by piano_god (British Columbia, Canada)        

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Could you please elaborate on what bags you say leaked, kirbyloverdan? Were those IntensiveClean, IntensiveClean Plus, HyClean or AirClean bags?

As a current Authorized Miele dealer, I do not have machines coming in that are using genuine bags that leak. Machines using the EnviroCare Technologies bags are a different story, though.


Post# 226017 , Reply# 81   4/1/2013 at 18:47 (4,014 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
I knew they leaked when.....

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Miele came out with the Hyclean Bags. The seal where the bag tube was not tight enough. It was corrected with the Air Clean Bags. My Miele's are spotless inside only using the AirClean Bags. Which in my opinion proves again that Aerus needs to put the rubber gasket back around the bag tube. Aerus are you listening?

 

 

PR-21


Post# 226019 , Reply# 82   4/1/2013 at 18:56 (4,014 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Scott

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they were Intensive clean and Intensive clean plus when I had my store they were available . I am located in a Beach community with lots of sand .

Dan


Post# 226020 , Reply# 83   4/1/2013 at 19:01 (4,014 days old) by eluxca ()        
piano god

I agree with you. I've used only Hy Clean or Air Clean bags in my Aquarius since new. There is no visible dust in the bag chamber after 6 years. On the other hand, I have an Alto Attix 5 commercial canister that used a 12 gallon paper bag until 2 years ago, when Alto replaced the paper bags with the cloth variety. The paper bag filtered amazingly well, keeping the dust bin relatively clean. The new cloth bags are terrible. They leak alot of dust.
It all lies in the quality of a given material. Seeing what our Australian friend posted inclines me to stay with the Home Solutions paper bags.


Post# 226044 , Reply# 84   4/1/2013 at 22:49 (4,014 days old) by piano_god (British Columbia, Canada)        

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Thank you for your response, Dan.

 

The nine layer AirClean bags have improved greatly over Miele's first three layer IntensiveClean and IntensiveClean Plus bags.


Post# 226055 , Reply# 85   4/1/2013 at 23:54 (4,014 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
You are

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welcome Scott that's good because I always had to wash the machines to remove all the dust that built up in them . Their paper bags never leaked like the intensive clean and intensive clean plus bags .I had a customer made me order her the genuine Miele paper bags because they held dust better .

Dan


Post# 226088 , Reply# 86   4/2/2013 at 09:49 (4,013 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
I'm on the same page as eluxca

My main concerns are filtration first and cost second. As long as the dirt is being captured that's all I care about. Whether it be paper or cloth. A lower cost is pleasant to boot.

Kirbyloverdan: that's a funny switch from the usual routine, switching from cloth to paper. LOL


Post# 226239 , Reply# 87   4/3/2013 at 09:34 (4,012 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Christopher

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it is a funny switch but once those cloth intensive clean / plus bags leaked she wanted nothing to do with them the paper never leaked in her Aluminium .

Dan


Post# 226602 , Reply# 88   4/4/2013 at 19:07 (4,011 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Still

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no dust leaking in my Platinum .

Dan


Post# 226614 , Reply# 89   4/4/2013 at 20:06 (4,011 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Really nice looking house Dan.

Post# 226617 , Reply# 90   4/4/2013 at 20:19 (4,011 days old) by cc (louisiana)        
No Dust

In my Platinum either, and believe me , I check!

Post# 226618 , Reply# 91   4/4/2013 at 20:27 (4,011 days old) by eluxca ()        

So, have there been different lots of bags made in China? I hear some "improved" bags leak and some don't. Mine certainly do. I got them late January - when did you all buy your pack of bags?

Post# 226622 , Reply# 92   4/4/2013 at 20:38 (4,011 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Thanks

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Mike I love it a 1920`s Bungalow :) I could have any house I want and this won my heart I am surrounded by 28 acres of woods all mine .

John ,
I just got my bags directly from Aerus about 2 weeks ago .

Dan



Post# 226627 , Reply# 93   4/4/2013 at 20:55 (4,011 days old) by cc (louisiana)        

I cannot figure out why some have trouble and some people do not. The bags that came with my vac leaked, Got new bags and new hepa in February have not had any problems since

Post# 226629 , Reply# 94   4/4/2013 at 21:00 (4,011 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
I think

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some have received the bad batch of bags that came with the machine . I am sure they packaged some of the bad bags and then when they found out they leaked they made the bags better and those are what most of us have received .

Dan


Post# 226642 , Reply# 95   4/4/2013 at 21:56 (4,011 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Wow Dan 28 acres and a great house. That is awesome.
I have had no leaking problems since my new batch of bags.. On the third new bag now.


Post# 226721 , Reply# 96   4/5/2013 at 09:29 (4,010 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Mike

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that's great news I am still on my first bag I go between my Guardian upright and my Kirby Sentria II I use all 3 in my home .

Yeah I love having all that land 28 acres and a small home 1000 sqft. is perfect .
Luckily only one acre is clear and that all I have to take care of the rest is untouched woods.

Love my Aerus Guardian Platinum it is the best canister out there in my opinion .

Dan


Post# 226776 , Reply# 97   4/5/2013 at 15:22 (4,010 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

I am absolutely crazy about pre WW II homes. They are really hard to come buy down in Florida. We have a log cabin on a few acres in the north Ga mountains which is very wooded. Love the woods.

Light just came on for the third bag full today. No leakage. A little dirt on the pre filter but absolutely spotless on the carbon side. The after filter is spotless too and that's with a few of the older bags that leaked.


Post# 226847 , Reply# 98   4/5/2013 at 19:46 (4,010 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Mike

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That's great news Aerus always fixes their problems they always have that's why they have existed all these years .

I too love old homes , I could have a Mc Mansion if I wanted to but this home has so much more character it just feels like HOME . It`s cozy small and so easy to keep clean I wouldn't trade it for anything.

There was a bidding war and I was against 3 other buyers it was listed Saturday and purchased by me by Monday . I was willing to pay anything for this home as soon as I pulled up to it the contracts were filled out then I looked at it .

Dan


Post# 226885 , Reply# 99   4/5/2013 at 22:25 (4,010 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
Yay!

