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Post# 189039   7/8/2012 at 16:31 (4,280 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

Heres another one i've been cleaning up for a friend after many years of being in a garage. Again it was fairly grubby but has cleaned up ok. Sadly it's missing it's original bag.

I plugged it in earlier to give it a run, it powered up for about a second then died and won't come back on. Any ideas? The fuse in the plug is fine and I don't think the suppressor has gone, there was no pop or smell of burning.

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Post# 189040 , Reply# 1   7/8/2012 at 16:32 (4,280 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

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Post# 189041 , Reply# 2   7/8/2012 at 16:33 (4,280 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

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Post# 189044 , Reply# 3   7/8/2012 at 16:45 (4,280 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

My goodness, what a difference. Very well done. Loss of power could be so many things. Check for loose connections in the mains lead and also the secondary lead from the terminal block on the back of the handle which runs down to the motor. If you tilt the handle back, you can see through the gap in the motor hood that this cable I speak to you about is attached to the pitchfork and moves up & down with the handle. It is actually a plastic tube with two wires inside and there is every chance that the tube has split right through. You will need to replace it with an ordinary length of flex to be on the safe side, but that will almost certainly require some soldering as the original wires have space connectors on the end.

You may find the carbon brushes are stuck. Some times the on/off switch is jammed on this model. Whatever it is, it should be easy to put right as there are still a good deal of Seniors around to take parts from.


Post# 189045 , Reply# 4   7/8/2012 at 17:01 (4,280 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
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Ryan
Is that a headlight on the front or just a plain panel? If headlight it is probably a leccy board special

Al


Post# 189046 , Reply# 5   7/8/2012 at 17:04 (4,280 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

It is a headlight but It was originally from Italy this one, hence the lil flower logo on the front as opposed to the royal crest. I'll have a fiddle with it tomorrow and see if I can get it going again, it must be something silly

Post# 189047 , Reply# 6   7/8/2012 at 17:24 (4,280 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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Wow! the powerplus is one of my favourite convertibles and for us EU guys it was the last one in practice. I like much the sits sound and the beating/brushing action is excellent. unfortunately poo is the handle grip. The top is the commercial C 1300. However I'm looking for the pictures of mine. Greetings, tommy.

Post# 189048 , Reply# 7   7/8/2012 at 17:25 (4,280 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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Post# 189049 , Reply# 8   7/8/2012 at 17:26 (4,280 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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Post# 189051 , Reply# 9   7/8/2012 at 17:27 (4,280 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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4 nice the white painted agitator!!!

Post# 189099 , Reply# 10   7/9/2012 at 04:00 (4,280 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

yours is lovely tommy, still has its original bag!

Post# 189108 , Reply# 11   7/9/2012 at 06:06 (4,280 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

well as predicted the problem was a stuck carbon. They were quite low anyway so i replaced them while I was at it

Post# 189109 , Reply# 12   7/9/2012 at 06:07 (4,280 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

woohoo! she lives! a video will be on its way shortly

Post# 189110 , Reply# 13   7/9/2012 at 06:13 (4,280 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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That's great Ryan! It looks brilliant, I wouldn't want to give it back, ha ha!

Where did it scale in terms of production years with the Ranger cleaners ?


Post# 189111 , Reply# 14   7/9/2012 at 06:31 (4,280 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

The Powerplus style senior came in about 1979. This white one was the very last, dating from around 1984 and lasted until the Turbomaster arrived in 1986. There was also a burgundy model which had the dust cup rather than the regular bag set up.

Post# 189112 , Reply# 15   7/9/2012 at 06:33 (4,280 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

Hoover Powerplus U4296 1984 brochure

Post# 189113 , Reply# 16   7/9/2012 at 06:35 (4,280 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

and the Dust cup model U4302

Post# 189114 , Reply# 17   7/9/2012 at 06:41 (4,280 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Thank you very much for posting those pictures!

The Powerplus really does look like a great cleaner and I can totally believe they were made to last, unlike modern pieces of... Well, you know my sentiments I'm sure!


Post# 189115 , Reply# 18   7/9/2012 at 07:22 (4,279 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Hi Ryan.
You have done a good job of cleaning up the vacs in you recent threads.
I like the white Hoover power plus. The only burgundy model power plus I've seen in person was many years ago in a second hand shop on holiday. The strange thing I remember about it now was it did not have a dust cup bag it had a regular burgandy bag with the Hoover logo on it. Never seen one since. I wonder if that was a exclusive model???

Same for my step mum's mother. She had a green Hoover Turbopower like the U2332 but with autoflex! Never seen one of those since either. I used it a few times when we went over to visit in the late 80s very early 90s. I know it broke and was replace years ago so I can't even see what model it was.

