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Post# 192395   7/30/2012 at 21:30 (2,802 days old) by KirbySentriaII ()        

The Kirby Sentria II

You get to see it before the Distributor's Meeting tomorrow in Cleveland.

I have searched all over and haven't found anything said about this model yet.






Post# 192396 , Reply# 1   7/30/2012 at 21:32 (2,802 days old) by KirbySentriaII ()        
More Sentria II

The Upright



Post# 192397 , Reply# 2   7/30/2012 at 21:33 (2,802 days old) by KirbySentriaII ()        
More

Whole Package

Post# 192398 , Reply# 3   7/30/2012 at 21:34 (2,802 days old) by KirbySentriaII ()        
Last One..

Owners Manual

Post# 192399 , Reply# 4   7/30/2012 at 21:36 (2,802 days old) by adambomb (Undisclosed )        
Please

Can we see the back of it? It's so nice!!!!

Post# 192400 , Reply# 5   7/30/2012 at 21:37 (2,802 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
I just heard about it

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today . I was trying to keep it secret but thanks for posting it .

Post# 192402 , Reply# 6   7/30/2012 at 21:40 (2,802 days old) by KirbySentriaII ()        

I don't have pictures of the back yet. The on / OFF switch is that same blue as the handle.

Pics of Shampooer and Accessories coming soon.


Post# 192403 , Reply# 7   7/30/2012 at 21:42 (2,802 days old) by adambomb (Undisclosed )        
Nice

what about the tech drive petal? Gray and blue?

Post# 192404 , Reply# 8   7/30/2012 at 21:47 (2,802 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
I will be buying

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two once they are available for sale . Just a color change until the 100th Anniversary huh ?

Post# 192406 , Reply# 9   7/30/2012 at 21:59 (2,802 days old) by Kirbyotronic ()        

They've certainly outdone themselves on this one.

Post# 192407 , Reply# 10   7/30/2012 at 22:04 (2,802 days old) by adambomb (Undisclosed )        
Yeah

Talk about another Legend II

Post# 192408 , Reply# 11   7/30/2012 at 22:07 (2,802 days old) by KirbySentriaII ()        

Kirby's have looked pretty much the same since 1990. all they do is change the trim, the bag, and then also the small improvments that were introduced late in the sentria era. (smaller mini emtor, third handle lock, F-Style Bag System etc.)

And as for the Tech drive, it is also blue and grey like you said adambomb


Post# 192409 , Reply# 12   7/30/2012 at 22:08 (2,802 days old) by mieles7 (DFW, TX)        

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They should have called it the Kirby Sentria Gold

Post# 192413 , Reply# 13   7/30/2012 at 22:14 (2,802 days old) by adambomb (Undisclosed )        
I think

they should have come out with the color change when they introduced the Style F bag because people buy the wrong bags all the time for their Sentria and a color change would have helped or even a name change.

Post# 192437 , Reply# 14   7/31/2012 at 00:02 (2,802 days old) by szymonrules (Philadelphia, PA )        
Looking...

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good although I wouldn't mind a bit more change!

Post# 192439 , Reply# 15   7/31/2012 at 00:12 (2,802 days old) by szymonrules (Philadelphia, PA )        
Also...

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The site is down... guess they're revamping the site to acustom the new Kirby!


Post# 192442 , Reply# 16   7/31/2012 at 00:22 (2,801 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Eh

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I was hoping they would have done a complete color change instead of just the bag the grey was fine for a while but i think it's been overdone now a change to the trim would have been nice

Post# 192446 , Reply# 17   7/31/2012 at 02:32 (2,801 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Splashy new look---but otherwise how is it different from the present Sentria?any new features?May as well wait for the so called "new" 100th anneversary machine to come out.

Post# 192461 , Reply# 18   7/31/2012 at 04:31 (2,801 days old) by chuffle (Rural Pennsylvania)        
The outer bag pattern design reminded me of something...

...then it came to me - it is the power on/off symbol!

Sorry for being silly...I couldn't resist.

Joe


Post# 192463 , Reply# 19   7/31/2012 at 04:47 (2,801 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        

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well that bag is UGLY !! lol but i dont mind the blue it looks nice

Post# 192468 , Reply# 20   7/31/2012 at 06:54 (2,801 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
Don't know how this is ....

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Going to increase their sales. All a Sentria owner has to do is buy the new bag, and the blue handle carrier and possibly the cord has a little blue in it as well, can't tell. Can't tell if that is gold or brown by the picture, but again they used gray with it......


Sincerely,

Bud Mattingly
PR-21

Thanks for the pictures, I do appreciate that....


Post# 192480 , Reply# 21   7/31/2012 at 08:37 (2,801 days old) by kirbyvacuum (Long Island New York)        
Help

All i get is a bklank page. Any one else have that trouble Thanks Doug

Post# 192482 , Reply# 22   7/31/2012 at 08:41 (2,801 days old) by kirbyvacuum (Long Island New York)        

It is fine now. They could have picked a better color i really dont care for it. A nice red like the Classic 3.Thats just what i think Doug

Post# 192494 , Reply# 23   7/31/2012 at 10:06 (2,801 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
Kirby site is working now

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but is still showing the old Sentria.  Probably won't be updated with new model until after the Distributors meeting and most of the previous stock is sold.


Post# 192504 , Reply# 24   7/31/2012 at 10:25 (2,801 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
that bag...

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..looks quite similar to a carpet my grandparents had laid in their living room in 1968.


Post# 192507 , Reply# 25   7/31/2012 at 10:36 (2,801 days old) by trebor ()        
Oh, please....

SEVEN YEARS FOR THIS!!!????   This is all they could come up with? All they could do? The best they could muster?

