Thread Number: 17476
Dyson DC01 De Stijl X2 |
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Post# 188314   7/4/2012 at 16:49 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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My mum had one of these brand new when they came out in 1996, I remember our De Stijl like it was yesterday, I was in love with it then and still am now, until she Got a DC07 Animal which I hated, with a Passion!! She wasn't keen on it either. The DC01's are not very powerful but it is an ok vacuum but will only really surface clean but to be honest what Dyson will clean deep down anyway. :P I got two of these because, the one I got first was discoloured, plastic was chipped off in places, stickers were faded and it was generally not in good condition, luckily, there was another De Stijl on eBay that was in excellent condition so I grabbed it. Now I have the best one for show and the other one in use. The DC01 on the left (when I bought it) had a purple cord and the regular DC01 bin insert, but the one on the right (when I bought it) had a grey cord and DC04 bin insert, as the one on the right was in better condition I swapped the cord and bin insert over so now the better condition 01 is all original. Here are some pictures of both the DC01's. |
Post# 188315 , Reply# 1   7/4/2012 at 16:50 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188316 , Reply# 2   7/4/2012 at 16:51 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188317 , Reply# 3   7/4/2012 at 16:52 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188319 , Reply# 4   7/4/2012 at 16:54 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188320 , Reply# 5   7/4/2012 at 16:54 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188321 , Reply# 6   7/4/2012 at 16:58 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188322 , Reply# 7   7/4/2012 at 16:59 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188323 , Reply# 8   7/4/2012 at 17:01 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188326 , Reply# 9   7/4/2012 at 17:02 (4,307 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 188327 , Reply# 10   7/4/2012 at 17:03 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188328 , Reply# 11   7/4/2012 at 17:04 (4,307 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 188329 , Reply# 12   7/4/2012 at 17:04 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188330 , Reply# 13   7/4/2012 at 17:06 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188331 , Reply# 14   7/4/2012 at 17:08 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188332 , Reply# 15   7/4/2012 at 17:10 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188333 , Reply# 16   7/4/2012 at 17:12 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188334 , Reply# 17   7/4/2012 at 17:14 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188336 , Reply# 18   7/4/2012 at 17:15 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188337 , Reply# 19   7/4/2012 at 17:18 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188338 , Reply# 20   7/4/2012 at 17:19 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188339 , Reply# 21   7/4/2012 at 17:22 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188340 , Reply# 22   7/4/2012 at 17:23 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188341 , Reply# 23   7/4/2012 at 17:27 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188343 , Reply# 24   7/4/2012 at 17:29 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188344 , Reply# 25   7/4/2012 at 17:35 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188346 , Reply# 26   7/4/2012 at 17:42 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188354 , Reply# 27   7/4/2012 at 17:57 (4,307 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Sorry Jamie, I didn't see your comments before, I was too busy posting all the pictures, god it took ages!
I am a bagged person too, I like the idea of bagless but I think I will be sticking to bags; I do like the 90's Dyson's (so up to the DC05). I do think Dyson's should make better brush rolls the bristles are to sparse like you said. Beaters/beater bars do help with imbedded dirt but you don't actually need them really a vacuum with all bristles will still agitate (although not all bristle brush rolls are created equal) Take a Kirby or a Sebo, they have all bristle brush rolls and agitate very well. |
Post# 188424 , Reply# 28   7/5/2012 at 06:11 (4,307 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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The crappy brushroll is one of my biggest bug bares with Dyson. They've never been particularly good and the clutch models with the helix brushroll are even worse (even though the cleaner head really does stick to the carpet on the later models). They pick up surface litter ok, but for deep down cleaning? Forget it. It doesn't necessarily need to have beaters - neither Kirby or Sebo have beater bars. It just needs a nice, dense brushroll with stiff bristles. The few bristles that the Dyson brushroll has are actually pretty good, there just needs to be more of them.
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Post# 188439 , Reply# 29   7/5/2012 at 09:44 (4,306 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I agree - a beater bar isn't all the be all and end all. I thought the brush bar on my DC01 was perfectly acceptable - I don't tend to analyse how the brush rolls - if it leaves my carpets looking clean and groomed, then I'd be happy. Also none of the brush rolls in Miele et al turbo brush heads have beaters - they're not all bad. |
Post# 188444 , Reply# 30   7/5/2012 at 10:30 (4,306 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 188452 , Reply# 31   7/5/2012 at 11:13 (4,306 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Do you know, I really wish just wish you'd learn to stop responding unless you have actually owned a Dyson. The only bagless you owned is a Dustmanager. No wonder that's all you know as the basis of leaving dust behind- that I can understand as I had one of those horrid Hoovers before. And for your info JM, bagged vacuums leave dust behind too - especially the soft bagged Hoover uprights. We don't all want to know where your conversation is going to lead, because it will always return -like it normally does - to the machines you have on your profile.
