Rolls is correct, this is an update version of the Slalom and a blatent rival to the Dyson ball cleaners. I think the cyclone design is different as these don't use the same "Airvolution" cyclone as the Slalom and Freedom, which was very similar to the original Dyson dual cyclone.

Not used the Globe, but the slalom wasn't a bad vac. Very flimsey though and not very well made. Quite bulky to use too.

Sorry Jamie, but I can't get excited by Hoover products anymore seeing as they're not really Hoover.

The Slalom was only 1200w.

I used the Dyson DC38 for the first time this weekend and that's only 1050w. I believe the DC40 is a similar motor wattage.

LOL, Jamie I think if the moderators wanted to delete it, they would do so regardless of permission given by the starter :P.

I do agree though that it is nice to see some lower wattage, high performing cleaners on the market. Just need to get Miele down from 2200w to the 1200w they use in the states and in Europe. Clearly, we're the only country obssessed with high motor wattage.

Manners do cost nothing but you've been warned before about creating multiple threads. I may not be a moderator but I do take advantage of the search location bar in which you should in the future to avoid the same thread appearing later in the list. 

As for Miele - well, they still have that S6290 "Silence" with the 1200 watt motor. I suppose it will be a matter of time before more Eco versions will be released. Miele in Germany have an S8 with lower motors. One has to remember though that whilst customers want one thing, its the brands who stipulate what they can sell without models becoming less popular due to power and thus accordingly, when a low watt motor vacuum is priced the same as a high powered one, it can be confusing to the buyer.

I know that Sebo did have a K1 Eco out a few years ago in the UK but it didn't take off very well and buyers weren't interested in the lower power on a suction only vacuum cleaner, i.e. without a power nozzle on board. Sebo also sell a D1/2 Eco in Germany, but again its a matter of sales and what people want - and by now most buyers want power.

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I see Hoover have gone and brought out another Pure Power, the PU2122. Not even listed as yet on Hoover UK website. 

Steve - based on the fact that the new Globe swivels, it is probably aimed at the swivelling upright rivals - bagged and bagless.  I had the previous Slalom model and it was nimble enough though could also be heavy depending on the daft rotary suction outlet dial located on the base. The Purepower PU2122 ia also being listed on www.very.co.uk..., a website that has been mentioned on here before for new machines like new Vax uprights that have yet to appear on the UK home site. Seems like its a site that Hoover and vac fans in general should check out if they are into contemporary machines/new launches.

On the subject, I've noticed Argos is one of the most expensive places to buy Numatic cleaners. My sister got a Hetty not so long back - it was £109 in Argos. I told her to shop elsewhere and get a better deal - ended up picking it up for £89.99 in Homebase.

well, not necessarily. Homebase is owned by the Home Retail Group, which also owns Argos. They sell a lot of furniture and housewares as well as DIY materials. Last time I was in there, they had a whole range of vacs

Hoover.co.uk seldom check their listings and yet they use reevoo.com to support their products, never checking sometimes that the majority of the reviews for some of the models advertised receive poor ratings. Sadly Hoover UK website is nothing short of shocking for mistakes, and tells a lot to the interested consumer who is about to buy one of their products. 

Many years ago yours truly worked for Comet and then John Lewis as a merchant product buyer. I did the job quite well but then I discovered as to WHY franchises advertise the machines so highly.

Folks, they do so because each company like JL, Comet et al buy the products direct from the manufacturer, usually at elevated prices and not before any discounts. As soon as the first stock of products are sold, the companies then compete with one another on pricing to attract buyers. 

That is the reason to why prices fall and rise - one only needs to look at the Vax website and www.very.co.uk... to see the changing prices before looking at the high street names like Comet, Currys, JL, House of Fraser's, Argos etc. 

Some franchises are also fed up with price comparisons where the consumer will haggle over pricing to get the lowest deal. This is why, effectively John Lewis got fed up with buyers demanding cheaper prices for the Sebo X4 Extra - one of JL's best sellers for upright vacuums. Thus, why the Sebo X4 Excel exists - it is an exclusive model that is only available from John Lewis. 

