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Post# 197344   8/25/2012 at 16:10 (2,772 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)        

Dyson have just released the dc41 animal complete! It has a new tangle free turbo brush included. Now here is the kicker, acording to my source this is to be the replacement to the dc28! What I wonder is why dyson is getting rid of their last upright that cleans carpets well, I mean the dc41 is ok at it but not even close to the dc17 or the dc28. what are your thoughts?

Scott



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Post# 197353 , Reply# 1   8/25/2012 at 17:45 (2,772 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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My thoughts ? No Dyson cleans carpets well! Hence me being overjoyed that my carpets are now free of the dreaded Dyson. Still need to replace it with something though.

Can't quite think what brand I want though... I want something that will beat, sweep and clean, but who does that ?

Damn, my memory...


Post# 197364 , Reply# 2   8/25/2012 at 19:09 (2,772 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)        

( Quick everyone! this is our chance! )

Uh, Jamie the brand you are thinking of is Goblin, remember?Laughing

Anyways, The dc17 and dc28 are much better on carpets than a dc04, I think my dc17 even outcleans my convertables by a bit!

That's why I can't believe they are getting rid of the dc28!

Scott

P.S I'm glad I live in Texas, harder for you and John to get me!


Post# 197365 , Reply# 3   8/25/2012 at 19:12 (2,772 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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DYSON OUT CLEANS A HOOVER!? Preposterous.

Come on John, grab that hammer and we'll make a start for Texas tonight!


Post# 197368 , Reply# 4   8/25/2012 at 19:29 (2,772 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)        

Darn, he remembers, oh well.  Jamie, when you and John get here if you could put your hammers down for a moment I can PROVE the dc17 cleans better!

How do you plan to get over here Jamie?

Scott


Post# 197414 , Reply# 5   8/26/2012 at 00:55 (2,772 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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I wanna see proof that Dyson outcleans Hoover, cause I am definitely not aboard that ship.

I appreciate that Dyson has the best bagless cyclonic machine on the market. I appreciate that while a Dyson does lose suction, it is maintain more of it for a much longer duration of time in comparison with the rest of the bagless market. However, their baseplates are a disgrace and their use of agitation although better than the past still needs work.

Please note that I have not intention of trying the Shark Navigator. It's ugly, looks more like a toy, and I've heard terrible things about their other vacuums. The Shark Steam mop with interchangeable cleaning heads that one of my clients has from them is completely useless. I use an H20 Steam mop instead.

However, in my book a bagless Dyson does NOT outclean a decent Hoover. Notice my use of the word "decent." As Hoover is a brand that makes machines to fit several budgets, some machines clean terrific and some other models not so much. With a Hoover, generally the more expensive the machine, the better the cleaning power. The exception to that rule for them is the Tempo upright U5140-900 which is an excellent, powerful cleaner. It's not advertised but it has Windtunnel technology.

I am unhappy that Hoover is outsourcing a lot of their brush rolls to CWP. I think CWP is a good generic manufacturer but I still like Hoover agitators. Their bristle configurations and material were good. They only needed better sealing for bearings and improving their thin plastic endcaps.

For my clients and personal usage, my carpets look the best and feel cleanest after a Hoover has been used on them. Not my Riccar 1700, not my Bissell PowerForce upright, not my Kirby G4, not my Kenmore Whispertone canister, but a Hoover sweeps, cleans and grooms them the best!


Post# 197440 , Reply# 6   8/26/2012 at 05:18 (2,771 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Hear hear Rob! It's my thorough clean day today (as it is every Sunday) so I shall bring out the 1977 Hoover Senior and give the whole house (well, carpets technically since we have hard flooring in the living room and kitchen - yuk!) a good clean!

Even with the pathetic hose suction (which I still find usable and do use) nothing gets away from the fact that - It beats... As it sweeps... As it cleans.

NOTHING outcleans a Hoover, not a thing, especially not a Dyson with as much beating power as a Barbie doll.


Post# 197441 , Reply# 7   8/26/2012 at 05:22 (2,771 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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THESE are what you call true Vacuum Cleaners!

Both equipped with tried and tested Agitator brush rolls, 100% better than any Dyson.

By the way John, I know I've sinned by having that Junior TOUCHING a Dyson, I shall buy some Holy Water ASAP.


Post# 197463 , Reply# 8   8/26/2012 at 08:55 (2,771 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)        

Rob, I was mostly saying that to kid with Jamie. While my dc17 did remove some grit out of my carpets after several slow cleanings with my 707 convertable, it is mostly an example of " who ever goes last wins " plus the dyson has such stiff brushes that I would never use it on ceartain rugs. So the hoover does provide better overall carpet care.

Also Jamie, you better sanitize that Hoover ASAP!

Scott


Post# 197501 , Reply# 9   8/26/2012 at 13:34 (2,771 days old) by sanitairered (Michigan)        

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The mini turbo brush looks like an over engineered gimmick to me, much like a lot of Dysons now a days. I wish they still made the DC17 and DC18; those were great machines!

Post# 197555 , Reply# 10   8/26/2012 at 23:40 (2,771 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well Jamie, get yourself a Sebo X1 Automatic. Refurbished of course, unless you buy ry-ry's ultra rare black one.


Post# 197558 , Reply# 11   8/26/2012 at 23:49 (2,771 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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All mini turbo brushes are not created equal. I've had lots of trouble with Dirt Devil ones, and it was used on a very powerful suction equipped, wake the dead Dirt Devil Vision Turbo. My Hoover S3639 Hoover Windtunnel bagged canister has one which works quite well. Tried it on my Hoover PowerMax canister, and the PowerMax although I love those canisters don't produce enough suction for the turbo brush.

My clients Hoover Anniversary Windtunnel canister S3670 has a turbo nozzle and it does fairly well.

Have not tried the Kenmore handimate. Kenmore's PowerMate Jr. is not very impressive to me. The bristles are quite soft and I find it hard to puch/glide over the surface. I feel like they more or less tear through the carpet to move across it, if that makes sense?

Anyone else have strange experiences with Kenmore Powermate Jr.?


Post# 197571 , Reply# 12   8/27/2012 at 04:52 (2,770 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I have said before Ryan in case you did not hear me, I have absolutely no money let alone enough for a Sebo, refurbished or not.

Post# 197574 , Reply# 13   8/27/2012 at 05:04 (2,770 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Excuses, excuses, excuses - better start saving then!


Post# 197578 , Reply# 14   8/27/2012 at 05:28 (2,770 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I don't know whether it was meant to be or not but I find that very insulting. I am trying my hardest to find work but it is just not there.



Post# 197595 , Reply# 15   8/27/2012 at 08:02 (2,770 days old) by baglessball ()        

There is ALWAYS care work..

Post# 197600 , Reply# 16   8/27/2012 at 08:44 (2,770 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I'm looking, trust me. Anything comes up I can physically do - I'LL DO!

Post# 306219 , Reply# 17   11/15/2014 at 07:34 (1,960 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
SEBO X1

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Sebo X1 you want Jamie? Try looking on Gumtree locally to you, I got one a few days ago for £20, with 10 bags and all tools. The only problem is a crack in the bag door, but there's no immediate loss of suction.





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