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Post# 221648   3/3/2013 at 13:57 (4,064 days old) by brboy2014 ()        

I am interested in buying a USED or new vacuum, one that is not a lot of money.

I am interested in either a Hoover elite commercial, or a Hoover breathe easy type.

Would like a Sanitaire, but I need to know about the shake out bag, do they spew dust? Are they nasty?

Any feedback would help.

(I'm new)


Post# 221653 , Reply# 1   3/3/2013 at 15:15 (4,064 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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If you go Sanitaire I would suggest one that takes an F&G or ST bag setup. They are out there. I don't believe that the shake out bags spew too much, but shaking out the bag when its time will cause quite a storm.

If you're interested in a Sanitaire with shake out style you might be also be interested in a Hoover Professional Decade 800 styled machine. Same concept of fan first system but in a Hoover.

The Hoover Elites are great and clean well. All the above including the Elite come in a 12" width. The Hoover Breathe Easy is a slightly more powerful motor over the Elite and that is needed because its a 15" width.

Are attachments a consideration? Most of the above machines do not come with attachments as they're strictly marketed commercial new. You can find attachment sets for Hoover Decade 800/ Convertibles and adapt to bottom plate of Hoover Commercial Decade/ Guardsman/ Professional styles. Some Commercial Elites have attachments and some don't, it depends on model. The commercial Soft Guards would have attachment. Any residential previous sold model Elite or Breathe Easy would have attachments. eBay, your area Craiglslist or local thrift stores would be good bets to watch and check out for those.

Here's a few links

www.samsclub.com/sams/hoover-comm... Sam's Club exclusive Hoover Industrial Decade 800 styled machine with EZ empty dirt cup and headlight. $139

www.vcdiscounter.com/c1700.html... Hoover Commercial duty Breathe Easy. 15" width, no headlight $229

www.vcdiscounter.com/s670a.html... Sanitaire S670 blue line commercial/ residential. $300

www.abcvacuumwarehouse.com/hoover... Hoover Professional CH50020 Decade 800/ Guardsman style with headlight, 2 brush agitator, Hoover disposable Type A bag system $140

www.abcvacuumwarehouse.com/hoover... Hoover C1414-900 Elite style with onboard tool set, no headlight

www.abcvacuumwarehouse.com/sanita... Sanitaire ST bag system. Sanitaire SC888K no headlight,no tools $195

www.discountcleaningproducts.com/... Sanitaire SC688 paper bag disposal, no headlight, plastic hood, no tools

greenville.craigslist.org/for/364... Royal Commercial vac on Greensville, SC Craigslist, looks new $200

greenville.craigslist.org/hsh/357... Royal Heavy Duty on Greensville, SC Craigslist. Nice blue, looks to be very nice condition $75

greenville.craigslist.org/app/352... Hoover Breathe Easy Widepath listed in Craigslist ad. Looks like it may need attachments which are easy to order on eBay or local vac shop. Owner says repair may be needed. Could go check it out, probably new brush roll, belt, bag and filter which most any used vac would need anyway. $5 make offer

Hope all of this helps and best of luck! Let me or others know what you're thinking with all of this info which I realize is a lot to absorb. Curious of your input towards attachments, depending on that factor it could definitely sway your decision. Of course if you have a separate canister vacuum then attachnment use is taken care of with that.

I would also heavily recommend a trip to your local vac shop. See what refurbished machines they have and what new machines they have to offer towards Sanitaire, Hoover, Eureka Commercial. Riccar and Simplicity are great machines as well. Local vac shops tend to offer a warranty on their refurbed machines as well. I have a friend who is owner of Vacuums Etc in Columbia, SC. He can definitely help you out! His website is on the link below and he has some specials listed on his Facebook site. He may be willing to ship???? I would definitely contact him and see what he suggests/ recommends and if he ships. Feel free to mention me.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO Durango159's LINK


