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Post# 191981   7/28/2012 at 21:59 (2,810 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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Went to yard sales today and haven't found much over the past couple of weeks. However today I got 2. A Windtunnel Bagless and a Windtunnel Supreme bagged. The bagged Windtunnel doesn't say Supreme, but it's 15" with stretch hose, dirt sensor, same bag door as Supreme with allergen filter on outside, so its basically the Supreme Model. Possibly a refurb, as the bag door has no stickers on it other than the Hoover icon. It's U5458-910. The Windtunnel bagged was marked $30, I had $19 in my wallet, so I offered that!! The Windtunnel Bagless was marked free for parts. I turned on both machines briefly with no belt, no brush, no filters and no bag door connected. They sound good. The next pictures will tell you why I did that! The bagless model does have a dirt cup/ and filter, at the time of this photo, they were already soaking in a sink. Filter was relatively awful- of course, bagless chamber was full- of course!! Why would we expect anything less!

Post# 191985 , Reply# 1   7/28/2012 at 22:04 (2,810 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Windtunnel Bagged

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This was the agitator on the Windtunnel bagged. I tried a scissors to clear some off, when I actually found the bristles on a small area it was full proof that this agitator was unsalvagable. I wanted to try and see but this is a goner!!

"I wonder why my vacuum doesn't groom the carpet anymore."
----Maybe if you used those 10 fingers on your hands or a scissors at least once a month and cleaned your agitator, it wouldn't look like this, you'd have clean carpets and not be heading to Wolly World right now to destroy another machine!

Post# 191986 , Reply# 2   7/28/2012 at 22:08 (2,810 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Windtunnel Bagless

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"Why won't my cleaner pick up anymore?"
--First empty the dust bin, this one was full,
--Second, check and replace your stretch belt quarterly.
--Third, if you checked the belt, you'd see that you're Windtunnel cavity was clogged and most of this was actually pulled out of the main suction duct channel where the hose reaches the agitator cavity. You my friend probably didn't vacuum too ofter, so your machine choked from how much filth it found.

Post# 191987 , Reply# 3   7/28/2012 at 22:12 (2,810 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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While I can see bristles on the agitator that was on the bagless machine. They are quite heavily worn, looks like they've been run on quite a few hard surfaces. I need 2 brushrolls, 2 belts, exhaust filter for bagged model, 2 attachment compartment doors and a full set of attachments for the bagless. This is what happened when I attempted to clear the really bad one too. Definitely not salvagable. Bristles are short, completely spread apart, bearings are in bad shape. A good thing the belt broke otherwise the motor would be in bad shape. Hoping it sounds just as good when the new parts go on!!

Post# 191988 , Reply# 4   7/28/2012 at 22:19 (2,810 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Thankfully for you...

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I've had a parts Hoover windtunnel,And would be willing to sell the attachments (It came with all),And the door cover for the bagless model.I also have two brushrolls avalible,Send me an E-Mail @

Post# 191989 , Reply# 5   7/28/2012 at 22:20 (2,810 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
We're clean!

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Did everyone enjoy their shower?? Good now dry off so that Rob can put you back to work. Today we washed in Wisk and some Tide with Bleach. I decided since I washing so many filters with everything else to just stick with laundry detergent. Otherwise I'll usually use Armstong floor cleaner with some Lysol disinfectant. I always have sort of disinfectant, or a bleach cleaner in when I wash parts. I want it all spotless and smelling fresh.

Notice I did wash the Hoover TwinChamber filter. Hoover claims not to, but I've done this procedure on other TwinChamber filters and they come out great. When the machine turns on, it smells a little like Tide too, which is nice.

The key to all of this is thorough rinsing. First I rinse in hot, to remove all the extra dirt and germs, then I rinse in cold to ensure all extra soap dissipates. Cold water is better at removing soap. Some of the plastic parts get Soft Scrub to remove tough scuff marks and lighten scratches. Works good.

Notice the Windtunnel bagged door looks strange, it just the lighting and a few water marks, the bagged door is actually in excellent cosmetic shape.

Post# 191999 , Reply# 6   7/28/2012 at 23:37 (2,810 days old) by mieles7 (DFW, TX)        

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I got a wind tunnel supreme today too. I can't wait to get some bags and try it out.