It still weighs over 20 lbs. It still does not have on board tools. Every day at least 5,000 people turn age 65 in this country. What happens when people turn 65? They retire. They downsize. They tend to be more cautious about spending money. The population that has made Kirby what it is is getting greyer, less mobile, more frugal, and moving into smaller living spaces.  If the anniversary model is introduced after only one year, that means OVER 18 MILLION PEOPLE WILL HAVE TURNED AGE 65.

I don't know what Kirby is thinking, but they are not thinking much.


Post# 192517 , Reply# 26   7/31/2012 at 12:14 (2,801 days old) by whirlpolf ()        
love Alex's cartoon ;-)

So true! Exactly what I was thinking.

Well here we go: Years of hushed-up "hard thinking" and what do we see? Some Jetsons' family 60s fabric pattern (any arbitrary print design apprentice could have done the job just the same).

Rumors are going: "oh but that is not even a fraction of what is coming!" Aha. So what.

Trebor, you are so right. What will be Kirby's future audience?
It's the Sentria II-shrug-it-off to me...



Post# 192521 , Reply# 27   7/31/2012 at 12:24 (2,801 days old) by whirlpolf ()        
in other words: just google "tobinm@gmail.com"

mysterious.... ;-)

Post# 192528 , Reply# 28   7/31/2012 at 13:08 (2,801 days old) by sonnyndad ()        

It looks as if Kirby tried to copy Rainbow with the whole "action parts" thing. If you look closely, you can see that the Bag Release Button, Handle Tilt Latch, and carry handle are blue, just like when Rainbow made the latches for the Water Basin grey.

Post# 192538 , Reply# 29   7/31/2012 at 14:07 (2,801 days old) by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.)        
Retro?

If they were going for a retro look, they succeeded. I had bathroom wallpaper in a rental apartment in the 70's that looked like the bag. Really? Sad...very sad that's all they could come up with for a model change.

Post# 192542 , Reply# 30   7/31/2012 at 15:00 (2,801 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke ()        

I think it's kind of ugly actually... maybe it will grow on me. At least they moved away from the safe but bland gray... but why did the even bother if that was all they were going to do?

At least I could have a "new kirby" if I just got a new bag for my Sentria!


Post# 192546 , Reply# 31   7/31/2012 at 15:37 (2,801 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)        

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Oh, joy!!! Yet another shade of grey. That some original thinking Kirby. How many more shade of grey do you think they can come up with? And that bag... gag. So much for 'major changes coming'. Maybe it's a good think I can't afford one, it would be nothing more than a slightly changed Sentria.
However, over a year ago I told a member of this forum that Kirby should just change the trim color, find another patter for the bag and call the machine Sentria II, so I must be smarter than I look.
Justin
ps. Did I mention I don't like the bag and grey trim?


Post# 192548 , Reply# 32   7/31/2012 at 15:42 (2,801 days old) by kirbykid63 (Wilmington Delaware)        
Yuck !!!!

I'm not impressed with the bag color it looks strange with the grey trim,are they color blind?

Post# 192549 , Reply# 33   7/31/2012 at 15:46 (2,801 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
I love it

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and will be buying TWO . I am excited for the totally redesigned 100th anniversary to be released in 2014 , I guess I am a true Kirby lover .

Post# 192551 , Reply# 34   7/31/2012 at 15:55 (2,801 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)        

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Dan,
Just because I don't like think Kirby spent much time choosing trim color and bag patterns does not mean that I am not a Kirby Lover. I love Kirby far more than any other brand on the market or off. I just think that the 'suits' at Kirby could have done better... Red or Blue, even Green would be better than yet another shade of Grey.


Post# 192552 , Reply# 35   7/31/2012 at 16:03 (2,801 days old) by kirbyvacuum (Long Island New York)        

I agree with Dan

Post# 192555 , Reply# 36   7/31/2012 at 16:10 (2,801 days old) by IL-Kirby-Fan ()        
I love the new Kirby!

I've had the Sentria II in my stock room for about a week and a half or two weeks and of course couldn't say anything because our sales teams had to sell our Sentria I stock first. I really like it though, great colors and much more visually appealing.

PS- Adam, the only thing that is gray on the machine is the cord, the rest of the trim is brown.


Post# 192556 , Reply# 37   7/31/2012 at 16:14 (2,801 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Ohh I say..

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That looks lovely, really like the colours in that bag, kinda like a mix of retro with modern lol.
I think it is a re live of a legend 2, how they were developing the G3 at the time.
Let's hope kirby ate cooking up something special for 2014!
I can see people are disapointed, but what you moaning for? At least they brought out a new model!
Also, I hate the new emptor, it is horrible, old one, please! :(


Post# 192558 , Reply# 38   7/31/2012 at 16:35 (2,801 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Oh...

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Oh they changed the machine why it's still 2012. I'm looking forward to seeing it in person once it's out over here:o) It will also be nice to see more pictures of it:o)
I wonder who really leaked the pictures;o)

James:o)


Post# 192564 , Reply# 39   7/31/2012 at 17:02 (2,801 days old) by sanitairered (Michigan)        
I don't get it...

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I think the new Kirby looks cool! It seemed that most people on here wanted to see a color change on the Sentria, (which was long overdue), and now that Kirby gave us one, a lot of people don't like it. It's not like Kirby was going to introduce a brand new, redesigned model two years before their 100th anniversary, so why complain?

Floyd


Post# 192574 , Reply# 40   7/31/2012 at 18:20 (2,801 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
I agree with Floyd

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I just find it a bit rude, somewhat. I can see where you are coming from, seven years waiting patiently for a new model, wondering what they have done next.
People were begging for something new, something with a different colour, just people did when the Legend ll came out, and now Kirby's come out with the "sentria 2" with a few colour changes, like people wanted, and you throw it back in there face.
I quite like the new model and I am not gonna lie they could off added a bit more blue detail, but you know what, it is still something different and a modified name.
Like Floyd said they are hardly going to bring out something totally redesigned, two years prior to their anniversary.

