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Post# 213750   1/12/2013 at 11:55 (4,120 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        

I always start with the heavy carpets. Love the LED lights they are using now and the lighted water basin

Post# 213753 , Reply# 1   1/12/2013 at 11:58 (4,120 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Next move to the hardwood floors. This machine comes with the floor brush and it stores on the machine. I prefer it to using the power nozzle.

Post# 213755 , Reply# 2   1/12/2013 at 12:05 (4,120 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Now the hard stuff-cleaning the dried mud and salt from the garage floor. This is where my other high end bagged machines clog and you lose the air flow and suction in about 2 swipes of the wand.
I have been using my old Rainbow SE for this for years and years and it is still clean as ever. I do change the water every 20 minutes.


Post# 213756 , Reply# 3   1/12/2013 at 12:09 (4,120 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Now I move back inside and scrub the floors. Just replace the bottom electric wand with the floor squeegee and when you finish no mess-just suck up the remaining water from the bottle into the Rainbow stainless wands and it cleans the hose and wands like new every time. Nothing to clean up but empty and rinse the water basin.

Post# 213757 , Reply# 4   1/12/2013 at 12:16 (4,120 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Look at the stuff that came off the garage floor.
I just love the fact that there are no bags to buy and my hepa filter has been in almost 2 years and still as white as new. The ONLY thing to remember with the Rainbow is to change the water every 30 minutes. I always start with a clean,sanitary mahine every time and you never have to store filth in a closet week to week.
That's about enough cleaning for one day!


Post# 213760 , Reply# 5   1/12/2013 at 12:25 (4,120 days old) by joshdonnell ()        
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Its doesnt borther me at all storing filth at all . Its in a bag so its ok with me

Post# 213763 , Reply# 6   1/12/2013 at 12:29 (4,120 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Aaaaaahhhh I'm at war with myself. I want the new Aerus Platinum but every time I see this I want it all over again. I love it's attachments. Your carpets look so clean! My mother has almost that same color. Hers is more like a light sand color, only ever been vacuumed with a Kirby.

Post# 213768 , Reply# 7   1/12/2013 at 12:45 (4,120 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
I love mine

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I just wish I wasnt so lazy and stuck to using just it . It`s kinda hard owning Kirby and Aerus I tend to use them more .

Post# 213771 , Reply# 8   1/12/2013 at 13:09 (4,120 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Dan,
I know what you are saying. I used a Kirby for many years but it got too cumbersome and was giving me problems with the allergies. I just have found that I have less dust in the house with the Rainbow. The Rainbow is NOT the right vacuum for everyone. I was a hard sell case but Ken Bashford sold me on the new machine. You have to use the Rainbow ALL THE TIME to see and feel the benefits if you have allergies and it sure helped me. I had a Rainbow SE for many years, but I found it too difficult to use and too many parts. It never gave me any problems or repairs over the years. Even some of the most expensive other makes I have used-the second you turn them on-you smell dust and a foul odor.





Post# 213776 , Reply# 9   1/12/2013 at 13:37 (4,120 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Hey Rob

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Good to hear from you. Rainbow still looks great.......

I LOVE mine. I also love my epic6500.....But I still wouldn't want to be without my Rainbow. It's hard to describe to anyone the different kind of clean the house feels like after using one as opposed to a typical vacuum, even though typical vacuums are doing their job, but I don't think as well. It's a different level.


Post# 213779 , Reply# 10   1/12/2013 at 14:51 (4,120 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Mark,
It HAS been a long time since we have talked. I sure like the looks of Dan's new LUX. I have NOT babied my Rainbow in any way. I do ALWAYS empty the basin and watch the separator and clean when it needs it (like after doing that horrible job in the garage).
I had the SAME experience you did when I checked my hepa filter. I bought a replacement as I am nearing 2 years and my old one is still perfectly clean.
I think the secret is just changing the water after about 30 minutes.
You can wipe the inside of even my old machine and the exhaust is as clean as new after all those years.
The house actually smells better when you finish.
I noticed after I had been using ONLY my Rainbow for at least 6 months the total dust level in the house decreased and I do not have to clean the separator that often after I got a lot of the dust removed that I had been busy redistributing over and over again.


Post# 213832 , Reply# 11   1/13/2013 at 00:16 (4,120 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Yes

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But you're right. This is definitely not the vacuum for everyone.

Post# 213834 , Reply# 12   1/13/2013 at 00:39 (4,120 days old) by motojoejo (MO)        

I confess to being lazy and using my Kirby Heritage II with hepa bag installed for the past month. My allergies have been going crazy so I finally brought out my Rainbow SE PN2 and cleaned the entire house. After 15 mins of use my allergies quit. I've been toying with the idea of buying the new Rainbow but the old is still working great so I'll wait, dream and drool over the new one.

