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Post# 220495   2/23/2013 at 17:09 (4,051 days old) by isufan11 (Minneapolis )        

Looking around this morning and saw that the new Oreck bag-less is available

www.oreck.com/touch-bagless-vacuu...


Post# 220501 , Reply# 1   2/23/2013 at 17:20 (4,051 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Neat

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looking now they finally have a bagless they have now joined the rest I hope its a sucess .

Post# 220528 , Reply# 2   2/23/2013 at 20:45 (4,051 days old) by joshdonnell ()        
Hey

The link doesnt work:/

Post# 220711 , Reply# 3   2/25/2013 at 07:38 (4,049 days old) by isufan11 (Minneapolis )        

Sorry, her is the link again.
I noticed that it won the VDTA Best New Product Award


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Post# 220714 , Reply# 4   2/25/2013 at 08:05 (4,049 days old) by GM1982 ()        

Looks cool, I bet its made in China...doubt it has features like safety brush roll off, if you accidentally suck up a sock. Bagless :-/

Post# 220723 , Reply# 5   2/25/2013 at 10:21 (4,049 days old) by tylerawells (-)        

I have a bagged Oreck, and I've been pretty happy with it, specifically the Graphite. This just looks like they're trying to appeal to unedcuated consumers who think bagless is better.

Post# 220729 , Reply# 6   2/25/2013 at 11:01 (4,049 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

god thats ugly

Post# 220737 , Reply# 7   2/25/2013 at 11:38 (4,049 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
George

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it does have the brushroll off safety feature just like the Magnesium does.
It is made in China but if sales go well they could build it here in the USA.

Dan


Post# 220750 , Reply# 8   2/25/2013 at 13:03 (4,049 days old) by GM1982 ()        

Good to know, there is limited information so I was assuming based on the other uprights.

Post# 220778 , Reply# 9   2/25/2013 at 16:21 (4,049 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

What I find utterly ridiculous with the design of this cleaner is the two loops on either side of the cleaning head. What is the purpose of those? If they didn't exist, the cleaning head would go under even more furniture. At least that's how it looks.

Post# 220784 , Reply# 10   2/25/2013 at 16:50 (4,049 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
The

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head is 2 inches high I say thats low enough and it gets under VERY low and tight spots ...


Post# 220792 , Reply# 11   2/25/2013 at 17:20 (4,049 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

At the front, yes, but the sides are high which means the head surely can't go too far under?

Post# 220800 , Reply# 12   2/25/2013 at 19:01 (4,049 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Does it have full sized tools or those pathetic "all-in-one" combination crevice/dusting tools?


Post# 220801 , Reply# 13   2/25/2013 at 19:35 (4,049 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
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I'm sorry but you are wrong the sides are 3 inches high the front is 1.5 inches high .
I own the magnesium and it is the same nozzle .

Dan




This post was last edited 02/25/2013 at 20:13
Post# 220851 , Reply# 14   2/26/2013 at 03:07 (4,049 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Hello Dan. If the sides are 3" and the front is 1.5", then I can only be right that the sides are higher than the front. Now, I realise that 3" is still an incredibly low size, but what I am meaning is that from the pictures those plastic loops on the side don't seem to do anything. So without them the cleaning head would be lower still.

Post# 220855 , Reply# 15   2/26/2013 at 06:44 (4,049 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Benny

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It is still one of the lowest heads on a vacuum . Try to get a Dyson head or a Kirby head under a low object . They are part of the design and the head would look stupid with out them . It has won awards over its design so they are doing something right .

Dan


Post# 220858 , Reply# 16   2/26/2013 at 07:47 (4,048 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        
As my Daddy would say

You can't please some people if you hung them with a new rope.


Post# 220878 , Reply# 17   2/26/2013 at 11:28 (4,048 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
I love that

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Harley thanks for that it is so true !


Post# 220900 , Reply# 18   2/26/2013 at 14:58 (4,048 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Oh we say that over here too. It is very true. I do like the comment that the cleaner would look stupid without the side loops. Every bagless cleaner looks hideous to me as it's so different from what I am used to.

