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Post# 210003   12/15/2012 at 00:10 (2,661 days old) by joshuak420 ()        

I had a Oreck Rinse a Matic Steelers Ultra. It never did a very good job, bit wasn't awful either. It finally kicked the bucket (I'm grateful for it blowing up) the motor in it got
Loud and it just got worn out. I need something that will hold up, and
I really want it to scrub. I'd like a feature where I can go through with
Only water afterwards, I dont want soap in my carpet afterwards.
I need one that's sturdy, not too heavy, not too loud either.
My oreck was loud as shit.. I want one that will really make
My carpet stand up again, and one that's good for stains.
Old stains. Attachments I don't really need, but they are nice.
I'm looking to spend no more than 300. I've heard a lot of good
things about the Hoover's, not so much Bissell. I just want a simple
easy to use, good working carpet cleaner for my money. I'll leave you
up to which one you think would best suit my needs.

Post# 210004 , Reply# 1   12/15/2012 at 00:40 (2,661 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I have an older HOOVER

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American made steamer.  It's GREAT.  You might look at some of the newer HOOVERs, too. John Gregory sells them.   You're too far away for a sale from him, but,  he knows those machines inside out.   I've watched him sell a few.  At least, maybe, give him a shout.

Post# 210008 , Reply# 2   12/15/2012 at 00:58 (2,661 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I recently got my hands on a new Hoover carpet cleaner, Years ago I had the first spinscrub and when that got to tired I replaced it with a Bissell pro heat x2 ( the only upright carpet cleaner currently available on the SA market) when a customer brought in the hoover for a power conversion she ended up trading it in on a Bissell as it was the cheaper option,
Both machines have there pro's and cons though I must admit the Hoover seems to clean better thanks to its spinning scrubbers as apposed to the Bissels counter rotating brushes( carpet institutes recommend the counter rotating rollers interestingly but my carpets seem to like the scrubbers. I also thing the hoover sucks better too. But I have very thick carpets so on normal carpets they seem to work the same. I prefer the Bissells built in hose and its tank system which can be easily disconnected from the machine with just a pull and the machine can be left in the upright position. The Hoover you have to lower the handle and lean it against something to remove the vac tank.

The Hoovers tanks are much bigger though. Over all I would probably take the Hoover despite it sounding like a Jet engine with noisy bearings. I just like it more.

I also like the fact that unlike the Bissell the Hoovers brushes can scrub the floor in hardfloor mode.

Now if only there was some way that John Gregory could convince tti to get Hoover SA to sell them here that would be great

Post# 210009 , Reply# 3   12/15/2012 at 01:08 (2,661 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
The new tanks lift out EASILY.

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No more need to tilt the handle to the wall. I don't think any of us has the 'power' or influence like that to TTI.

Post# 210025 , Reply# 4   12/15/2012 at 09:09 (2,660 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Another reccomendation for the hoover

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Yup if you go with an older styled hoover you should not be disappointed by it's performance the only feature it doesn't have that you're looking for is the rinse feature as for the stains not only does the agitation matter but the spot cleaner or soap you use will make a big difference so far i've had the best luck with R2X spot cleaner.

Post# 210028 , Reply# 5   12/15/2012 at 09:20 (2,660 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        

I agree with all above.None are perfect but Hoover is better.Also-Never loan to anyone.Remember the first step to carpet cleaning is vacuuming with a good vacuum with good belt,empty bag or clean filters,proper height setting and take time to get the loose dirt before using the steam cleaner.

Post# 210043 , Reply# 6   12/15/2012 at 10:40 (2,660 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        
Bissell Big Green

Has a LARGE brush roller
Heavy-duty commercial grade
Powerful suction than most domestic deep cleaners

Post# 210044 , Reply# 7   12/15/2012 at 10:43 (2,660 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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I've gone through this whole process before, and if you want something under $300, Hoover is is the only option. Bissell ProHeats are nice, but are very unreliable. Check into an Oreck Orbiter as well. When used with Host or a bonnet encap solution, you can get the same job done in much less time. Let us know what you get and we can assit you in the cleaning process. Simply spreading water & soap unto the carpet won't do the job. The professionals have their own process that makes the job much easier.

