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Post# 188314   7/4/2012 at 16:49 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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My mum had one of these brand new when they came out in 1996, I remember our De Stijl like it was yesterday, I was in love with it then and still am now, until she Got a DC07 Animal which I hated, with a Passion!! She wasn't keen on it either. The DC01's are not very powerful but it is an ok vacuum but will only really surface clean but to be honest what Dyson will clean deep down anyway. :P

I got two of these because, the one I got first was discoloured, plastic was chipped off in places, stickers were faded and it was generally not in good condition, luckily, there was another De Stijl on eBay that was in excellent condition so I grabbed it. Now I have the best one for show and the other one in use.

The DC01 on the left (when I bought it) had a purple cord and the regular DC01 bin insert, but the one on the right (when I bought it) had a grey cord and DC04 bin insert, as the one on the right was in better condition I swapped the cord and bin insert over so now the better condition 01 is all original.

Here are some pictures of both the DC01's.





Post# 188315 , Reply# 1   7/4/2012 at 16:50 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
I will start with the better condition one....

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Post# 188316 , Reply# 2   7/4/2012 at 16:51 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Post# 188317 , Reply# 3   7/4/2012 at 16:52 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Post# 188319 , Reply# 4   7/4/2012 at 16:54 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Post# 188320 , Reply# 5   7/4/2012 at 16:54 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Post# 188321 , Reply# 6   7/4/2012 at 16:58 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Data sticker...

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you will see when I show the data sticker for the other 01 that it is the exact same date!


Post# 188322 , Reply# 7   7/4/2012 at 16:59 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Post# 188323 , Reply# 8   7/4/2012 at 17:01 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
I am glad it has it's red base plate and cradle!

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Post# 188326 , Reply# 9   7/4/2012 at 17:02 (2,830 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I'm a bagged guy and that's how it's going to stay, but those Dysons don't look half bad... Good idea to use the more beat up one for daily vacuuming, where it will see more wear and tare and keep the good one for show.

Post# 188327 , Reply# 10   7/4/2012 at 17:03 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Good bye bag...... NEVER!!

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Post# 188328 , Reply# 11   7/4/2012 at 17:04 (2,830 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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After seeing the picture of that brush roll, I now know why Dysons are so bad at picking up fine dirt. There is no provision for beating the carpet!

Surely Dyson knew just brushes (and even they are sparse) wouldn't clean efficiently ?


Post# 188329 , Reply# 12   7/4/2012 at 17:04 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Has all of it's tools :)

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Post# 188330 , Reply# 13   7/4/2012 at 17:06 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Old Dyson plug

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Post# 188331 , Reply# 14   7/4/2012 at 17:08 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
The outside of the wand is intact but the inside is broke :(

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Post# 188332 , Reply# 15   7/4/2012 at 17:10 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
And finally...

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Post# 188333 , Reply# 16   7/4/2012 at 17:12 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Here is the other not as good condition one

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Post# 188334 , Reply# 17   7/4/2012 at 17:14 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
faded and tatty stickers

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Post# 188336 , Reply# 18   7/4/2012 at 17:15 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Post# 188337 , Reply# 19   7/4/2012 at 17:18 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Post# 188338 , Reply# 20   7/4/2012 at 17:19 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
As you can see, same date...

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Post# 188339 , Reply# 21   7/4/2012 at 17:22 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
I think this should win an award for UV discolouration LOL

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Post# 188340 , Reply# 22   7/4/2012 at 17:23 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
This is why you should NOT wash hepa filters, haha

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Post# 188341 , Reply# 23   7/4/2012 at 17:27 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
It has a red sole plate and cradle, but it is broken in thre

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Post# 188343 , Reply# 24   7/4/2012 at 17:29 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
There is also a crack on the side of the sole plate, I beg y

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Post# 188344 , Reply# 25   7/4/2012 at 17:35 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Funnily enough, the inside of the wand is intact but the out

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Post# 188346 , Reply# 26   7/4/2012 at 17:42 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Here is a pic of the logo on the cleaner head of the better

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Post# 188354 , Reply# 27   7/4/2012 at 17:57 (2,830 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Sorry Jamie, I didn't see your comments before, I was too busy posting all the pictures, god it took ages!
I am a bagged person too, I like the idea of bagless but I think I will be sticking to bags; I do like the 90's Dyson's (so up to the DC05).
I do think Dyson's should make better brush rolls the bristles are to sparse like you said.
Beaters/beater bars do help with imbedded dirt but you don't actually need them really a vacuum with all bristles will still agitate (although not all bristle brush rolls are created equal) Take a Kirby or a Sebo, they have all bristle brush rolls and agitate very well.