Great news at last. I think the filtration would be excellent even with the leaky bags. The afterfilter stays white as snow they say. Will we be getting the scent cartridges similar to Lux in Europe?

Post# 226945 , Reply# 100   4/6/2013 at 06:52 (4,009 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
In a few months...for the scents that fit in the exhaust

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Per Aerus a week or so ago. They do not have them in stock yet.

 

 

PR-21


Post# 226985 , Reply# 101   4/6/2013 at 12:41 (4,009 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

That is good to hear on the scent cartridge.
How long do they last before you have to replace them. ?


Post# 227043 , Reply# 102   4/6/2013 at 17:15 (4,009 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Depends on

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Usage I would guess .

Dan


Post# 227574 , Reply# 103   4/9/2013 at 14:55 (4,006 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Any word on the new upright yet ?

Post# 227580 , Reply# 104   4/9/2013 at 15:27 (4,006 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Question: Just curious

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I know this depends on the user - but what would the average YEARLY operating cost be with one of these machines?

Post# 227600 , Reply# 105   4/9/2013 at 17:36 (4,006 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Mark,
I have a German shepherd who sheds a lot so I vacuum everyday, I don't dust either above the ground, I vacuum everything since dusters just push dust around and it lands somewhere else so I go through about 1 bag a month to five or six weeks. I think most people will get 2 months out of a bag. They really hold a lot of dust because of the cyclone action.
So roughly 6 bags at 2 bucks a bag. $12.00. One Pre motor hepa per year heavy user every two years lite user @39 dollars. So roughly 32 to 50 dollars a year.


Post# 227627 , Reply# 106   4/9/2013 at 19:41 (4,006 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Aerus

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Vacuums are very inexpensive to use compared to Miele canisters .

I have always loved Aerus , Kirby , Rainbow , Filter Queen , Ghibbli vortech Force, Miracle Mate , Tri Star , Hyla , Aura Robo clean , Royal Metal , Hoover Convertible, Eureka/Sanitaire old style , Ocean Blue ,Viking, Simplicity , Riccar and Oreck are the best vacuums IMO .

They are all high end / quality machines all brands I only collect .

Dan


Post# 227628 , Reply# 107   4/9/2013 at 19:43 (4,006 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

I'm starting to doubt there will be a "new" upright. I'm not trying to insult anyone but let's face it: none of the predictions made have came to pass. Anything we hear or read is hearsay. I hope they at least keep upgrading the Platinum. Of course, if the "new" upright is just a Guardian with a black color, it won't be "new" to me. Remember, they already put out a new upright not long ago with the FreshEra, which I love. I think they need a completely new upright design. And it could happen. Recall that the 1205 in 1969 was a vast departure in design and technology. However, upon release they used the 1950's era power nozzle design for a while until the new design came out. Thier changes have always been incremental.

Post# 227629 , Reply# 108   4/9/2013 at 20:01 (4,006 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
If it

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isn't broke don't fix it that's their motto on the upright . Many people love the upright just the way it is . I am excited by the color change and will purchase one once it is available .

The most reliable vacuum they make is the upright and many are in commercial settings and last many years .

My mother is still using her Discovery II advantage and the only thing I ever replaced was the brush roller . Not once did it ever break down I think that's the reason they wont change this style upright .

Dan


Post# 227634 , Reply# 109   4/9/2013 at 20:55 (4,006 days old) by cc (louisiana)        
I hope

There is a new upright on the horizon. But my Lux 6000 is 18 and has never been down for a day. I am starting to think Dan is right, they don't wan't to change a good thing! Although I think they would get a sales jump if they would update. Look how well Aerus is doing with the Platinum - they can barely keep up with production, how long has it been since they have had that problem, and what a great problem to have.

Post# 227730 , Reply# 110   4/10/2013 at 15:05 (4,005 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
Scent cartridges ...

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Couldn't you just saturate a cotton ball with the essential oil of your choice and stick it in the chamber?

It would certainly be a lot healthier than God Only Knows what chemicals they'll be putting into those cartridges.

I think it's quite dangerous that we as a society have become so enamoured of "scents" that we have air fresheners in just about everything, everywhere. It's not good -- those are all toxic chemicals we're breathing in!


Post# 227764 , Reply# 111   4/10/2013 at 18:58 (4,005 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
If you just place a

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cotton ball saturated with any type of oil scent it will melt the plastic .

Dan


Post# 227798 , Reply# 112   4/10/2013 at 21:33 (4,005 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC)        

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The FreshEra is a Hoover Signature upright. Available for around $149-$199 at any internet store. I'm good friends with someone within Aerus, and know that Aerus was selling the FreshEra to dealers for significantly more than the Hoover Signature cost me (I own two stores in SC). It is very interesting the direction Aerus is taking with outsourcing their canister. Time will tell.

Post# 227811 , Reply# 113   4/10/2013 at 23:55 (4,005 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Well I like the upright but I disagree that it isn't broken. It is a great design, but it needs some tweaks to be competitive in the high-end segment. I feel that we have progressed beyond 1955, and beyond 1985. All manufacturers now know how to seal a unit. This needs to be done on as many as possible. Vacuums should hold the dirt they pick up. The Aerus upright just needs a few improvements and it would be beyond good, it would be fantastic. It needs to be fully sealed with no doubt about it. It needs to incorporate the double HEPA technology. It needs to integrate the sealed filters. It needs on board attachments. Finally, it needs an LED headlight. It can forego the swivel neck because it has an L shaped nozzle, which allows easier movement around furniture legs.

Regarding the FreshEra, it's just the new version of the Lux Lite that Electrolux brought in. The FreshEra is a great little vacuum. While the FreshEra is outsourced it has Aerus specifics. The Platinum was designed by Aerus and Lux and is supposed to eventually be manufactured at Bristol according to someone on this forum but I've forgotten who said it. The Euro/Dollar ratio probably plays a role.


Post# 227824 , Reply# 114   4/11/2013 at 07:40 (4,004 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC)        

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The FreshEra is built with a different hood, and a different color bag. There are no "Lux specifications" that it is built to other than colors. We have repaired several, and all of the parts are inter-changable. The canister is outsourced as well. The only thing truly "Aerus" is the hose, wands, and PN. I do think that Sauber canister is a completely better direction than continuously updating and changing the 2100 style.