Post# 210046 , Reply# 8   12/15/2012 at 10:59 (2,660 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        
Hoover Steam Vac F5914

I recommend this one over the newer Dual V & Max Extract

CLICK HERE TO GO TO floor-a-matic's LINK on eBay

Post# 210047 , Reply# 9   12/15/2012 at 11:25 (2,660 days old) by joshuak420 ()        

I've thought about the orbiter, and I loved it when
I tried it at Oreck, but I just don't want to spend
399.99 and the go have to buy my pads, and brushes
And the dry carpet shampoo, pre treater. The orbiters
are also really heavy, kinda awkward to use. But effective.
I never really considered a Bissell, since I tried the pro heat
And I did not like it. It was a burgundy color one. Hoover
seems like my only option.

Post# 210095 , Reply# 10   12/15/2012 at 20:26 (2,660 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

I also recommend the Hoover F5914 SpinScrub SteamVac over any other Hoover. This is the tried and true 1990s style.


Post# 210097 , Reply# 11   12/15/2012 at 20:31 (2,660 days old) by Davinator1977 ()        
Royal Commercial

I really like this one it seems to stand up well

Post# 210099 , Reply# 12   12/15/2012 at 20:35 (2,660 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Here is the commercial version of the Hoover F5914 SpinScrub SteamVac.


Post# 210136 , Reply# 13   12/16/2012 at 09:08 (2,659 days old) by joshuak420 ()        

Ive decided to get a Hoover Steam Vac,I have a crap ton of oreck cartridges, so Im going to have to use those.

Post# 210150 , Reply# 14   12/16/2012 at 12:08 (2,659 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Excellent choice!

Post# 210196 , Reply# 15   12/16/2012 at 20:14 (2,659 days old) by gmerkt (Edmonds WA)        

I vote for the 1990's-early 2000's style Hoover SpinScrub. Or whatever they sell now that is based on that design. I work on the Hoovers and once in a while the Bissell but I prefer the Hoover. Two examples: (1) The F5860, which has the spot cleaning hose that attaches to the waste water tank; (2) the F5866, which has the spot cleaning hose that goes through the base of the handle and locks onto a vacuum port there. There are many iterations of both of these.

People discard these machines often and it doesn't take much to get them going again. One problem is they don't clean them, and don't rinse/flush the system after using. When a carpet cleaning job is done, you don't stop with the carpet. You continue on with a clean-up of the machine including flushing straight water through both sides of the system (floor and spot cleaning).

Common complaint: The spot cleaning side doesn't work. Reason: Dried/coagulated cleaning solution in inner line of hose. Owner didn't flush it after last use.

On the F5866 type, they are notorious for breaking the hose right were it locks on to the vacuum port. This is because the hose makes a 90 degree turn at this point and the flexing (from handle movement) stresses the material and it splits, reducing suction to both sides of the system. These are easy to repair. You just cut off about three inches of outer hose and two inches of inner line, clean the dead material from the hose & line out of the black fitting, then epoxy the line in place, let cure, then refit the outer hose securing it with silicone silastic cement and allow that to cure. I drill the material out of the fitting where the inner line is glued into place before reattaching. It shortens the hose a bit, but it restores suction and functionality. I've fixed a bunch of these like this.

On this type, you've got to always leave the spot cleaning nozzle cradled to maintain optimum suction.

On the F5860 type, the spot cleaning hose is removeable. People lose this or the blocking spacer in the tank, then the machine is no good to them.

It isn't often that these have electrical problems; all they have is a switch and a motor. The scrubbers are run by vacuum from the motor. The scrubber brushes get contaminated with hair, fiber, etc, so I use a cat flea comb to clean them out.

People are careless and run into walls with these machines so you will see them with broken nozzles. Usually, this isn't a functional issue. Often it's just chipped corners and this has no functional effect. I can buy these machines often for $4 to $6 as discards and it doesn't take much to fix them up. Or you can find them sitting along the road on trash pickup day.

These machines have great suction and there are times when they can be used for other than carpet cleaning. Like when a water heater ruptures and water is in the floor coverings. You'd be surprised how well these work for getting water out of carpet under those circumstances. There can be issues with the underlying pad, and you can pull it all out and let it dry after you get the sopping water out. It's cheaper than replacing the carpet. Or just let your insurance company deal with it.

Always, always, clean the machine after use (did I already say that? I'm saying it again). You can even take it outside and spray off the underside with a hose; it won't hurt it; after all, it has water going on under there all the time you're using it anyway. Clean out the scrubbers -- they unclip and come off. Rinse out both tanks and flush both sides of the system with clear water.