Post# 221654 , Reply# 2   3/3/2013 at 15:46 (4,064 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Here are some Hoover vacuums that I recommend:
hoover.com/products/details/c1631...
hoover.com/products/details/c1431...
hoover.com/products/details/c1414...
hoover.com/products/details/c1404...
hoover.com/products/details/ch300...
Here are some Eureka vacuums that I recommend:
www.sanitairevac.com/commercial/p...
www.sanitairevac.com/professional...
www.eureka.com/en-US/Vacuums/Upri...
www.sanitairevac.com/commercial/p...
www.grainger.com/Grainger/SANITAI...
Here are some Riccar vacuums that I recommend:
www.riccar.com/products/8-pound/Q...
www.riccar.com/products/specialty...
Here are some Simplicity vacuums that I recommend:
www.simplicityvac.com/products/up...
www.simplicityvac.com/products/ot...


Post# 221656 , Reply# 3   3/3/2013 at 15:52 (4,064 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

If I were you, I would buy the Eureka 1934B upright with the Eureka 60F attachment kit. I would also buy the ball bearing Vibra Groomer II Disturbulator for the Eureka 1934B upright. I hope this helps.


Post# 221657 , Reply# 4   3/3/2013 at 15:58 (4,064 days old) by brboy2014 ()        
Eureka 1934B

I have one of those, it's a good vacuum.

However, it's not fit for what I want to use it for.

Thank y'all for these suggestions, I'm looking now, keep them coming.




Post# 221659 , Reply# 5   3/3/2013 at 16:09 (4,064 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

How about a Sanitaire SC679J upright with the Eureka 60F attachment kit? I recommend buying the ball bearing Vibra Groomer II Disturbulator and the F&G outer bag assembly for the Sanitaire SC679J upright.


Post# 221663 , Reply# 6   3/3/2013 at 16:31 (4,064 days old) by brboy2014 ()        
The Carpet

Well, the carpet I will be cleaning, has absolutely no depth. It's just "flat" thick carpet.

And I'll be vacuuming pews. I think the Vibragroomer would do a great job on them. But, I need something to clean the backs of the pews.


Post# 221664 , Reply# 7   3/3/2013 at 16:35 (4,064 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

How about a Hoover Elite Commercial C1414 upright? It has onboard attachments.


Post# 221667 , Reply# 8   3/3/2013 at 16:57 (4,064 days old) by mieles7 (TX)        

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If it is just flat carpet I would recommend a used Oreck. Short carpet was what those vacuums were designed for, and I see the lower end models on Craigslist all the time for around $30 or $40. You could probably find a small canister for less than $50 for above floor cleaning.

Post# 221668 , Reply# 9   3/3/2013 at 17:02 (4,064 days old) by brboy2014 ()        

The C1414 is what I would love to have, little too pricey. I think I'll go with the Elite, w/o attatchements.

I don't care for Orecks, something about their sound has always turned me off.

If they still make Hoover shoulder-vac's I'm sure that'd be nice for above floor cleaning.


Post# 221674 , Reply# 10   3/3/2013 at 18:00 (4,064 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

How about a Hoover Elite Commercial C1404 upright with the Hoover PortaPower Commercial CH30000 straight suction canister?


Post# 221683 , Reply# 11   3/3/2013 at 19:03 (4,064 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)        
This Hoover Commercial...

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Model CH50020, looks to be an awesome buy at $139 delivered. Probably the best value i've seen if you need a standard vacuum.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK


Post# 221685 , Reply# 12   3/3/2013 at 19:21 (4,064 days old) by brboy2014 ()        

Is a 6.5 amp good? I know about vacuums, I just don't get the whole "amps" deal.

Post# 221689 , Reply# 13   3/3/2013 at 20:23 (4,064 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        
The Hoover Commerical Motor is Excellent!