Post# 227851 , Reply# 115   4/11/2013 at 10:02 (4,004 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Yes it has

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one Aerus specification the "L" shaped nozzle on the current fresh era . The model that is mainly Hoover was discontinued .

The fresh era is used by my Aerus dealer and many others as an ad on to make a sale . He doesn't charge for it makes it look like they are getting something for free .

Dan


Post# 227858 , Reply# 116   4/11/2013 at 10:18 (4,004 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
How the Platinum Edition came to America

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True Story: The vacuum cleaner industry has a trade show every year, called the VDTA show (Vacuum Dealers Trade Association). Two years ago, it was held in New Orleans. Tacony brought myself and 50 examples of vintage cleaners from the Museum. I invited Rich Luisi, Vice President of Sales for Aerus - North America, to the convention. My good friends Chris Nash, Derreck Fricke and Evan Rogers were also present. Derreck spoke to Rich at length about getting the Lux Intelligence model into America to replace the outdated Hi Tech 2100 design. I had the chance to talk to him at length as well about the need for a completely new model, something along the revolutionary lines of the model LX. Within six months, the Platinum was in the USA being tested and tweeked for American homes and 110 volt current. It was launched in January, as we all know. I asked Rich directly about any new development of any 'new' upright - and was told directly that there is NO new upright being designed - just a new color scheme to match the Platinum. The reason the power nozzle doesn't shut off when the cleaner itself is stopped - is so one can use the Sidekick OR the Power Nozzle (or the Dry Lux) to scrub in the carpet cleaning powder without sucking it up. Try a little Capture on the sofa, use the Sidekick to scrub it in without the canister motor running, let it dry, and vacuum it up. Works like a Charm.

Post# 227860 , Reply# 117   4/11/2013 at 10:31 (4,004 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC)        

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Thanks Tom for clearing that up. I was also wrong on the new freshEra. There was an earlier lightweight that was made by TTI. I'm glad I was wrong about the new FreshEra, I need to go check it out soon over at our ailing Lux dealer's place.

I'm also glad that we can give proper and credible information on here. I've been dying to clear up the non-existant "new upright" that is not coming out in April. Reminds me of the totally new and redesigned Kirby that was supposed to come out..hmmm..last February I believe?



Post# 227864 , Reply# 118   4/11/2013 at 10:55 (4,004 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
Fresh Era by Aerus

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Hi Chris:
The Fresh-Era upright is still built in the same factory where they made Hoover, Royal, and Rubbermaid ultralite models under private labels. The Fresh-Era uses a slightly longer brush roller, has a headlight that the other 'versions' do not, as well as a unique color and bumper guard. The Fresh-Era is actually a really good upright in the light weight class. Aerus bags for the Lux Lite and Fresh-Era are slightly thicker than the Royal/Hoover type B bags.


Post# 227869 , Reply# 119   4/11/2013 at 11:22 (4,004 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
That Kirby rumor

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was started by Tom he told me it was on its way and all that ever came out was the Sentria II .

The new fresh era is an excellent light weight vacuum . You know there are always rumors about every product made not just vacuums .

Dan


Post# 227883 , Reply# 120   4/11/2013 at 12:05 (4,004 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Many do not know this but: all manufacturers share their new vacuums with each other. Several years ago, I took a group of collector friends to the 'vaults' at Tacony's engineering department. Rows upon rows of new cleaners. Most without serial numbers, as they were never for sale, and sent before they were launched to the public.

Working for a major manufacturer, and having helped with the design of the three new models coming from Tacony this year, I can say with total certainty that it takes as long as two years to prep a new model for launch. From design, to field testing of the prototypes, to ordering the VERY expensive tooling for injection molding, to the Marketing Department's long process of preparing photos and brochures, then sales has to weigh in on 'how' it's going to be sold, then boxing has to be created and drop and stress testing done, as well as life testing. It's a long, drawn out process.

The Generation Three was actually in life testing in people's homes while the Legend was being sold as the new cleaner.

Many years ago, when I was President of the VCCC, we went to Filter Queen's headquarters as well as Kirby. At Filter Queen, we saw the prototype of the Dyson-designed Filter Queen Cyclonic. At Kirby, John Lochner (head of engineering) took us into the Engineering Room and demonstrated what will be the Avalier to our group. The G5 had just come into production at that time. Mike Pletcher took some great shots of myself and Clay Floyd using the Avalier.


Post# 227935 , Reply# 121   4/11/2013 at 15:57 (4,004 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Tom, ,makes sense now about the capture and the power to the sidekick. To bad they don't make the dry lux anymore. It would be a great addition to my platinum,

Post# 227936 , Reply# 122   4/11/2013 at 15:59 (4,004 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

You are absolutely right Dan about product rumors. Look at any of the Apple products. Talking about major rumors.

Post# 227937 , Reply# 123   4/11/2013 at 16:03 (4,004 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

The FreshEra also has features the others do not. It has an LED headlight, 5 layer filtration, variable speed motor, and a long warranty. The Hoover Signature doesn't much look like the new FrehEra, I wonder if it's still the same manufacturer?

Post# 227975 , Reply# 124   4/11/2013 at 19:00 (4,004 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC)        

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I seriously doubt that the new Fresh Era is made anywhere near the Hoover Signature. It looks to be too nice. I'll try to slip by and check it out in the next couple of days and find the mfg origin. Lindhaus still uses a power nozzle on both uprights and canisters that is adaptable to dry cleaning the carpet. I sold two today based on the fact that they both offer that feature.

Tom, I'll have to check out the platinum when I get to St. Louis in a few months for our get-together!


Post# 227980 , Reply# 125   4/11/2013 at 19:08 (4,004 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
The Fresh era is manufactured by

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TTI made in China same as Hoover and Royal .

Dan


Post# 228952 , Reply# 126   4/18/2013 at 15:38 (3,997 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Second

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Bag and zero dust in the canister or on the Hepa filter .Plus my home is very low dust like I am using the Rainbow E Onyx .

I'm really loving my Aerus ...