Post# 213969 , Reply# 13   1/13/2013 at 21:46 (4,119 days old) by chris (WV)        

Holy sh** I can't imagine using my rainbow in my garage. I am very particular as to what goes into it. I can't believe you have to change the water every 30 minutes. I vacuum my whole house and never dump the water until I am completely done and the inside of the rainbow and the filter are as clean as the day I bought it of course my water is only slightly cloudy when I'm done

Post# 214006 , Reply# 14   1/14/2013 at 07:56 (4,119 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Chris,
Maybe I need to clarify. I dump the water every 30 minutes when I am using the machine for a real dirty job like the porch or gargae floor. In regular use I would only dump the water when I finish a floor and would be ready to take it upstairs. When you first start using a Rainbow the basin seems to get a lot more dirt and grit but after a few months use the amount of dirt and grit will be less and as you say you can do the whole job before needing to empty the basin.
You should try it for some of the more difficult jobs. It is the only machine I have ever used on the porch that does not clog up and lose the air flow almost immediatley and so much easier than the old hose,bucket and squeegee.
I have done it for years and years with my old Rainbow and it caused no damage to the machine.
The Rainbow's constant air flow really proved itself to me when we put in flagstone walks around the house this last summer. Grit being tracked into the house every day. The Rainbow did not clog and lose air flow when the other bagged and bagless machines would lose air flow in just a few minutes use.

Most the other machines made the carpet "look" nice and brushed but they were not able to get the sand and grit after a small amount of the sand and dirt from the new walks had plugged up the pores in their bags,bins and filters. Some even still had very strong suction but had lost a lot of air flow. This is another extreme example where I changed the water every 30 minutes use.
I hope this helps clarify.


Post# 214013 , Reply# 15   1/14/2013 at 09:37 (4,119 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
I might get a Rainbow ...

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If I had a maid coming in every day to use it.

Otherwise, the whole Broadway production of filling, changing, filling, changing, rinsing, and cleaning the vacuum every time you use it is just unrealistic for someone who has to work outside the home for a living.


Post# 214042 , Reply# 16   1/14/2013 at 11:05 (4,119 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
I won't let my housekeeper touch my Rainbow!

I've already replaced 2 cords on my XL21 this year because my maid has torn them up. She's not getting near my Rainbow!

Post# 214043 , Reply# 17   1/14/2013 at 11:06 (4,119 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I work outside the home but I still use a Rainbow :-) I fill, vacuum, empty and rinse the basin and I am done.

Gary


Post# 214044 , Reply# 18   1/14/2013 at 11:30 (4,119 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
Luxlife ...

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"I've already replaced 2 cords on my XL21 this year because my maid has torn them up. She's not getting near my Rainbow!"

Sounds like you should replace the MAID.


Post# 214084 , Reply# 19   1/14/2013 at 13:53 (4,118 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Dear NYCWriter,
I liked your post and loved your style.
To be somewhat serious I think you are 100% correct in that a Rainbow is NOT a good choice for your situation.
The Rainbow is best suited for:
(1) a user that has serious allergies because you NEVER handle the dust when filling or emptying the basin.
(2) If you are a clean freak with housekeeping
(3) you prefer to buy only once (Rainbow only has one product and made in USA) and prefer a tank type or canister machine

I can assure you we don't have a Broadway Production every time I use the machine.
Hey it's the midwest!
My new Rainbow has all direct connections,long hose and power cord and it came with a chrome door storage rack for the hose and tools. Everything is up off the floor.
I NEVER do more than just a quick rinse the basin at the end (unless it is an extreme job like the garage floor)and I keep the basin in the bathroom for quick fills and dump at completion. It takes no more than 30 seconds.
Anyway, I just wanted to tell you I enjoyed your humor and post. I think from what I read on your other thread you would be well served with a good quality bagged upright with attached tools. Good luck.


Post# 214086 , Reply# 20   1/14/2013 at 13:59 (4,118 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
Thank you William!

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Appreciate it.

As I mentioned in another thread, I'm leaning towards an Electrolux canister.


Post# 214166 , Reply# 21   1/15/2013 at 03:44 (4,118 days old) by thermokid (Casper, Wyoming)        
My New Rainbow

I can't even use. Because one of the dogs chewed up the cord so I cut out the bad spot of cord, spliced the cord back together, but I don't feel safe using it that way, So I ordered a new cord for the machine from the dealer where I purchased it from. The cord is here but I have no idea how to install the new cord. So the Rainbow just sits there and looks pretty... Dan

Post# 214167 , Reply# 22   1/15/2013 at 03:50 (4,118 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
One day

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I timed how long it took me to put my Rainbow away from the minute I turned it off and was finished, until I shut the door to the closet where it is stored.
First thing, I took the unit off the basin and wrapped the cord up. Took the separator off. Took the dirty water, dumped in toilet and flushed. Went to kitchen sink and cleaned the basin & separator and used the same clean rag to quickly wipe outside of the basin to dry it, put back on caddy, hung hoses and shut the door.

