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My New Aerus Guardian Ultra |
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| Post# 219479 2/17/2013 at 12:41 (4,084 days old) by danorob1 (Central New Jersey) | ||
Hello All,
After going back and forth, and decided to hold out for a year until all the revisions to the Guardian Platinum are worked out.. i.e., power nozzle running with machine turned off... and what ever other little things come up during the first few months of real in home usage... The Local Dealer made me a deal on a Guardian Ultra that I just could not refuse... The Machine, Extra HEPA Filter, 24 Bags, 24 clean sweep chips, and a Green HPO BrushRoll... I promised him I would never reveal the price, but all I can say is that I spent SLIGHTLY more then I would have spent going to Sears and Buying their top of the line canister at full price... The deal was too good to pass up.... I also wanted the lightest canister that they had to offer, and this was it... If you look you will notice that the most recent version of the Ultra now has the AERUS name on the back of the bumper in silver/grey... not in the middle like the version showed in Dan's set comparing the new to the old... The dealer was showing me that under the HEPA filter, you can see that they added foam that wraps around the motor casing to make it a little more quiet... And I have to say that it is not all that loud.. Much Better then I expected... Now a question for Dan - I know you have two of these - I have to assume since I know you purchase all off the high end models, Will the dusting brush from the Renny/guardian/Epic 8000 fit into the handle of this Ultra? If it does, then I want to order a white Renny/Guardian/Epic 8000 dusting brush as I like the oval/rectangular brush a little better then the round version... Plus I hate that Adapter... If it does not fit, I know I can buy the Black one from the Tri-Star since the hose and wands are the exact same thing, except in Black.. Here are a few pictures ( no that we do not all know what it looks like !!!) Dan P. 
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| Post# 219480 , Reply# 1 2/17/2013 at 12:42 (4,084 days old) by danorob1 (Central New Jersey) | ||
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| Post# 219481 , Reply# 2 2/17/2013 at 12:43 (4,084 days old) by danorob1 (Central New Jersey) | ||
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| Post# 219482 , Reply# 3 2/17/2013 at 12:44 (4,084 days old) by danorob1 (Central New Jersey) | ||
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| Post# 219483 , Reply# 4 2/17/2013 at 12:45 (4,084 days old) by danorob1 (Central New Jersey) | ||
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| Post# 219484 , Reply# 5 2/17/2013 at 12:48 (4,084 days old) by danorob1 (Central New Jersey) | ||
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| Post# 219485 , Reply# 6 2/17/2013 at 12:53 (4,084 days old) by GM1982 () | ||
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I think when you save them to the computer you need to rotate the uploaded picture 90 degrees. This happens with most iphones I think... nice vacuum though! | ||
| Post# 219488 , Reply# 7 2/17/2013 at 13:38 (4,084 days old) by danorob1 (Central New Jersey) | ||
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| Post# 219489 , Reply# 8 2/17/2013 at 13:47 (4,084 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Danorob1 | ||
| Post# 219490 , Reply# 9 2/17/2013 at 13:50 (4,084 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
Dan ,
Congratulations on your purchase . I love my Ultra at first I wasn`t sure I thought it was a glorified classic but I was soooo wrong . This machine really cleans my first bag I completley forgot about it and when the light finally came on it weighed a ton . It was full and the suction or airflow never diminished .
The dusting brush from the Tri Star will work since the grip is from Tri Star . I use the one from my MG3 and it works fine . Very smart for waiting on the Platinum I am a little ticked that they are still improving it and should have waited but when I see a new machine I have to have it . I will be buying another Platinum just like I bought the improved Ultra . I never thought it was a noisey vacuum I bought the first one as soon as it was introduced . What part of NJ do you live ? I am close to Margate , Ventnor , Longport and AC . I own a home in Egg Harbor Twp and an Ocean front condo in AC . I see you like white carpets too it must be a Dan thing as I know 3 other Dans and we all have white carpets nice room . Dan | ||
| Post# 219495 , Reply# 10 2/17/2013 at 14:02 (4,084 days old) by danorob1 (Central New Jersey) | ||
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To Rob -
No - The Green HPO Brushroll has not been made for years - He had one laying in the parts room, and was shocked that I even knew what it was, and that it existed - Hence why he gave it to me... To Dan - Thank you for confirming the Tri-Star Brush.. I will have to stop by Aerus tomorrow and see if Tony has an old Guardian Brush around that I can try - I do not think it will fit since it seems the Tri-Star/Ultra/Platinum wands are of a different design then the earlier plastic wands... Like I said - I did want to get the Platinum, but the Power Nozzle issue bothered me - I usually get a new toy one or twice a year, so I will hang onto this for a year, then get the Platinum in the next 12-months... I am in South Plainfield - Central Jersey - About Two hours time from my door to the Borgata via the parkway - I will not even go into the White Rugs... They are still White after 20 years, but I can not tell you how many carpet cleaners I have worn out to keep them that way... That is why we purchased the Rug Doctor - Does a great job for only a little money... Dan P. Side Note for Fred - If you get a chance, can you tell me what I did that may have been against the rules as I noticed the Picture #5 was marked as Deleted by Webmaster... | ||
| Post# 219496 , Reply# 11 2/17/2013 at 14:13 (4,084 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Dan
The Aerus Guardian tools won`t work on the Ultra or Platinum .