Post# 188424 , Reply# 28   7/5/2012 at 06:11 (2,829 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Surely Dyson knew just brushes (and even they are sparse) wo

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The crappy brushroll is one of my biggest bug bares with Dyson. They've never been particularly good and the clutch models with the helix brushroll are even worse (even though the cleaner head really does stick to the carpet on the later models). They pick up surface litter ok, but for deep down cleaning? Forget it. It doesn't necessarily need to have beaters - neither Kirby or Sebo have beater bars. It just needs a nice, dense brushroll with stiff bristles. The few bristles that the Dyson brushroll has are actually pretty good, there just needs to be more of them.

Post# 188439 , Reply# 29   7/5/2012 at 09:44 (2,829 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I agree - a beater bar isn't all the be all and end all. I thought the brush bar on my DC01 was perfectly acceptable - I don't tend to analyse how the brush rolls - if it leaves my carpets looking clean and groomed, then I'd be happy. Also none of the brush rolls in Miele et al turbo brush heads have beaters - they're not all bad.


Post# 188444 , Reply# 30   7/5/2012 at 10:30 (2,829 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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"if it leaves my carpets looking clean and groomed, then I'd be happy." So you don't care that the Dyson is leaving behind fine dust that you can't see ?

Post# 188452 , Reply# 31   7/5/2012 at 11:13 (2,829 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Do you know, I really wish just wish you'd learn to stop responding unless you have actually owned a Dyson. The only bagless you owned is a Dustmanager. No wonder that's all you know as the basis of leaving dust behind- that I can understand as I had one of those horrid Hoovers before. And for your info JM, bagged vacuums leave dust behind too - especially the soft bagged Hoover uprights. We don't all want to know where your conversation is going to lead, because it will always return -like it normally does - to the machines you have on your profile.

 

The last time we went down this road before you went on and on about your blessed Hoover Ranger and if it wasn't that, it was a constant reflection to dirty fan uprights.

 


Post# 188453 , Reply# 32   7/5/2012 at 11:18 (2,829 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Oh I am the first to admit that I don't own a Dyson, BUT, I've heard it spoken many a time and PROVED on a YouTube video that Dysons leave dust behind.

If you don't want to accept that then that's your problem.

And did I mention my "blessed" Ranger ? No, I don't believe I did.


Post# 188458 , Reply# 33   7/5/2012 at 11:53 (2,829 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
I really wish just wish you'd learn to stop responding u

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I completely agree! Although Jamie is not the only one guilty of doing this. There are many people out there notorious for judging the performance of a vacuum cleaner by watching a YouTube video. Anybody that bases their entire opinion of the performance of a cleaner on watching a video has absolutely no valid argument or point to raise regarding said cleaner. You cannot form an opinion on any cleaner until you have used it; preferably in your home environment. What works for one person might not work for somebody else. Also, as much as I love my vintage vacuums, they're not perfect. The softbags in particular. I don't think they leave much behind, but they do spew a lot more dust back out into the air than a hardbag with decent filters.

Post# 188459 , Reply# 34   7/5/2012 at 12:01 (2,829 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Chris, I am NOT saying I know the ins and outs of a Dyson from watching a video - ALL I said was that the video proved even a Junior picked up more fine dirt than a Dyson.

And for the record, I have used a DC01 so although I don't currently own one I do have some experience.

What is this, a créche ?


Post# 188462 , Reply# 35   7/5/2012 at 12:05 (2,829 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
What is this, a créche ?

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insert well known expression regarding a pot and a kettle...

Post# 188465 , Reply# 36   7/5/2012 at 12:09 (2,829 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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And in what way am I being childish ?

Post# 188556 , Reply# 37   7/5/2012 at 17:27 (2,829 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Oh you don't have to mention the actual word "Ranger," JM -we all know what you'll be leading up to though.