Post# 192000 , Reply# 7   7/28/2012 at 23:44 (2,810 days old) by dustin (Jackson, MI)        

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That brushroll from the bagged machine looks exactly like what my aunt's long hair did to my Grandpa's Bissell Cleanview. Long hair paired with a worn belt can't spin the brushroll fast enough to repel/ throw off the hair.

Post# 192002 , Reply# 8   7/29/2012 at 00:58 (2,810 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
It looks FAB

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Can't wait to see it all together again.

Post# 192005 , Reply# 9   7/29/2012 at 01:57 (2,810 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke ()        

I sold both of those at Sears and lived with people who had the bagless version... never liked the bagless one bit, but the "Supreme" model was pretty cool. Of course I prefer the self-propelled models, but that translucent bag cover was really cool. Aggressive suction and agitation make it very powerful, but it's loud and lack things like a brushroll off when upright or for bare floor feature and the hose is so short. Looks like you did a great job with the clean up! Congrats! We'll make an upright man out of you yet :o)

Post# 192006 , Reply# 10   7/29/2012 at 01:58 (2,810 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke ()        
Oh yeah

I've never seen a brushroll that bad in my life! I thought some of mine were bad when I got them, but they can't even come close to comparing! I think that one should win some kind of award for the worst condition possible!

Post# 192032 , Reply# 11   7/29/2012 at 07:58 (2,810 days old) by director12 ()        

I have a Self-Propelled, but the headlight was never functional. Also, the brushroll doesn't turn off anymore except when upright.

Post# 192034 , Reply# 12   7/29/2012 at 08:11 (2,810 days old) by vacu-finder ()        
Brush Roll my life have i seen a brushroll so plugged up..!!

Post# 192046 , Reply# 13   7/29/2012 at 09:06 (2,810 days old) by chuffle (Rural Pennsylvania)        
I've never seen...

...such a brushroll condition!

It always amazes me to see how filthy some vacuum cleaners are when offered for sale at yard sales, thrift shops and so on. I know that vacuums are to be used to vacuum up dirt, but to see such filth makes me wonder just how clean some folk's homes are.

Kudos to you for your finds! I've always been partial to the transparent blue that Hoover used on the Windtunnels.


Post# 192050 , Reply# 14   7/29/2012 at 09:43 (2,810 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Well I can safely say I've never seen a brush roll so dirty!

You've done a great job of cleaning it up though, you should be proud.

I know how good I felt when I cleaned up my Dyson DC04 which was (if it is possible) in even worse condition than that one. At least the brush roll was clean except for a few threads though.

Post# 192051 , Reply# 15   7/29/2012 at 09:47 (2,810 days old) by rutger (England)        

That brushroll is disgusting. Did they never look under the damned thing !?

The brushrolls I have on powerheads or air-powered heads (i've no uprights) I clean after every use. To be honest I would have thought that most people would have thought to do that or at least look at them regularly.

2 great finds though, well done & at least they're now in caring hands.


Post# 192053 , Reply# 16   7/29/2012 at 09:52 (2,810 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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A vacuum is a housecleaning tool, why should I have to clean it!!!!!

It truly amazes me how neglectful people get with these. Chuffle-- if people have vacuums with agitators in this condition, I'd say that is a realization that these people's houses are not very clean.

The only other time I saw brushroll in that condition was borrowing the vacuums from Residence Hall desk during my first year of college. EVERY TIME I tried to use a vacuum from the residence hall desk- the agitator was completely full of hair, probably not as bad as above but not far off, and of course belts were broken. Of course the desk never had spare belts so once I cleaned agitator I still couldn't really use vacuums. They were Elites too!

That's why I only lived in a residence hall one year. The next year I moved into my fraternity house which had a Hoover Caddy Vac. I eBayed a factory reburfished Hoover PowerMax Deluxe S3607 canister for $80 as my vac that year.

Post# 192055 , Reply# 17   7/29/2012 at 10:01 (2,810 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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My philosophy has always been that if you don't clean it, it can't clean.

Post# 192058 , Reply# 18   7/29/2012 at 10:33 (2,810 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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Bobby, don't get too excited on making me an upright man. The bagless
Windtunnel is probably going to be sold. We're not fans of bagless in the house but a free find, this machine will yield mostly profit. Hopefully I can find a buyer that will take care of it.