I only use the Aerus Floor Pro to keep my White rugs clean it even removed red wine . Plus only using high end vacuums really help keep em clean . I have to try and wait a bit when a new Vacuum is released instead of buying them as soon as they come out . My sales people have me on speed dial and I usually purchase as soon as I get a call . Dan | ||
| Post# 219500 , Reply# 12 2/17/2013 at 15:43 (4,084 days old) by luxman107 (USA ) | ||
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Great machine you got Dan as with all the aerus lux products you can't go wrong. What I still love about aerus lux is the occasional service I do need or if I need supplies, they still come to my home.. | ||
| Post# 219508 , Reply# 13 2/17/2013 at 16:17 (4,084 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH) | ||
Just as a note.....
The Lux Guardian Platinum I have came with a much stiffer brush roll than was in the Lux Guardian Ultra. It grooms my carpet much better than the Ultra one. Since the green one is now discontinued and I thought it was because the power nozzle motor could not handle the load....this may be a great replacement in the future.
PR-21 | ||
Post# 219530 , Reply# 14 2/17/2013 at 19:10 (4,084 days old) by KirbyUltimateG  (Troy Ohio 45373 USA) |
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Congrats! Enjoy! | ||
| Post# 219540 , Reply# 15 2/17/2013 at 19:52 (4,084 days old) by vacman1961 (North Babylon, New York) | ||
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I have that brush roll in my PN6 which I use on my VacuFlo 766 central vacuum, it grooms my carpet beautifully, nice deep heavy lines in it, I am trying to locate another one for my upstairs power nozzle. | ||
| Post# 219607 , Reply# 17 2/18/2013 at 07:58 (4,084 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. ) | ||
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@electromatik, see Reply #3 from funeraldirector in the link. He mentions the difference between the two brush rolls. CLICK HERE TO GO TO cue003's LINK | ||
| Post# 219611 , Reply# 18 2/18/2013 at 08:55 (4,084 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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Wonder what it is that makes it better at dirt removal? | ||
| Post# 219634 , Reply# 20 2/18/2013 at 12:08 (4,083 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. ) | ||
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@utahprideboy, thanks for the clarification on the brush roll. | ||
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Post# 219666 , Reply# 21 2/18/2013 at 15:50 (4,083 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA) |
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I have a question. Would the PN brushroll with the green bristles work on the uprights? Thanks. | ||
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Post# 219667 , Reply# 22 2/18/2013 at 15:51 (4,083 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA) |
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When will Aerus Electrolux come out with a self propelled upright to compete with Kirby and Hoover? Aerus Electrolux already has a 8 pound upright to compete with Oreck and Riccar and Simplicity. Thanks. | ||
| Post# 219742 , Reply# 26 2/19/2013 at 01:18 (4,083 days old) by utahprideboy (Southern Utah) | ||
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Brian thanks for letting me know! thanks for your research, i will let this go and hope the best for others out there. i have smoked a 1.2 amp motor with the green brushes and for me i will stick with the double helix! | ||
| Post# 219808 , Reply# 29 2/19/2013 at 17:18 (4,082 days old) by danorob1 (Central New Jersey) | ||
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OK - So if you look at the images at the start of my post, you will see that the carpet is a very high quality carpet, that is so tightly packed, that it is almost impossible to really pull the fibers apart to get to the carpet backing...
