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Another Hitachi. The CV975D
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Post# 193882   8/8/2012 at 14:58 (2,792 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Hey folks. I picked this one up the other day. This is the last of the Powerhouse style cleaners, before it was replaced by the more modern yet lesser performing floating head style cleaners. 

 

As far as I can tell, this was launched in around 2002. There was an earlier version in the same colour scheme, but that was 1100w. It originally retailed as a fairly mid-range cleaner, but by the end of it's run in 2005, it became a budget cleaner. They were very popular, but due to their long run as a budget vac, I think they were used and abused and mostly thrown out. Certainly the ones I knew of were bought because the buyer needed a cheap vac pretty quick. 

 

Having said that, it's a pretty sturdy and relatively decent vacuum. It's certainly not a patch on the earlier models and no where near as sturdy but for the price, it was a pretty good vac. The stretch hose is brilliant, it's nice and quiet and it grooms the pile well. 

 

Here is the pic when I first got it. It was covered in paint, full of dust and the hose was blocked up with (wait for it) a crisp packet. 





Post# 193883 , Reply# 1   8/8/2012 at 14:59 (2,792 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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all cleaned up 


Post# 193884 , Reply# 2   8/8/2012 at 14:59 (2,792 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Close up of the sales sticker


Post# 193885 , Reply# 3   8/8/2012 at 15:00 (2,792 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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The rear


Post# 193886 , Reply# 4   8/8/2012 at 15:04 (2,792 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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the tools. It's missing the upholstery tool, but this was common as the upholstery tool never clipped it, it just sat in a little grove behind the hose. It has strange tool storage - the extension tube sits behind the hose and as said, the upholstery tool doesn't clip in. 


Post# 193887 , Reply# 5   8/8/2012 at 15:06 (2,792 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Here it is pictured with it's older brother, the original Hitachi CV50D upright


Post# 193888 , Reply# 6   8/8/2012 at 15:14 (2,792 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Just for into, this was the style of cleaner that replaced it. I'm not sure on the model numbers on these - they were very short lived and I don't think sold very well. NB: this pic is not mine


Post# 193889 , Reply# 7   8/8/2012 at 15:15 (2,792 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Great Hitachi! Love those uprights, we had one years ago.

Post# 193890 , Reply# 8   8/8/2012 at 15:15 (2,792 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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and the bagless version


Post# 193892 , Reply# 9   8/8/2012 at 15:49 (2,792 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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My goodness those two are ugly machines.

Post# 193895 , Reply# 10   8/8/2012 at 15:58 (2,792 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Ugly they may be, and with a silly arrangement for the hose, but the bagged version of these cleaners really did clean up. The roller brush was very stiff and I am sure there was a beating action. They were cheap and good for the price. Also they moved more easily than any other Hitachi upright before it. I sold my shop in 2003 and had done servicing on a couple of these cleaners before I did so. I seem to remember Argos having them in 2002, the store I used to go to had cleaners on display and they stocked a black bagged version on the shelves.

Post# 193898 , Reply# 11   8/8/2012 at 16:05 (2,792 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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No, I didn't mean the model Chris bought was ugly, far from it, I meant the successor of that and the bagless one were ugly.

Post# 193899 , Reply# 12   8/8/2012 at 16:09 (2,792 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

That was the one I was talking about too.

Post# 193902 , Reply# 13   8/8/2012 at 16:18 (2,792 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Completely forgot to mention, the CV975 is something of a celebrity. It's been used on numerous TV sets, was seen being used in cult british horror flick "Long Time Dead" and, probably it's biggest appearances, belonged to Bridget Jones. 


Post# 193905 , Reply# 14   8/8/2012 at 16:22 (2,792 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

There is also one in that television commercial where the cats have thumbs.

Post# 193908 , Reply# 15   8/8/2012 at 16:28 (2,792 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
There is also one in that television commercial where the ca

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I believe that's one of the earlier, grey models 



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Post# 193909 , Reply# 16   8/8/2012 at 16:30 (2,792 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Yes that's right. The one which you was saying had the lower wattage motor.

Post# 193910 , Reply# 17   8/8/2012 at 16:31 (2,792 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Sorry let me re-write that comment. It would have been 1100watts in that light grey colour. I see you say there was also an 1100watt in the colour you have there.

