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Thread Number: 18177
My latest aqcuisition - Hoover Ranger |
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| Post# 199096 , Reply# 1 9/4/2012 at 10:50 (4,245 days old) by madabouthoovers () | ||
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View of the underside - has a good fan and spindle! 
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| Post# 199097 , Reply# 2 9/4/2012 at 10:51 (4,245 days old) by madabouthoovers () | ||
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Serial plate - Seems to date from August 1975? 
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Post# 199107 , Reply# 4 9/4/2012 at 11:29 (4,245 days old) by gottahaveahoove  (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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That was pure HOOVER | ||
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Post# 199120 , Reply# 6 9/4/2012 at 12:18 (4,245 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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I'll have to round up alll of my rangers | ||
| Post# 199125 , Reply# 7 9/4/2012 at 12:27 (4,245 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
Well well, t'was you who won it!
I must say if he had a postage option I would have been tempted to bid myself, even though I already have a... 1977 HOOVER SENIOR RANGER U4014! Ha ha, yes, I do - believe it or not. That hood is indeed original, that was the difference between the U4002 and U4014, the Hedlite lens was white on the U4014 and the same colour as the hood on the U4002. I'm sure you are very pleased with your purchase, as am I with my U4014 even 10 months after purchase. Have you a tool kit for it ? If not, you should buy one. Contrary to common belief they are useful. Alright, you wouldn't do a thorough above floor clean with the tools, but there is more than enough suction for going along the skirting boards or dusting with the fantastic dusting brush. | ||
| Post# 199126 , Reply# 8 9/4/2012 at 12:30 (4,245 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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Post# 199128 , Reply# 9 9/4/2012 at 12:34 (4,245 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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They are great, indeed
Did something happen to the 'badge'? It seems way off....22 or 23 degrees, depending on the person to whom you speak. Dick Pike swears 22.5, I think. Not that crucial. The tools had the great Tuflex hose. In my opinion, the LAST of the good hoses.
I have a yellow, red, blue Ranger. I'll 'show you mine", soon. | ||
| Post# 199132 , Reply# 11 9/4/2012 at 12:42 (4,245 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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Yes I did just notice that John, it is at about 70 degrees I'd say, WAY OFF!
Mine is fine though, if anything a little too straight. Trust me John when I say I absolutely ADORE the hose I have in my Senior tool kit. It is thick, glossy, stretchable, strong and just GORGEOUS! I would love to see "yours", I didn't know for sure if America had the Ranger series, but it seems they did. A blue one ? Better lock your doors tonight, I may be over to steal it! | ||
| Post# 199135 , Reply# 13 9/4/2012 at 12:46 (4,245 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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Actually Steve, the brush roll and bellows can still be bought from online spares websites.
As for the bulb, yes it is a 25W Pygmy with a Bayonet Cap. When you buy bags and belts, PLEASE buy Genuine Hoover parts. Nothing compares to them, especially the bags. I just put a Genuine H1 bag in my 1977 Ranger on Sunday just passed for the first time (before then I'd used ElecTruePart bags) and the suction just about doubled! | ||
| Post# 199136 , Reply# 14 9/4/2012 at 12:47 (4,245 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 199137 , Reply# 15 9/4/2012 at 12:48 (4,245 days old) by madabouthoovers () | ||
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The blue ranger is like this one I think - the US version: 
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| Post# 199138 , Reply# 16 9/4/2012 at 12:48 (4,245 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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Post# 199141 , Reply# 17 9/4/2012 at 12:55 (4,245 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Jamie!
I have 2 blue ones.
the Ranger was not terribly long-lived here. AS you know, your "Junior' was our "lightweight, or, "apartment" Your "Convertible" was our "Dial A Matic". Our "Convertible" was your "Senior". Yes please use ONLY Genuine HOOVER bags, etc. I stood in the plant where all of the HOOVER bags are made. THat'll end on New Year's Eve, sadly. The paper used IS simply, better. Sounds like you, indeed, have a superior hose there. John | ||
| Post# 199144 , Reply# 19 9/4/2012 at 13:01 (4,245 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 199146 , Reply# 21 9/4/2012 at 13:02 (4,245 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 199148 , Reply# 22 9/4/2012 at 13:07 (4,245 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 199149 , Reply# 23 9/4/2012 at 13:09 (4,245 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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Post# 199150 , Reply# 24 9/4/2012 at 13:14 (4,245 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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The owner's manual
(leaflet) over there.... clearly states: For optimim perfoemance, it is impearative that you use only GEHUINE HOOVER parts.