Total time: 4:30 seconds.


Post# 214170 , Reply# 23   1/15/2013 at 05:11 (4,118 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Rainbow cleaner-have my newest one-and yes use it after the Kirby, Meile, or the Sebo-like em all.Most of the time I just dump the dirty water bin outside.then as the Rainbow salesman says"The dirt is OUT of the house"I like to use the deoderizers in the bin.Makes a nice smell.The saleswoman gave me several when I bought my machine.She asks you what your favorites are-and gives you some of them.I find using the Rainbow really doesn't take any longer than other vacuums.I find with my usage I don't need to clean the separator after each use.Just check it-if dirty-then clean it-takes only a minute.The Hyla I got from the Rainbow dealer was choked with long dog hair-cleaned it out-the machine works-but not as nice a quality as the Rainbow.The powernozzle hose handle is cracked.The quality of the plastic in the Hyla isn't as good as the Rainbow.

Post# 214188 , Reply# 24   1/15/2013 at 09:07 (4,118 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
One day ...

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I timed how long it took me to put my Fantom away from the minute I turned it off until I shut the door to the closet where it is stored: 20 seconds.

Compared to Mark's four and a half minutes -- that's a four minute and ten second savings.

That doesn't sound like much, but if you use your vacuum three times a week like I do, that savings adds up over the course of a year to nearly TWELVE HOURS.

That's nearly an entire waking day of your life every year fussing with a water pan.

And even on a daily level, any New Yorker can tell you what a difference four and a half minutes makes. It means the difference between catching or not catching that subway train, which means the difference between catching or not catching that transfer out out to JFK, which means the difference between missing or not missing your $1500 non-refundable, non-transferable flight to that meeting in LA you will miss that COULD have meant a multi-million dollar Hollywood deal.

If only you weren't pissing around with a vacuum water pan.


Post# 214195 , Reply# 25   1/15/2013 at 09:47 (4,118 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Good point NYCwriter

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but I'd for me those hours can be deducted for merely not having to dust of vacuum as often. I think the chore I hate most is dusting but I'm a clean freak and hate disorder.

Post# 214196 , Reply# 26   1/15/2013 at 09:48 (4,118 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        

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I left out the word "say"

Post# 214297 , Reply# 27   1/15/2013 at 19:51 (4,117 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Hey NYCwriter,
I thought we had this settled. You have to STAY AWAY from a Rainbow but if you must, PLEASE let me train you on set up and storage. My friend Mark takes WAY too long with his machine. Mark does take excellent care of his things-I have to admit he made a good point. If you take 20 seconds with the Fantom and I can train you to take only 30 seconds with a Rainbow-you will save the other 10 seconds on the dusting and cleaning up the after mess of emptying the dirty dust from a bin.
Just remember "Wet dust can't fly" What a fun thread! I do know they don't have time to waste in NYC. New York, a great place to live and even better to visit! !


Post# 214304 , Reply# 28   1/15/2013 at 20:15 (4,117 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

That is a cool looking machine ..

Post# 214314 , Reply# 29   1/15/2013 at 20:52 (4,117 days old) by cleaningbuff (Quincy, IL)        
new Rainbow

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I have the NEW black rainbow, and I LOVE it! I leave it running on low speed daily, 7 days a week. I use the scents that I get from Rainbow my house always smells great and the level of dust is much reduced. Plus it helps to humidify the air.

I have a cat and a dog and I know that I am removing the hair and stuff because I see it when I empty it. I also have the 4 quart basin which i use for cleaning, I use the 2 quart for purifying the air.


Post# 214356 , Reply# 30   1/16/2013 at 00:11 (4,117 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I've thought about

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leaving mine on 24/7, but I never have as of yet because I seem to get pretty much most the dust when I do a good cleaning. I did leave it on for a few days on low speed once, but the water stayed pretty clear, so I figured why bother (other than the good smell). I have found that My nose becomes accustomed to whatever scent after a while and I can no longer smell it anyway. My main problem in my home is not dust, but cat hair from my two cats

Rob - I don't take way too long. (LOL)

For example. Underneath the Rainbow (when you're done) that seal that intake area where it meets the basin has a seal on it. I wipe that off and the intake area before putting it away because it has dirt on it. It isn't necessary, but it BUGS me, so I clean it off. Takes 15 seconds. I also take the separator off and clean it in the grooves every single time even though it may not need it. Why? Because that's the main reason (other than not changing water if it's too dirty) that the fans on the rainbow can get dirty. Over time, those separator grooves will get dirt in them and if you keep them clean, the fans will stay clean.