Yes, but when do Hoover ever listen? There isn't a conventional upright on the market bar the Miele S7 that has a variable suction control. That would be too hard for Hoover to do, otherwise they'd have done it by now. I miss the bag fill indicator light that the original Pure Power models had - Hoover just keep blanking off the indicator plate on all of their PP uprights now, and it looks horrendously cheap. 

Im still keeping my beady eye on the look out for the new Hoover Telios Plus. It is already on the continent but the UK don't seem to have that machine, for the moment.

Woohoo, sure enough Currys have got the new Hoover Telios in stock. Shame it has a 2300 watt motor! That's more than the Sebo K1 or Miele S6 or S8! However it only costs £90 for the moment.

Shame it also has a 3.2 litre dust bag and a decibel rating of 77.

Good luck there. I just looked at the Globe online - it may well be low wattage but it has a 85 dbl rating - no thanks - that has to be the highest Ive ever seen in a long time.

Sadly its the same with a lot of products these days - I found that with my Miele S6 Ecoline. It has a 1200 watt motor compared to the standard 2000 watt models - and it was a higher priced offering than the basic blue one Miele sell - plus the Ecoline is noisier. Sadly not all low watt vacuums are the same though, but it seems that most mass brands are elevating the price on low power - when there was a time when the opposite was much cheaper back in the day.

Well if the EU are going to do that with machines, it should include hair dryers. For those who moan about high watts in a vacuum cleaner, the latest hairdryers on the market are 2200 watt and rising - how can that be safe on your ears??

If the Greenray Purepower has disappeared, then it could well be out of stock. But then again, it could be a sign that the range is finally on its way out. I mean, just how far will Hoover go to putting more power into their bagged uprights? The PU2122 is just another coloured version from the blue PU2121 and red PU2110 - all of which have 2100 watts. I notice Argos have also dropped £10 off the silver PU2122 to £79-99, so time will tell! 

Thank you for that info Mark - Steve - well said & a spot on analysis.

I owned a U2464 Autosense many moons ago and like a few other members on here, thought that the Hoover was the best thing since sliced bread - I soon learnt however, after collecting other brands and models that the Hoover TP2 Autosense just didn't make any sense at all where the power adjustment was concerned. I was never one to wholly trust in my microwave's auto cook programs and the same applied to the Autosense feature on the TP2 - I was annoyed that I couldn't program the machine to stay in the low power all the time, but rather having to put up with the medium and high motor modes which resulted in putting up with the extra noise. 

I don't trust air watts at all, other than perhaps with Dyson vacuums as my own experience with them does maintain suction all of the time even when the dust bin is bursting at the seams. As you know Dyson suction design and the filters are different from the twin filters that even Hoover's Airvolution, Vax Mach Air etc all now have, even if they are all qualifying for "no loss of suction." Unless you buy yourself an air watt metre, you'll never get the true figure all of the time - not when filters keep clogging continually in use. 

Argos tend to get information wrong - are they still showing the Miele S6 exclusive white bagged cylinder vacuum nestled in with the bagged uprights? They seem to be unable to place that vacuum in the right section. Also I just took a screen shot of the Globe info from Currys, the noise level I mentioned in an earlier thread to Jamie, is really quite shocking.

Yes but Hoover UK are notorious for mistakes as well - see Rolls_Rapide's posting regarding the Purepower (post number 23 on this thread) where bag indicators shown in the specs list can't be found when he used the magnifier zoom function on the actual model photo. Also my own experience of Hoover UK's info has been misleading in the past to say the least. Half the time the home company don't tell the website admin the right information. I once wrote to Hoover UK to moan about their lack of precise info on their site and they passed off their excuse that the UK website isn't actually run by Hoover UK but by an independent company who are paid by Hoover to run the site.. 

Nice of Hoover UK to actually send me a letter of reply though. I wrote an online review about Hoover UK many years ago. See link. 

Oh don't apologise - I completely agree with you.

The Purepower could have been improved though - I think Hoover had run out of funding by the time Candy took over - or that Candy were too stingy in supplying funds for floorcare in general- and more interested in improving their larger appliance division. My parents had a 12 year old Candy dishwasher and swore by it, before buying Bosch, but our neighbour had a hellish time with Candy washing machines, often leaking or drive belt problems. 