Post# 193911 , Reply# 18   8/8/2012 at 16:33 (2,792 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Ha ha, I love that advert! It's about the only one that doesn't make me want to throw something at the television set.

Post# 193916 , Reply# 19   8/8/2012 at 16:44 (2,792 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Just curious...where did Hitachi make these vacs? Japan? Or was it in Spain like the UK's Panasonic uprights? Did Hitachi contract production to another company?

Post# 193919 , Reply# 20   8/8/2012 at 16:48 (2,792 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I'm not too sure, Japan I think.

My 1988 CV2550 Powerhouse cylinder was made in Singapore.


Post# 193920 , Reply# 21   8/8/2012 at 16:51 (2,792 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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The CV50D was made in Japan. As later production went on and got cheaper and cheaper, production moved over seas to Singapore. 


Post# 193922 , Reply# 22   8/8/2012 at 16:52 (2,792 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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But my Hitachi made in Singapore is from the 80s!

Post# 193924 , Reply# 23   8/8/2012 at 16:56 (2,792 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Yes Jamie. He said the CV50 was built in Japan. That model only ran for a few years during the early part of the 1980s. So from the statement made, it could be taken that all other models came from Singapore.

Post# 193926 , Reply# 24   8/8/2012 at 16:58 (2,792 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Oh deary me we're getting a bit confused...

I thought he meant the CV975D was made in Japan and later was made in Singapore, which confused me since my Singapore made CV2550 is 24 years older!


Post# 193928 , Reply# 25   8/8/2012 at 17:07 (2,792 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

No Jamie, 'we' aren't. Smile.

Post# 193932 , Reply# 26   8/8/2012 at 17:15 (2,792 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Well that's true, you weren't!

What do I expect though, my marbles rolled out of sight years ago.


Post# 193937 , Reply# 27   8/8/2012 at 18:24 (2,792 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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ROFL!!!!!! Never heard that expression before!!!! "...my marbles rolled out of sight years ago...." Hysterical! :-D

Post# 193938 , Reply# 28   8/8/2012 at 18:32 (2,792 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I remember them well - they were a good seller for Argos.


Post# 193992 , Reply# 29   8/9/2012 at 04:08 (2,792 days old) by andy-lux ()        

Well done mate. It has turned out well. I'd take my hat off if I had one :)

Post# 193993 , Reply# 30   8/9/2012 at 04:11 (2,792 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

And to think I never knew Argos sold marbles. I even knew the store manager very well.

Post# 194052 , Reply# 31   8/9/2012 at 16:23 (2,791 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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"I remember them well - they were a good seller for Argos." With people like me about, I can believe that.

Post# 194852 , Reply# 32   8/14/2012 at 16:02 (2,786 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Chris

fab, nice to see one of these again, one of those many childhood vacs of mine. Mum has a lot to answer for making mechase allthese cleaners of hers. One day Il have an example of each one.

Always loved this one brilliant cleaners and solidly built.


Post# 194924 , Reply# 33   8/14/2012 at 19:32 (2,786 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I have one of those Hitachi Powerhouse models - obtained it in a sorry state and had to do a total strip down and cleanup, but its working great now - pity I had to butcher the small tamperproof screw in the back to get the back off to access the motor though - what a PITA to do, but the motor is encased in foam and this was overrun with dirt and hair. Its the only upright I have with a cable rewind mechanism - and very sturdily built - it has a substantial beater bar which really grooms my carpets, and exhausts from the side of the dustcontainer. Pity its missing the dusting brush and crevice tool, but I cant have it all can I. This is a lovely forest green CV780DC and I have no idea how old it is, but would estimate late 90's:

Post# 194956 , Reply# 34   8/14/2012 at 21:46 (2,786 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Showing the Back view with cord rewound fully into cleaner:

Post# 194958 , Reply# 35   8/14/2012 at 21:48 (2,786 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

The view of the brushbar - very similar to the Hoover models of yesteryear?

Post# 194960 , Reply# 36   8/14/2012 at 21:50 (2,786 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

And the bag compartment - notice they used a bag slide along the top of the open bags - re-useable paper bags. This model was made in Singapore BTW.

Post# 195018 , Reply# 37   8/15/2012 at 04:31 (2,786 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Steve, I might have a spare dusting brush and crevice tool for that machine lurking about if you're interested? I will have a route around when I get home.