Dan


Post# 228953 , Reply# 127   4/18/2013 at 15:40 (3,997 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Me too Dan. Just checked my forth new bag today. Probably about 3/4's full, no dust at all leaking through. Use it daily.

Post# 228954 , Reply# 128   4/18/2013 at 15:41 (3,997 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Any word about the scents for the platinum being out yet?

Post# 228956 , Reply# 129   4/18/2013 at 15:49 (3,997 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
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nothing yet I have been rather busy so I haven't called my Aerus guy yet .

Dan


Post# 228961 , Reply# 130   4/18/2013 at 16:06 (3,997 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
Agree with Dan

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Aerus Vice President, Rich Luisi, sent me the Platinum Edition that I have. He actually sent me a new one of each model Aerus currently makes, for our Museum display. I use the Platinum at home (I actually purchased one for my house - the ones sent to the Museum were donated). With the new bags, I've had NO problems with dust leakage or bag breakage. Just to be on the safe side, I cut open a Simplicity True HEPA bag, cut out a square of the bag material, and put it between the pre-motor HEPA filter and the back of the Aerus bag. The white bag material is still clean after three bags, as is my Pre-motor HEPA filter. I'm completely pleased with the new Platinum Edition, I have no complaints. I did put the green bristle brush roller in my Power Nozzle, I feel it picks up dog hair better and leaves the carpet more 'well groomed'.

Now if only I could get my Dan to stop using the Miele Salsa and use the Aerus. He doesn't care for vacuums in general or canisters in particular. He's quite hard on them, just like any other member of the public. He won't even turn off the brush roller of the Miele to clean the kitchen floor - say's "It's too much trouble". As long as he vacuums and the house is clean when I get home, he can use what ever he wishes.

As for me, I'll stick with my Platinum Edition.


Post# 228972 , Reply# 131   4/18/2013 at 17:17 (3,997 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Is the green brush rolls easy to come by Tom? Is it easy for a mechanical klutz like me to change out? It is a genuine Aerus/lux part.
Thanks


Post# 228986 , Reply# 132   4/18/2013 at 19:29 (3,997 days old) by cc (louisiana)        

Does anyone know if there is a way to order the scent packages from different countries? They seem available lots of other places.
ALSO I AM DUST FREE AS WELL.


Post# 229001 , Reply# 133   4/18/2013 at 22:19 (3,997 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
@luxman

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I got my green bristle brush roller from Rich Luisi directly. They were sold ten years ago - so it's a "new old stock" (NOS) part. I feel that the stiff green bristles, combined with absolutely no space between the brush tufts (or "fully tufted" as GE used to advertise) cleans beautifully. It makes the Power Nozzle "self propelled" and grooms very well. While it makes the nozzle slightly louder, I feel that the vastly improved cleaning ability is worth it. I don't know if any more are available.

In all honesty, the Aerus power nozzle is actually very easy to work on. The screws are removed from the bottom, which allows the top cover to come off. A single set screw on each side of the brush roller, holds the brush roller bearing/end cap in place, so it's very easy to change your own brush roller.

The picture is of my partner, Dan, with my new Platinum Edition and a 1937 Pre-War model XXX (30) Electrolux. It's probably the only time he's used it. I do vacuum with it - on my day off from work. Otherwise, he's using the Miele Salsa - his personal favorite.


Post# 229005 , Reply# 134   4/18/2013 at 23:55 (3,997 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Chemicals in the scents

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I worry about that too ........ Even though I love the smell of the Genuine Rexair scents, I use essential oil in my rainbow, it doesn't foam either. Amazingly, some of the Rexair scents FOAM which isn't good for the machine. In my Areus, I put some essential oil on a cotton ball and suck it into the bag.....I think it may help kill anything growing in there.

Post# 229119 , Reply# 135   4/19/2013 at 15:31 (3,996 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Thanks Tom. Love your wealth of information. Awesome picture of Dan with than and now luxes. Probably the two best machines ever made

Post# 229120 , Reply# 136   4/19/2013 at 15:36 (3,996 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

BTW, that GE roll easy in the background looks awesome. If I ever get out to Mo, I could probably spend days in your museum


Post# 229129 , Reply# 137   4/19/2013 at 17:43 (3,996 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
Luxman107

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The Vacuum Cleaner Museum is open six days per week, Monday through Saturday, 9 to 5. Admission to the Museum is free. If you come Monday through Thursday, I can also take you up to the factory floor for a tour. You can see a Tacony vacuum cleaner built from the ground up. The Museum is a resource for ALL vacuum collectors - while we get thousands of visitors every year from all over the world, we tend to get mostly very young vacuum collectors. Brought to the Museum by their parents. I always encourage the parents to encourage their children's hobby. Mine did. I grew up to become a successful vac shop owner, and now I'm the curator of the Vacuum Cleaner Museum. Without their support and encouragement, I might have just become a chef instead.

Like Charles Lester, Electrolux is one of my all time favorite models. Aerus has done a great job continuing the legacy of great vacuums. I believe I have one of every model they've ever built. Come by anytime and I'll show them all to you. The Museum is interactive, so you can plug in and try out every machine in the Museum if you wish. We also have an EXTENSIVE library of instruction manuals and brochures for all brands.


Post# 229140 , Reply# 138   4/19/2013 at 19:27 (3,996 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

That's awesome Tom. Thanks.. Will for sure take you up on that offer some time.. Thank you

Post# 229389 , Reply# 139   4/21/2013 at 06:11 (3,994 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

It's amazing how we accept everything we read on here as fact. The member dysonman1 has directly contradicted everything funeraldirector has said. Funeraldirector said he PERSONALLY SPOKE with Joe Urso himself and was told a new upright was and new power nozzle was being designed. Funeraldirector claims Urso told him the Platinum was designed by Aerus and Lux together. Dysonman1 has reported otherwise. It really makes one wonder what to believe. I'm not sure I can believe any of it now. There will be no new Aerus upright this month. I will now only believe what I read on the company website. LOL

Post# 229391 , Reply# 140   4/21/2013 at 06:48 (3,994 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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You could always call Rich yourself. He's the Vice President of Sales for North America. He's in Georgia. Google him, and pick up the phone. NO NEW UPRIGHT! The Platinum Edition is here ONLY because Derreck Fricke and I talked to Rich about it at the VDTA (vacuum dealer's trade association) Convention in New Orleans. It's actually that simple.

