Thread Number: 17494
Must be something in the (Rainbow) water...? |
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Post# 188690 , Reply# 1   7/6/2012 at 23:33 (4,282 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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The spread! |
Post# 188691 , Reply# 2   7/6/2012 at 23:33 (4,282 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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The machine. |
Post# 188692 , Reply# 3   7/6/2012 at 23:34 (4,282 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Manuals & Mini-powerhead - I'll rebuild that at a later date... |
Post# 188693 , Reply# 4   7/6/2012 at 23:35 (4,282 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Not un-fixable... |
Post# 188695 , Reply# 6   7/6/2012 at 23:37 (4,282 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Away we go! |
Post# 188696 , Reply# 7   7/6/2012 at 23:38 (4,282 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Top cover off! |
Post# 188697 , Reply# 8   7/6/2012 at 23:38 (4,282 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Motor! |
Post# 188698 , Reply# 9   7/6/2012 at 23:39 (4,282 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Of course, I got really into taking it apart -- so this was the last picture I got while taking the motor apart. Sorry. |
Post# 188699 , Reply# 10   7/6/2012 at 23:40 (4,282 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Now through the Dishwasher! I ran about 4 loads, some of the really dirty parts (like the fans, and motor stages) went through a few times. |
Post# 188700 , Reply# 11   7/6/2012 at 23:41 (4,282 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Everything's been run through and given a wipe down with a microfiber cloth. Back outside drying! |
Post# 188701 , Reply# 12   7/6/2012 at 23:41 (4,282 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Here are the bearings... can we guess which one was the lower motor bearing, closest to the water? |
Post# 188703 , Reply# 14   7/6/2012 at 23:48 (4,282 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Oh, here's the Blueberry Pie! :-) It was delicious. |
Post# 188708 , Reply# 15   7/7/2012 at 00:56 (4,282 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)   |   | |
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Fred, Where do you order your parts? I've been ordering from Hesco, and love them. But I am always interested in other venues to order. I want to tear down my D2, but I scared. |
Post# 188709 , Reply# 16   7/7/2012 at 01:04 (4,282 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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One word for this website. Amazing.
No parts for models as old as the D2 though... I want to tear that one apart, too. I'm working up to it! CLICK HERE TO GO TO HooverCelebrity's LINK |
Post# 188723 , Reply# 17   7/7/2012 at 04:07 (4,282 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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I must say, that Rainbow looks different to what I expected! I knew they were "water vacs" but had never seen one because we don't have them here in the UK and I'd never bothered clicking on any of the threads here. I thought they would be quite futuristic, but I'm pleased that they look traditional, much prefer that.
Now, onto the more important subject, that pie looks delicious... Don't have a spare slice, do you ? |
Post# 188732 , Reply# 18   7/7/2012 at 07:11 (4,282 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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You got a great deal! It's so much fun to tear stuff down, clean everything, and then rebuild it. I was afraid to run the main housing through the dishwasher because of the decals, but yours stood up to the challenge. For those parts, I've been hand washing with laundry detergent and bleach. But I think I'll give it a try in the dishwasher! Parts for the D2 are a little more challenging to find, but not impossible. Here's one site I've used. Like goodvac.com, they are very reliable and ship quickly. CLICK HERE TO GO TO eurekastar's LINK |
Post# 188733 , Reply# 19   7/7/2012 at 07:13 (4,282 days old) by Vinvac (Dubuque IA)   |   | |
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Fred,
I wish I had your talent...I can tear them down, but when it comes to the motors...I chicken out...LOL That pie looks wonderful! It has been too hot here to work on anything. I started taking a lux powerhead apart yesterday..was soaked clear through in about the time it took to take out the two screws...so I cam back in the house. Morgan |
Post# 188734 , Reply# 20   7/7/2012 at 07:16 (4,282 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Here's another site that I've found reliable and helpful. The D2 used two different motors during its production. Parts for the newer motor are still available. But I don't know if they are interchangeable. CLICK HERE TO GO TO eurekastar's LINK |
Post# 188758 , Reply# 21   7/7/2012 at 11:33 (4,281 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan )   |   | |
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That's a good model Fred. I have a RainbowD4C that I use for everything almost everyday. The only difference is that my powernozzle hose are a different configuration. I have the old old school where the cord is strapped to the outside of the hose and it's one long cord that pluggs directly into the unit. I just recently bought new hoses that look a lot nicer. I hope you enjoy your new Rainbow. I love mine.
