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What became of the "New" Hoover Convertible
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Post# 206941   11/17/2012 at 21:18 (2,689 days old) by gmerkt (Edmonds WA)        

What became of the "new" Hoover so-called Convertible, a plastic machine that was a reissue of the old Savvy? Copper color. This was maybe 4, 5 years ago. Was it sold only in Britain?




Post# 206958 , Reply# 1   11/17/2012 at 22:58 (2,689 days old) by vacmaster0000 ()        

No, we got it over here too. It is obvious that its not a
true convertible, it won't hold the carpet up on a cushion of
Air like a true convertible. And wouldn't last nearly as long.


Post# 207027 , Reply# 2   11/18/2012 at 15:11 (2,688 days old) by baglessball ()        

Photo?


Post# 207042 , Reply# 3   11/18/2012 at 16:36 (2,688 days old) by director12 ()        

Essentially, Hoover took the Savvy, painted it copper, and gave it a different name to fool customers that the Convertible is still there. They also took the Windtunnel upright (not the S/P version), cheapened it out, and named it the Tempo (the bagless version is a slap in the face compared to the bagged versions).

They also took a compact Dirt Devil extractor with a hose, and slapped the Hoover logo on it. Was this their way of rebadging products or something.


Post# 207043 , Reply# 4   11/18/2012 at 16:38 (2,688 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
What became of the "new" Hoover Convertible?

I can tell you the one I bought is a terible,terible joke. Mine came with 2 dust containers. One for bagless use and another that was to use Hoover Hepa bags. The design was so poor on the container that was to use the Hepa bags that the bags WOULD NOT stay in place. I took it back for a replacment and the second example was just the same. I took it to 2 different Hoover repair dealers and they could not get the hepa bag to stay on the retainer either-hense when you turned on the machine all the dirt would go right into the motor.
The build quality was so poor that I read customers had the whole chasis actually break off where the back wheels attached. I was super careful with mine.
It was too heavy,too bulky,leaked dust and was too loud. They should have been ashamed to put the name Hoover or Convertible anywhere on it.
It is a nice silver and bronze color combination.


Post# 207045 , Reply# 5   11/18/2012 at 16:55 (2,688 days old) by uksausage (eastbourne east sussex UK)        
pics

does anyone have any pics of this random machine or videos

Post# 207048 , Reply# 6   11/18/2012 at 17:05 (2,688 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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This is the machine in question. I've heard nothing but bad things about this model. I never saw one for sale in person, and Hoover.com often had them on clearance. I'm not surprised it was discontinued, just like the V2 and Savvy it was based off of.

Post# 207060 , Reply# 7   11/18/2012 at 18:13 (2,688 days old) by director12 ()        

It does have a nice color combo, but that's it.

Post# 207063 , Reply# 8   11/18/2012 at 19:09 (2,688 days old) by sonnyndad ()        
Good Grief, Hoover

That is NOT a true Convertible!


Post# 207099 , Reply# 9   11/19/2012 at 05:02 (2,687 days old) by director12 ()        

That's right.

Post# 207155 , Reply# 10   11/19/2012 at 18:30 (2,687 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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I got one,Almost brand new,maybe 2 scratches on it,And i must say it's an impressive cleaner.While this cleaner is obviously not a true Convertible,It is a good vacuum.It's nice to see that mine has a dirt sensor,And can be used bagged or bagless.You can also turn the brush-roll on and off from the handle.While the cleaner is heavy,It is in comparable weight to an older metal-base convertible.

-Alex.


Post# 207161 , Reply# 11   11/19/2012 at 19:01 (2,687 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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It's probably called a Convertible because it can be used bagged or bagless. Hoover used the Convertible on an Elite II in the late '90s as well.

Post# 207163 , Reply# 12   11/19/2012 at 19:33 (2,687 days old) by director12 ()        

Use either bags or go bagless...how creative Hoover.

Post# 207369 , Reply# 13   11/21/2012 at 22:19 (2,685 days old) by gmerkt (Edmonds WA)        

Oh, now I get the convertible thing. A little slow here. Completely different concept (pardon the pun) than the orig. Convertible. The Hoover Dual V, which was the second name used on the V2 model, had versions with both types of dirt cassettes. At that time, they didn't capitalize on it from a marketing angle. The bag cassette that took the (expensive) polyfiber Hoover Y series bag was the bonus. The regular models that came only with the bagless dirt cassette had one model number, and the same exact machine that had the bonus bagged cassette had a different model number.

Over the years, I've found several of the bonus bagged containers in the junk bins at thrift stores, complete with a new, unused bag inside. When I sell a refurbed Dual V occasionally, buyers decline the bagged cassette.

The V2 and the Dual V (the models with the four, diagonally opposed mini agitators, have better electricals than the later Savvy. My understanding is that the Savvy with a single agitator was a rework of the Dual V because they'd had so much trouble with the latter. Actually, the early Savvys were still equipped with four agitators. Unfortunately, some of the changes that they made on the single roll version were not for the better. Incorporating the control for agitator on/off function with the basic power switch on the handle was more convenient, but the switch on the Savvy is a weak link and a replacement costs $20-something. The contact points inside the switch burn out (in my opinion) prematurely. The earlier Dual V with the agitator selector switch on the floor nozzle is less convenient but more reliable.

The "dual vee" concept has to do with the suction at the nozzle being from two passages in the nozzle rather than the conventional single one. As built, the two passages are both more narrow than typical single designs. The plenum where the two meet is articulated which complicates the design a bit, and the plenum outlet is a right angle, not the best design.




Post# 207374 , Reply# 14   11/21/2012 at 23:07 (2,685 days old) by director12 ()        

The Steamvac used the V2/Dual V name.




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