Yours is the earlier 1000w model from the second run of these style (the first run were all grey). My guess is about 1997/98.


Post# 195053 , Reply# 38   8/15/2012 at 08:52 (2,785 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Chris - yes I would be interested if you maybe want to list them on Ebay and let me know when you do so I can do a buy it now for a reasonable price. I always try to only go for cleaners with all their tools, as I think they just arent complete without them, but then, the Hitachi only cost me 10 and she was about to throw it out if it didnt sell. It reminds me of the Turbopower 2 in shape, and thats what I'm gonna get next, but I want the one with the autosense and permabag if I can find one locally, but the best things come to those who wait lol
Plenty of Turbopower's come up on ebay but only the base models with no bag full indicators, and that just wont do for me. Plus so many sellers wont post either, and thats a pity. Am more of an uprights fan, but am always scanning ebay for bargains, and if a Hoover sensotronic comes up near me, may be interested in them to.


Post# 195067 , Reply# 39   8/15/2012 at 11:14 (2,785 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Plenty of Turbopower's come up on ebay but only the base

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The bag full indicator on the Turbopower 1 was near useless anyway and it was only the first series and last series of Turbopowers that didn't have them. Between 1986 and 1991, I think all the hardbag Turbo's came with a bag full light. It was then dropped off the top of Hoover's range by the Turbopower 2 in 1992 and became more of a budget cleaner. Amazingly, it lasted as such until 2001.


Post# 195071 , Reply# 40   8/15/2012 at 11:32 (2,785 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Steve

A up duck,

Another member in the locality, drop me an email if you like.

Il keep my eye out for a TP2 with autosense and bag for ya chicken. lol

Rob


Post# 195075 , Reply# 41   8/15/2012 at 11:38 (2,785 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I had a later model Turbopower in dark metallic green, which had a permabag system, the autosense and power boost control and bag full indicator, although I'm now trying to remember if it was a piston type indicator or a light. It was a great cleaner and I wish I still had it - although washing the permabag was a dirty job and I used to do it in the bathtub - although washing out Dyson cyclone assemblies reminds me of those old permabag assemblies as well. Thinking about it - I'm surprised the Purepower has lasted this long as it is not a patch on the Turbopower clean fan models.
Wasnt such a big fan of the dirty fan Turbopower 1 from '84 to '92, as they tended to blow a lot of dust into the room again and the upright locking mechanism wasnty very good - also the lower cable wind holders tended to snap off, and hose suction wasnt the best either. When it changed to a clean fan system, it was transformed overnight!


Post# 195076 , Reply# 42   8/15/2012 at 11:44 (2,785 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

This is the model I had, and loved it a lot - such a good cleaner, and you can see the similarities to the Hitachi Powerhouse range, but the Hoover had more gizmos and features which is why I bought it:


Post# 195078 , Reply# 43   8/15/2012 at 11:50 (2,785 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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LOL

I Recognise that cleaner lolol wonder where it is..... :P


Post# 195081 , Reply# 44   8/15/2012 at 12:05 (2,785 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I remembered seeing this on these forums in an archive several months back, some guy in Derby posted it, but just pinched the pic as its a nice model and exactly the same as what I bought from brand new back in the late 90's. Hoover built this model to such a good quality, can hardly beleive that the purepower/dustmanager range was its replacement :-(

Post# 195091 , Reply# 45   8/15/2012 at 12:29 (2,785 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Yes it was posted in my Turbopower information thread which went on for over a hundred replies (VL really should have pages) and belonged to Paul.

Speaking of which I haven't seen him around on the forum lately...


Post# 195093 , Reply# 46   8/15/2012 at 12:34 (2,785 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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yes Steve,

it was posted by turbopowerpaul, my partner of 5 years.

Between us we have collected the first series of that cleaner's core range and are only missing about 3 of the exclusive models.

Great cleaners and very versatile as you mention, but then im also asucker for the electroux contours and airstreams of the time too. Side by side I can tell no difference in performance,


Post# 195105 , Reply# 47   8/15/2012 at 12:59 (2,785 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Wasnt such a big fan of the dirty fan Turbopower 1

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...*GASP*....