The last time we went down this road before you went on and on about your blessed Hoover Ranger and if it wasn't that, it was a constant reflection to dirty fan uprights.
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Post# 188453 , Reply# 32   7/5/2012 at 11:18 (4,306 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 188458 , Reply# 33   7/5/2012 at 11:53 (4,306 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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I completely agree! Although Jamie is not the only one guilty of doing this. There are many people out there notorious for judging the performance of a vacuum cleaner by watching a YouTube video. Anybody that bases their entire opinion of the performance of a cleaner on watching a video has absolutely no valid argument or point to raise regarding said cleaner. You cannot form an opinion on any cleaner until you have used it; preferably in your home environment. What works for one person might not work for somebody else. Also, as much as I love my vintage vacuums, they're not perfect. The softbags in particular. I don't think they leave much behind, but they do spew a lot more dust back out into the air than a hardbag with decent filters.
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Post# 188459 , Reply# 34   7/5/2012 at 12:01 (4,306 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Chris, I am NOT saying I know the ins and outs of a Dyson from watching a video - ALL I said was that the video proved even a Junior picked up more fine dirt than a Dyson.
And for the record, I have used a DC01 so although I don't currently own one I do have some experience. What is this, a créche ? |
Post# 188462 , Reply# 35   7/5/2012 at 12:05 (4,306 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 188465 , Reply# 36   7/5/2012 at 12:09 (4,306 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 188556 , Reply# 37   7/5/2012 at 17:27 (4,306 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Oh you don't have to mention the actual word "Ranger," JM -we all know what you'll be leading up to though.
Respectively, owning and using are two different aspects - but I do wish you'd make up your mind and stop shooting yourself in the foot. First you say you don't own a Dyson and then you judge the performance from another's video. I think we were here before with another thread regarding videos: http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?17310
On post 186116 you actually state "you need to actually be there and use it," in reference to actual ownership versus video judgement alone. Later in the same thread you admit you like to Dyson bash.
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Post# 188722 , Reply# 38   7/7/2012 at 04:02 (4,305 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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How was the dc01? what didn't you like and what did you like? My DC07 standard is my best ever upright with seals in the soleplate and the DC08 is my best cylinder i have ever used |
Post# 188998 , Reply# 39   7/8/2012 at 08:29 (4,303 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )   |   | |
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Post# 189008 , Reply# 40   7/8/2012 at 12:12 (4,303 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 189011 , Reply# 41   7/8/2012 at 12:44 (4,303 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 189016 , Reply# 42   7/8/2012 at 13:48 (4,303 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Bottom line is though, Jamie, that the Purepower has pretty reasonable pick up. If you ignore the fact that we are enthusiasts of vacuums and put yourself in the general consumers shoes for a moment, the Purepower isn't as bad as we make it out to be. It's only because we notice the design flaws and also compare with other vacuums. To your average vacuum buying public, the Purepower picks the mess up off the carpet. Job done. |
Post# 189021 , Reply# 43   7/8/2012 at 14:11 (4,303 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 189064 , Reply# 44   7/8/2012 at 19:30 (4,303 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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RE: Argos reviews.
Argos reviews are very much written by the common buyer and I tend to look at them if I'm buying a product from Argos before passing off my money. In terms of the PP vacs though Jamie, a lot of buyers just buy the machine because it has the "Hoover" name attached to it. Yet with other models, some buyers have put comments on that slate the particular model, citing that Hoover weren't the brand they thought they were buying, leading from their past glory. Another review company, Reevoo seems to be used by Hoover UK on their own website but they never seem to check up on the actual content of the reviews, only using the average rating to promote the models - yet some of the Reevoo reviews are really quite damaging to some of the machines that Hoover have not done their homework in checking up with. It does surprise me that Hoover don't learn from their reputation. Clearly although the Pure Power has its many faults, its bag design is far more efficient even if buyers do have to source bags. Buyers tend to live the mantra that if you buy a cheap bag less upright vacuum, it means no more buying bags - but then they find they have to either buy a replacement filter or a drive belt. End of the day they have to keep buying something for it. As Chris states quite clearly, buyers aren't that bothered in flaws - they buy a machine that is fit for purpose. I have however said this before and will continue to do again - when I had to live with a Dustmanager in a rented property, a friend from the Yahoo Hooverland group advised me to get a bag holder grommet from either an old Pure Power or from a repair shop, thus chucking away the hopeless split bag less bin design and screwing in the bag holder to the back of the machine that just uses the Pure Power body. Result? A high suction powered upright vacuum able to use the dust bags AND maintaining better power, suction and ultimately the performance the design illustrates. The cost of the part was next to nothing either! Albeit being noisy and a brute to push - an inherent design fault I hate about Pure Powers despite their height selection. |
Post# 189213 , Reply# 45   7/9/2012 at 16:33 (4,302 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )   |   | |
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