Post# 214499 , Reply# 31   1/17/2013 at 06:32 (4,116 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Robert,
I did the same thing. I have the basin that came with the machine and I bought an extra one from Ken Bashford JUST for air cleaning. It does make such a difference in the house dust after a few months use.
It dawned on me that when I used one of my regular machines-no matter how great it was cleaning the carpets or how strong the suction-it was thowing dust back into the air to settle on the blinds,furniture and table tops. I was CREATING the endless cyle of cleaning and redistrubuting the dust back over everything again.

I can tell the difference when we use another vacuum upstairs and there will be a fine layer of dust on the bed side chests the very next morning.
Not sure how long you have had your Rainbow but the longer you use it,you will notice the difference in the house dust if you switch to another type of machine.
I was a HARD sell on this concept.
Try this sometime: Empty one of the bagless machines as careful as you can and have your Rainbow running in the same room in the air cleaning mode. You will be amazed how much dust flys back in the air just from emptying the bin because the the dust is in the DRY state.
I use mine every morning on the low speed to clear the odors from cooking.
There just is never any odor from my machine and I can not say that about any other machine I have used even with the hepa and charcoal filters. It really helped my allergies over time.
Good luck with your machine.


Post# 214507 , Reply# 32   1/17/2013 at 09:31 (4,116 days old) by s31463221 (Frenchburg, KY)        
Rainbow SE

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I have owned a LOT of vacuum cleaners in my life, but until recently I never owned a rainbow. About a week ago I bought a used SE model from eBay because I simply didn't want to spend out on a brand new one in case I decided it just wasn't for me. With that said, I took it home last night and cleaned the entire house with it. Keep in mind, on Saturday I had fully vacuumed every room with either an Electrolux Silverado or a Kirby G5 (both of which I think do a great job!)......to say the least I was SHOCKED when I went to dump the basin after I finished. I can see how the in-home demonstrations could completely shame you into buying a new one!!! Oh my goodness! I was completely floored at how filthy the water was and how much fuzz/debris was in the tank! It had even sucked up one of the baby's toys and I didn't realize it until I dumped it!

I agree with you all when you say the Rainbow system isn't for everyone, it does require a little extra work at the end, dumping/rinsing/drying the basin, cleaning the seperator, etc. but for those who don't mind that it is an AMAZING machine. I and my daughter both suffer tremendously from allergies and the first thing I noticed about it was that when I turned it on, there was no funky "smell" that I have noticed from other machines when I turn them on. I can put a brand new bag in my Silverado and when I turn it on, I still get an odor that eminates from it. I did NOT get that with the Rainbow and the house seemed to have a cleaner feel to it when I was finished! Most likely that "feeling" was simply that and not a reality, but I do believe that continued use of this Rainbow could help alleviate a lot of our allergy issues! Just my two cents worth, but I certainly do not regret my purchase!


Post# 214516 , Reply# 33   1/17/2013 at 10:49 (4,116 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
Cats and the Rainbow ...

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... I just saw a video on YouTube about what happens to the Rainbow after it picks up even a little bit of kitty litter.

CLAY.

Stuck inside the water pan like cement.

Apparently not *everything* your vacuum sucks up should go into water.


Post# 214519 , Reply# 34   1/17/2013 at 11:52 (4,115 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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NYCWrite,
I remember that YOUTUBE! That was so funny. Who in their right mind would pick up kitty litter in ANY nice machine? I cannot believe you would spend that kind of money and then pick up something like kitty litter?
I almost ruined one of my uprights years ago when trying to use the tools and pick up a very small amount of fire place ash. I had compleley cleaned out my fireplace with a wisk broom and was going to use the dusting brush to just finish up. Within seconds the motor started laboring and the bag burst. What a mess and the poor machine was never right again. Who would want nasty kitty litter in their vacuum?
Kitty litter is designed to pick and absorb moisture. Why would anyone think to try and add that to a vacuum bag,bin or in this case a water basin?


Post# 214531 , Reply# 35   1/17/2013 at 16:09 (4,115 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Cats & a Rainbow

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Yes! I know that video you're talking about.

I don't use clay cat litter. I use Feline pine (pine pellets). It's the best cat litter I have ever used. If I used clay litter I would be afraid to vacuum with a rainbow. Common sense would tell me now to vacuum up clay litter in a water filtration vacuum anyway, but this guy doesn't allow comments on his video

I have used the feline pine long before I had a rainbow because I have always heard that cats ingest some of it when they clean themselves because it sticks to their paws and it will swell in their system and could cause health problems. It made sense to me so I stopped using it - even though people have been successfully using it for a long time.


Post# 214532 , Reply# 36   1/17/2013 at 16:11 (4,115 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        

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Not - not now

Post# 214597 , Reply# 37   1/18/2013 at 00:44 (4,115 days old) by rainbowd4se1 (USA)        

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Rainbow is my ALL TIME FAVORITE!! The new ones really look great! I have an E2, but I really like the older ones better. I have a D4SE that I use around the house.

