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Post# 203209   10/9/2012 at 13:06 (4,210 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        

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hi again you may remember these two machines from a while back well i finally made a start on the 612 i decided to do a nut and bolt strip down and a paint job the machine runs well but on stripping down there was a lot of dust and grit in the motor so the motor has been stripped cleaned and reasembled ready to be refitted when the paint job is complete i know some of you dont agree with repainting these machines but i have two of them so one will be kept as it is and this one will have the full rebirth shall we say including one of my homemade bags can anyone tell me roughly how old this machine is the serial no is j190797 the j could be an o the other 612 serial is j139689 oh and has anyone any tips on polishing the bakelite hood ok now some photos

Post# 203211 , Reply# 1   10/9/2012 at 13:09 (4,210 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
motor

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strip down

Post# 203213 , Reply# 2   10/9/2012 at 13:11 (4,210 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
motor

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strip down

Post# 203214 , Reply# 3   10/9/2012 at 13:13 (4,210 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
motor

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strip down

Post# 203215 , Reply# 4   10/9/2012 at 13:15 (4,210 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
strip down

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fan caked in dirt

Post# 203216 , Reply# 5   10/9/2012 at 13:17 (4,210 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
more

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caked on dirt

Post# 203217 , Reply# 6   10/9/2012 at 13:20 (4,210 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
motor strip

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more muck

Post# 203218 , Reply# 7   10/9/2012 at 13:21 (4,210 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
wow!

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Imagine what it'll be like restored. And, to think: you stripping, right before us.. so to speak. All we need is music!

Post# 203219 , Reply# 8   10/9/2012 at 13:26 (4,210 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
the cleaning begins

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the comutator after cleaning the motor housing has also been cleaned and washed the bottom bearing has been greased and the top one oiled new brushes fitted the whole thing reasembled it runs even quieter now notice the wear on the comutator not bad when you consider how many times it must have revolved over the years

Post# 203221 , Reply# 9   10/9/2012 at 13:30 (4,210 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
the respray

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first coat i usually keep going with the coats till the can is empty then a couple of coats of clear enamel the underneath was done first

Post# 203222 , Reply# 10   10/9/2012 at 13:32 (4,210 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
respray

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the brown bits

Post# 203223 , Reply# 11   10/9/2012 at 13:38 (4,210 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
last one

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more brown bits i will post more pics of the reasembly soon and the finished machine along with its tools which are also going to get a respray ok thats it for now guys

Post# 203224 , Reply# 12   10/9/2012 at 13:41 (4,210 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
one last photo

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H O O V E R

Post# 203237 , Reply# 13   10/9/2012 at 14:08 (4,210 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

Awesome! Cant wait to see it when its complete!!

Daniel :-)


Post# 203346 , Reply# 14   10/10/2012 at 02:53 (4,209 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Cool!-the Hoover handles and parts in the garden-looks like you are growing Hoover parts----A vacuum cleaner farm!And yes-the Hoover motors are kinda bulletproof-the rotor's communtator has a groove worn in it-but even that-they still work fine.and the simple "horseshoe" magnet motor stator is intreging.Love how they kept it SIMPLE-good reason why these Hoovers can be still running strong today.

Post# 203372 , Reply# 15   10/10/2012 at 11:23 (4,209 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
more pics

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the new bag this is the second one of these i have made i know its not a perfect replica but anything is better than those replacement grey ones

Post# 203373 , Reply# 16   10/10/2012 at 11:28 (4,209 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
the brushroll

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the brushroll its the origional one its been stripped [it was full of dirt inside ]cleaned sprayed and reasembled with some new brush strips i just happen to have in my old van stock i have two new sets for the 119 as well

Post# 203377 , Reply# 17   10/10/2012 at 11:43 (4,209 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
ready for reasembly

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this is the main body and hood ready for reasembly the body has had 8 coats of gold paint and then to dull down the bright gold and to add a bit more protection its had 3 coats of clear celullose this just takes the bright shiney look away .The hood has been polished with Brasso then sprayed with celullose this instantly covers up any deep scratches

Post# 203378 , Reply# 18   10/10/2012 at 11:47 (4,209 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
more pics

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in this photo i have tried to show the diffrence between the old paint and the new the handle has been sprayed the the converter and other bits havnt you cant really see in the photo but the mach isnt to bad

Post# 203379 , Reply# 19   10/10/2012 at 12:02 (4,209 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
more bits

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ok thats it for now guys i will brobably put it back together over the weekend taking more pics . I said earlier that i had two of these machines the other one is in its origional state and will stay that way it belonged to my grandmother she had it from new when i was a little boy i was terrified of it as a toddler it towered above me with its search lamp staring at me and when switched on i would watch the bag inflate glued to the spot as soon as it was pushed towared me i would head for the cupboard under the stairs to hide

Post# 203405 , Reply# 20   10/10/2012 at 17:20 (4,209 days old) by jodan3399 (Brownsville, PA)        

Wow, can't wait to see it back together, it's going to be a stunner! Great job.

Post# 203406 , Reply# 21   10/10/2012 at 17:41 (4,209 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

Thats fantastic!! Again, can't wait to see the finished product!! :-)

Daniel :-)


Post# 203699 , Reply# 22   10/14/2012 at 12:03 (4,205 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
the reasembly

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ok guys the motor is in

Post# 203700 , Reply# 23   10/14/2012 at 12:06 (4,205 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
underneath

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wheels on and all the other bits and peices

Post# 203701 , Reply# 24   10/14/2012 at 12:08 (4,205 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
another

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brushroll in but wait theres somthing wrong in this photo ?