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It's the same motor from the High-Performance Convertible days. Those vacuums are quiet and clean like a dream with a fresh bag and brush strips. I didn't realize Hoover was selling the new Guardsman at such a low price, and with HEPA filtration you can't go wrong.

Post# 221696 , Reply# 14   3/3/2013 at 21:13 (4,064 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Long story short:

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Amps is strictly amount of electricity used. You can't use that number for considering getting a vacuum. Years ago all of those upright vacuum cleaners with the cloth bags behind the handle cleaned carpets very very well and ran at about 4.5-6.5 Amps for the most part.

Then vacuums got cheaper made with a lot of plastic, designs were changed so that uprights became more user friendly with on board tools, and you wouldn't worry about breaking a fan so the clean air design came about. Somewhere in there the vacuum industry decided to fool all consumers and cheapen machines by running motors faster with smaller less efficient single fan motors. They've decided to full consumers into thinking that if you don't buy a 12Amp machine, you're not getting power. Well sorry to say but Amps is just a measure of electricity draw from the motor. It has no effect on agitation or suction otherwise known as air flow for cleaning.

Now your situation of cleaning pews, and flat, dense carpeted, it sounds like you're cleaning a church. I would suggest commercial grade since the vacuum will be working several times a week depending on all the different occasions held. I'm thinking 2 vacuums. One a good, durability upright, something thats easy to manuever. tools on board/ maybe/ maybe not. Would be a benefit if there was so incase you saw something along baseboards, you could quickly stop, grab it and keep going along. Or you could get a separate canister vac. This would have dusting and upholstery nozzle for cleaning your pews. Although, assuming that most pews are wood, I would recommend you using a rag with some Pledge and quickly wiping those pews, to add a little shine and remove finger prints rather than going over every inch with a vacuum dusting brush-- just a thought as it would be a time saver and more thorough.

I've recommended a few vacuums below but I strongly recommend you visit your local vacuum shop and tell them your situation and your budget. Try out a few machines and what would be best for your situation. If your church is dark and lot of people tend to drop pennys,other change, screws, etc. on the floor then a clean air design upright or a canister vacuum would be your best situation so you're not replacing broken fans.
For a good, sturdy well rounded straight carpet vac I would look at the Hoover CH50020. It's disposable bag, large bag capacity, will clean great and be reliable. Or a Sanitaire with disposable bag system. www.abcvacuumwarehouse.com/sanita...

For a canister vac for attachment use, I would recommend a Sanitaire S6383 or similar. It's a bigger bag, over the Hoover Portapower and has wheels and carry strip and in my opinion more suction over Hoover Portapower. I like the Hoover but with its smaller bag that loses suction very quick and no wheels, its just not near as convenient for use in a big place like a church. www.abcvacuumwarehouse.com/sanita...

For a single vac that's good all around with tools on board at the ready I would go a few options: Hoover Insight- similar to a Sebo but with a few nicer features and better cleaning hoover.com/products/details/ch501...

Panasonic www.abcvacuumwarehouse.com/panaso...

or most Riccars and Simplicitys. These machines are built great, most any would be good for your application as well.


Post# 221701 , Reply# 15   3/3/2013 at 21:33 (4,064 days old) by sanitaireboy99 ()        
Hoover Breath Easy Commercial

I thought that the commercial version of this vacuum was discontinued a long time ago?? Do you guys really think that the website that Durango159 posted actually has it in stock? Or they just haven't updated their website in a long time. It would be really cool if they still had it. I would buy it.

Post# 221702 , Reply# 16   3/3/2013 at 21:36 (4,064 days old) by nubz3760 ()        

I just checked the link. It does say "In Stock, usually ships same business day"


Post# 221703 , Reply# 17   3/3/2013 at 21:38 (4,064 days old) by sanitaireboy99 ()        

Yeah but what if they haven't updated their website in a long time?? Because that vacuum has been discontinued for a really long time already.