Post# 214606 , Reply# 38   1/18/2013 at 05:12 (4,115 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Zach,
Not sure if Rainbow is favorite but I can sure say they last and last and helped my alergies.. I had my oldest Rexair out yesterday using it and it picked up a basin full of grit and sand that had been tracked in during the week. Not a hint of dusty odor or dust even under the top section of the motor.
They sure knew how to build the old Hoover's,Lux's,Air-Ways and Rexairs's.
I don't think we will see any of the cheap plastic vacs of today still working this good in 50 years. The motor is just so smooth and quiet.
I am always amazed at the design of the rug tool and how it concentrates the suction. The machine itself is very light and easy to carry.
I have noticed when you read the reports that customers put on the internet,you find many families who have owned a Rexair for decades and still getting excellent service.



Post# 214607 , Reply# 39   1/18/2013 at 06:58 (4,115 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
Kitty Litter ...

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"Kitty litter is designed to pick and absorb moisture. Why would anyone think to try and add that to a vacuum bag,bin or in this case a water basin?"

"Common sense would tell me now to vacuum up clay litter in a water filtration vacuum anyway"

Um, WRONG.

"Common sense" would tell me that I should be able to sweep up anything and everything with my $3000 Rainbow that I used to with my Fantom or Hoover.

You apparently have never owned cats. We're not talking about sucking up the whole damn litter box; we're talking about sucking up the stray *clean* litter that kitty tracks all around the house.

So if you own a cat, apparently that headlight on the power nozzle is now of VITAL importance; as you're sweeping, if you see ANY grains of kitty litter on the carpet or floor, you must immediately shut off the Rainbow and fetch your OTHER vacuum to finish the job?



Post# 214610 , Reply# 40   1/18/2013 at 07:43 (4,115 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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NYCWriter,
You would need to understand that most posters on this web site collect and love their machines, so no matter what make or model I would not pick up kitty litter in one of my machines be it a Hoover or Fantom or Rainbow.
As we were talking about earlier,I don't think this particular make machine would be a good fit for your requirements.
I am sure any make machine would be able to pick up a reasonable amount of kitty litter and even with a Rainbow IF the user has followed instructions and emptied the machine and rinsed the basin,there would be no reason it would have been that difficult to clean out.
The same idea with a substance like cement dust or fireplace ash. I COULD pick it up with any machine but I would not do it as it stops up the bags pores and filters and in the case of the Rainbow the cement dust would mix with water.

As you saw in my pictures I have used my Rainbow to clean the dirt from my garage floor for years but I never left it in the basin just the same as I would not leave dirt dirt in a paper bag or bin to breed bacteria and odors in a beautiful old Hoover or Electrolux.



Post# 214611 , Reply# 41   1/18/2013 at 07:45 (4,115 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
Kitty litter ...

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"You would need to understand that most posters on this web site collect and love their machines, so no matter what make or model I would not pick up kitty litter in one of my machines be it a Hoover or Fantom or Rainbow. "

So what would you pick up the kitty litter with, if not a vacuum?


Post# 214616 , Reply# 42   1/18/2013 at 08:10 (4,115 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I use my Lux '89 every morning to pick up the kitty litter that gets strewn around the litter box.

Gary


Post# 214617 , Reply# 43   1/18/2013 at 08:10 (4,115 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
NYCwriter

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I do own two cats and so if clay cat litter is made to absorb moisture and clump into balls of clay, that's no common sense? MMMMKKK

Take your 900 dollar Miele and clean out the fireplace ashes with it. It's a vacuum, right? That's what it's made for!


Post# 214620 , Reply# 44   1/18/2013 at 08:36 (4,115 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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NYCWriter,

I got right on the phone and called a good friend that has 4 cats and asked him the same question. He is NOT a vac collector or has any interest in vacuums. He uses his non electric carpet sweeper on his carpets and a wisk broom and dust pan on the hard surface. He never uses any vacuum unless it is just a few particles from their paws as they leave the box.
It was funny as he could not imagine why I would ask such a question.


Post# 214623 , Reply# 45   1/18/2013 at 08:56 (4,115 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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NYCWriter,
I just thought this example mght help:

I cook 2 meals a day. If I were to let the dirty dishes and pot and pans sit they would be very hard to clean. As soon as dinner is done,I get up wash the dishes and put them away.

Same with dirty clothes. As soon as I get a load of dirty clothes they go right in the Magtag. If I were to let dirty gym clothes sit all week,they would be more difficult to clean.
Thats all I was trying to point out. I would not pick up kitty litter in any large quanity with any machine but it sure would not work in a water filtration system if you were not going to rinse out the basin after each use.