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Post# 188774 , Reply# 22   7/7/2012 at 13:07 (4,281 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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Post# 188791 , Reply# 23   7/7/2012 at 13:58 (4,281 days old) by reginafan ()   |   | |
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Fred, Your skills are amazing! And that pie looks fabulous! |
Post# 189029 , Reply# 26   7/8/2012 at 15:21 (4,280 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 189082 , Reply# 28   7/8/2012 at 23:08 (4,280 days old) by BriGuy (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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Fred, thanks for sharing your teardown process photos. I always enjoy seeing the process step by step & older machines given a proper thorough cleaning. On my next teardown & rebuild, I am going to try running parts thru the dishwasher. I usually wash parts down outside or in the bath tub. Been a little hesitant to use the dishwasher, but I guess as long as the heat dry cycle is not used then they should be fine?? Excited to see your reassembly photos when you post them!
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Post# 189091 , Reply# 30   7/9/2012 at 00:07 (4,280 days old) by goadie12 ()   |   | |
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Quick question Fred what kind of detergent do you use because since every one else is running the vacuums through the dishwasher I had to try but mine didn't come out very clean at all thanks? Zach |
Post# 189405 , Reply# 31   7/10/2012 at 17:52 (4,278 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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I don't know why the "cup style" Spider isn't made anymore? Or are they only available through a Rainbow service center? |
Post# 189407 , Reply# 32   7/10/2012 at 18:38 (4,278 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 189413 , Reply# 34   7/10/2012 at 20:02 (4,278 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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I have yet to give the D4SE (the one my parents bought new) a spa treatment soon. btw, I use Mr. Clean to hand wash the parts, since I don't have a dishwasher. |
Post# 189429 , Reply# 36   7/10/2012 at 22:41 (4,278 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Everything laid out on the dining room table ready to go back together... |
Post# 189441 , Reply# 40   7/11/2012 at 00:02 (4,278 days old) by shelly (california)   |   | |
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This is exciting, too bad about the break. Can't wait to see the finished result. |
Post# 189444 , Reply# 41   7/11/2012 at 00:36 (4,278 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 189470 , Reply# 42   7/11/2012 at 07:18 (4,278 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Fred, sorry about that. It's very frustrating when that stuff happens. Glad to know that I'm not the only one who has those mishaps. About the nut -- I don't remember in what direction it tightens. But if it has left handed threads, I don't think it needs to be too tight. I think it will continue to tighten up as the motor spins. |
Post# 189940 , Reply# 47   7/14/2012 at 22:53 (4,274 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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So, here's the final product, all back together -- ready for some closeups! |
Post# 189941 , Reply# 48   7/14/2012 at 22:54 (4,274 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Ta daa! |
Post# 189944 , Reply# 49   7/14/2012 at 22:54 (4,274 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Attachments... |
Post# 189945 , Reply# 50   7/14/2012 at 22:56 (4,274 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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New Cord! The attachment caddy/cord wrap is kind of cheezy, but it works, and is somewhat handy. |
Post# 189946 , Reply# 51   7/14/2012 at 22:57 (4,274 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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That stupid &$#@&^ spider, under the retaining plate where it belongs... |
Post# 189948 , Reply# 53   7/14/2012 at 22:59 (4,274 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Another cool picture. |
Post# 189949 , Reply# 54   7/14/2012 at 23:00 (4,274 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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I think it may feel a bit out of place? |
Post# 189953 , Reply# 56   7/14/2012 at 23:25 (4,274 days old) by shelly (california)   |   | |
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Wow, you really made the effort to get it running and looking good while doing it. Your kitchen is beautiful! BTW, my SE PN is a bit noisy like that too, it may just be the way it is. |
Post# 189975 , Reply# 58   7/15/2012 at 06:09 (4,274 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Hi Fred,
I have had the power nozzle you have and mine did not seal to the carpet. However it was not very loud. Also your water basin looks a little different than mine. Almost like it has an extra lip...I sold my SE and got the SE PE when it came out. Both the SE and SEPE had the same water basin without the extra lip that seals the basin to the gasket. I looked at goodvac and their water basin for an SE looks like mine...it says it will fit D3's on up until the E Series. The powernozzle you have should still be a very good cleaner. It uses the same brush roll as the wooden distributor that is still made by Eureka. The SEPE powernozzle is a very good power nozzle as well, the only problem with it is that it lifts up on the back stroke. They took care of this problem on the new Black Rainbow. PS the water lift on these is in the 60's. But as you said earlier, it is the airflow that cleans. As long as you do not pick up non wettable things, your exhaust port will always be nice and clean. Sincerely, Bud Mattingly |
Post# 189977 , Reply# 59   7/15/2012 at 06:57 (4,274 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 189982 , Reply# 60   7/15/2012 at 07:37 (4,274 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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So cool!