James:o)


Post# 189116 , Reply# 19   7/9/2012 at 07:34 (4,279 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

lol just like Electrolux, i'm sure theres 100's of different Exclusives and rogue models that are still to be discovered. Thats what makes it fun! That green Turbopower autoflex does sound random though.

Just gave the Powerplus it's maiden run around the living room, it's a beast!!


Post# 189118 , Reply# 20   7/9/2012 at 08:42 (4,279 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Hi,I can remember the green Turbopower with autoflex having the name Hoover on the plug.It would of been good if they had gave me the machine after they had finished with it. She gave me her panasonic upright once she had finished with that. Then again that was still working when she gave it me.

James:o)


Post# 189121 , Reply# 21   7/9/2012 at 09:21 (4,279 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

There was a burgundy Powerplus with a bag and headlight made exclusively for electricity boards. The only other two I know of are the ones shown in the brochure that Ryan posted.

I had the Powerplus with dustcup from brand new but I always wanted to get the bagged version but somehow never got round to buying one. The dustcup model was filthy to empty and lost its suction very quickly. To empty it you were supposed to unhook the bag and vigorously shake it so all the dirt clinging to the inside of it would fall into the dust cup. Even if you waited for the dust to settle, some dirt would always fall out onto the floor when you unclipped the dust cup. To get the suction back I also had to use another cleaner to vacuum the inside of the bag which defeated the object of having a so called bagless cleaner.

I believe the colour of the bagged Powerplus was rose white and mink which was also the colour used on the last U1104 Junior. It looks quite grey in the brochure, but I'm sure it was white.


Post# 189122 , Reply# 22   7/9/2012 at 09:42 (4,279 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Thanks Roger. It's nice to have confirmed there was a burgandy power plus as I've never seen one since about 1991 when I was on holiday.
I just would like to know what model the green tuebopower with autoflex was...

James:o)


Post# 189123 , Reply# 23   7/9/2012 at 09:53 (4,279 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

Here's a vid of it in action...

CLICK HERE TO GO TO ryry_87's LINK


Post# 189133 , Reply# 24   7/9/2012 at 11:57 (4,279 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        
a little sneak peak...

Just finished this 1982 Moulinex Master too. It was filthy! but has surprised me at how nice it's come up. Just waiting for some new bellows, a headlamp bulb and a new cable and I'll be doing a video.

Post# 189134 , Reply# 25   7/9/2012 at 12:26 (4,279 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Wow, what a beauty!

Post# 189140 , Reply# 26   7/9/2012 at 12:53 (4,279 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Impressive!! !!! !!

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It's not a 1977 HOOVER Ranger, but.......................... Yes, I'm running...

Post# 189141 , Reply# 27   7/9/2012 at 12:57 (4,279 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Ah, but I do happen to own one of those John, don't you forget it! Ha ha ha.

Post# 189144 , Reply# 28   7/9/2012 at 13:28 (4,279 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Ahh Ryan what a great Moulinex Master. I have a Moulinex Master that needs doing up.
It's in very poor shape. The handle is wrong as well...It's blue SCREAM! The bellows are cracked to.
Have you got a source for your Moulinex Master/Major Bulbs as there a strange voltage. 45 volts that's volts not wattage. I just wonder if you know where to get the correct bulbs???

James:o)


Post# 189146 , Reply# 29   7/9/2012 at 13:45 (4,279 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

There is a way around of that light bulb problem. You just reconfigure the wiring so that the lamp holder is wired directly to the incoming 240V. My memory tells me that the Moulinex used a small brass & porcelain light fitting with the standard 220-240 v small bayonet cap fitment, despite being wired as a tap into the motor to use a bulb of much lower voltage.

James the green turbopower with autoflex sounds very much like the grey Electricity Board model, particularity as you say it had the Hoover plug. Thinking back to it carefully, was there a headlamp? You would not be the first to mistake the colour of this cleaner for green, as it was such a strange colour and liable to fade.


Post# 189147 , Reply# 30   7/9/2012 at 13:46 (4,279 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Also the bellows for the Moulinex, you can easily use a length of ordinary vacuum hose to do the job. Even with the original Moulinex bellows a lot of silicone sealant (the sort one would put around a bath is fine) to do the job properly.

Post# 189150 , Reply# 31   7/9/2012 at 14:06 (4,279 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

I've got a friend with a stash of Moulinex bulbs which is handy so that solves that one. My mate ric has ordered 4 bellows from Amazon apparently. waiting for them to turn up or an email saying that they've been discontinued lol

Post# 189169 , Reply# 32   7/9/2012 at 14:56 (4,279 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Hi Benny, lol Yes I'm VERY sure it was NOT the Grey Turopower from the leccy board U2334 I believe. It was green like the U2332 and it had a headlight. It was exactly the same as the U2332 but had a cord rewind. As I said in the past I used it quite a few times when we went over to visit. I even had a green U2332 at one point at the same time my step mums mother had the green auto flex model,I just never thought to look at the model number or if I did I can't remember it. I am going back to 1989,90,91,92.

