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Thread Number: 18722
What innovations have made Vacuum Cleaners clean better and what are the best examples of these? |
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| Post# 205953 11/5/2012 at 23:44 (4,182 days old) by mieles7 (TX) | ||
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Post# 205961 , Reply# 2 11/6/2012 at 03:25 (4,182 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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Filtrete type bags! | ||
| Post# 205962 , Reply# 3 11/6/2012 at 03:48 (4,182 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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I think it does not matter what the vacuum cleaner has, the person using it has got to know how to clean for it to be of any use. | ||
| Post# 205968 , Reply# 4 11/6/2012 at 06:52 (4,182 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
I'd have to say that Eureka's top fill F&G dust bags for uprights really helped increase air flow and performance. Not sure if Eureka was the first to do this, but I think the design greatly improved cleaning performance for uprights.
I alsi think that Panasonic's belt-less brush roll with its own internal motor is a wonderful invention! It seems to perform very well and offers users an easy way to electronically shut off the agitator for bare floor cleaning. It also offers a way to easily slow down the agitator for gentle cleaning of delicate rugs. And this is all achieved without any belts or clutches! | ||
| Post# 205973 , Reply# 5 11/6/2012 at 07:33 (4,182 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
 Handy question! Having had my new Panasonic MC-UG522 upright for nearly a month now, I'd say the brush roll is definitely an improvement to other big box brands I've used. I now have a new cat to care for and the brush roll on the Panasonic with its well spaced out bristles and wooden brush roll seems to just whisk all manner of hair away without it getting wrapped around the brush roll. Of course it may also have to do with the fact that the Panasonic has a direct round suction channel after the brush roll where it measures the same diameter as the hose that feeds into it. Pity the same couldn't have been said about the smaller Vax Mach Air brush roll. 
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| Post# 205994 , Reply# 8 11/6/2012 at 13:54 (4,181 days old) by Trebor () | ||
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Clean better... can mean absolute most removal of dirt/debris, or it can mean most removed for time/energy spent. The original Hoover Junior is hard to beat for most dirt removed for least effort expended and least energy consumed | ||
| Post# 206039 , Reply# 9 11/6/2012 at 21:04 (4,181 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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I forgot to add the following innovation: the sideways-oriented motor in uprights. Up until this innovation was introduced in the sleek Singer upright of the 1950's, all upright motors either faced "fan down" or "fan to the front.". By orienting the fan to the side, Singer offered an upright that could provide two fans and two suction channels. It also resulted in a much sleeker profile. This configuration formed the basis for the "bag first" Hoover Dial a Matic, which eventually inspired most other vac-makers to orient the motor in the same way for their uprights (except Kirby and Royal). This design is seen in Elites, Bravos, Panasonics, Dysons, WindTunnels, Sanyos, Sharps, Riccars, etc.
Indeed a real turning point in upright vac design was created by that first Singer upright! | ||
| Post# 206041 , Reply# 10 11/6/2012 at 21:23 (4,181 days old) by mieles7 (TX) | ||
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Post# 206052 , Reply# 13 11/6/2012 at 23:04 (4,181 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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The "BEATER BAR" | ||
| Post# 206060 , Reply# 15 11/7/2012 at 01:08 (4,181 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
No Loss of Suction....
That's what I personally feel is the best recent invention. The fact that there's a vacuum with no bag or filter to clog, no expense in filters or bags, is great because the main problem with most conventional vacuums has been they lose power quickly. Thus, having to change & clean bags & filters often, & not getting the carpet as clean as it could be. And I think the fact that Dyson's invention has been copied so widely proves this.
Rob | ||
| Post# 206062 , Reply# 16 11/7/2012 at 02:02 (4,181 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
Hmm
There have been quite a few changes which have increased the performance of vacuums over time. I do feel some of the more recent ones are actually set backs in terms of overall performance though, I do agree with some of the posts already made such as:
The hepa cloth bags have been a huge leap forward maintaining much more airflow as the bag fills. The beater bar or brush stiffeners which allows for better agitation. Brushroll design even if a roller lacks a beater or stiffener a good design can still reach pretty deep. Let's not forget crushproof hoses, while they may not seem quite as flexible, the smoother interior allows for better airflow (tested on an entry level beam central vac with the baird guage 0 with my wire enforced Broan hose 5.5 with a Hanmi crushproof hose) Hmm i feel i'm forgetting something | ||
| Post# 206067 , Reply# 17 11/7/2012 at 04:38 (4,181 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Hmm forgotten something? A lighter weight to push the actual machine, perhaps?