Please don't take any offensive, I was just expressing how I feel.


Post# 192575 , Reply# 41   7/31/2012 at 18:52 (2,801 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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I was never too fond of the original Sentria, but this model looks even worse. I noticed the new emtor immediately, and once again the older versions looked much better. The bag looks oddly vintage and extremely contemporary at the same time; it might have looked better in a different color. I do appreciate a model update, and the company letting us see it before the conference, so it's not entirely negative. Still excited for 2014!



Post# 192576 , Reply# 42   7/31/2012 at 18:54 (2,801 days old) by Trebor ()        
When Dan shared his conversation...

with someone at Kirby, I had the distinct impression that the redesign was going to be introduced as the next model.  So this model has 11 to 15 months before it will be gone and the 100th anniversary model introduced.  I'm sure the launch will be no later than September to get the most mileage out of the 100th anniversary, and I don't think it will be earlier than June to be called 2014 model. Oh well, I won't be buying either model. 

 

 

 

 


Post# 192579 , Reply# 43   7/31/2012 at 19:08 (2,801 days old) by ryan1994jeep (Georgia)        
My Two Cents ( For All It's Worth)

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When I first saw it yesterday I was a bit disappointed, but I have to admit its growing on me.

How does one really redesign a Kirby anyway?? Kirby's to me have always had the same basic design and function to begin with. If you change that then to me it would no longer be a Kirby...

Also, will these be sold until the 2014 model? Isn't that a bit short for a Kirby model to be in production. Seems like it would financially hurt them.


Post# 192582 , Reply# 44   7/31/2012 at 19:24 (2,801 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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I just happened to be passing through Andrews, Texas today and stopped by the Kirby factory in hopes of getting a first hand look at the Sentria II.  Unfortunately, it was past their normal office hours, and I couldn't get in.  So this is all I can post!  LOL! 

 

Bill

 

P. S.  I think they need to work on that sign!


Post# 192586 , Reply# 45   7/31/2012 at 19:59 (2,801 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)        

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So is the trim color grey or light brown? I will admit that I have a very slight color-blindness so to me the pictures look like more grey. I hope it's not grey. Otherwise, I like the Sentria and I want one. There really was nothing I didn't like about the Sentria, so I'm sure that I'd like the Sentria II. The bag pattern will just take some getting used to.

Post# 192587 , Reply# 46   7/31/2012 at 20:00 (2,801 days old) by ned_flanders ()        

It's not what I expected, yet I am not surprised. If you don't like the bag design, you can always design your own bag.

Post# 192592 , Reply# 47   7/31/2012 at 21:19 (2,801 days old) by jonesmic28 ()        
Love It!

I think they did a great job with the colors. I will definitely buy one, When I can AFFORD it! LOL

Post# 192594 , Reply# 48   7/31/2012 at 21:22 (2,801 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke ()        

Jeff, how would someone design their own bag? I know that people can think of their own design ideas and such, but how can the average person get that idea from their inside their head on to the bag?

Post# 192608 , Reply# 49   7/31/2012 at 22:00 (2,801 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
I knew the Sentria II was on

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its way and was trying to let everyone know but I couldn`t say anything because I promised my source . This was held up because of the economy and almost didn`t make it . Kirby wanted to give everyone something to hold over until the big 100th anniversary total redesign makes its debut . Like I have said the new Kirby (2014) will change Kirby for the better and I even think will make all other manufactures say why didnt we think of that ? Stay tuned folks less than two years and counting . I am so happy with the Brown and teal colors and that cool bag pattern rocks ! The new emptor improves and increases the Kirbys power and will also be used on the new model plus it is way easier for people to remove especially the older folks which Kirby has NOT forgotten wait you will all see very very soon !!!!!!!!!!!!

Post# 192610 , Reply# 50   7/31/2012 at 22:19 (2,801 days old) by kirbysthebest (Wichita, KS)        

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What is the MSRP for the II?

Post# 192612 , Reply# 51   7/31/2012 at 22:20 (2,801 days old) by motojoejo (MO)        

I was having a Mediocre day but those pics just made it a worse day. I like the colors but that pattern and the obvious same machine built just broke my heart. I had super high hopes for the new model.

Post# 192625 , Reply# 52   7/31/2012 at 23:39 (2,801 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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I think it's a lovely cleaner,And i think it's just the tip of the iceberg...
(I:E-Another Legend/Legend 2,For after the Legend 2,Tech drive was released,I can only imagine what is going to be released next...)

-Alex.


Post# 192630 , Reply# 53   8/1/2012 at 00:42 (2,800 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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I love the bag and the color, I never really liked the orange grey look of the Sentria. I figured it wouldn't change like the Legend II but just wait till the next one. I'm excited as hell to see it. I was hoping this new one would have some blue in it, yay!!

Post# 192633 , Reply# 54   8/1/2012 at 01:04 (2,800 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

For "on board" tools-actually makes the vacuum HEAVIER and more clunky-often the tools fall off while using the machine---so you have to go back and pick them up and put them back.I am at age 61 and have no problems using my Kirbys-even with the tools.Currently-I am using my Kirby with My NSS M1 "pig"No problems schlepping the both of them.Its fun using them together-you feel and hear the debris going thru the hose to the M1 and sometimes the delightful "ding" as something goes thru the M1 fan.I am going to try a Kirby Filtrete bag in the M1-they will fit in it.But yes,expected more than just a "makeover" of the present Sentria.For me-want a LARGER home-no plans of downsizing for me.My vacuums want a larger place to "play" in!But its a dream!The NSS does weigh more than the Kirby-it rolls very easily.And I am going to try the Kirby-NSS Monster vac with the hose on the Kirby-Guess truely a "tandem" air vacuum system!