Post# 203702 , Reply# 25   10/14/2012 at 12:12 (4,205 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
finished product

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i would imagine it looked somthing like this when it came out of the box after fitting the handle of course

Post# 203703 , Reply# 26   10/14/2012 at 12:14 (4,205 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
another

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another

Post# 203704 , Reply# 27   10/14/2012 at 12:16 (4,205 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
next

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underneath

Post# 203705 , Reply# 28   10/14/2012 at 12:18 (4,205 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
next

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full frontal

Post# 203707 , Reply# 29   10/14/2012 at 12:23 (4,205 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
another

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the hardest thing on this job for me was refitting the flex its the origional although not rubber its pvc with the ribbing and still with that spring around the motor end a nightmare to get back inside the handle base

Post# 203708 , Reply# 30   10/14/2012 at 12:26 (4,205 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
next

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the paint really is a good match the camera seems to make it look lighter than it is

Post# 203710 , Reply# 31   10/14/2012 at 12:32 (4,205 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
last one

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ok guys this is the last one i even fitted a nice new 45 year old MK plug just to complete the period look now all i want is the house to match the hoover look out for the 119 revamp coming soon

Post# 203711 , Reply# 32   10/14/2012 at 12:49 (4,205 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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Wow!  What a great job! 


Post# 203754 , Reply# 33   10/14/2012 at 17:26 (4,205 days old) by guido (ITALY)        
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It was a simply amazing story ! Wonderful job ...and I also share 100% your idea of keeping one AS-IS and revamping the worst of the two, if you are lucky enough to have two of them. I did a similar job with a grey HOOVER 652A Senior ( well I have 9 HOOVER seniors at home, most of them are blue color but i also have the pink, the green ones ) but it was missing many parts and the chassis was much much damaged. So i felt free to dismantle it, repaint it, add the lost frontal lens ( bought as spares on internet ). The result is surprising anyway.
Listen : i have not understood one thing, would you be so kind to clarify : you painted the chassis with acrilic-spray paint many times but what did you use at the end ? Its a transparent paint also acrilic or what ? If i do it, is there the risk that it could make the previous paint "melt" together or ...I would like to know because - also - when i repainted my 1920's american HOOVER 541 I did not finish with such a treatment....maybe I should...thanks for your help ! GUIDO


Post# 203800 , Reply# 34   10/15/2012 at 00:32 (4,204 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
STUNNING is an

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understatement. It looks 'factory direct'. It was called, "The finest HOOVER cleaner ever built" over here. Kudos to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
John.


Post# 203836 , Reply# 35   10/15/2012 at 13:22 (4,204 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
the paint finish

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hi Guido the gold paint i used is too bright [if you know what i mean ]so the last fiew coats are of clear spray paint which dulls down the gold making the final finish more like the Hoover origional colour the clear paint is simply clear celulose sprayed directly onto the dry gold paint as long as you allow the paint to dry there wont be a problem with the paint melting as you put it the clear paint also protects against bumps and knocks although this machine wont be doing much work now its going to have a well earned retirement after its years of good service

Post# 203864 , Reply# 36   10/15/2012 at 18:10 (4,204 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)        

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Wow, Anthony. That is beautiful.

 

Over here, our Models 60 and 61 had different paint schemes than yours. Our 60 (the one with the square handle and handle release at the top near the grip) was similar in base color to the Model 28 that followed it after the War. The Model 61 was a slightly darker color on the base, almost with a tinge of purple undertone. That one had a round handle and a standard handle release at the bottom of the handle. Both machines were "Hygienisac" models, using the Hoover reusable inner paper bag. They never did give us a gold-based one, unfortunately.

 

Your paint job is spectacular. Congratulations on a beautiful job!


Post# 203875 , Reply# 37   10/15/2012 at 19:23 (4,204 days old) by pdub ()        
Anthony!

You have done an amazing and beautiful job restoring this Hoover. Thank you for sharing all the details along with the pictures. You make it all look so easy.

To make the bag did you first use an old one to make a pattern? Did you use a special type of fabric? I would love a new cloth bag for my Hoover 800 and this looks like the way to go.

thanks again,
Patrick


Post# 203958 , Reply# 38   10/16/2012 at 14:48 (4,203 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
Hi Pdub and portable.

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you have some amazing machines over there inthe states i never knew some of them existed till i joined this siteand i have been working with domestic apps for over 30 years would love to see some of them in the flesh so to speak its strange how over ther you had so many diffrent models and makes to choose from where as over here we had a limited choice not just vacuum cleaners but most electrical apps radios tvs and you have some
truly amazing looking washingmachines not to mention some of those fantastic console stereos [we call them radiograms over here ] I have just explained to a fellow member who has started a new thread about making bags if you look there you can read about how i did it and how i am about to atempt a bag for a pink 652 cheers guys Tony


Post# 203994 , Reply# 39   10/16/2012 at 22:39 (4,203 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)        
Congratulations !

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You did an amazing job of restoring. Great job on the motor. I hope you enjoy it. Just beautiful !

Post# 330077 , Reply# 40   7/25/2015 at 03:57 (3,191 days old) by nazard (Paris, France)        

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Hi
I also have this model and I do not see well how to take off the brushroll.
Is there a little part to move on a side?



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