I've used Hoover Windtunnel Supreme's in the past. They're great on carpet. However can't use them on bare floors cause the brush is extremely aggressive with no on/off switch. Without adding an additional hose, these machines were terribly designed for attachment use. The suction is terrific and tools aren't bad either but the hose sucks in so much it yields about a 2' cleaning radius, with knocking over the machine.

I need to find a decent Hoover Decade or Convertible, then my upright status will be better. Eureka Bravos look really nice, but why do they have to wake the dead?? Too loud. Years ago, my parents purchased a 12AMp Eureka Bravo II Boss Powerline, Hardbagged unit from BJ's Wholesale Club for $100. No headlight, newer front hood design- with the high rise where the motor and headlight would be. It was black with Gold font and underlining. It cleaned well, but was terribly loud and filtration was not good, I was always wiping the exterior of the machine from all the dust on it. I never have to wipe my canisters like that!! Also the machine always smelled like burnt rubber. I was constantly cleaning the agitator cavity, agitator ends and replacing belts and checking that the height wasn't set too low. The unit lasted 16 months till the motor had problems. It was replaced with a Hoover TurboPower 5000 canister S3577. The S3577 was bought as a floor model, and did not have as good a suction as other PowerMax's. When the cord winder stopped working after about 6.5 years, it was moved to the attic as a spare vacuum and we borrowed parts from it as some of the other PowerMax's needed a little work. The S3577 suction motor now feels stronger and is working in the case of my old S3607 which my sister's ex-fiance destroyed the motor trying to suck up water. The S3577 power head is still around as well and works good. The 2 wire plug allows it to be used with their old Dimension 1000 which is used as a spare. The Dimension 1000 has bad filtration, broken cord winder and original Quadraflex Powermatic is long gone.

Post# 192059 , Reply# 19   7/29/2012 at 10:35 (2,810 days old) by FantomFan (Rochester, New York)        
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Wow nice, how could someone use a vacuum with a brushroll like that on carpet?
Nice finds though and you did a good job of cleaning those up!!!! I'm also trying to find windtunnels.

Post# 192061 , Reply# 20   7/29/2012 at 10:39 (2,810 days old) by director12 ()        

I'd buy a 1998 or 1999 model Windtunnel (not the Self-Propelled version), they are better built than the newer model from China or Mexico.

Post# 192063 , Reply# 21   7/29/2012 at 10:54 (2,810 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke ()        

Director.... Have you changed the belts on your s/p Windtunnel? In noticed that when mine were stretched, the brushroll still tried to turn in the upright position, or when I had the slider set to off, but when I put new tight belts on, it fixed that problem.... It's a mess changing that tranny belt though... you need to have string nimble fingers (or a Dyson belt changing hook tool to help) and make sure there are no ladies present because you're going to use some swear words during the process....

Post# 192072 , Reply# 22   7/29/2012 at 12:40 (2,810 days old) by director12 ()        

No I never changed the belts. Besides, I was too lazy to buy belts, only bags and filters from Wal-Mart.

Post# 192153 , Reply# 23   7/29/2012 at 17:17 (2,810 days old) by cam2s (Nebraska)        

I cleaned a Bissell Cleanview for a friend once and the brushroll looked like that. I even showed the owner and she didn't think that there was anything wrong with it!

Post# 192355 , Reply# 24   7/30/2012 at 18:00 (2,809 days old) by jodan3399 (Brownsville, PA)        

I've never seen a brushroll that bad and I pick up most of mine curbside. Blech.

Make note of where you picked that one up, come next years sale, they'll probably have another up for grabs. Sad.

Post# 192431 , Reply# 25   7/30/2012 at 23:23 (2,808 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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The house I got it from is moving to California. It was a moving sale, so next year someone in California will get her next destroyed machine :)

Post# 192547 , Reply# 26   7/31/2012 at 15:37 (2,808 days old) by director12 ()        

I have a love/hate relationship with bagless vacuums. And I don't care about filtration, as long as the vacuum gets the mess all up, we're good. But bagged vacuums filter better however, and screw Wal-Mart for having low quality paper bags. Cloth is 10 times better.