Post# 192634 , Reply# 55   8/1/2012 at 01:09 (2,800 days old) by ned_flanders ()        
custom bag

I have not made my own custom bag yet, but you would have to have a sewing machine, and rip apart an old bag to get a sense of the pattern. An easy alternative would be a vacuum bag 'slip cover'. Custom bags are easier on older vacuums.

Post# 192640 , Reply# 56   8/1/2012 at 02:37 (2,800 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Hmm...

Think I will stick with this- it cost me 50 ($80) complete with attachments including the shampooer and Zip Brush- just needed the bag washed and a polish.....
Seamus


Post# 192648 , Reply# 57   8/1/2012 at 05:42 (2,800 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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ok, it took so many years to make a 70's styled golden make-up???? Nice...I'm looking forward to have one! At least they removed the orange details that I didn't like much.

tommy


Post# 192650 , Reply# 58   8/1/2012 at 06:49 (2,800 days old) by thevacuumlover1 ()        
no no no Guys

You have it all wrong! The 70's bag and brown trim should increase cleaning power 10x! I thought this mother was going to have a g5 style headlight.. So much for that :/

Post# 192654 , Reply# 59   8/1/2012 at 08:06 (2,800 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
New Kirby is here

I think I like the new colors better. I never did like the gray. I thought it made the plastic look cheap. I also never liked the dip in the front nozzle trim or the model script imprinted on the plastic handle.
While I am on the subject,I don't like the looks of the new light. It looks like an after thought. Those are just personel feelings.

I am just glad Kirby is still around. Like many others I was expecting and hoping for major customer focused changes like they did on the Rexair Rainbow.
It seems like Aerus,Miele,Filter Queen are only interested in makeing cosmetic changes in their machines.

I am not so sure that Kirby's 100th Anniversary is such a BIG deal to the average buyer. I sure would not buy a new TORO mower JUST because it was their 50th Anniversay year if my old mower was working properly.
I can see why we are all interested in the 100th Anniversary but we are collectors. I guess they could use it as a selling gimmick but unless they have a better "mousetrap" I can't see it as such a big deal for the average consumer who could care less what color their vacuum cleaner is trimmed.

I would think their real hurdle would be getting in the the door these days.
We have something to look forward to with the next generation Kirby.


Post# 192682 , Reply# 60   8/1/2012 at 12:59 (2,800 days old) by kirbyduh (Louisville, Kentucky)        
New Colors,

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"50 Shades of gray" lol.

Post# 192691 , Reply# 61   8/1/2012 at 15:24 (2,800 days old) by sarasvacshack ()        
New bag style?

Kirby dealer informed me that along with the Sentria II will be a new bag dock launch, which will only be included with the Sentria II attachment kits for the first few months. The new bag can be used on all G Series bag docks, as well as F style. The card board collar has been redesigned (again) to make it even easier to install.

Post# 193621 , Reply# 62   8/6/2012 at 20:34 (2,795 days old) by bravokid ()        

it is a very pretty machine how ever like stated they thew just a new bag on the thing. if kirby wanted to wow for the 100th anniversary they should have brought back the DS 80 and DS 50 style machines i would love that or the heritage. or perhaps a new style all thogether

Post# 193650 , Reply# 63   8/6/2012 at 22:53 (2,795 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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Brovokid, This isn't the 100 anniversary model ( I don't believe ) it's just like when they came out with the Legend II. It was just for filler untill they finished the G-3. I bet this is a filler to keep us customers happy because we can say there is a new model, till finally the new big boy is finished. I bet it WILL wow us.

Post# 193698 , Reply# 64   8/7/2012 at 07:39 (2,794 days old) by Vac_whisperer ()        

Somehow it isn't as exciting as I thought it would be. :/
Remember when we all thought FOR SURE that it would be called the avalir (or something along the lines of that), and wee guessing what colors it was going to be?


Post# 193705 , Reply# 65   8/7/2012 at 09:29 (2,794 days old) by vacfanatic (Omaha, NE)        
Sentria II Label

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So I noticed that on the handle it still just says "Sentria" - they should have made it say Sentria II, similar to when they did the Heritage / Heritage II.

I'm betting it was a cost saving but it kind of seems like it would be important to label the machine in a clearly visible area. At least for me. I'm sure the rating plate on the bottom indicates Sentria II.

Minor detail that bothers me a little! :)

Andrew


Post# 193713 , Reply# 66   8/7/2012 at 10:16 (2,794 days old) by Oreck_XL (Brooklyn, New York 11211)        
I agree with Andrew....

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I felt the same way four years ago when Hoover (already owned by TTI) acknowledged the centennial on the box, but no where on any of the cleaners did it have a hundredth anniversary logo. Definitely "cheaped out" where they shouldn't have.

- Hershel


Post# 193718 , Reply# 67   8/7/2012 at 11:24 (2,794 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
THIS IS NOT

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the 100th Anniversary this is a HOLD OVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post# 193789 , Reply# 68   8/7/2012 at 20:27 (2,794 days old) by vacu-finder ()        

That bag is really hip man.....Groovy graphics..!!

Post# 193988 , Reply# 69   8/9/2012 at 03:28 (2,792 days old) by mikeklondon ()        
Betty Davis of Vac's

I'm sure it works well and makes a lot of noise, but its not pretty is it

Post# 193991 , Reply# 70   8/9/2012 at 04:02 (2,792 days old) by andy-lux ()        
New kirby

I would Probalbly buy one. But keep it In the. Box lol

Post# 194015 , Reply# 71   8/9/2012 at 10:13 (2,792 days old) by swiveltop (Galveston, TX)        

Is anyone's shower curtain missing?

Post# 194037 , Reply# 72   8/9/2012 at 15:14 (2,792 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Kirbyloverdan,
Did U buy the new Sentria II or are U a Kirby dealer or work for the company?

btw, I'm gonna wait for the 100th Anniv. Sentria II; I hope to save enough $ before then.


