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Post# 202603 10/3/2012 at 00:03 (4,220 days old) by Durango159  (State College, PA) |
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Seeking advice to recommend a vacuum for a Bed and Breakfast.
2 floors with Several large rooms. Primarily large open tile floors however there also several large medium- thick pile shag area rugs. Durable construction I would say is a high priority along with great maneuverability including being able to roll over its own cord. Electric power nozzle for a canister is a must along with large bare floor brush, which could be purchased separately. The option for 2 vacuums is a possibility but 1 vacuum would be better. The thought of a backpack vacuum was brought up by the owner however, it will be 1 person doing the cleaning. I think the backpack may be a real nuisance putting it on and off and make the user more tired since they'll be bending over all day cleaning bathtubs, dusting etc. Some of my ideas were the Panasonic MCCG917 or Royal Lexon SR30020. I thought of these for rubber wheels, great power nozzles with manual height adjustment, powerful. The Royal includes a large bare floor tool. The Panasonic is a standard hose size to accompany any number of generic larger floor brush. Currently the property has a Kenmore Intuition canister--see link-- which has a crushed hose, wheels are doing well, bare floor brush wheels are broken, telescopic wand doesn't lock into place, bare floor brush w/ wand assembly no longer locks into power nozzle. There is also a Dyson Ball on the property, which I don't think is the right option for their needs. Thanks very much!! CLICK HERE TO GO TO Durango159's LINK | ||
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Post# 202609 , Reply# 1 10/3/2012 at 00:42 (4,220 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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What about a nice  | ||
| Post# 202613 , Reply# 2 10/3/2012 at 05:55 (4,220 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
I guess | ||
| Post# 202618 , Reply# 4 10/3/2012 at 10:53 (4,220 days old) by kirbykid (Horseheads,New York 14845) | ||
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sanitaire. either a upright or one of there canisters. it is great for that stuff. lasts forever, light, doesnt need bags, and abusable | ||
| Post# 202625 , Reply# 5 10/3/2012 at 14:01 (4,220 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 202666 , Reply# 6 10/3/2012 at 15:58 (4,220 days old) by s31463221 (Frenchburg, KY) | ||
Aerus...
Formerly Electrolux does offer a Lux Guardian Commercial model upright vacuum cleaner. It is a dual motor system that is great for carpeting or bare floors, offers an optional accessory package with the combo dusting/upholstery tool, crevice tool, stretch hose, and wand for those hard to reach places and has a 50 foot cord so you don't have keep hunting for outlets to plug it into. They aren't too expensive either, I believe you can get a brand new one for under $800 with a 1 year commercial warranty. Yet another vacuum model to mull over. Good luck in whatever you choose for the B&B.
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Post# 202667 , Reply# 7 10/3/2012 at 16:02 (4,220 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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| Post# 202687 , Reply# 8 10/3/2012 at 20:33 (4,219 days old) by sbakerde (Millsboro, DE ) | ||
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ProTeam ProTeam is the same as the Prolux upright and they have one model with OBT. You can also find the same unit under the Perfect label. Both are great units and on board attachments is much easier than a separate attachment pack. | ||
| Post# 202706 , Reply# 9 10/3/2012 at 23:08 (4,219 days old) by kirbykid (Horseheads,New York 14845) | ||
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tape an electrolux 1205 to your back and you have a backpack vacum!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Post# 202825 , Reply# 10 10/5/2012 at 21:36 (4,217 days old) by vacu-finder () | ||
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If you are going to be Vacuuming on a daily basis, go for something really durable. Even an older uprite workhorse, if it needs some tweeking and or a complete over haul it's worth it in the long run. Buying new.....? A commercial grade machine possibly. | ||
| Post# 203539 , Reply# 11 10/12/2012 at 10:49 (4,211 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Meant to say, the Sebo Felix as Chris suggests would be a good one - but avoid Karcher's similar Sebo Dart based model, the CV300 which is effectively the same machine available in the U.S - it lacks the Felix's push button brush roll on/off function and lacks the adjustable handle height - same as the Sebo Dart.