Post# 195129 , Reply# 48   8/15/2012 at 13:34 (2,785 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

There's been an airstream kicking about on Ebay now for months over in Derby, she was selling a Turpower1 in green a month or so back too, didnt go for it though as the back was black plastic instead of green and it didnt look right.

Post# 195130 , Reply# 49   8/15/2012 at 13:37 (2,785 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Its photos like this that put me off the Turbopower 1, it seems to have not much in the way of filtration between the bag and the outside world, thus coating itself in dust blown out again - maybe this is just caused by cheap bags?

Post# 195138 , Reply# 50   8/15/2012 at 14:17 (2,785 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Second-hand dust from a well maintained dirty-fan cleaner is a potential quirk of the design, it has to be said. However, I would still suggest that it was not all that much worse than a clean-fan machine which had a cloth bag and no filtration (of which a good deal cleaners were built in this fashion).

The real problems in the dirty-fan cleaners arise from when the plastic ducting and bellows wears out, or cracks, or splits, either through wear and tear due to the handle constantly being moved up and down, or through solid objects hitting the fan and smashing their way through the cowling around of the fan.

As well as this, a good deal of cleaners had poorly fitted bellows and ducting etc. right from the assembly line at the factory. If a cleaner has closely sealed parts and the bellows are intact and a decent bag is fitted, second-hand dust should be minimal.

However, in the reality, papers bags would often burst, leaving layers and layers of dust and filth in a soft bag cleaner, and spraying it into all corners of a hard bag cleaner, often into spaces which the average consumer would never think of or be able to clean out.

Poor quality dust bags would indeed only add to this. Of all the dirty-fan machines I have ever worked on, the Electrolux 152, 160, and 170 stand out from all the rest as being one of the best and easiest to keep clean. A filter in the front of the hard bag did prevent a lot of dust escaping and the hard bag itself was easy to take off and wash out with soapy water. With the exception of the filter pad, there were no other parts fitted to the inside of it. It was just like cleaning out a small household pedal bin. Where this cleaner lost points was in the tee joint where the main handle connected to the cleaner head, because given enough time, the joint could wear out and cause dust to escape. But I still thought it to be the best design of hard bag. I cannot tell you how much dirt and filth I have removed from behind cordwinder units and electrical panels on the likes of a Hoover Turbopower or a Moulinex.


Post# 195147 , Reply# 51   8/15/2012 at 14:33 (2,785 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Meh, a bit of dust never hurt anybody!

I know a lot of people like high filtration and although it is a plus, I really couldn't give a toss about it.

As long as dust isn't flying out of the vacuum it is filtering enough for me.


Post# 195152 , Reply# 52   8/15/2012 at 14:41 (2,785 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I didnt realise you could get a clean fan machine with a soft bag - I thought all cloth bag machines such as the juniors, seniours, Kirby, etc were dirty fan. I thought all clean fan machines or indirect air had to have a hard container as the bag is on the suction side rather than the exhaust side of the fan?

Post# 195154 , Reply# 53   8/15/2012 at 14:47 (2,785 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Hello. Yes there have been a good deal of clean-fan machines with cloth bags, mostly cylinder types. More often than not they were designed in such a way that a paper bag could be fitted inside of it, but a good deal of people just used the cloth bag. Some cleaners like Electrolux had an exhaust filter too, but others like some basic Philips, Goblin, and Hoover models had no such thing, it was just a plain cloth bag before the motor.

I am wondering if maybe there is some confusion here over the use of the terms cloth bag (by which I mean a cloth alternative to a paper bag in either a clean or dirty fan cleaner) and soft bag (by which I mean a fabric cover which fits around a paper bag or cloth bag on a dirty fan cleaner). Sorry if this is the case. My fault.


Post# 195158 , Reply# 54   8/15/2012 at 15:24 (2,785 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I think Steve thought you meant cloth bag as in the housing of the dust bag, in which case no you cannot have a clean fan Vacuum Cleaner with a cloth bag of that type, it would physically not be possible.