If you don't like hair balls stuck in the clear plastic top duct from the nozzle, this comes off with about five screws, then you can clean it properly. Sometimes, you can get this clean by just blowing water back through the nozzle system with the tank off.

Post# 210213 , Reply# 16   12/16/2012 at 23:02 (2,659 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Or U can run pipe cleaner thru the suction nozzle.

Post# 210474 , Reply# 17   12/18/2012 at 23:36 (2,657 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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Great choice. Although my model is discontinued. I love using it!! My Hoover Steamvac Widepaths do a great job. Seen here is my parents machine but my unit is the same in different color.

Post# 210537 , Reply# 18   12/19/2012 at 20:18 (2,656 days old) by vacuumman206 ()        
new carpet cleaner

Whatever you do, don't buy a new bissell. I highly recommend the older Bissell Big Green or BG Powerbrush, if you can find one. The regular of course doesn't have a rotating brush, and consequently takes a little longer, but I love the fact it has separate pump and suction switches and it's easy to make a change from soap to plain water. But since they are more shop-vac designed, they are a little loud. What I highly highly recommend is the Kenmore Home cleaning system. Which is probably even harder to find (in my opinion) than a Big Green. It also serves as a great shop vac and can be easily converted into a canister with a power nozzle. The carpet pn is a beast. It will get everything out of your carpet on the first pass. But it is also a little loud being part shop vac.

Post# 210545 , Reply# 19   12/19/2012 at 20:43 (2,656 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        
Kenmore Home cleaning system

Also known as a Sears Cleanmore. Were they made by Singer?

Lately, I see them LESS often on eBay; seems to be a collector's item?

Post# 210562 , Reply# 20   12/19/2012 at 22:39 (2,656 days old) by joshuak420 ()        

I decided on a Hoover Steam Vac. I picked it up today.
Its fantastic. I cleaned my Family Room, Stairs, and a bedroom.
It did a fantastic job and my carpets look fantastic. The carpet cleaner
I got is the basic model with the hose and one non spinscrub upholstery
Tool. A little heavy, kinda loud, a pain to switch to carpet to tools, but I love
the blue sparkly color. Its nice, has clean surge which seemed to be effective.
I use it without the hose on it because it's clunky, and in the way. The hose will
be stored on board only when it's not in us. I vacuumed before and after
since according to the manual you are supposed to do for best results.
I do wish I could go back with just water without having to fill the
tank up with just clean water, and then go back over it to rinse all the residue
out of my carpet. I like the three brush settings, also. It only took about a 1.
hour for my carpets to dry completely, but I waited 3 before I vacuumed. I wanted
to make sure it was dry before I vacuumed it. Must of been the hot exhaust called heated cleaning
that made it dry so quick. Overall I'm impressed, I only payer 129 dollars, and it's
way worth that price.

Post# 210654 , Reply# 21   12/20/2012 at 16:41 (2,655 days old) by sanitaire (anchorage, alaska)        

i got a rug dr of the well. I use commerical grade soap...great results...

Post# 210655 , Reply# 22   12/20/2012 at 16:58 (2,655 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
You guys need to read this thread

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he bought a Hoover steam vac read back and you`ll see .

So all suggestions are not needed he bought the best home carpet cleaner .

Post# 211501 , Reply# 23   12/28/2012 at 17:18 (2,647 days old) by TheHooverMan (United States )        

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I Got The Same One Its The LS Model With Scrubing Tool

Post# 211558 , Reply# 24   12/28/2012 at 22:33 (2,647 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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YAY!!! Post a picture of your headlights!! I love those Widepath machines!!

Post# 212348 , Reply# 25   1/3/2013 at 13:57 (2,641 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa, OK)        
I have to say HOOVER!

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My mother bought a cheap Dirt Devil shampooer at Kmart when I was a teenager. It was HORRIBLE and left the carpets very damp. A couple of years ago, my vacuum buddy in Sand Springs, OK gave me a Hoover SteamVac and Iíve been using it for the past three or four years. It works very well and my carpets are not as damp as they were with the Dirt Devil. Iím in the market for another Hoover, because this one has seen a lot of use and abuse (Iím not very careful with it). The bottom part of the plastic handle has broken off and it is louder than usual. But it still cleans well!

A couple of months ago I acquired an Electrolux Floor pro. When I shampoo I usually use the Electrolux Floor Pro first and then rinse with the Hoover Steamvac using only a minimal amount of shampoo in the tank. The combination of the Hoover and Electrolux works Great!

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