James:o)



Post# 189192 , Reply# 33   7/9/2012 at 16:00 (4,279 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

It certainly sounds like an exclusive line, James. Post 1990, Hoover made a good deal of different Turbopowers, many of which were exclusives. I had so many brought in for repair over the years that I stopped noticing all the variations! Of all models of any make sold in the UK since time began, I think the Turbopower has to be the number one for variations.

Post# 189193 , Reply# 34   7/9/2012 at 16:03 (4,279 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Out of interest, can you remember what the font was like on the lettering on the hood and bag door? Hoover did three different fonts that I can recall, and probably were even more.

Post# 189205 , Reply# 35   7/9/2012 at 16:24 (4,279 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Umm

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Umm I can't remember the lettering on the hood or bag door. All I can remember is it was the same as the U2332 but with a cord rewind and the Hoover name on the plug.
I also loved the smell of the air freshener in the bag door:o)


Post# 189207 , Reply# 36   7/9/2012 at 16:27 (4,279 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Sorry to go off topic slightly but are the built in air fresheners in certain Vacuum Cleaners more effective than the tabs you can buy these days that are simply put in the bag ?

I buy "Pan Aroma" freshener tabs from my local Pound Shop and especially like the vanilla one, which smells more like coconut actually.


Post# 189222 , Reply# 37   7/9/2012 at 16:46 (4,279 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Ryry, your tumble dryer is going to end up in rehab at this rate. You ply it with liqour and then make it wear a laundry basket as a hat. Outrageous.

Post# 189224 , Reply# 38   7/9/2012 at 16:49 (4,279 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Ha ha, I did see those drinks and get a bit thirsty.

Keep buying all that alcohol and you'll have no money for Vacuum Cleaners!


Post# 189226 , Reply# 39   7/9/2012 at 16:51 (4,279 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

If ever I see a Creda dryer on a park bench shouting at pigeons, we will know who it belongs to.

Post# 189231 , Reply# 40   7/9/2012 at 16:55 (4,279 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Indeed.

And Ryan being a police officer too, utterly shameful!


Post# 189245 , Reply# 41   7/9/2012 at 17:07 (4,279 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

lol believe it or not i'm tee-total, the booze belongs to my flatmate (also in the job) she obviously finds it a lot more stressful than me…lol



Post# 189246 , Reply# 42   7/9/2012 at 17:11 (4,279 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I'll believe you, many wouldn't... :)

Post# 189249 , Reply# 43   7/9/2012 at 17:15 (4,279 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

You'd think it was warm on there, but maybe mulled Malibu is the height of fashion now, I don't know anything any more.

Post# 189251 , Reply# 44   7/9/2012 at 17:20 (4,279 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

My drinking days are over. Spent far too much time mopping up the result of over excessive drinking on many a saturday night to want to drink anymore. That and recovering from a nasty liver infection (not caused by alcohol)

Clearly hasn't stopped my flatmate (or my tumble dryer) i'm sure there can't be many people that have alcoholic Creda.


Post# 189252 , Reply# 45   7/9/2012 at 17:21 (4,279 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        
mulled malibu...

you should try it benny, its exotic with a festive touch lol

Post# 189253 , Reply# 46   7/9/2012 at 17:22 (4,279 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

You make it sound like a canister of limited edition air freshener.

Post# 189254 , Reply# 47   7/9/2012 at 17:24 (4,279 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

it's been there so long it probably tastes like air freshener

Post# 189255 , Reply# 48   7/9/2012 at 17:26 (4,279 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Oh my goodness. I needed that laugh. Thank you sir.

Post# 189261 , Reply# 49   7/9/2012 at 17:33 (4,279 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

pleased to be of service. Sparkling Aromatized wine-product cocktail anyone? we've got a crate of the stuff lol

Post# 189265 , Reply# 50   7/9/2012 at 17:35 (4,279 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Never tried the Sparkling Rosé but First Cape is a good brand. Their red wine is half decent.

Post# 189268 , Reply# 51   7/9/2012 at 17:38 (4,279 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

The fact they've called it 'Sparkling Aromatized wine-product cocktail' would put me off lol the ingredients don't fill me with confidence either, look at all those sulphates?!

Post# 189324 , Reply# 52   7/10/2012 at 00:50 (4,279 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Second thoughts, the Creda can have it! I'll take the Malibu though, since you don't drink and all that...

Post# 189340 , Reply# 53   7/10/2012 at 06:43 (4,279 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

you'll have to fight the creda for it

Post# 189343 , Reply# 54   7/10/2012 at 06:57 (4,278 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Then battle will commence...

If I can't get a bottle of alcohol from a condensing tumble dryer I really need help!




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