Post# 195161 , Reply# 55   8/15/2012 at 15:29 (2,785 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Soft bag to me is the outer zipped cover over the inner paper bag on a dirty fan cleaner - the part that Kirby changes the design on every few years. Hard bag is like the Hitachi cleaner at the start of this post - it has to have a hard bag as it is a bypass cleaner where the dust is sucked through the bag and then filtered out before the air hits the fan, hence clean fan.
I know that some clean fan cleaners like the Miele S7510 use cloth bags but these are surrounded by a hard bag to allow the air to be sucked through the inner bag.
I think maybe we got wires crossed lol


Post# 195175 , Reply# 56   8/15/2012 at 15:48 (2,785 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Yes, soft bag is the term I use, but either can be used.

I personally am not a fan of the cloth bags (in place of a paper bag) because cleaning them out is a messy job and they clog easier I find.


Post# 195191 , Reply# 57   8/15/2012 at 16:14 (2,785 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Well, in all that I wrote, I used the term 'soft bag' to describe the outer covering of a dirty-fan cleaner, and 'cloth bag' to describe the recepticle used to retain the debris in any cleaner.

Post# 195192 , Reply# 58   8/15/2012 at 16:16 (2,785 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Did you ? Better go and buy those marbles sooner rather than later.

Post# 195196 , Reply# 59   8/15/2012 at 16:20 (2,785 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

You Jamie or me? I do beleive Argos sell them.

Post# 195198 , Reply# 60   8/15/2012 at 16:21 (2,785 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I think we have turned this cloth bag soft bag hard bag into "bags at 40 paces" lol
Thread Hijack alert!


Post# 195199 , Reply# 61   8/15/2012 at 16:23 (2,785 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

I am sorry if that is the case. I did not wish to do so. Sorry.

Post# 195201 , Reply# 62   8/15/2012 at 16:26 (2,785 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I'm confused as to what "bags at 40 paces" is ?

Benny, for me but I'll buy you some if you like, just forward me a cheque!


Post# 195204 , Reply# 63   8/15/2012 at 16:29 (2,785 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

(Hand)bags at 40 paces - its an famous phrase Jamie! I'm sure other members know what it means lol

Post# 195205 , Reply# 64   8/15/2012 at 16:30 (2,785 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

I have no idea what it means either. All I know is I am glad not to have heard the words '50 shades of grey' today.

Post# 195206 , Reply# 65   8/15/2012 at 16:31 (2,785 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Oh I see!

Well, what can I say, it's late and my caffeine level is dropping rapidly.


Post# 195207 , Reply# 66   8/15/2012 at 16:32 (2,785 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Oh I had heard of that book Benny, sounded like filth to me.

People are buying it in the thousands though, says a lot for today's world...

I don't actually understand the title either, I suppose I'd have to read it to understand. Which I won't be doing.


Post# 195231 , Reply# 67   8/15/2012 at 18:15 (2,785 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Then you will never know Jamie! Haha


Post# 195339 , Reply# 68   8/16/2012 at 03:51 (2,785 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
sounded like filth to me

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That's exactley what makes it BRILLIANT.


Post# 195340 , Reply# 69   8/16/2012 at 04:08 (2,785 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Maybe for you Chris, but I don't get any satisfaction from reading that kind of "stuff".

Post# 195342 , Reply# 70   8/16/2012 at 04:43 (2,785 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Slightly off topic, but there was a woman on my train home reading 50 Shades the other day and she was quite clearly getting off on it. Some people need to get out more.


Post# 195352 , Reply# 71   8/16/2012 at 07:06 (2,784 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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So they do Chris, so they do.

Post# 195374 , Reply# 72   8/16/2012 at 08:15 (2,784 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
Turbo500

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On the second photo of it clean, did you make the photo angle perfect so It looks like there is a soup can sticking up on the handle? its lovely and clean, and gone to a good owner :)

Post# 195376 , Reply# 73   8/16/2012 at 08:19 (2,784 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

The soup can you refer to was actually an optional accesory for this model. It is rare to see one with this part, but as you can see in the photograph, it is designed to sit securly onto the handle and is useful during longer cleaning sessions in case the user became hungry and so on and so forth. Top of the range models also included a bracket on the rear to hold slices of bread.

Post# 195377 , Reply# 74   8/16/2012 at 08:20 (2,784 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Ha ha, I did not notice that.

The only Hitachi with a tin of Heinz built in!


Post# 196301 , Reply# 75   8/20/2012 at 10:27 (2,780 days old) by luchar ()        

I used to have one of these! It came with my last house & we used it for all the messy stuff then threw it out, what a shame. It was the 1300W one too




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