Post# 214627 , Reply# 46   1/18/2013 at 09:38 (4,115 days old) by rainbowd4se1 (USA)        

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Rob, that Rexair looks great!! And I agree about the older vacuums being built good. I have a 46 Hoover and it still runs strong.

Post# 214746 , Reply# 47   1/19/2013 at 03:25 (4,114 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        
Fireplace ash and vacuums

Yes,you could use any vacuum for that matter to clean your fireplace-excepting a Rainbow and most bagless vacuums-IF you use the your bagged vacuum to clean out your fireplace----PLEASE for the sake of your home-or your LIFE and others in the house--remove the bag from the vacuum and put it in a METAL container OUTSIDE your house until trash pickup day.Fireplace embers can remain alive for weeks or even a month buried in ash-ash is an almost perfect heat insulator.Have seen more than one vacuum damaged beyond repair and houses burned down or almost burnt down from vacuuming ash and the householder put the vacuum away to find the embers vacuumed up fanned to being hot again from the airflow in the vacuum cleaner.And ash will clog and fill bags quickly.BEST -use the ash shovel and brush-and the metal ash container for fireplace-woodstove cleanups.

Post# 214758 , Reply# 48   1/19/2013 at 08:18 (4,114 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
My point being

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there are just some things you don't want to vacuum up that isn't good for your vacuum.

Post# 214763 , Reply# 49   1/19/2013 at 08:47 (4,114 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        

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"there are just some things you don't want to vacuum up that isn't good for your vacuum."

But kitty litter that the cat has tracked all over the house is most definitely the "usual" stuff you need to vacuum up on a regular basis.


Post# 214764 , Reply# 50   1/19/2013 at 08:51 (4,114 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
Using My Rainbow

Rex,
Thanks for the tip about the fireplace ash. I did not realize the embers would would last so long. I wwll sure be more careful about what I put them in now.
I have been guilty of dumping them in a plastic trash bin in the garage.
Good Advise!


Post# 214776 , Reply# 51   1/19/2013 at 09:49 (4,114 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
If you use

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Clay cat litter, then a Rainbow is not for you.

Post# 215028 , Reply# 52   1/20/2013 at 22:53 (4,112 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        
Shop vacs

If you're vacing fireplace ash or clay kitty litter, use a Shop Vac!

I use either my 1988 Craftsman 8-gallon wet/dry or Ridgid WD1956 or WD1670 for those jobs that can ruin ordinary vacuums.


Post# 215029 , Reply# 53   1/20/2013 at 22:54 (4,112 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        
Shop vacs

If you're vacing fireplace ash or clay kitty litter, use a Shop Vac!

I use either my 1988 Craftsman 8-gallon wet/dry or Ridgid WD1956 or WD1670 for those jobs that can ruin ordinary vacuums.


Post# 215082 , Reply# 54   1/21/2013 at 11:39 (4,112 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
"Use a shop vac" ...

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That's great if you actually have a *workshop* in your home ...

Post# 215179 , Reply# 55   1/21/2013 at 18:47 (4,111 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Or you could just

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NOT use clay litter if you have cats. I hate the stuff. It's bad for your cats.

Post# 215209 , Reply# 56   1/21/2013 at 20:30 (4,111 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)        
What is a good entry level Rainbow vacuum?

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Meaning is something like a d2 worth trying out? Or is the performance level just too inadequate & a later model would be better to look in to...

Post# 215250 , Reply# 57   1/22/2013 at 03:28 (4,111 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Shop Vac for ash-if you use one of these-be sure to use a Shop-Vac Drywall paper bag inside-so much easier to get rid of the ash-The yellow colored bags you can find at Lowes.And be sure the vac has the pleated HEPA filter.Keeps ash residue out of the fans and motor and your room.Originally Shop Vacs weren't designed to filter real fine debris unless equipped with the proper bags and filters.If you use the Shop vacuum without the bag and the filters alone-it will clog quickly-and what a MESS!Ash is sticky-difficult to clean off filters and the vacuums drum.

Post# 215251 , Reply# 58   1/22/2013 at 03:36 (4,111 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

williamr1248:I have seen so many fires caused in homes from people picking up ash from fireplaces and wood stoves in their homes-even ash that is a few months old.One vac dealer had a burnt Sharp upright on a pedistal in his shop and pictures of homes burned down from vacuuming ash--he used to say "Stupid People""They never learn!"This was when I lived in the Manassas,Va area near Wash DC.If you frequently clean fireplaces and stoves-all metal ash vacuums like what was discused for the cremations are available.Frequent woodstove users have them.It is amazing the insulating power of ash---after all--tiles made from ceramic "ash" insulated the Space Shuttle on ReEntry back to Earth!My Dad always used the metal ash shovel and brushes for cleaning his fireplace or stove-and he put the ash in the metal ash bucket.And then he put the ash in a metal trash can for trash pickup-even trash collectors can be leary of ash-it can cause trash truck fires!