Post# 221705 , Reply# 18   3/3/2013 at 21:44 (4,064 days old) by sanitaireboy99 ()        

Also I was looking through the rest of their website and look at what else I found that they say they have in stock NEW. This is something that I really can't believe that they have in stock BRAND NEW.
www.vcdiscounter.com/7618at.html...


Post# 221707 , Reply# 19   3/3/2013 at 21:52 (4,064 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

By the way, Ebay/Craigslist has front conversion attachment sets for Hoover Convertibles/Decades/Guardsmans. A Hoover Convertible/Decade/Guardsman with the front conversion attachment set is cheaper than a Hoover Convertible/Decade/Guardsman with a separate straight suction canister! :)


Post# 221708 , Reply# 20   3/3/2013 at 21:59 (4,064 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Here ia a Hoover Convertible/Decade/Guardsman front conversion attachment set on Ebay:


CLICK HERE TO GO TO KirbyUltimateG's LINK on eBay


Post# 221744 , Reply# 21   3/4/2013 at 09:53 (4,063 days old) by brboy2014 ()        
Durango

Durango, the pews are padded. (Thank God) I vacuum once a week... Every Thursday.

I had a little hoover elite, but it got so darn dusty. Then I use a Royal Anniversary edition (Red). It honestly, is getting so annoying to use.

I took my good, newer everlast/anniversary edition up there, and it's nice, but it doesn't adjust too good.

I'm thinking of getting the bagged hoover, that looks like a decade 800 (which I used to own a commercial one).

If I ever get a Dirt Devil Stick vac again, Type K bag, I'll be set with the baseboards, and under the pews. We used one years, and years ago. (Like 12 years)

Thank y'all


Post# 221778 , Reply# 22   3/4/2013 at 14:20 (4,063 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Your welcome! Glad to help out!


Post# 221843 , Reply# 23   3/4/2013 at 21:20 (4,063 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
I only post from websites that I've purchased from in th

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If you have questions with anything on VCDiscounter.com then shoot them an email and see if its really in stock. I have made a few purchases from them over the years and have never had a problem. They are always revising their website and adding and removing machines and changing prices. Occasionally I do find machines on their that I believe are discontinued but they have a very large warehouse and I think they try to scour from other sources and sell others leftovers as well.

Like I said I've purchased a few machines from them myself to include my parents Hoover Steamvac Widepath F6030-900 and the Hoover Windtunnel Plus S3639 that used to be my profile picture. They're shipping is fast and reliable. I purposely posted from sources that I trust.

In addition to trusting VCDiscounter.com I also www.discountcleaningproducts.com... and www.abcvacuumwarehouse.com... as sources that I buy from most often when I need something.


Post# 222039 , Reply# 24   3/5/2013 at 21:46 (4,062 days old) by sanitaireboy99 ()        

Ok. Thanks for the link :)

Post# 222085 , Reply# 25   3/6/2013 at 04:26 (4,062 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Or U can go for a rebuilt Lux or TriStar; you'll have more flexibility getting under furniture & more powerful suction for all vacing needs.

Post# 222251 , Reply# 26   3/7/2013 at 00:07 (4,061 days old) by tomamal ()        
Vacuum cleaner to buy

I feel you should be aware of your requirements before you decide on the type of vacuum to buy. Size of your house, type of flooring, number of members, if there are pets etc. Uprights are better suited for carpets and canisters are better on tiles or hardwood flooring. If you have pets, find a vacuum that has good suction power. always look for a vacuum that has good filtration system to avoid health and allergy problems.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO tomamal's LINK


Post# 222316 , Reply# 27   3/7/2013 at 10:40 (4,060 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
How is the suction ...

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... on the Hoover Guardsman through the attachments?

Post# 222880 , Reply# 28   3/10/2013 at 10:33 (4,057 days old) by xraytech ()        

Matt,
The suction with attachments on a guardsman is like a convertible, thus it has fairly weak suction that is only good for dusting and maybe light surface cleaning.

Sam



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