Post# 229400 , Reply# 141   4/21/2013 at 07:49 (3,994 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
By the way dysonman1:

I didn't mean anything hateful or rude by what I said. I'm just noting the contradictory info we've seen written here. I didn't mean to direct any negative vibes toward you or your statements.

Post# 229401 , Reply# 142   4/21/2013 at 08:28 (3,994 days old) by GM1982 ()        

agree, I don't think there is a new upright, It was all chatter. I will believe it when I see it. I have the Guardian Upright, its good vac, some flaws. However, I am not a vac shop owner or claim to be a big vacuum buff... but I can tell you there are better options than the Guardian Upright for the price.

Post# 229407 , Reply# 143   4/21/2013 at 09:13 (3,994 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
Aerus new upright.......

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Normally they do match the upright to the canister when changed. I would at least think that would happen. I have had the Lux uprights before including the one they have now, which I gave as a present to my cousin. I like the L shaped power nozzles for getting into tight spaces I would normally have to use an upholstery tool....For a long while Aerus did nothing as far as research and developement. Hardly even did a color change. I think that hurt them until bringing out the Guardian Platinum. As other people have mentioned, there are a few issues, but overall I really like it. One new thing I have noticed is the bumper on the power nozzle is black and I have white woodwork. I am getting a mark along my woodwork since using the Guardian Platinum. Checked the bumper and there is a small nub (bump) on one side, which I will file down. Not sure if it is due to the nub or just that it is black....I have the Lux Classic in the latest white color and it has not put a mark on my woodwork...I always check for this when I get new machines so I know it isn't from any of my previous vacuums. This might not be noticable if your woodwork is dark or stained.....

PR-21


Post# 229440 , Reply# 144   4/21/2013 at 14:18 (3,994 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I would love to see Aerus design a completely new upright. The only problem is that the cost to tool up to make it, plus the engineering cost to design it, are extremely prohibitive for a company that's no longer 'at the top of their game'. If there were still legions of salesmen going door to door, if they were still selling thousands per week, it would be a different story.

Post# 229464 , Reply# 145   4/21/2013 at 18:05 (3,994 days old) by funeraldirector (Boston)        
Aerus Platinum

Electromatik,


My conversation a few months back in regards to the Guardian Platinum was with Kevin Hickey who is now the President of Aerus and started with Lux back in Old Greenwich if memory serves me. This is not the first time they have looked at or partnered with Lux International. They were considering introducing an American version of the Lux-1 as early as 2003 as one was in the Dallas office of their chief engineer when one of the guys I worked with at the time had seen it. He went down to Dallas to purchase his franchise which is since closed. I had this same discussion with Andy Eide about bringing a Lux-1 style machine to North America at the convention in Manhattan in 2003, which would have required some engineering changes to the cordwinder and front cover as well as powerplant. Andy is still the chief engineer. They re-visited this idea again around 2005 or so and were going to bring the Ecolux 8000 steamer to market here. It was about this time I think that the development process began on the Intelligence. I was told it took six years and was a joint effort by both companies, with the North American introduction delayed a couple of years due to the exchange rate with the euro. Lux USA does supply Lux AG with Floorpros sold in South America. However, the Intelligence/Platinum is entirely produced in eastern europe and Lux USA spends little on R&D so what does this tell us?

The last two remaining 48011 green HPO brush roller assemblies in Aerus FOAS were located for me by Tim Vadnay who oversees parts and warranty for Aerus. I have known Rich Luisi for many years as well and spoke at length with him after Tom suggested he might still have one laying around. He too said this development process took six years but I did not get into a great discussion about how this unit came into existence.

It has been a while since I spoke with Joe Urso. Most of what I was told is from those above mentioned. A new updated power nozzle was said to be in the works due to its 30 year old design and noise when partnered with the Platinum. We have some great stuff coming I believe was the quote. The new Guardian upright I heard is a new blackish color like the Platinum power nozzle cover. The original rumor about a re-designed upright came from Lux up here in New England.

At the end of day I think Tom is probably right on as we have talked about this a couple times recently when he took time to answer several questions I had about the Lux Intelligence and purchasing a 2013 Rainbow to poo my berber carpets. In twelve years with Lux I learned never to take anything at face value.

Did anyone else notice the Aerus logo on Tom's machine is between the switches not on the stainless cover? I like it better.

Brian


Post# 229465 , Reply# 146   4/21/2013 at 18:15 (3,994 days old) by GM1982 ()        
dysonman1

very true.... where I live in New York, a little research, and I discovered four locations closed in the last several years. I would actually call the numbers on the website, and turns out the location is no longer in business. Seems they are trying to make a comeback, but I feel its very closeted and unknown compared to the competition from Sebo, Miele & Tacony. The Platinum is a nice stride, but they are loosing focus and trying to profit from air purifier and water purification sales; some which are basically re-baged Blue Air purifiers, that are marked up ridiculously.

Post# 229473 , Reply# 147   4/21/2013 at 20:01 (3,994 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
@Brian

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VERY good eye. I'll be the first to admit Aerus knew about the vacuums of Lux International. Rich was familiar with the machine when I first spoke about it with him. But the company, at least to my knowledge at the time, was not considering having it designed for our voltage for U.S. sales. Two things occurred at the same time at the VDTA convention in New Orleans. Perfect was launching their copy of the plastic bodied Lux. And Rich Luisi flew to New Orleans to attend the convention and see the Vacuum Museum display. Derreck Fricke, Evan Rogers, and I had the opportunity to speak to him at length (several hours) about the need for a new model as the Perfect copy made the Guardian Ultra redundant. Derreck had personal knowledge of the Lux Intelligence. Two weeks after the convention, Rich called and spoke to me at length once again about the machine. He told me they were having prototypes sent with the new control board. My Platinum Edition came directly from Rich Luisi to my hands. I believe that without the 'kick start', the Platinum may very well not be the current new model. Or perhaps it would have happened anyway. I do know that Rich's new-found excitement over the Intelligence (which became our Platinum) get the ball rolling very fast.