Post# 194039 , Reply# 73   8/9/2012 at 15:26 (2,792 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
It`s not available

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in my area yet . They have to sell off the Sentria`s my dealer told me next month .
I have something to do with Kirby (secret) . I am an avid Kirby collector / fan .
The 100th anniversary will not be called Sentria II this model being released soon is called that


Post# 194140 , Reply# 74   8/10/2012 at 09:22 (2,791 days old) by IL-Kirby-Fan ()        
Alton, IL

We're already selling the Sentria II here. I love it, it's really a pretty machine. I am looking forward to the next model though.

Post# 194149 , Reply# 75   8/10/2012 at 10:24 (2,791 days old) by kirbyvacuum (Long Island New York)        
Hi Brad

Could you please tell me if the TRIM work is Gray or Brown ? I cant tell from the Picture. Thank You Doug

Post# 194169 , Reply# 76   8/10/2012 at 14:44 (2,791 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)        
Warm Brown...

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Doug,
I emailed Kirby about just this subject. What I was told was that the trim is called Warm Brown and that it is a mix of grey and beige. I think that makes it Greige. The accent color is teal, called Mineral Blue.
I still don't like the patter of the bag, but I will learn to live with it.
Justin


Post# 194179 , Reply# 77   8/10/2012 at 16:15 (2,791 days old) by IL-Kirby-Fan ()        
Yes

The trim on the Sentria II is "warm brown"...however the cord is still gray. The brown doesn't photograph well but when you see it in person it's really nice looking. This is a very classy color scheme for Kirby to have gone with. Very trendy. People really seem to like it.

Post# 194209 , Reply# 78   8/10/2012 at 20:12 (2,791 days old) by Ipreferkirby ()        

Kirby has a tradition of not doing major redesigns, but really that is the best they can muster? Also if they want to fill in time keep the same model, please, it just confuses people.

Post# 194223 , Reply# 79   8/10/2012 at 21:28 (2,791 days old) by sanitairered (Michigan)        

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Kirby has had essentially the same model for what, 22 or 23 years? It's just one more color change before the big redesign; something different from the out of date grey bag/color scheme. I'm sure everyone will be thrilled on Kirby's 100th anniversary.

Floyd


Post# 194275 , Reply# 80   8/11/2012 at 07:20 (2,790 days old) by Ipreferkirby ()        
Same Old

Kirby, everyone on these forums (me included) get excited about the next new model hoping it is something different and we get the same thing except for a bag and slight color change.

Post# 194295 , Reply# 81   8/11/2012 at 09:36 (2,790 days old) by IL-Kirby-Fan ()        
The Kirby Design

One of the reasons I love Kirby so much is because of their consistency and continuity. All of the machines follow the same basic design and they all have the same functionality and features.

The color change was necessary. The Sentria I was the longest running model and the market was flooded with them. A lot of our sales staff were getting '07 and '08 Sentrias as trade ins on new ones. Even though the Sentria II is only a color change, that color change is very important to the market. People are ok with the machine being 'the same thing' because they already like Kirby for what it is and are ok with just the color being different. The color change is enough for people, they just like to be able to say 'I have the brand new one'. It's the whole keeping up with the Jone's affect.

If the next Kirby were to stay what it is now, just another color I am ok with it. I like what Kirbys are. If it changes but the over all performance and features are the same I am ok with that too. Kirby is the best vacuum product on the market and I trust them and their engineering and research. They've not let me down yet and I don't expect them to. That's why they're approaching their 100th birthday...they are doing things right!


Post# 194320 , Reply# 82   8/11/2012 at 13:07 (2,790 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Hi Brad.

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Hi Brad,

Any chance you can take a picture of the back of it:o)

James:o)


Post# 194323 , Reply# 83   8/11/2012 at 13:41 (2,790 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
A lot of our sales staff were getting '07 and '08 Se

Erm WHY?? !!!

Post# 194329 , Reply# 84   8/11/2012 at 15:07 (2,790 days old) by IL-Kirby-Fan ()        
James

Yeah, send me an email reminder and I will take a photo on Monday to post.

Post# 194330 , Reply# 85   8/11/2012 at 15:11 (2,790 days old) by IL-Kirby-Fan ()        
SeamusUK

I guess some people just like to have new stuff and if they can afford to why not...what sold one customer was that she like that the zipper on the newer one was straight rather than curved...another couple who traded their first Sentria in on a new one this year liked the new emptor design... I don't know, people just do weird things, especially ones that have the finances for it.

Post# 194341 , Reply# 86   8/11/2012 at 19:20 (2,790 days old) by Sanifan ()        

Wow, that is the ugliest fabric pattern I've seen in a long time. Not for me, nope. Yikes!



Post# 194384 , Reply# 87   8/12/2012 at 04:34 (2,789 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
More money than sense would be nice.....

I'm guessing the F type bag has sold some as well even though you can convert it for $20 odd in parts from Ebay lol.
I don't collect Kirbys but couldn't say no to mine for the price. I have no desire to update it in any way though- I actually prefer the look of the old Emptor......
Seamus


Post# 194429 , Reply# 88   8/12/2012 at 13:36 (2,789 days old) by IL-Kirby-Fan ()        
Kirby

I really like Kirby's new disposable bag that fits both F style and Generation Series machines. That was a great idea on their part.

Post# 194526 , Reply# 89   8/13/2012 at 03:57 (2,788 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Kirbys new bag-what type# is it?