I liked the original Purepower models with the bag fill neon indicator, even though they were far more noisier than the TP2/3's. I can remember using a yellow 1300 watt once at friends and thinking that my other Turbopower 2 was so much better (I had the 900 "Special" yellow one with the blanked off neon LED panel)  If it wasn't for the Purepower, there would have been no Vortex, Cyclean, Hurricane mk1 or whatever else Hoover tarted up and called it bagless, based on the PP. 

The One actually got slated by Which initially which is why Hoover were forced to recall the model at numerous times. After Hoover brought out a new-improved model, I think Which found little difference.

The minor false-advertising Hoover personally make me think twice about was the short-excitement fiasco Hoover UK created when they promised they were bringing the Hoover Junior back. I was so excited at the time but then shortly dismayed to realise the Junior was nothing more than Hoover's European Athyss stick vac - and two of the Junior stick vacs only lasted a short time with me, with breakages to the main carry handle and seams buckling on the body. It was also quite a noisy stick vac for all that it had 1200 watts and so I realised it was time to finally move on from my Hoover purchases. The only thing I have left from one of my stick vacs is the hopeless suction floor head - but it seemed to last longer than the machines they came with! Yes, it was a right pain in the Athyss!

After I sold my Senior and Powerplus (I actually preferred the Senior as it was simpler and felt easier to handle due to the non-covered sides like the Ranger and Powerplus hoods) I only dabbled with a few old vintage Hoover uprights before changing over to Sebo vacuums and other brands. I have a Junior U1104 and a Junior Deluxe U2002 and that's about it now - I'm happy with what I have going down memory lane and the models I've had have certainly been long lasting. I just wish Hoover could bring out a decent bagged upright range that is better than the Purepower - but I have a strong feeling that the UK company may just not bother and end up doing cylinder vacs with bags as a speciality as Vax UK have done. Yes it would be sad to see Hoover choose this route, but then its been sadder just to watch a great company that Hoover were go the way they've become, already.

I wish I had enthusiasm for the TP Junior but of the three I had, the handle always snapped off before long right at the top before the metal rectangular spine - and yet my Junior U1104's never had that issue.

Miele and Sebo have always used bags because as Calum (Rolls_Rapide) quite rightly points out - the Germans have always preferred using bags for bagging the dirt as well as keeping an eye on the industry where cleanliness & optimum hygiene is required. Hence Sebo with their commercial products and Miele's lack of desire to go down the commercial route, but have a unique position in developing and producing medical cleaning equipment. It has only been Bosch in the last couple of years who decided to go bagless, first with their VX/Vax merged upright, the AVC1 (and later renamed VX series) but its good they still have a healthier, larger amount of bagged vacuums against their bagless models. 

They probably are a wasted effort - but this just proves my point that brands are just wanting to make extra money rather than design a product that benefits the buyer and who are we to argue? At least Bosch are giving buyers an alternative to their bagged vacuums for buyers who don't want bags.

I like Bosch products, but not all of them - what I do like about Bosch is that you used to be able to buy a TOL dishwasher bearing their name and being substantially cheaper than the comparatively same Siemens model that you'd pay a lot more money for just because it has a different finish and the brand name - an approach that John Lewis constantly do with their larger Electrolux derived appliances - they constantly promote their products being made in Germany as a way to cash in on other brands reliability record - its a pity then, that my old rented flat washer (a John Lewis washer) was made in China, regardless of the promise JL said at the time.

Hoover user manuals usually carry another date though, Jamie - to show the new info that has been added or a new reprint date and the original date. This info changed when Hoover put online user manuals for owners to download. 

Steve - I think Hoover had just produced dirty fan vacuums as an over supply and just continued to sell off what they had. It would have made more financial sense than to just sell off what they had against the clean fan vacs and this is more evident with the older Hoover brochures with the old heavy Sprint and Compact cylinder vacuums being sold alongside the more modern Sensotronic based bodies and others.