Post# 215469 , Reply# 59   1/23/2013 at 12:47 (4,109 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan )        
My history with my Rainbow.

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This seems to be a fun thread and I thought I would join in for a quick responce.

I have had my Rainbow since I was 18 and in my first apartment. I'm 35 now so that tells how long I have had it and with the exception of two other vacuums I would never go to anything else. While I just bought a Hoover Celebrity II for the hell of it I still use my Rainbow as my primary vacuum. I vacuum three to four times and use my Rainbow each and every time.

As stated before the Rainbow is not for everyone. I love it because it does cut down on dusting, my air feels and smells great afterwords and maintance is kept to a mininum. I think in all my years of owning my machine I have never once had it in the shop.

It was mentioned that it's a lot of upkeep at the end of your vacuuming. Mine is easy. I stuff the hoses, wheels and motor in closet, and dump and rinse the water pan and stash it under the sink and I'm done Takes me maybe all of two minutes. Once a month I scrub the water pan really good and maybe ever four vacuumings I clean the seperator. I don't consider my upkeep in anyway a "Broadway Production" It's just part of my cleaning routine.

I'm like a lot of people in this group. I take good care of the vacuum so that I can get the best out of it and use my own discression as to what is and isn't okay to pick up. In my own opinon my Rainbow was the best investment that I could have made, and I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way.


Post# 216021 , Reply# 60   1/26/2013 at 15:04 (4,106 days old) by filterqueenman (Park City UT)        
My Machine is getting a work out!

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I have had my house closed up for 6 months and on Friday I started my heavy cleaning. My Rainbow is doing the job! Like Rob, I have very bad allergies and I have found that I felt better with just using the Rainbow over my other machines.

Now back to cleaning - after I change the water again!! LOL!!

Oh Rob - I use mine too in the garage to get the salt up. I do not want that mess in my house and moreover the salt used here will bleach my carpet so I am super careful about keeping the garage clean and taking my snow boots off in the garage. I do wash the pan and seperator after working in the garage however.


Post# 216426 , Reply# 61   1/28/2013 at 11:10 (4,105 days old) by 2011hoover700 (owosso michigan)        
rainmate question

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Is the rainmate an air cleaner or is it just only an air freshing system?

I just boughr a rainbow d2 and already love it and was wanting to learn more about the newest rainmate and some other rainmates (preferibly recent).

thanks


Post# 216448 , Reply# 62   1/28/2013 at 14:45 (4,104 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Rainmate

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I don't think I would call this air cleaning. I have two of them and to me they are just little devices to distribute scents throughout. I don't think they clean the air at all.

Post# 216731 , Reply# 63   1/29/2013 at 21:52 (4,103 days old) by marks_here (_._)        
Clay cat litter

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Okay, i'm confused which won't be the first time, but why shouldn't you vacuum up clay cat litter in a rainbow? I've been doing it for years with no problems but after reading all this, it's got me worried. I clean the basin out after each use & once a month I wipe some jet dry in there to keep the plastic looking clear. My family had the crome dome w\o the power nozzle which worked for years until my neighbor borred it & vacuumed up carpet fresh, with half the water required thus causing the motor to seize. At that time it was in the late 80's and $250 for a new motor according to my father was out of the question.

Post# 216732 , Reply# 64   1/29/2013 at 21:54 (4,103 days old) by marks_here (_._)        

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borred- borrowed

Post# 217737 , Reply# 65   2/5/2013 at 16:09 (4,096 days old) by marks_here (_._)        

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Okay, I saw the video that ya'll were talking about and I can say as long as I have owned & used rainbows (still have crome dome, d4se, e2, e2gold, e2 blue) I have NEVER had that happen with the clumping like that. I looks like to me he started out with not the right amount of water in the basin & that's what would happen. My clay cat litter floats around with everything else it has picked up no in now way have I ever seen that in my machine.

Post# 217802 , Reply# 66   2/5/2013 at 22:16 (4,096 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Well think about it

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When a cat urinates in clay litter, it clumps up because it absorbs the water. So if you're vacuuming up something that is meant to absorb water, then it can't be good. I guess it would be OK if it's not a large amount and you change the water quickly before it has a chance to absorb it.

You wipe JetDry on your basin to keep it clear?