They really DO make the world of difference. Non-HOOVER belts were used in a Convertible, and, it strained too much, etc...it was NEVER the same, again. THe Converyible was named that way because ,:All you have to do is insert the attachments and the motor clicks into high-speed. It "converts" into an above the floor cleaner. Thus....CONVERTIBLE. The Dial A Matic was a bit different. You could insert the hose to clean above the floor. But, THe DIAL set the suction strength. There were different strength for FLOOR cleaning, OR for TOOL use. You simply turned the DIAL. There is "lesson ONE' in American HOOVER. Quiz tomorrow, lol. John | ||
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Post# 199153 , Reply# 25 9/4/2012 at 13:17 (4,245 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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bad spelling, | ||
| Post# 199158 , Reply# 27 9/4/2012 at 13:52 (4,245 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 199159 , Reply# 28 9/4/2012 at 13:54 (4,245 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 199169 , Reply# 29 9/4/2012 at 15:18 (4,244 days old) by tommymilan (milano) | ||
To my experience Mod U 4002 was bottom fill and Mod U 4014 was top fill, the same top filling system as that used in later juniors, taking the same bags as previous models. the only other version of the "ranger" vacs was the commercial, grey with huge reusable cloth bag and later in the early eighties, mod U 4197 with USA top fill system (it was was a USA made vac) red hood , white handle and greyish plaid like bag with red details. See links!
Best Regards, Tommy | ||
| Post# 199234 , Reply# 31 9/5/2012 at 06:12 (4,244 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 199244 , Reply# 32 9/5/2012 at 07:33 (4,244 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London) | ||
Actually While Steve's 4002 does appear to be all original, the one in the picture above has a replacement bag
Steve, your 4002 does seem to be in very good condition and you are lucky that the cable hooks are both intact - these often get damaged or broken off all together. The headlamp lens would have originally been white, the discolouration of yours is very common with this model - either the lens changes colour of its own accord or the colour bleeds in from the surronding hood.
Whatever, its a very nice find you have there
Al | ||
| Post# 199245 , Reply# 33 9/5/2012 at 08:04 (4,244 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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So sorry, yes that does have a replacement bag.
I wasn't paying attention when I posted that, it was a spur of the moment thing. So the lens would have been white (like my U4014) when new ? I presume the U4014 had a better quality lens then that didn't discolour ? I know what you mean about the cord hooks. My top cord hook is fine, but the bottom one has a chip which leaves a jagged edge that I almost always scrape my hand on while wrapping the flex around the hooks after use. | ||
| Post# 199253 , Reply# 35 9/5/2012 at 10:00 (4,244 days old) by madabouthoovers () | ||
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Here is a pic of the Ranger with the bulb fitted: 
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| Post# 199256 , Reply# 37 9/5/2012 at 10:14 (4,244 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 199261 , Reply# 39 9/5/2012 at 10:34 (4,244 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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It looks like you've got that angle down to a T!
I would think that it should last longer being a candle bulb, but who knows. I haven't had the bulb go on my Senior in my ownership (10 months) and I don't know how long it was in there before me buying it. You never know, it could even be the original bulb. You are NOT using the Ranger as a daily driver!? That is abominable! Ha ha, nah, I understand. I would use my Ranger daily if it were not for the fact I don't want to put too much ware and tare on it plus the handiness of the permanently fitted long hose on my Turbopower 2 is much more suited for daily "running the Hoover over". | ||
| Post# 199266 , Reply# 41 9/5/2012 at 10:57 (4,244 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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That is all too true Steve.