Post# 220996 , Reply# 19   2/27/2013 at 12:57 (4,047 days old) by isufan11 (Minneapolis )        

Here is the press release at the IHA

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Post# 221004 , Reply# 20   2/27/2013 at 13:44 (4,047 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
looks

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interesting thanks for the video .

Post# 221007 , Reply# 21   2/27/2013 at 14:08 (4,047 days old) by reo580 (Holland, Michigan)        

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I could never get over the sound. That thing is a screamer!
I wonder what kind of belt it has for the roller brush.


Post# 221029 , Reply# 22   2/27/2013 at 16:43 (4,047 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well at least it HAS a hose built in. I rather like the look of it and it swivels too!

Post# 221039 , Reply# 23   2/27/2013 at 17:38 (4,047 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        
Is Oreck under new management?

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Many of their recent products go directly against their well established philosophy of simplicity. Two bagless uprights(both with bypass motors), HEPA air purifiers, and foreign made, sometimes outsourced products. Selling uprights at Target must be hurting the dealers. What's going on?

Post# 221046 , Reply# 24   2/27/2013 at 18:28 (4,047 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

BagInTheBack, Tom Oreck stepped down as the CEO of Oreck back in 2010. Doug Cahill replaced Tom in 2010.


Post# 221047 , Reply# 25   2/27/2013 at 18:30 (4,047 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

It's a crying shame that Tom Oreck stepped down as the CEO of Oreck.


Post# 221051 , Reply# 26   2/27/2013 at 18:58 (4,047 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)        
new basic vacuum questions for vac shoppers:

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Cannister or upright, bag or bagless, swivel steering or regular? I have to say i have become rather fond of my Electrolux Nimble & the steering is a big part, that & the quiet operation. Now about those pesky, weak cheap plastic nibs waiting to break off when you disassemble the dirt cup for cleaning...

Hmmm don't know about the grayness of this Oreck though. Looking for a Pilot that needs some TLC to get my swivel on Oreck style....


Post# 221054 , Reply# 27   2/27/2013 at 19:48 (4,047 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I tried to get on with the Nimble in a shop I tried one in but it seems I couldn't get it to clean flat to the floor - that's where my Felix seems to do better in as well as just feeling a lot better made. The Nimble is very stylish though - I wish Hoover's UK/European neighbouring products were just as easy on the eye.

Post# 221087 , Reply# 28   2/28/2013 at 08:26 (4,046 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Oreck noise levels...

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I don't think either vacuum in that video link is noisy - not if you have a Hoover Windtunnel Air or Vax Mach Air. A lot of bagless vacuums are these days but it doesn't sound too much of a "screamer" to me.

I like the idea of the Versa Vac. If Oreck can get that to the UK they'll probably have good product on their hands. I just fear that as usual with Oreck UK, we'll have to wait several years for these new products to arrive unless the U.S company get their finger out and do a worldwide launch.


Post# 221138 , Reply# 29   2/28/2013 at 14:05 (4,046 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)        

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I quiet like this hope it comes to the UK! the emptying mechanism on the dirt bin is a great idea!

Post# 221154 , Reply# 30   2/28/2013 at 15:52 (4,046 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
I got to try one out,

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and it's not all that bad!

It's nice that it swivels, And has excellent cyclonic action. The hose is there for quick and easy reach, and appears to groom and clean nicely.
While the motor is on the "Loud" side, I find it to be more tolerable than that of an XL2.

Just my 2 cents.
-Alex.


Post# 221155 , Reply# 31   2/28/2013 at 15:53 (4,046 days old) by MadaboutSEBO (Midlands, UK)        

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Hello all

I'm new to this forum!

I can see why Oreck have gone down the bagless route as that seems to be the most popular choice for the consumer these days! Oreck want a share of this market!

I've gone back to a bagged vacuums after years of using bagless and for me thinking bagless was better I've personally find this not necessary to be the case! I don't really miss the emptying and cleaning the messy bin out and washing the filters!