Post# 217816 , Reply# 67   2/5/2013 at 23:34 (4,096 days old) by marks_here (_._)        
Jet dry

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Hey Mark, well I still can't believe that as hard I try to understand that video, it's not like i'm putting the wand in to vacuum out the cat poopies & pi$$. It looks like to me that there was not enough water in there OR it was left in there for a long time. I know I forgot to dump mine out for 3 days & it stunk up the laundry room. Yes I got tired of going outside to dump the debree in freezing temps, so I bought a strainer & dump the water down the sink & throw the rest in the garbage.
The jet dry i've been doing that for years, once a month I put some jetdry on a paper towel & wipe the inside of the basin, wait till it dries, then take a damp paper towel wipe it around (kind of like putting rainx on your car windows) figuring out it wasn't doing any harm to the inside of the dishwasher (plastic inside, no stainless steel) because I picked up a nail & it got stuck to the bottom of the basin & left it rusted. Everything that i've picked up in it (including a mice) has just flowed out & the bowl looks clear, not clouded at all like i've seen some do. THe rainbow rep. even told me that it was okay to put some bleach in while vacuuming (minus scents) to discinfect anything that it picks up. I have not done that & I don't think I would. Bleach & the soft plastic seal doesn't sound like a match, seems like it would dry it out.


Post# 217821 , Reply# 68   2/5/2013 at 23:47 (4,096 days old) by marks_here (_._)        

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I forgot to put in LOL after I said cat pi$$ ... I would not recommend vacuuming up drywall dust because I was at the rainbow distributor getting scents & there was a machine in there covered in white dust, I made a comment only to find out it was his machine. I felt like a real donkey after that... so please just know that I have a great ¢¢ of humour...

Post# 217827 , Reply# 69   2/6/2013 at 00:35 (4,096 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I dump

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the water down the toilet. I keep my house vacuumed so much that I don't have a basin full of crud so it's pretty safe for me to dump down the toilet but it's mostly just some cat hair and murky water; not thick sludge. If it were that bad, I would use a strainer or something, but it's usually not. An example of me NOT dumping it down the toilet would be in the pic above where Rob vacuumed out his garage. In a case like that, I would use a strainer or something.

You vacuumed up a mouse? Euuuuuwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!


Post# 217832 , Reply# 70   2/6/2013 at 02:15 (4,096 days old) by marks_here (_._)        

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Same thing here too, I use the strainer to catch the cat fur, mostly the water is a light grey colour, if it gets really dark, time to shampoo the carpets.

Yeah a mouse... we had one in the kitchen, I came in & the cat was stepping on it with his back claws or pouncing (but it was funny as hell) and it started staggering towards the stove & I thought i'm not having a semi-dead mouse lodged up in my stove so I grabbed the vacuum, turned it on, got it & when I heard it hit the bowl, I dropped the wand & ran out the room, left it in there swirlin around for a good 15 minutes. Came back turned it of...it was gone...so sad...then I went to my neighbors that don't like us & dumped the water & all in his garden. I started to hit it with a hammer then I thought how in the hell am I gonna clean up smashed mouse...so..LOL...i'll get it with the vacuum..no mess to clean up...saved me from buying a new stove.


Post# 217838 , Reply# 71   2/6/2013 at 04:24 (4,096 days old) by MikeKLondon ()        
Best Vacuum

Having read this post I think the best vacuum for a daily driver is one YOU like using. I think I mite like using a rainbow. The only vac's I hate are bag-less ones as they are a pin to empty. Even the new little Dyson hand vac I have is messy the best way I have found is to use the Miele to clean it out. I have 2 dogs to clean up after and a rainbow looks very good at dog hair. I'll look at for a SH one to try on e-bay as they seem to come up for sale often but,Will I have a big problem buying parts in the UK.

Post# 217958 , Reply# 72   2/7/2013 at 01:44 (4,095 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
If anyone

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Buys a Rainbow (even though it is more convenient with just one hose on the new Rainbow) Get the 14 foot non electric hose. It's so great because you can basically just leave the machine parked and there's not much you can't get (high and low), plus you don't have the bulky handle getting in the way and the suction is great even at that length.

Luckily, this will fit even the new Black Rainbow (if I ever upgrade) , which I doubt I will for a long time.

Oh, and the plant in the pic is long gone. It's pathetic looking. I tried to save it but couldn't.


Post# 218987 , Reply# 73   2/13/2013 at 09:32 (4,089 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

I used my Rainbow to get rid of ant infestations; last summer my house was infested with fire ants, so I used the Rainbow for vacing up the ants until the pest control came.

When I use the Rainbow for washing floors, it does a better job than the FloorMate. Sometimes I use the Lux B8 to dispense water & Mr. Clean & scrub the floor, then use the AquaMate (with squeegee tool attached) for rinsing & vacing up the water. It's so much better than a mop!


Post# 314914 , Reply# 74   2/8/2015 at 10:54 (3,364 days old) by barbie ()        
my Rainbow was the best investment that I could have made,

I agree completely...with pets in the house (three cats and one dog), living on a farm, and allergy issues...the Rainbow (made by Rexair) is well worth the money. I came here looking for advice on cleaning drywall dust...and looks like I may just clean it up by hand....or soak it on the floor and use my carpet cleaners instead of my Rainbow. Thanks to all who posted here....good info.


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