I am lucky in that apart from the lower cord hook mine is 99% MINT except for about two or three VERY light scratches which you don't notice after a good polish and buff. Did you ask your parents if they had the tool kit by the way ? It would be a very good thing to have for when you do bring it out of the closet, as it were... | ||
| Post# 199275 , Reply# 42 9/5/2012 at 11:20 (4,244 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London) | ||
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"ware and tare" | ||
| Post# 199280 , Reply# 43 9/5/2012 at 11:27 (4,244 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 199648 , Reply# 44 9/6/2012 at 14:47 (4,242 days old) by borusa (Edinburgh) | ||
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| Post# 199650 , Reply# 45 9/6/2012 at 14:53 (4,242 days old) by hooverboy81 (Myrtle Place) | ||
My Ranger | ||
| Post# 199651 , Reply# 46 9/6/2012 at 14:55 (4,242 days old) by borusa (Edinburgh) | ||
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Post# 199761 , Reply# 49 9/7/2012 at 02:58 (4,242 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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"DJ Copy" items written-spots and announcements-written in caps for easy reading on air by radio station disc jockeys.The items were put on a copyboard in front of the DJ's microphone. | ||
| Post# 199768 , Reply# 50 9/7/2012 at 03:48 (4,242 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London) | ||
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4003
What about the U4003 model? I appreciate the headlight apperature is rather different to the UK built Ranger, but otherwise it is very similar - apart from the switch arrangements. The UK Ranger (and indeed the South African one I have too) did not have the height adjuster "window" on the top of the hood but similar to the 4003 at the base of the handle on the other side to the handle release.
As far as I know, we has three domestic varities of Ranger made in the UK - the 4002 as noted above in a very attractive yellow colour, U4014 in green - this also had the top fill bag (this model has been posted about so much in the last few months I am sick looking at it) and a later exclusive model (about 1982 or so) in a rather attractive cream and brown finish. There was also at least one (although I am pretty sure there are more) commercial version in grey with no headlight, metal cord grips, the "traditional" handgrip and a shake out bag. We also had two US produced models - the 4003 and the 4143 (I think - "tomato ketchup" LOLOL). Al | ||
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Post# 199822 , Reply# 52 9/7/2012 at 14:01 (4,241 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Ok, I found 2 of them | ||
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Post# 199824 , Reply# 53 9/7/2012 at 14:03 (4,241 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Up close and personal | ||
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Post# 199830 , Reply# 55 9/7/2012 at 14:23 (4,241 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Yes | ||
| Post# 199831 , Reply# 56 9/7/2012 at 14:28 (4,241 days old) by madabouthoovers () | ||
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I noticed too they dont appear to have a foot operated on-off switch, is that an American thing as I am sure I read most of your vacs have on-off switches on the handle somewhere. Are the switches on the back of the handle? | ||
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Post# 199832 , Reply# 57 9/7/2012 at 14:30 (4,241 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Even on all of the older ones | ||
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Post# 199833 , Reply# 58 9/7/2012 at 14:31 (4,241 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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That photo was from an old minimeet. | ||
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Post# 199839 , Reply# 59 9/7/2012 at 14:45 (4,241 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Yes, the regular cleaners all have the switch in the handle | ||
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Post# 199842 , Reply# 60 9/7/2012 at 14:47 (4,241 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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The old Lark, Apartment, (lightweight) YOUR 'junior' | ||
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Post# 199843 , Reply# 61 9/7/2012 at 14:50 (4,241 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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All of the Dial A Matics (your Convertible) | ||
| Post# 199847 , Reply# 63 9/7/2012 at 15:01 (4,241 days old) by madabouthoovers () | ||
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The UK TP4, on sale now, next to a UK hoover Freedom, also with foot switch 
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Post# 199848 , Reply# 64 9/7/2012 at 15:05 (4,241 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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I agree totally about the Guardsman.
One could easily 'kick the bag'. Our apartments, (Junior over there) has the switch in the exact same spot as yours.
The new plastic Elites were made with the slide switch half way down the cleaner. It was cheaper to do that. It was NOT progress. All the new HOOVERS have the swithch back on top, but, in the front. Oh, well, you can't have everything. Where would you put it? Hope the photos helped. | ||
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Post# 199854 , Reply# 66 9/7/2012 at 15:28 (4,241 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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yep, | ||
| Post# 199884 , Reply# 67 9/7/2012 at 18:09 (4,241 days old) by tommymilan (milano) | ||
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| Post# 199994 , Reply# 70 9/8/2012 at 17:31 (4,240 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-) | ||
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"Here's to the Hoover Senior Ranger!" Succeeded by the Hoover Senior Powerplus, as you all know. (Apologies to ryry_87, for nickin' his pic!) 
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