From the standpoint of vacuuming it, I would usually have to set any adjustable power nozzle or upright head on the lowest setting or they did not really do anything... It is almost like you are vacuuming flat office carpet without padding... So - For the Final Verdict - Do you think I would have any issues using the green brush roll ??? I am thinking the answer would be no, but am a little nervous after following all the replies... Thanks, Dan P. | ||
| Post# 220042 , Reply# 32 2/20/2013 at 23:37 (4,081 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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Can I use the DriLux (DriStar) (blue or white bristles) brush roller on a Lux or A101 TriStar PN? It seems like the more bristles, the better grooming of carpet; like as if I was using a pile lifter. | ||
| Post# 220912 , Reply# 33 2/26/2013 at 16:51 (4,075 days old) by danorob1 (Central New Jersey) | ||
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So.... The Day I picked up the Guardian Ultra, I ordered three boxes of the Perfect HEPA bags from Amazon... Due to an error on their part, they shipped Envirocare bags, and not the Perfect HEPA Bags...
So I had to Vacuum using the Aerus Blue bag that was in the vacuum when I purchased it... Guess What... When the correct Perfect HEPA bags finally came yesterday, and I took out the Aerus Blue bag, the Bottom of the bag where the dark blue paper strip is, was covered in dust over where the motor intake port is... So it is clear that the problem is not just with the Bags in the Guardian Platinum, but I think Aerus has an issue with their bags as a whole... In the Two years that I had used the Perfect Metal Canister with the Perfect HEPA Bags, there was NEVER a trace of dust in the bag chamber - (I used to wipe it with a Black Cloth just to check)... When I wiped the Chamber of the my Guardian Ultra, there was a coating of dust in it already after only vacuuming three times... Mostly in the lower part of the chamber... I will stop by Aerus tomorrow to check out the floor models and see how dirty the bag chambers are in the demo models... I am really glad now that I stayed with the Ultra for now until this is resolved... I would not use any bag other then the Perfect HEPA bags now... Dan P. | ||
| Post# 220917 , Reply# 34 2/26/2013 at 17:39 (4,075 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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I own two
Guardian Ultras and I just took out my full bag I have used this machine for two years and purchased my bags when I bought the machine. I buy the 100 pack of the genuine Aerus blue bags . I took a black cotton cloth and wiped inside my 2 year old Ultras bag chamber and the cloth came out clean zero dust trace inside . I wonder if Areus has changed how they make their bags compared to my two year old bags . I also buy my bags for my uprights by the 100 pack and that was also two years ago . I checked my upright also and it's dust free also .
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| Post# 220942 , Reply# 35 2/26/2013 at 22:52 (4,075 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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This is just so surprising... The bags are tested to filter 97% of .5 microns and 94% of .3 microns. I don't see how that much could get thru. Could it be coming from outside the bag as the air swirls around the bag? | ||
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Post# 221652 , Reply# 38 3/3/2013 at 15:06 (4,070 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA) |
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Erik, I recommend using the DriLux/DriStar only for shampooing carpets/rugs with Capture/Host. I recommend the HPO brushroll with green bristles and the Vibra Groomer III Disturbulator. I recommend using the Electrolux B8 with the naplifters or using the Kirby Classic with the carpet fluffer/floor polisher attachment. Rob | ||
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Post# 221720 , Reply# 40 3/4/2013 at 00:48 (4,070 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA) |
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I would get the brushroll with the blue bristles and get the brushroll with the green bristles. That way, You could see which brushroll works better. | ||
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Post# 221811 , Reply# 41 3/4/2013 at 19:11 (4,069 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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Post# 221827 , Reply# 42 3/4/2013 at 20:25 (4,069 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA) |
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BagInTheBack, I would get the beaterbar with the green bristles and get the beaterbar with the blue bristles. That way, You could see which beaterbar works better. Rob | ||
| Post# 221836 , Reply# 44 3/4/2013 at 20:53 (4,069 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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Post# 221987 , Reply# 45 3/5/2013 at 16:52 (4,068 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA) |
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To everybody who owns Aerus Electrolux vacuum cleaners, I strongly recommend using Perfect HEPA cloth disposable bags over using Aerus Electrolux paper disposable bags. The cloth disposable bags are much better than the paper disposable bags. Thank you. | ||