Post# 229494 , Reply# 148   4/22/2013 at 01:08 (3,994 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Thank you funeraldirector. I was in no way trying to accuse you of being a liar. I hope you believe that. It appears to me that the European Lux was adapted by Aerus to the U.S. market and little more. I don't mind that because the two companies share engineering and other projects all the time. I would feel a lot better if Aerus wouldn't abandon U.S. manufacture. I would hate to see them become yet another brand that slaps thier name on other companies' vacs. I hope that goes some way toward explaining my own biases. I hope it remains a company that can come up with it's own products. I hope we do see some new introductions in VACUUM CLEANERS. I don't really like all these tangents Aerus is going down. I guess we should be glad that the Platinum is here because many are saying it's a runaway success. Most of the comments on the Aerus youtube video are positive-people love it.

Post# 229505 , Reply# 149   4/22/2013 at 07:38 (3,993 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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My Lux one , I think the hose and cleaner head would have needed more work for the USA market. Its a lovely machine but the hose setup let it down alot. To switch off the cleaner head you had to tug on the connecting plugs to disconect them. Not very user freindly. You could see this machine was designed for a market with little to no Carpets in there homes as the whole pn setup was a little of an afterthought. If you look behind the machine you can see the wire and plug connection for the PN. The PN itself is great, Light to use with very good brush action


Post# 229564 , Reply# 150   4/22/2013 at 15:34 (3,993 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

The hose, tools and PN are made in the USA. Can't verify but I was told the canister is assembled here too but all the parts are made in Europe..
Wish they had that braided hose here in the USA. Love it


Post# 229620 , Reply# 151   4/23/2013 at 01:43 (3,993 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

What luxman107 is correct as far as I know. At least it used to be. Electrolux started manufacturing that style of hose, wand, and power nozzle before they ever changed to Aerus. As far as I know, the manufacture of the FloorPro, the central vac, the uprights (except FreshEra), the canisters (except Platinum), plus the wands, hoses, tools (except Sidekick), and power nozzles, are made at Bristol. I've never had any idea where the air and water filters were made. HomeCare Industries used to make the bags, scent products, shampoos, and other cleaners/treatments at thier U.S. plants. Whether they still do remains to be seen as HomeCare Industries is in a tailspin now.

Post# 230285 , Reply# 152   4/27/2013 at 17:43 (3,988 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
Can anyone refer me to a dealer?

I'm looking to buy over the phone/internet. I've watched the Houston market shrivel up from 4 dealers to 1 (almost 1). I don't necessarily want to buy local because they never answer their phone and the last time I tried to business with them they tried to screw me over. Who knows? Maybe one of you can refer me to a dealer who will give me a cash price? My email is listed in my profile info. Please send me a message if you know of someone who can help me out.

Post# 230288 , Reply# 153   4/27/2013 at 18:16 (3,988 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
John

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I sent you an email for my local Aerus guy he is an absolute kind and honest man I have been purchasing from his store from years he is the owner .

Dan


Post# 230289 , Reply# 154   4/27/2013 at 18:20 (3,988 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        

Thanks Dan!

Post# 230346 , Reply# 155   4/28/2013 at 10:28 (3,987 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
Are the Platinum wands and P/N interchangeable?

Dan,

I can't find the original thread where this was addressed. Are these the exact same fittings as what is used on the TriStar? I'd love to know because i just saw a website that sells a 12 foot Tristar hose and I'd gladly buy it and then order a separate hose connector for the Platinum to attach to this hose so I could have a 12 foot hose for the Platinum. I've been spoiled having the 14 foot hose on my Rainbow Onyx.


Post# 230349 , Reply# 156   4/28/2013 at 10:55 (3,987 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
The

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wands are interchangeable the hose I guess could work if you purchase the Aerus machine end connector .Tri Star attachments work also .

Dan


Post# 230385 , Reply# 157   4/28/2013 at 15:40 (3,987 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

I got my platinum before it was actually released in January. At that time extra part where not available so I ordered two extra wands from a tri star distributor. Exactly the same color amd everything.

Post# 230696 , Reply# 158   4/30/2013 at 15:05 (3,985 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

4 th new bag full today. Absolutely no leakage

Post# 230697 , Reply# 159   4/30/2013 at 15:08 (3,985 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Here is from the front.. Just like the Electrolux C style bags, they get like a brick and barely any loss of suction.

Post# 230718 , Reply# 160   4/30/2013 at 18:24 (3,985 days old) by joshdonnell ()        
So

Are the Aerus home care bags anti Microbial/ Antibacterial?. I dont like the thought of germs and nastyness growing the bag.

Post# 230890 , Reply# 161   5/1/2013 at 22:30 (3,984 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Mike

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That's how my bags get they are loaded with sand and are very heavy since I live in a beach community .

The bags are anti microbial so nothing will grow in the bags .

Dan


Post# 230948 , Reply# 162   5/2/2013 at 15:09 (3,983 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Dan ,
They are unbelievably heavy and really packed. The extremely little loss of suction is incredible too


Post# 234059 , Reply# 163   5/26/2013 at 10:55 (3,959 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Another

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Bag and still no dust leakage . I really feel the improved bags have been the solution .

Dan


Post# 234120 , Reply# 164   5/27/2013 at 00:08 (3,959 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

So good to know. Those jammed bags impress me to no end. I will continue to hope they stick with those due to lower cost. I'm so disappointed that nothing new appears to be coming down the line though...

Post# 243954 , Reply# 165   8/5/2013 at 19:34 (3,888 days old) by Vacshroom ()        
Guardian Turbo Tool.

Hi everyone, not sure if this thread is still going but the Aerus/Sauber/Lux vac we are discussing has a "Turbo tool" similar to a kirby in regards to the fact that it cleans, sands, polishes and is also a massager.

In Australia it is sold for around $300 under the Sauber name for a few of the tools, but Lux also sold this set with their previous vacuum.
The Lux distributors of Australia posted that they found a pallet of the turbo tools in their warehouse and are selling them for only $50 Aud (Lux branded).

I just purchased one and will give a review if it comes. I'm not too sure if the tool will work on the American vacuums in regards to the power supply but I would assume the power from the unit to the powerhead would be the same.
Cheers guys.