I didn't realize they had the 14 foot hoses with the older machines, but I do know one thing, they are GREAT! Glad you ordered one. You can literally park the rainbow and get everything high and low as far as dusting & you don't need to keep switching outlets as well. Did you put anything in the water for scent? |
Post# 189994 , Reply# 62   7/15/2012 at 10:03 (4,273 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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How about an AquaMate to shampoo the carpet & squeegee & squeegee adaptor to wash the floors? I'll bet that'll be a COMPLETE Rainbow vac; no Rainbow SE is complete without an AquaMate. |
Post# 189995 , Reply# 63   7/15/2012 at 11:11 (4,273 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL)   |   | |
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That turned out absolutely beautiful! As of right now, I really do not have the confidence to do a tear down like that, so I applaud you on that! I do have one question, when you ordered the 10 foot electric hose, did the handle come attached? I would like to get one for my SE, but I would want it to have the trigger handle like my regular hose has.
Thanks and Congrats! Chase |
Post# 189996 , Reply# 64   7/15/2012 at 11:25 (4,273 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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Here's a 12ft ELECTRIFIED hose, complete w/handle. CLICK HERE TO GO TO floor-a-matic's LINK |
Post# 190004 , Reply# 66   7/15/2012 at 12:39 (4,273 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Fred ,
First off nice work on the rainbow, you have given me the motivation to get one that has been sitting in my shop for ages out and rebuild it. BTW we use a large Indesit dishwasher to wash all the body partsof the vacuums we work on , however we do use it on heat but I have fitted a new lower temp element into it as the original one got very hot, it never melted anything but would dryout the plastic, especially on lavender colour parts. If you don't mind me asking what do you do for a living Gareth |
Post# 190045 , Reply# 68   7/15/2012 at 16:11 (4,273 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 190079 , Reply# 69   7/15/2012 at 18:26 (4,273 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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I don't think it's significant. I can speak for the 14 foot non electric hose as it wants to inhale everything in its path. I didn't bother buying the longer electric hose since I'm only getting carpets with that and not high places, but I guess the suction loss due to length would be minimal. I do know they also sell a 30 foot hose! Can you believe that? I mean, that's like a central vacuum hose!
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Post# 190146 , Reply# 71   7/16/2012 at 07:24 (4,273 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 190151 , Reply# 72   7/16/2012 at 07:40 (4,273 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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Fred, The gasket on my SE always is a little damp after use (not soaked)and has always been that way since it was new. I don't think this is the case with my "d" or the new machine. |
Post# 190200 , Reply# 73   7/16/2012 at 16:11 (4,272 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 190227 , Reply# 74   7/16/2012 at 18:48 (4,272 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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I meant this AquaMate (the blue one) All you need to do is change the cord & it should work on the older Rainbows like the D4SE & earlier. U can also get the squeegee blade for it too, to do bare floors. CLICK HERE TO GO TO floor-a-matic's LINK |
Post# 190247 , Reply# 75   7/16/2012 at 20:46 (4,272 days old) by dial-a-nap (Omaha - the home of the TV Dinner)   |   | |
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Post# 190273 , Reply# 76   7/16/2012 at 22:40 (4,272 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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I vacuumed tonight with a D4 and afterwards checked the gasket. It was slightly wet on one side. That made me curious so I latched an empty water basin onto the motor unit and did a visual inspection. What I found was that the mouth of the water basin doesn't line up perfectly with the gasket. There's just a little overhang and that's where the gasket was wet. |
Post# 190369 , Reply# 77   7/17/2012 at 16:11 (4,271 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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The gasket on my SE is getting brittle & flaking off, so I'm going to need a new one soon. Even with a worn gasket, the SE still has full suction. :) |
Post# 190539 , Reply# 80   7/18/2012 at 23:23 (4,270 days old) by BriGuy (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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Thanks again Fred for sharing all your rebuild photos & thoughts on the Rainbow.
I have enjoyed reading your comments & getting to see all the great pics you have taken. It has me thinking that I might need to add a Rainbow to my collection! I have used one in the past, but have not had alot of experience with them. I guess my biggest "hangup" about them is the perceived hassle I see with filling the water, changing it periodically & emptying & drying it out after every use. But I still think I could get past all of that to enjoy such a nice machine. LOL |
Post# 190540 , Reply# 81   7/18/2012 at 23:43 (4,270 days old) by shelly (california)   |   | |
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My gasket looks pretty much like that too. You look very handsome holding your SE. |
Post# 190565 , Reply# 82   7/19/2012 at 06:04 (4,270 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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I'm pretty sure seeing that wet is normal. My E series has a different gasket type material (almost like a really hard rubber type material) and it's a little wet when I'm done. Glad you're not letting the little extra effort get to you. I'm going to have to look "fresh air scent" up......not sure what it is. Personally, I'm addicted to the essential oil scents.
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Post# 190576 , Reply# 84   7/19/2012 at 09:05 (4,269 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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