If the Karcher is cheaply priced though, it can be further enhanced with Sebo's DISCO floor polisher head. Or, Windsor's Axcess predecessor, the FLEXAMATIC which can be purchased at cheaper prices being an older model. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 203876 , Reply# 14 10/15/2012 at 19:44 (4,207 days old) by guardsman69 () | ||
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I AGREE AND I HAVE MY HOOVER CH50000 PROFESSIONAL SERIES GUARDSMAN WITH A METAL BOTTOM PLATE AND A 4 BRUSH AGITATOR ....EVEN BETTER AT 169.99 | ||
| Post# 203898 , Reply# 15 10/15/2012 at 21:55 (4,207 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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If this Hoover is based on the Convertible, then it will mirror my UK Hoover Senior - say hello to scratches on hard floors if the all metal sole plate gets near it, let alone beater bars. Lets be practical here - the Hoover will rule supreme if you want to spend all day grooming carpets and ensuring a deep clean - but for quick cleaning on hard floors AND protecting the floor, forget it.
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| Post# 204484 , Reply# 18 10/22/2012 at 21:26 (4,200 days old) by kirbykid (Horseheads,New York 14845) | ||
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what did you or they pick??? | ||
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Post# 204503 , Reply# 19 10/23/2012 at 00:35 (4,200 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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It will be a canister, not sure what yet!!
I found out that the house is 11000 Square feet. So its not feasible for myself to clean the entire place in one day. Most of the areas will not get dirty often at all, as the B&B part is treated as a hobby, their primary income/ line of work/ is outside the house.
Have not bought anything yet. She was thinking of a Dyson canister, and I looked at 3 Dyson canisters at Sears and responded to her about how terrible I thought they were. Excellent suction, and smooth, quiet manuevering was good on the Dysons, but the teeny tiny air turbine power head, extremely short hose and lack of good bare floor tool, were extremely unappealing for the needs. I think a power head canister is the best option. Noise isn't too big of a factor as canisters aren't very loud and the hallway outside of the B&B bedrooms is ceramic tile. Some of the carpets are the very thick, long stranded yarn like carpets which are hard to clean. I may end up using her Dyson DC25 upright for those. However, I do still want a power head canister for other rugs and of course vacuuming the double wide 18 step stair case, and miles of tile floor, an easy rolling canister would be best option. I found a pair of metal wands and 16" wide bare floor brush laying around which she didn't know about, so I can use those on her Kenmore Intuition canister and that has solved much of our problem for now!! | ||
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Post# 206745 , Reply# 23 11/15/2012 at 01:24 (4,177 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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The owner of the Bed & Breakfast did research of her own. She purchased and we are trying a Sebo Airbelt D4 canister vacuum. I was out of town for 2 weeks but I did try it today on one small area. I only used it a little cause I was cleaning some really dirty areas and didn't want to use the new machine for that stuff, so I used the old Kenmore which she's probably going to donate somewhere.
I guess we'll see how the Sebo does. I have no real experience with one, I know many people love them. The power head doesn't seem too powerful to me. I like the EZ Access panel for removing and cleaning the brush roll though. After about 10 minutes of use I'm surprised for that price on a machine they cheaped out on several things: --On/off for brush roll is a tiny button on top of power head, that you have to bend down to shut off. --On/off switch for canister is on canister only and not labeled, Not great position or size for foot operation either. --Cord rewind button is a tiny thin bar, also not labeled -- Bag door is a P.I.T.A to close. Checked bag today and took several shots to shut door, I removed and made sure the bag was installed right. Bag door seems flimsy. Bag does not fill up compartment. -- Attachments are hidden in back of machine and bare floor tool does not store on board. -- Manual height adjuster doesn't do much. Didn't see much difference from positions 1-4. I think the Kenmore better adjusted to the thicker style rug I cleaned today. Machine got stuck on small area rug, the nozzle shut itself off a few times. | ||
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Post# 206751 , Reply# 24 11/15/2012 at 06:26 (4,177 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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The bag in the Sebo D4 inflates as it fills-all Filtrete bags are like that. | ||
| Post# 206795 , Reply# 25 11/15/2012 at 21:00 (4,176 days old) by vacu-finder () | ||
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Uprite One that has the bare floor Selector and on-board tools.........who needs to change from an uprite to a cannister to finish a job.? | ||