Post# 194937 , Reply# 90   8/14/2012 at 20:31 (2,787 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I'm all for the new Sentria still looking much the same as the Generation models, it keeps my G7E looking modern even though its 9 years old now, and in England, you can pick up a G7E for 50 (about $80) - well, thats what I paid for mine anyway with a broken power cable. Kirby feel obviously that if something works well, then why keep changing it? I cant keep up with the amount of new models and re-designs Dyson has come up with since the DC01 launched in 1993 - it makes my DC04 look very old and dated now, but the Sentria 2 is essentially a 1991 G3 with LED headlight and more curvy trim and bumper strip.
I hope they carry on with the dirty fan design as in the UK, you just cant get anything for the domestic market with the direct air system any more, and it does have a great deep down clean on carpeting.
I still think that they are doing a great deal of harm to UK sales with the prices charged for the brand new models, as we are in a recession and not many people here can really afford the 1500+ ($2300) pricetag in this day and age, especially when they see that the model is still essentially a 22 year old design. People here make much more use of the hose on a vacuum nowadays and I find that it is a real faff to use the hose on my Kirby, so I only use it for deep down carpet cleaning only, and use another cleaner for the jobs that need the hose.
They need to find a way to be able to use the hose without dissassembling the front of the cleaner - and they need to make the cleaner lighter, as when I was trying to sell Kirbys 18 years ago (The G4) that was the main bug bear to the average housewife - its weight (As well as its pricetag lol!). Just wondering if the new Sentria2 is any lighter than the Generation 3 - 7 range? How much is to be the average retail price for a Sentria 2 in the US after all the haggling and discounts etc?


Post# 194966 , Reply# 91   8/14/2012 at 22:16 (2,787 days old) by mieles7 (DFW, TX)        

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I'd guess that the Sentria 2 would be $1200-$2500, since that is what they are sold for here. Royal vacuums, which are similar in design to Kirbys have a removable cap called the Adjust-O-Rite on the front that is used to indicate the correct height setting. When the adjust-o-rite is removed and the belt is removed from the shaft, the hose can be plugged in.

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Post# 194987 , Reply# 92   8/15/2012 at 00:05 (2,787 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I've seen those Royal models, very cool cleaners, very retro, the button sucks in when the height adjuster is correct. But the point is that Kirbys need to become a bit more user friendly, and move into the next millenium - I think the new bag design is cool, but if they wanted to make a real difference, it would be to make the weight lighter - good quality doesnt always have to be heavy - I bet the Royal weighs nowhere near what the Kirby does, but it has just as good suction and looks very similar. Kirbys should always retain the "Harley Davidson" of vacuums look, but I wait with trepidation for the Centenary model, will be very interesting how they finally alter the Generation main body shell.

Post# 195017 , Reply# 93   8/15/2012 at 04:27 (2,786 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I hope Kirby still carries on with their basic Direct air design--and keep in mind Kirby is the ONLY DTD upright cleaning system out there!Yes,make it lighter---but NO PLASTIC!!!!!keep the metal housings-I could maybe see Kirby going to a Titanium fan and fancase-no worries about busted fans or cases.then the Kirby would be worth the high price-they could put a lifetime waarantee on the fan and fancase!Titanium is a hard,tough,metal.And please----ditch that stupid combo floor carpet tool!Go to a real castle cut brush for bare floors and a seperate carpet surface tool.Good for places the upright can't fit-like under very low furniture.and make the tools METAL with replaceable brush strips.please.Metal wands-nice touch,too!I just think for the price of the Kirby-more use of METAL should be made here.If the machine was all metal-get rid of the transmission-would indeed make the machine lighter-remember Royal metals are all metal and they are just as easy to push as the Tech Drive Kirby!And they are easier to lift and carry.Ditch the Kirby foam carpet cleaner and go to a dry cleaning system like Host or Capture.Would be better for us folks that live in very damp climates.A Kirby attachemtn could be devised to distribute and work in the cleaner-then the regular carpet-floor head could be used to pick it up-and into a reusable dump bag-save on bag cost and soggy paper bags-the Filtrete bags should work with Host or Capture without breaking-but expensive.Damp Host or Capture weakens paper bags causing them to break or burst.-what a mess!!!

Post# 195059 , Reply# 94   8/15/2012 at 09:52 (2,786 days old) by trebor ()        
You're not supposed to...

vacuum up damp Host. If it's damp it is not done cleaning yet.


Post# 195061 , Reply# 95   8/15/2012 at 10:08 (2,786 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I've never been really a fan of the Kirby shampoo system, I have the tools and hose but no shampoo kit - I prefer to wet shampoo my carpets with a VAX machine. A agree about the Kirby accessories, the wands should be telescopic metal like Miele's, and like you say a better floorhead, but how many people actually use all the accessories, expeciall the sander/massager - when I used to show customers the massager, and they heard how loud it was, they just laughed! Kirby's excel in there dry carpet cleaning ability and the reason for the tech drive is not so much the weight of the cleaner, but due to the drag on the carpet of the suction force pulling the head down at the correct height adjustment. I know how hard some other cleaners can be to push - the greater the suction power in air-watts, the harder the cleaner is to push, regardless of its overall weight. Dyson had to modify the soleplates to include air bleed pathways on some of its early model DC07's onwards as the suction was that strong people were complaining that the cleaner was impossible to move on carpets and worse on lino flooring. Kirby soleplates have no air bleed routes and this means that full suction has to pass through the carpet, and thats why the tech drive was put on, with power increasing substantially over the older Heritage/Legend model range (1970-1990). I'm sure the tech drive could be made lighter, but still serve the same purpose, and is a main selling advantage as how many other cleaners are power assisted?
The main things Kirby needs to do, is make the hose easier and quicker to use, improve the quality of the accessories, but reduce the number of unnecessary attachments that most people never use, and make the cleaner sustantially lighter to carry. I am not going to comment on the shampoo system, as I dont have any experience of this since I used to demo it in 1994. Price is still an issue, and many people dislike the method of direct sales that Kirby still uses. I love Kirbys but really dislike the hard sell, pushy, ignorant sales techniques employed by its agents.


Post# 195229 , Reply# 96   8/15/2012 at 18:04 (2,786 days old) by FantomLightning (Ohio)        
Rex...