| Post# 221994 , Reply# 46 3/5/2013 at 17:50 (4,068 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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CAUTION: Using any other bag in your Aerus/Electrolux machine will VOID your warranty. There is no legal way to tell whether Chinese made bags truly meet the Department of Energy's regulation. There is no U.S. law that says something defined as "HEPA" meets the standard they impose. Aerus/Electrolux has always been strict on this point due to the high quality bags they use. | ||
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Post# 222002 , Reply# 47 3/5/2013 at 18:17 (4,068 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA) |
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I thought the Perfect PN canister vacuum is a copy of the Aerus Electrolux PN canister vacuum. Am I correct? | ||
| Post# 222012 , Reply# 49 3/5/2013 at 19:17 (4,068 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Just like | ||
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Post# 222240 , Reply# 52 3/6/2013 at 23:22 (4,067 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA) |
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You might want to order the brushroll for the Perfect PN canister. I heard this beaterbar has stiff bristles. | ||
| Post# 222714 , Reply# 53 3/9/2013 at 08:40 (4,065 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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Does the Lux Classic or Legacy clean as good as the Guardian Ultra or Guardian Platinum? I may be buying a new Lux soon. | ||
| Post# 222782 , Reply# 55 3/9/2013 at 15:57 (4,064 days old) by luxman107 (USA ) | ||
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Cliff is right on. All clean well and are exceptional machines, but it comes down to features and filtration that separate them. You won't go wrong with any of them. I have them all except the ultra. | ||
| Post# 222876 , Reply# 56 3/10/2013 at 09:44 (4,064 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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Will my Electrolux PN6 (Marquis-era) work OK if I put on the green bristle HPO brush roller? Or would the green bristle HPO brush roller ruin the PN motor? 
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| Post# 222903 , Reply# 57 3/10/2013 at 13:45 (4,063 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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Underside of Electrolux PN6 (Marquis-era) with double-helix brush roller. I use this PN with the older Electrolux canister vacuums (G, L, 1205 & Super J) instead of the older PNs (PN1, PN2 & PN4) Those double-helix brush rollers greatly improve cleaning performance on the older Electrolux vacs! 
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| Post# 222970 , Reply# 58 3/10/2013 at 18:32 (4,063 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York) | ||
@floor-a-matic- Brush Roll
I have no experience using the green brush roll but it was only available for a very short time before being discontinued. I've been using Electrolux vacuums for more than 20 years and in every Electrolux/Aerus machine I currently own I have replaced the brush roll with the latest style. Attached is a link to Totalvac.com which stocks the genuine Electrolux/Aerus brush roll and its only $11. I've probably purchased about 5 of these in the last 2 years and I love them! About 6 years ago I found an Epic 6000 canister sitting by the curb late at night while I was going to pick up a friend to go out for drinks. On my way home at 2am it was still there, so I grabbed from the curb and took it home only to realize the only problem was its hose had a clog. I decied to replace the brush roll, belt and it needed a headlight too, so I went to my Aerus dealer that is within 5 minutes from my house and I walked out of there spending around $60-70 on those three parts. The link is of the latest style genuine brush roll and in my opinion the best one they have made yet. Its extra turn of bristles really improves performance, and even if you dont love it, for only $11 its not a big loss. I think you would be very satisfied with it, and its not going to be overly aggresive on your carpets like the green bristle brush roll.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO bimmer740's LINK | ||
| Post# 223003 , Reply# 59 3/10/2013 at 22:55 (4,063 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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These Aerus threads aren't very active anymore and I miss them. I wish someone would make a video showing the updated Ultra compared to the old. That would be great. | ||
| Post# 225785 , Reply# 63 3/31/2013 at 06:39 (4,043 days old) by funeraldirector (Boston) | ||
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2.1 amp motor Erik, The motor you are looking for has a green field. Go down to your local lux branch and find a used one. The power nozzle you are looking for will have a black circuit breaker. I am sure there are some new motors around if you get the part number. Brian | ||
| Post# 225986 , Reply# 64 4/1/2013 at 16:31 (4,041 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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How does the Guardian Ultra & Guardian Platinum work with the green bristle HPO brush roller? Are the PN motors still working good? I still haven't decided on which other machine to buy with the Guardian Platinum & either the Classic or Legacy. This post was last edited 04/01/2013 at 17:48 | ||
| Post# 225992 , Reply# 65 4/1/2013 at 16:52 (4,041 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Erik You seem | ||
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