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Post# 206816 , Reply# 26 11/16/2012 at 01:37 (4,176 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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Dean,
This is an 11,000 square foot house with 18 step staircase. I am the primary one using the machine. It takes several hours a week in-order to cover the entire property. There are many areas that collect daily dirt from cat, dog and several people that live at the property full time. 90% of the time I use the bare floor tool for cleaning hard floors but on occasion I may spot dirt on the hard floor after vacuuming an area rug with power head, so its nice to turn off the agitator and grab that dirt. Then there are numerous sofas throughout the propery that have dog hair etc. I pause vacuuming the floors in that area, touch up the sofa and resume floors. In a normal house it would be normal for me to vacuum all of the bare floors on one floor, mop the hard floors, put everything back and then reattach the powerhead and do all of the carpets on that entire floor. But in a property this size its a completely different ballgame!! In heavy duty cleanings I have out the mop, bucket, vacuum, rags, pledge, windex, etc. I only want one vacuum out for that area, and not have to drag 2 vacuums to every room!! | ||
| Post# 206839 , Reply# 27 11/16/2012 at 11:13 (4,176 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Rob, major kudos to you but I think as time goes on you'll find the Sebo D4 meets most requirements. However, the fail safe of putting the on button on the main dial on the body is a safety aspect that is also added to the Sebo K series. Once you push it on, the machine can be activated by the press buttons on the handle. Also once the plug is switched on through the mains electricity in your home, the LED light comes on around the blue bezel that indicates the motor is running and the LEDs spin progressively faster the more power you add via the push buttons on the handle.
The on/off on the power head is supposed to be used with the foot, thus not inciting you to bend over - it is after all the same brush roll on/off used with the Felix and indeed the same type of floor head that uses a 175 watt motor to turn the brush roll alone before the 1250 watt motor in the U.S/Canadian versions. Sebo don't fit aggressively high run motors in the power nozzle as they don't need to - the stiff bristles on the blue brush roll sees to that PLUS the high suction. The hard floor brush will simply slot into the main central parking position - though I see no difference as to what Miele offer - they don't offer a position for another large floor head to be stored in situ whilst the other floor head is in use. True, whilst you need to store the hard brush elsewhere unless it is used all the time compared to the power head, it isn't any different to what Miele offer - or indeed several European brands. Installing a bag is really easy - you just slip the two holes over the retainer ring, allow the bag to lay flat and shut the door. If it doesn't close, its simply because you haven't put the plastic cartridge against the metal loop. Eventually as time goes on. you'll realise the D series isn't like all vacuums. I do realise that you may think the points you have raised are "cheap," but Sebo do things differently. I don't always agree with them, but I have NEVER bent over to turn a brush roll on/off with the ET-1 floor head. Have a look at this video by a UK member also on here. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 206859 , Reply# 28 11/16/2012 at 15:07 (4,176 days old) by vacu-finder () | ||
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Like I said you only need one machine.. "I only want one vacuum out for that area, and not have to drag 2 vacuums to every room!! " | ||
| Post# 206929 , Reply# 29 11/17/2012 at 17:23 (4,175 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Completely forgot to say.. if you're the owner of the electric SEBO D4, K3 or even have a Felix or commercial Dart upright, you can use the Disco polisher head for polishing real hard wood flooring, marble and general hard floors. It also sucks up the dust collected from the polishing process. Thus, another attachment you can use if you have a large home and don't want to cart around two or three machines for specific jobs that Sebo have made available from one machine.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 318365 , Reply# 30 3/15/2015 at 02:34 (3,327 days old) by MattMcPhee () | ||
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How about a Proteam Upright Vacuum Cleaner? | ||
| Post# 319431 , Reply# 31 3/27/2015 at 10:29 (3,315 days old) by reo580 (Holland, Michigan) | ||
Filter Queen Princess 3 ( I rebuilt one for my church) does a pretty good job.
Also a rebuilt Tri-Star CXL/ DXL will be good for what you want. I'd recommend putting on a longer cord (50 foot) and possibly upgrading to a Sweep n Groom power nozzle. The old Compact/ Tri-Star is one tough canister! I think a really good rebuilt Tri-star/Compact could be had for 500 ish. Much less if you know how to do the work. Go with a new Lamb two stage motor. There are only a few wires, a switch and a motor inside a Compact- no variable speed motors, relays or any electronic BS to go bad on it. It's a tough, simple vacuum, lightweight, built to last.
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