I don't know about Host, but Capture if left for the correct amount of time will be totally dry...

Post# 195343 , Reply# 97   8/16/2012 at 04:45 (2,785 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

In the times I have used both of those-never have seen them completely dry out.Even after waiting for an hour.Guess the dampness in my area-it REALLY damp here-even with AC.And my home has a vapor barrier under the flooring.

Post# 195344 , Reply# 98   8/16/2012 at 04:59 (2,785 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Kirby sander-messager-Remeber a freind was redoing some of the drywall in his house-He was having a hard time sanding it by hand and coping with the dust-He asked me over to help.I brought a Kirby with the sander-was GREAT for sanding the plastered areas on his new drywall-the suction system is truely dustless.No drywall dust in the room.And that sander worked even better when I used it with the NSS M1 ! Kirby can make the sanders and such which I beleive they do-sold as extras.The toolkit with the Kirby is nice-just make it better quality to match the price of the machine.Yes,Kirby does use the sealed suction "airlift" system much like Royal-and Royals are easy to push-no power drives required.Same with Sanitaire-Riccar Radiance--All of these I see my carpet "Airlifted" to the floor nozzle just like Kirby.Come to think of it other folks who have used Host cleaner have had the same problems of it not drying completely-maybe you have to wait MORE than an hour!anyway-no matter how you do it-a reusable shake out bag would be best for picking up the Host or Capture.Using disposable bags for this adds up quickly!One time I used a dump bag on a Royal to pick up spent Host-it was better.Then just dump the spent Host into a trashbag.

Post# 195345 , Reply# 99   8/16/2012 at 05:01 (2,785 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

And another thing for the drywall sanding-put the sander on the wands and you can reach high areas without a ladder!

Post# 195999 , Reply# 100   8/18/2012 at 13:10 (2,783 days old) by benwporter3 ()        

love it haha change of scenery as i sell them

Post# 197091 , Reply# 101   8/24/2012 at 13:17 (2,777 days old) by kirbykid (Horseheads,New York 14845)        

what would you guys think if kirby came out with a new vacuum style all together? kind of like a bissle or hoover? like a total rip off of another vacuum and they would start manufacturing the sentria and this new style vacuum? would you still buy it? or would you just not buy it because it is a rip off of another vacuum or its not really a kirby? now another thought of the new kirby is, what if they make a kirby that is afordable for the modern person. like a $450 vacuum. they could sell an afordable one and a higher priced one that lasts longer and is better quality.

Post# 197176 , Reply# 102   8/24/2012 at 19:25 (2,777 days old) by IL-Kirby-Fan ()        
Affordability...

Well Kirby's view point on the matter of money is they build a their product to a standard not to a price. They also feel that rather than having multiple models out, they would rather put their money toward research and development to make their next model even better rather than running different lines creating several different models sold simultaneously. I agree that a brand new Kirby is more expensive than it needs to be, but when you think of it in terms of that one machine will last a life time and the fact that it comes with a life time rebuild agreement, I guess that price isn't so bad.

Post# 197222 , Reply# 103   8/25/2012 at 02:57 (2,776 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Price of the Kirby or any other high end vacuum cleaner-think of the cost of your home furnishings the vacuum is helping you take care of--now the carpets alone in your home would cost MORE than a Kirby or other high end vac to replace.and then the other parts of the home the vacuum helps you take care of--furniture,your car,drapes and curtains,blinds,and so on.When you think of it-the vacuum cleaner has got to be one of the most commonly used home care tools.

Post# 197292 , Reply# 104   8/25/2012 at 09:31 (2,776 days old) by kirbyvacuum (Long Island New York)        
Kirby all the way

Hi Rex You are so right i am a Kirby man ALL the way. The other day my sons friend came in who is a18 year old boy says to my wife wow this new rug really looks nice she said thank you but this is a 20 year old rug cleaned with a Kirby G4 Doug

Post# 197425 , Reply# 105   8/26/2012 at 03:06 (2,775 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Guess us Kirby guys have to stick together-however,I do like other vacuums besides Kirby.Kirbys do their job well.And they are built to last.And when I use my Kirby as a "Monster Vac" with my NSS M1-did a bag autopsy and found all kinds of very fine stuff I never picked up before.Kirby "Filtrete-HEPA" style bags fit the M1.If someone here has an M1 vac-Shop Vac 5Gal paper bags will fit-you just have to push harder to get them on the M1 bag feed horn.Use the drywall yellow bags for best filtering.At present using the Kirby Filtrete bags-But remember--the Kirby does well by itself,too!Sometime when I am not working OT at work-going to try the Kirby in the hose mode connected to the M1.

Post# 197597 , Reply# 106   8/27/2012 at 08:26 (2,774 days old) by redgeminipa ()        

I love all things Kirby, but the price for a new one is really high. If you know someone who's a distributor, they might sell you one for a little over cost, which is probably no more than $750 on the high end. I'm leaning more towards the $500-600 range. When I sold them back in '94(ish), my office agreed on a price to sell one to someone I knew for $750, and it included the shampooer, zip brush and turbo accessory kit (sander/massager). They retailed that bundle for $1,400 back then.

A friend of mine had a Filter Queen distributorship for years, and she told me her cost on them was around $500.

I spoke with the national Assistant Sales Manager for Hyla-USA about distributorship a while back. He told me the entry price is at least 5 machines for $785 each plus shipping, and the price goes down by volume.

I could probably get the Hyla dealer (3 hours away from me in MD) to sell me one for $1,000 because he knows I talked to the national ASM about pricing. Otherwise, he retails them for $2,495. I'm waiting for a redesign with a brushless motor (like Rainbow) before I buy one. I can't find a definite answer about that, even from the national ASM. I believe the Hyla motor has brushes. Can anyone confirm?