Maybe not so in the U.S with the established metal heavy brands like Kirby etc, but certainly from a European point of view, uprights are now lighter than classic examples from the 1970s.
Much as I'd like to think Dyson has revolutionized vacuums with the BALL, I don't feel the Ball brings anything new. It might look obvious and original, but the swivel action on uprights has been around for years if you take into consideration stick vacuums with electric power nozzle heads. Dyson eventually tapped into that niche already with the cordless hand held. Same kind of design, same kind of swivel when it comes to use. The BALL may well prolong suction and improve cleaning quality per use, but the actual function has been seen before, not just from brands like Sebo, but also before Sebo - the Miele stick vacuums are probably one of the best compact "uprights" on the market. It's easy to say they're not a proper upright, but their design infers an upright design in general. | ||
| Post# 206072 , Reply# 18 11/7/2012 at 07:19 (4,181 days old) by thevacuumman (Borger, TX) | ||
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I think as far as bagless vacuums go that the dual cyclone that the Fantoms used were good | ||
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Post# 206153 , Reply# 20 11/8/2012 at 01:59 (4,180 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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Vacu-Finder--which Oreck Power nozzle for Central Vacs?
You mention that the Oreck power nozzles for central vacs are great. Are you perhaps referencing the Allegro Smart power nozzle that has styling on the hood resembling a hybrid mixture of Hoover Windtunnel and Quadraflex power nozzles? See link.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Durango159's LINK on eBay | ||
| Post# 206209 , Reply# 22 11/8/2012 at 18:02 (4,179 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I was cleaning with my Miele S6 tonight. Big spillage of coffee powder on the kitchen floor. A real waste of instant coffee which some may well disagree isn't a waste. However totally dismayed to find the AAC filter does not absorb the smell of coffee. Shame when it does so well with pet hair and tobacco though. Still, I don't mind the smell of coffee emanating from the Miele each time I clean now lol.
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| Post# 206214 , Reply# 23 11/8/2012 at 18:18 (4,179 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH) | ||
I vote for....
Kirby's toe touch control, tech drive and belt lifter. I also agree with the people that say filtration, which brings me to the Rainbow. Anyone with allergies should have a Rainbow. Wet dust does not fly. Rainbows with or without a hepa filter as long as you don't pick up non wettable particles, will greatly improve your allergies as well as less dust that settles on furniture after vacuuming.
Sincerely , PR-21 Bud Mattingly | ||
| Post# 206279 , Reply# 24 11/9/2012 at 13:42 (4,178 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Actually Bud, that reminds me, it may sound obvious but one of the things that used to set m Aunt off with her allergies was the use of furniture spray. They can be quite toxic smelling those sprays. Pledge is the worst (J&J company) - she can't stand the stuff when I use it. I wet damp cloth shelves - best way of getting the dust off if I can't be bothered to vacuum.
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| Post# 206290 , Reply# 26 11/9/2012 at 15:59 (4,178 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Good point. Not all HEPA filters are thus the same.
It reminds me of my old Hoover Telios cylinder vac. It used to have the option of a HEPA cartridge that slid in behind the dust bag to where the motor was located, not on top of the exhaust filter at the top of the vacuum. Did the job well but it also cut off the suction pretty drastically, and though it did this, the amount of pet hair odour in the bag seemed to be contained in the bag and no where else. The problem was the lack of power with the HEPA filter slid in place compared to the thinner tab. Hoover eventually replaced the Telios range with the Sensory where they moved the HEPA filter right on top of the exhaust filter to maintain suction and filtration and though it did a similar job, it wasn't as effective in terms of sealing bad odours in. Hoover eventually improved the problem by designing a newly improved "Pure Filt" high filtration dust bag. | ||
| Post# 206748 , Reply# 27 11/15/2012 at 05:31 (4,173 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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What about the Embedded Dirt Finder? "Carpet is clean when light turns green" | ||
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