Post# 221157 , Reply# 32   2/28/2013 at 16:04 (4,046 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Hi Jon,

 

Welcome to the forum :). Nice to see another Sebo fan around. 

 

RE: Oreck. What complete hypocrites!! Remember those "bagless is a dirty word" infomercials? Bloody sell outs! I really cannot stand the company. The vacuum wasn't even David Oreck's original idea or design! And I've never been impressed with the performance of the cleaners either. Completely over-rated. 


Post# 221158 , Reply# 33   2/28/2013 at 16:08 (4,046 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Just an FYI, these are sold in a shop in the UK called Poundstretcher for £24.99. 



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Post# 221159 , Reply# 34   2/28/2013 at 16:10 (4,046 days old) by MadaboutSEBO (Midlands, UK)        

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Hi Chris

Thank you :)


Post# 221161 , Reply# 35   2/28/2013 at 16:37 (4,046 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
Market Share

I think it's just a case that someone at Oreck thinks their core design is not what people want. As I understand it, a good deal of people still want a bagged cleaner. As for that Oreck Hero, what can I say. I've seen similar on the shelves of Tesco.

Post# 221197 , Reply# 36   2/28/2013 at 19:24 (4,046 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Hi Jon - great to see another Sebo fan! I second that welcome too!

Or it could well be that Oreck are realising that there are other U.S companies who are offering the similar kind of upright, cue Simplicity etc. Oreck need another product that is going to bring in sales. Also I see the UK have finally got a new cylinder vacuum in by Oreck, called the Quest.


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Post# 221891 , Reply# 37   3/5/2013 at 04:36 (4,042 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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And yet another manufacturer has deviated from the design which made them so successful.

What next, Numatic?


Post# 221895 , Reply# 38   3/5/2013 at 06:40 (4,042 days old) by vacuummorgan (Chagford Devon England )        

I really want one but I don't think you can get them in the uk


Post# 221899 , Reply# 39   3/5/2013 at 07:26 (4,041 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Funnily enough I phoned Oreck UK yesterday and they say it hasn't been released "yet to the UK," which is a possibility that it may well come here eventually.

Post# 221909 , Reply# 40   3/5/2013 at 09:01 (4,041 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Jamie - it is hard to deviate from one original model unless you're a big corporation who doesn't worry about making a loss. I know what you are saying, but when you're an appliance brand, it is hard to just keep producing the same formula and wrapping it up in a new body time after time. Effectively this is what SEBO did with their X1 Automatic, morphing it into their X1.1 and X4 with a few updates here and there - but like Numatic, SEBO also produce other machines to widen their appeal to customers.

To be fair, Oreck in the UK at least have stuck to their guns in making bagged vacuums with the only exception being the odd Chinese cordless dust buster or that awful cordless Elecktricbroom/Starlyf cyclonic vac they had in the UK for a short while. Im not a fan of Oreck but I do like some of their design ideas - their brush rolls are second to none and they lack beater bars.

The new Touch upright has me interested though - it could well be a return to Oreck in the future.


Post# 221975 , Reply# 41   3/5/2013 at 15:42 (4,041 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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Hi Ryan

Thank you, nice to know there is other SEBO fans here!


Post# 222100 , Reply# 42   3/6/2013 at 08:55 (4,040 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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No problem Jon. I've always adored SEBO since my parents took on my uncle's X1 14 years ago; prior to that I was a big Hoover fan of the old classic uprights and the Turbopower 2 and 3 series. Good to share info, ideas and whatever!



Post# 222221 , Reply# 43   3/6/2013 at 21:44 (4,040 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)        

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Normally, I don't like change and most of the vacuums that I love are old styled. But I have to say that I DO like this new Oreck. It looks VERY stylish, sleek and just kinda fun. I'm sure that my Kirbys will out clean it, but I just looks fun. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to find one in a pawn shop or thrift store one day, unless someone wants to buy one for me (hint, hint). No? Oh, well. It never hurts to ask.
Justin


Post# 231518 , Reply# 44   5/6/2013 at 18:56 (3,979 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        
As someone said in an Amazon review,

If you want an Oreck, buy it now while the old mans still alive!


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