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Post# 243963 , Reply# 166   8/5/2013 at 20:03 (3,888 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

I wish EAerus lux did offer those here in the states. I think it would come in handy for a lot uses. Like you, I am not sure if it what fit the platinum power hose used here. From your picture I don't think it would fit the hoses here

Post# 244124 , Reply# 167   8/6/2013 at 15:29 (3,887 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
turbotool

is one thing that was tried and never took off. Here is the tool from the 1980's. Sanded ,massaged, polished and did everything theAustralian tool did. Customers were not into it.

Post# 244137 , Reply# 168   8/6/2013 at 16:12 (3,887 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        
Turbo tool

Interesting, never new Electrolux had one.

Post# 244708 , Reply# 169   8/9/2013 at 11:47 (3,884 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Does the Guardian Platinum have automatic shut-off like the older Lux?

It still won't run without a bag inside like the other Aerus/Electrolux, is that true for the Platinum?




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Post# 244855 , Reply# 170   8/9/2013 at 16:00 (3,884 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Erik,
If you mean for full bag, no, there is just a full bag indicator light in the led function center..There is also a pre filter change light in this section. In the case of ever overheating, yes there is a shut off.


Post# 244932 , Reply# 171   8/9/2013 at 22:02 (3,884 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Oh NO! You are kidding! It doesn't have the traditional Lux feature??? How sad...

Post# 252065 , Reply# 172   10/4/2013 at 20:06 (3,828 days old) by 2011hoover700 (owosso michigan)        
Attn all platinum owners

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I just aquired a silverado deluxe and was wondering if any of you aerus lux guardian platinum owners also had a silverado deluxe. If so I was wondering how a platinum compared to a silverado deluxe. I love my silverado deluxe.

Post# 252580 , Reply# 173   10/11/2013 at 12:25 (3,821 days old) by utahprideboy (Southern Utah)        
i wish

i had the same luck as you guys with the new bags! I bought 2 new packages and they STILL leak! so i am back to glueing the Synthetic bags! I see your pic's lux and i see they dont leak, i wish i knew what i was doing diffrent than you!

Post# 252585 , Reply# 174   10/11/2013 at 14:47 (3,821 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I cut a piece of Hepa cloth disposable bag material from a Simplicity type F HEPA bag, into a square. I place this square over the pre-motor hepa filter and I use the blue paper Platinum Bags. While they do leak some fine dust, it's caught on the HEPA bag material and my pre-motor filter is spotless. Lots easier than making a Hepa bag with a glue gun.

Interestingly, my Platinum Edition's motor stops when the full bag light comes on. I have the very early version with the first power nozzle cover. Here at the Museum, they sent me (free) a second one (to display) with the "new" power nozzle hood. Haven't got any dirt into it yet, but I'm assuming it shuts off when the full bag light comes on too. One day I'll have to actually vacuum dirt into it to see. Right now, it's a "rug virgin".


Post# 252591 , Reply# 175   10/11/2013 at 15:23 (3,821 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

That is interesting Tom. My motor doesn't shut when the full bag lite comes on. Maybe I will try letting it run a little longer after the light comes on.

Post# 252592 , Reply# 176   10/11/2013 at 15:24 (3,821 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

That is interesting Tom. My motor doesn't shut when the full bag lite comes on. Maybe I will try letting it run a little longer after the light comes on.

Post# 252593 , Reply# 177   10/11/2013 at 15:27 (3,821 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Btw, my machine is just about a year old now, got mine the end of last October before they officially came out in January. I go through about a bag a month. The pre motor filter is showing some dirt, but don't think it is in need of replacement yet. The light to change it hasn't come on.

Post# 252619 , Reply# 178   10/11/2013 at 17:50 (3,821 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Does the Guardian Platinum now have the bag door tube seal like the other Lux vacuums?

 

I just found a green bristle HPO brush roller, which came with my Epic 6500SR


Post# 252632 , Reply# 179   10/11/2013 at 21:09 (3,821 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Mine is

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Still not leaking maybe because I am at the beach and sand doesn't get through these bags .
I still love my Platinum and it's the best Aerus in a long time .

Dan


Post# 252652 , Reply# 180   10/12/2013 at 03:23 (3,820 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

I'm not sure how reliable this information is, but this review of the Lux Guardian Platinum clearly states that the machine shuts off when full bag.

www.vdta.com/Magazines/JUL13/fc-G...


Post# 252748 , Reply# 181   10/12/2013 at 23:45 (3,820 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        
Vdta

Interesting article,
Just went through my owners manual which states full bag light comes on, nothing about motor shut off.
The full bag indicator light comes on with my machine but motor hasn't shut off. Been through close to a dozen bags already. I kind of wish it would shut off like my lux legacy does. Would be even better if the bag door popped open like my old model luxes


Post# 252750 , Reply# 182   10/13/2013 at 00:34 (3,820 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

I know, all this conflicting information is quite strange. None of the videos about the machine from Aerus report anything about shut-off either. But still, dysonman1 reports his machine does stop. Perhaps the very early forms of it did and they took it away later fearing it was too much technology to go wrong. Automatic suction control, automatic overheating control, automatic brush roll shut-off, automatic motor shut-off, plus a computer controlled motor would be a LOT of technology. Still, I would hate to see Lux give up on it's most famous technological advancement.

Post# 252847 , Reply# 183   10/13/2013 at 17:52 (3,819 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

The bag I have in now is pretty close to full. When the full bag light comes on, I will use it with a full bag light for a short while and see if it shuts off. Will let you all now. I have serial number 63 or 65 so it's a pretty early make.

Post# 252961 , Reply# 184   10/14/2013 at 19:02 (3,818 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

The best solution would be to talk to your dealer or an Aerus rep. about it. According to the Gasko article the machine shuts off then turns the light on. Is there a possibility yours isn't working correctly?


Post# 252963 , Reply# 185   10/14/2013 at 20:05 (3,818 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

I will check with him, thanks Christopher. The bag in mine now is almost full. With let it run a a while after the light comes and see if it shuts off.