I did NOT have such luck with the Rainbow reps. I offered them $1,000 cash for a new one, and they turned me down. So, we're happily content with our E2 Gold that I found for $45. It needed a power switch, HEPA filter and a new cord (still have to order the cord and filter).


Post# 197599 , Reply# 107   8/27/2012 at 08:42 (2,774 days old) by ncovert (Grove City, PA)        

The bag is really ugly in my opinion. Hopefully 2014 will present a better looking Kirby. I also don't like the fact that the brushroll indicator light is on the right side of the nozzle (looking from the back of the machine). I like it better on the left side like on the G4 and G3.

Post# 197605 , Reply# 108   8/27/2012 at 09:17 (2,774 days old) by kirbyvacuum (Long Island New York)        
New Kirby

Hi All I saw the New Kirby at my local dealer on Saturday it LOOKS MUCH BETTER IN PERSON. Nice Tranie runs very nicely Doug

Post# 198668 , Reply# 109   9/2/2012 at 03:23 (2,768 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
And on Ebay already.........

Didnt take long!

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Post# 198677 , Reply# 110   9/2/2012 at 07:43 (2,768 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I agree

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that it's NOT the best color combination. Those brown, blue and white circles and the brown and blue manual could have been much better. Still - they are great machines I'm sure.

Post# 198686 , Reply# 111   9/2/2012 at 10:08 (2,768 days old) by kenmorekid ()        
Bag

I miss the big puffiness of the older Kirby outer bags. This one looks even smaller than my Ultimate G Diamond.

Post# 198854 , Reply# 112   9/3/2012 at 05:29 (2,767 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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Hello, has any of you ever wondered why kirby doen't design a better floor tool? I've always been disappointed with kirby floor tools, did any of you noticed that they don't clean hard floors very well and that are too small if compared to the widt of the power head, being a Kirby a vacuum cleaner for homes of certain dimensions? I had to buy ( for very little, about 20 euro, a standard floor tool with front and rear brush bristles, large air path so it doesnt continously clog with objects and hairs etc and two rubber wheels that allow it to glide perfectly on hard floors and also on area rugs or carpet.i think that a cleaner of that price would deserve a much better attachment, more simple and better working! Your opinions? Greetings, Tommy

Post# 198938 , Reply# 113   9/3/2012 at 15:26 (2,767 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

I love the old Kirby's and would buy the new one in an instant, but a just can't get past that cheap plastic hose and the cheap plastic on the tools they are using now.

Post# 198949 , Reply# 114   9/3/2012 at 16:19 (2,767 days old) by FantomFan (Rochester, New York)        
kirby

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Interesting, my aunt has the sentria.

Post# 199039 , Reply# 115   9/4/2012 at 01:38 (2,766 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I can go along with the better hard floor tool,as well.GET RID of that COMBO thing Kirby now uses.For the price of the machine they could throw in a nice bare floor tool and carpet surface tool.And-yes,the toolkit needs redoing.LESS PLASTIC,PLEASE!!We are talking about a premium,DTD cleaning system that can cost upwards of $2000.

Post# 200500 , Reply# 116   9/13/2012 at 04:10 (2,757 days old) by jkbff (Dickinson, ND)        

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I just bought my mom the new chainlink Sentria II, she loves the colors... Though, I argued with her and argued, cause I just rebuilt her G3 that she has, she said she had to have the new one... A couple days later she calls me and says I can have it back if I wanna get my money back cause there are really no noticeable differences between the g3 and sentria II...... ... I nearly hung up.. All I said was 'AH DUH!'... I told her she was stuck with it.. LOL She still likes the machine.. just was thinking there would be a lot of changes... to her, the new thinner outter bags that support the new hepa bags, different transmission, pivot, carry handle on the bag holder, emtor and more poly body don't count as significant changes..

Oh well.. LOL I hope Kirby makes a self propelled vacuum in a similar design to the royal powercast... That would be a modern update!


Post# 200502 , Reply# 117   9/13/2012 at 06:26 (2,757 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Kirby-drather they stick with their tradational fan first design-its more efficient than the Royal Powercast-and LIGHTER-to power propel the Powercast-would envision a truck transmission to move it-and a forklift to lift and carry it.The Powercast failed becuase it was TOO heavy.Yes,heavier than any of the G series Kirbys.

Post# 269435 , Reply# 118   2/25/2014 at 22:17 (2,227 days old) by kirbykrazy505 ()        
It's Obvious what their doing here.

Sure, only the color changed, but ask yourself, why? Why only that?
A multi-million dollar company with top-notch engineers and designers arn''t going to "WOW" you with every release. They do this on purpose. It's quite obvious what Kirby is doing here. The Sentria II is nearly a distraction for something that is going to blow your minds. Yes, some psychology was involved here.


Post# 269446 , Reply# 119   2/26/2014 at 00:12 (2,226 days old) by dustin (Jackson, MI)        

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Basically the same story as the Heritage II legend and Legend II before the introduction of the G3 in 1990- the only difference between the Heritage II legend and Legend II is color. That's it. They held over the Heritage/Legend II by improving the color scheme, then introduced the G3. They held over the Sentria (II) by improving the color scheme, and no doubt they will come out with a new and completely different machine.

Post# 269447 , Reply# 120   2/26/2014 at 00:55 (2,226 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

A "completely different" machine for Kirby is somewhat oxymoron as they have not appreciably changed their machines in many decades. They are still heavy, bulky, and very loud that lack even the most basic convenience features. Yes they vacuum well, but so do others. I've seen many carpets that a Kirby never touched that look good for years and years. A new machine for Kirby does usually mean a bag color change and maybe slightly different shaped metal. A vacuum salesman once said to me that people are sold Kirby's, they do not buy Kirby's. Not entirely true as they have their fans for sure. I like them for historic value only.

Post# 269450 , Reply# 121   2/26/2014 at 02:02 (2,226 days old) by kirbyg6 (York)        

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Hi I can't Waite to see the new machine





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