Post# 192637 , Reply# 27   8/1/2012 at 01:36 (2,807 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

You can thank WalMart for keeping your place dusty from using their cheap bags-The cheap "Wally World" lunch sack vac bags will leak dirt into your house---and your vac-And they will clog-making your vac motor overheat!I use the Filtrete bags whenever I can-You can pack them pretty full before the airflow gives out.

Post# 192680 , Reply# 28   8/1/2012 at 12:16 (2,807 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Rob, yes, you need a nice Convertible.

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As far as those Walmart bags....another reason the HOOVER bag plant is closing. Can you imagine Walmart sells a Tempo, a bagged HOOVER, but doesn't sell HOOVER bags! I think I have a lifetime supply of genuine bags, but, will still pick up more everytime I see them. It was suggested, and, I believe to be true, that Walmart doesn't really want you to buy a bagged cleaner.

Post# 193083 , Reply# 29   8/3/2012 at 15:36 (2,805 days old) by vacuumman206 ()        
BAD brushrolls(like that 1)

I've seen a couple brushrolls that bad before. saved maybe 1 of them. literally had to use a tiny screwdriver to pick the wedged dirt out from between the bristles. amazingly on the other ones the bearings and end caps were still good so I kept them as spare parts. Had 2 once that the people didn't even know they wore the bristles right down to the nubs!

Post# 193775 , Reply# 30   8/7/2012 at 18:53 (2,801 days old) by sbakerde (Millsboro, DE )        
a tiny screw driver

I have seen many brush rolls like that come into my shop. Often on orecks continuously used with broken belts. I have about a 90% success rate of saving them. A tip: I clean/ cut off the larger debris including hair. Then re-install the roller with a new belt a run the vacuum. For really stubborn debris a wire brush works wonders while the vacuum and roller is running. I do recommend safety goggles for that step. Debris will end up all over the bench but its an efficient way to clean it up fast.

Post# 193851 , Reply# 31   8/8/2012 at 09:03 (2,800 days old) by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.)        

Although they're loud and the build quality is down, I still prefer a bagged Windtunnel upright over other clean air machines. I agree the Windtunnels of the past are built much better, and I have been using synthetic cloth bags from DVC I believe, and find they work very well. The short hose issue is not a problem with me, as I use my FQ Princess III when I need to do above floor cleaning/bare floors. The Windtunnel grooms my wall-to-wall better than any other clean air machine that I've had, including some high-end machines.

Post# 194488 , Reply# 32   8/12/2012 at 20:35 (2,795 days old) by bravokid ()        

Those bagged windtunnels are pretty good machines they move alot of air for a bypass upright you got a nice one like the blue the bagless one looks good to. I have had bad luck with the hose system on the original bagless windtunnel . Good finds

Post# 195068 , Reply# 33   8/15/2012 at 11:17 (2,793 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

We get the same over here - I think the vacuum cleaner must be the most neglected appliance in most homes - people just cant be bothered maintaining them. I mean, what would happen of you just bought a car from new, and just drove it every day, never serviced it, never checked anything for wear, never cleaned it etc? exactly, it would break down, and its the same for vacuums, they are machines with moving parts - and I cant understand someone spending 300 on a brand new Dyson, and then running it into the ground with no thought for its wellbeing, and then moaning and groaning that Dyson are crap, its the worst cleaner ever, when it stops picking up, or the motor starts arcing after just a year or so!
On the Dysons I buy to refurbish, so many of them have clogged brushrolls, and the filters are just heavily clogged its a chronic problem. I cant beleive what some people sell off for just a few pounds for the simple reason that they are ignorant to their cleaner's needs. I bought a Kirby Ultimate G in poor condition that the seller on Ebay was selling just because it kept switching on and off when she was hoovering with it, and because the body was heavily tarnished from lack of any polishing - with a bit of work, it was near perfect again - that seller owned it for just 8 years and it cost her over 1200, but she never maintained it properly and lost a hell of a lot of money on it.
Just another symptom of our throwaway society nowadays.
This pic is of a DC04 I recently bought for just 5 - the seller was selling it as it didnt work any more - its a rare limited edition model, and I rushed there to fetch it back. With a lot of work and a replacement power cable it is perfect again, but it was absolutely filthy inside and out:

Post# 195069 , Reply# 34   8/15/2012 at 11:18 (2,793 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Here it is now, with my other Dysons, all of which have been bough as spares or repairs and were filthy and unloved:

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