 

Respectively, owning and using are two different aspects - but I do wish you'd make up your mind and stop shooting yourself in the foot. First you say you don't own a Dyson and then you judge the performance from another's video. I think we were here before with another thread regarding videos: http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?17310

 

On post 186116 you actually state "you need to actually be there and use it," in reference to actual ownership versus video judgement alone. Later in the same thread you admit you like to Dyson bash.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Post# 188722 , Reply# 38   7/7/2012 at 04:02 (2,827 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        
jmurray01

How was the dc01? what didn't you like and what did you like? My DC07 standard is my best ever upright with seals in the soleplate and the DC08 is my best cylinder i have ever used

Post# 188998 , Reply# 39   7/8/2012 at 08:29 (2,826 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
videos and vacuums

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so chris, i cant say if the sebo x4's are good even though i have watched many reviews with people saying how good they are, and how they like the performance, and when alex did that video of the x4 test you, cant judge the performance of the machine thereofre you cant say alex's sebo did good

Post# 189008 , Reply# 40   7/8/2012 at 12:12 (2,826 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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^You can't entirely form a fully valid and informed opinion of any cleaner until you have actually use it in person. I've been caught out before with that and learnt the hard way not to judge a cleaner until I've used it. 

 

And hey, Dyson get hundreds of good reviews, doesn't mean I like em....


Post# 189011 , Reply# 41   7/8/2012 at 12:44 (2,826 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Talking of reviews, you know the PurePower has many good reviews on the Argos website ? Yet we know better and it astonishes me that people can actually praise the PP with all the faults we know about being collectors and enthusiasts.

Post# 189016 , Reply# 42   7/8/2012 at 13:48 (2,826 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Bottom line is though, Jamie, that the Purepower has pretty reasonable pick up. If you ignore the fact that we are enthusiasts of vacuums and put yourself in the general consumers shoes for a moment, the Purepower isn't as bad as we make it out to be. It's only because we notice the design flaws and also compare with other vacuums. To your average vacuum buying public, the Purepower picks the mess up off the carpet. Job done. 


Post# 189021 , Reply# 43   7/8/2012 at 14:11 (2,826 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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You have a point there.

The Dust Manager on the other hand, even the general consumer wouldn't be able to ignore the flaws in that!


Post# 189064 , Reply# 44   7/8/2012 at 19:30 (2,826 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Buyers and Collectors - Two very different groups of peeps.

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RE: Argos reviews.

Argos reviews are very much written by the common buyer and I tend to look at them if I'm buying a product from Argos before passing off my money. In terms of the PP vacs though Jamie, a lot of buyers just buy the machine because it has the "Hoover" name attached to it. Yet with other models, some buyers have put comments on that slate the particular model, citing that Hoover weren't the brand they thought they were buying, leading from their past glory.

Another review company, Reevoo seems to be used by Hoover UK on their own website but they never seem to check up on the actual content of the reviews, only using the average rating to promote the models - yet some of the Reevoo reviews are really quite damaging to some of the machines that Hoover have not done their homework in checking up with.

It does surprise me that Hoover don't learn from their reputation. Clearly although the Pure Power has its many faults, its bag design is far more efficient even if buyers do have to source bags. Buyers tend to live the mantra that if you buy a cheap bag less upright vacuum, it means no more buying bags - but then they find they have to either buy a replacement filter or a drive belt. End of the day they have to keep buying something for it. As Chris states quite clearly, buyers aren't that bothered in flaws - they buy a machine that is fit for purpose.

I have however said this before and will continue to do again - when I had to live with a Dustmanager in a rented property, a friend from the Yahoo Hooverland group advised me to get a bag holder grommet from either an old Pure Power or from a repair shop, thus chucking away the hopeless split bag less bin design and screwing in the bag holder to the back of the machine that just uses the Pure Power body. Result? A high suction powered upright vacuum able to use the dust bags AND maintaining better power, suction and ultimately the performance the design illustrates. The cost of the part was next to nothing either!

Albeit being noisy and a brute to push - an inherent design fault I hate about Pure Powers despite their height selection.



Post# 189213 , Reply# 45   7/9/2012 at 16:33 (2,825 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        

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