Post# 253571 , Reply# 186   10/22/2013 at 23:12 (3,810 days old) by utahprideboy (Southern Utah)        
i just

I just ordered a Platinum with the reduced sound power nozzle i hope it compliments the quiet sound of the canister, i love the sound of an elux P/N but would like to hear the new one !

Post# 253577 , Reply# 187   10/23/2013 at 01:22 (3,810 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
New Info on scent chamber

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I have been calling Aerus for months about the scent chamber fragrances. I was told they were not in stock yet. I called Monday and was told they were not in yet and may not be stocked. I wrote Aerus telling them, that was one of the features I was looking forward to and that it was advertized on their website.....They wrote back saying they would not be carrying them. What a crock!!!!!!!!!!!!!They tried to tell me I could use something not oil based in the chamber and any oil would warp the chamber.....There is a youtube video of someone that tried something in theirs and it warped the scent chamber, don't know what they used but.......I have tried putting yum yum in the bag itself, since they are hard crystals, but the carbon filter behind the hepa stops most of the scent....Also tried a cotton ball thrown in the bag chamber with scent on it. Same thing.

They also are sending me 3 new bags which supposedly stopped the bag leakage, don't have them yet....I was under the imppression that I already had the new bags, even though they leak....Aerus needs to get their act together. I have always bought Electrolux products and this may be my last!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Needless to say, I am not happy....................


PR-21
Bud Mattingly


Post# 253591 , Reply# 188   10/23/2013 at 07:05 (3,809 days old) by gm1982 ()        
pr-21

I have had my issues with Aerus and customer service as well. Fact is they are not what they used to be (that coming from an Aerus 20 year salesperson that happens to be my friends father). They still haven't figured out how to market Aerus properly and continue to use ELELCTROLUX to market themselves. It's a dying sales model and many franchises continue to struggle in most parts of the country, even though they have introduced new model air purifiers and the Platinum canister.

The products, parts and service aren't readily available, developed properly or are convenient to find, unless you happen to know a reputable distributer.

The reality is the overall product quality does not = the asking price or final neg. price.


Post# 253681 , Reply# 189   10/23/2013 at 21:59 (3,809 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Hi, Daniel, can you give me some more info on the new power nozzle and put up a picture if you get a second. Thanks.

Never saw the scent chamber ever on the aerus Electrolux web site. Didn't even know about till I saw the video Daniel put on U tube.

Since Aerus/ lux gave me a new batch of bags I never had any problem with bag leakage.


Post# 253733 , Reply# 190   10/24/2013 at 06:35 (3,808 days old) by gm1982 ()        

•Aromatherapy Option is available on the right side exhaust vent for optional aroma scents.

Aerushome.com>surface>canisters>Platinum>filters and bags tab.


Post# 253828 , Reply# 191   10/24/2013 at 18:32 (3,808 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
These are for solid cartidges which Aerus refuses to stock..

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You cannot use an oil base product or it will warp the holder. This is per Aerus. Total bs that they will not stock these cartridge inserts. Tried to order from overseas, but since I don't read or write in a foreign language, it is useless..even though I found them on a website........

PR=21


Post# 253849 , Reply# 192   10/24/2013 at 22:41 (3,808 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I have a tip for all Platinum owners who wish to have a nice scent dispensed from the scent chamber. In the fabric softener aisle of the grocery store, there are new Gain wax beads, in different scents. I use 'original' and put about 10 in the scent chamber. It's a very nice scent, and it's OK for the machine. Plus, I have them for the laundry as well. Give them a try, you'll like it.

Post# 253913 , Reply# 193   10/25/2013 at 15:40 (3,807 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Great suggestion Tom,
Thanks
Mike


Post# 254175 , Reply# 194   10/27/2013 at 13:54 (3,805 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

That is disappointing about the cartridges. I had hoped they would contract with someone to make something especially for the scent compartment. I wonder if any of my ideas would work? How about soaking a strip of cloth in lemon juice and letting it totally dry and then sticking it in the scent cup? Someone on the internet said they cut up fabric softener sheets and put strips in there. What about that Scentsy product? It is hunks of wax, but of course it melts. Would the machine get hot enuff to melt the Scentsy cubes? I like the idea of a natural scent source but I don't see how anything would be safe other than what was designed for it. If a cotton ball will melt into it, what CAN you do?

Post# 254978 , Reply# 195   11/2/2013 at 22:48 (3,799 days old) by utahprideboy (Southern Utah)        
i Believe if a bunch of us do a

Group call to Aerus like in a 8 way call and tell them how we feel about wanting them to provide us with what we were promised, they might Start selling them over here < What are you thoughtS

Post# 255747 , Reply# 196   11/9/2013 at 15:34 (3,792 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
Any referrals for a reputable dealer? I'm ready to buy!

I'm unfamiliar with the dealers in the Houston TX area and I'm open to suggestions. I'm going to follow suit with what I've read some of you doing by asking for a "cash price" on the Platinum and I'm willing to pay shipping if necessary. I just need an honest reputable dealer to buy it from, someone who appreciates my business. When I bought things for my Rainbow, Ken Bashford in Austin TX was very fairly priced and great to work with. If any of you know of an Aerus dealer who possesses these qualities, please let me know.

Post# 255811 , Reply# 197   11/9/2013 at 20:31 (3,792 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        
Lux dealer

John ,
Sent you a pm


Post# 256730 , Reply# 198   11/17/2013 at 22:23 (3,784 days old) by Utahprideboy (Southern Utah)        
My new Guardian platinum with the reduced sound power nozzle

Here is my Aerus guardian platinum with a reduce sound power nozzle
This power nozzle is so much more quiet than the regular lux power nozzle, seems to clean better to


Post# 256899 , Reply# 199   11/19/2013 at 08:07 (3,782 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I ordered my Guardian Platinum yesterday.....can't wait to get it and try it out!

Gary


Post# 256942 , Reply# 200   11/19/2013 at 15:29 (3,782 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Great mChine Gary. Don is a good guy he will do you right

Post# 256943 , Reply# 201   11/19/2013 at 15:32 (3,782 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        
David

Did you order another machine or just buy the power head. ?
If the new power head is that good may have to order one


Post# 257142 , Reply# 202   11/21/2013 at 09:49 (3,780 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Closing this thread as it is getting quite long, here is Part 3...

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